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Just found my first snake in the shop

akpingel

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Sort of knew it was inevitable. There are gaps at the 3 bay doors and the man door is completely shot. I have seen several lizards roaming around so I figured at some point I would see this:
IMG_20170505_105447 by Alex Pingel, on Flickr

IMG_20170505_105709 by Alex Pingel, on Flickr

Luckily its just a black snake. So I know I need to get the seals and gaps around the doors fixed. However this is going to be a lengthy process and will probably take me at least 2 seasons to finish. Anyone have any good stop gaps for keeping the lizards out, and in turn to keep the snakes out until I can get the shop all sealed up?

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Alex
 
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At least it was only a black snake...

How bad are the gaps? Got any pics?
 

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My Dad always said that it was good to have black snakes around the farm buildings ... obviously, they eat lots of rodents, but he always claimed that black snakes also kept other snakes away (ie., copperheads, for example). I don't know if that is true or not, but I've always taken comfort in that belief and leave the black snakes alone.

That being said, the shop is NO place for any snake .... black or otherwise!! Even the harmless ones scare the **** out of me!! I guess it's because they seem to appear from nowhere when you least expect them! Ugh!!
 

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We're constantly on the lookout - this year there seems to be a lot of reports on local social FB of people finding rattle snakes in their yards. In town, that is.
 

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Black racers (or blacksnakes) are ophiophagous, which means they prey on other snakes. Am not sure where you live, but an adult black racer like that could eat young copperheads and rattlesnakes. Racers do not constrict their prey, they just overpower it and eat it live. Also help keep the rodent population at check.
 

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I have several black snakes around my house. I keep them there because they eat all bad things... They love to eat rattle snakes and other rodents. Since I keep them here I have not seen anything around the house. If they are out sunning on the bushes they will take there tail and wiggle the bush to let you know they are there. Sounds crazy but it works.
 

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I just looked even closer at your photo and am pretty sure that is a black rat snake, not a black racer. An even cooler find, although black rat snakes do not feed on other snakes. I find them basking with copperheads and timber rattlesnakes all the time. They are also referred to as 'pilot snakes' because it was once believed that they would show rattlesnakes where to hibernate. The two species often hibernate together, but the rattlesnakes don't need the rat snakes to show them the way.
 

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For some reason I have never been able to get over my fear of snakes. I have found 1 inside by detached building, and actually found one inside a wall of my basement when I was ripping out walls for a remodel.
 

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A few years ago I was ripping down a hay loft floor in an old shed. As I stood on the ladder taking a break, I noticed a black snake slowly making its way across a girt at the back of the shed. It leisurely moved along inspecting every nick and cranny and eventually settled about 12' above the ground. I was thinking to myself that it was good that I hadn't noticed it before I began working on the loft or the work probably wouldn't have gotten done!!

As I began to climb down the ladder, I looked down and .... geezzz!! There's two more on the ground below the ladder! Not little wimpy ones either .... they were both probably between 5-6 ft long. I stayed on the ladder for a few minutes and, fortunately, they kept moving away from the ladder. Pic of one of them:

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Funny. I looked those pics and I could hear Steve Erwin's voice in the back of my head.

"Crikey, What a beauty!"
 

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If a snake wants in, it's going to get in.

I've found a good solution is providing them a nice big piece of smooth concrete to warm up and a quiet, dark place to sleep. Build it away from your shop as far as possible, and keep some piles of sticks, some old clothes (wash them thoroughly so snakes don't begin to find your scent comforting) and stuffing, as well as a bit of grain out there to attract a few mice.

The snakes are bright enough to know a nice spot when they find one.

I've got some copperheads around here, but I generally leave them alone. They're intelligent, docile, and they eat mice. On occasion they'll come in for a peek, but they're easy to move back outside.

I just like snakes and love copperheads. There's a big one who made a little home under a bush that I sometimes have to move when I mow the lawn. I don't want to be spraying it with grass clippings, noise, and sticks.

Again, though; the best way to get rid of snakes is to give them somewhere else to go that's better. They aren't even remotely stupid; just fearful. That's why when they do come in a shop or house, they get as far away from you as possible.

All that said, a blacksnake will indeed keep other snakes away. Shame they are ill-tempered as hell. Compensating at it's finest. :lol:

Of course, take this post with a grain of salt. I've been bitten by Copperheads 8 times; but 7 of those times were after people poked at them for half an hour while I was on my way. The other was my little "pet" out front.

I wasn't thinking and blasted it's house with the mower twice, and then came back with a gas trimmer. Then I reached in to pick up a bag that blew over, and she almost got a good shot in my thumb, but without an injection; which would have been dangerous even for me.

Fingers and such aren't forgiving when it comes to that sort of thing.

Calmed right down after that, though. I just scared the **** out of her. All my fault, and I've been moving her or avoiding that spot if I can't find her ever since. I do believe she is approaching end of life, though.

Shame. I like my little animal friends.
 
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Funny. I looked those pics and I could hear Steve Erwin's voice in the back of my head.

"Crikey, What a beauty!"


As I recall it was more, "Crikey, what a beau..."

Gopher snakes and rattlers out here. Rattlers in the building or in the landscaping get killed. Otherwise, live an let live.
 

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My wife and I with our two medium sized dogs were out on our 23 ft deckboat last week, not the platform type but the kind you step down into. After about a half hour cruising at slow speed and sipping wine, my wife noticed a black snake on the floor behind my helm seat. We often see them around our house and this one was full grown, maybe five feet or so.

There we were in the middle of the river and not close to home with the snake on the floor and my wife sitting on the bow with the two dogs on the seat close by her. I was driving the boat kneeling on the helm seat as the snake was just inches below me on the floor heading for the front of the boat toward my wife and dogs. We are "let live" kind of animal lovers and reluctant to kill it. Even if I was so inclined, I had nothing to dispatch it with or throw it overboard other than my own hands and feet.

It approached my very frightened wife, trying to get up on the seats under her but couldn't get a grip on the smooth fiberglass of the seat base. I wanted to open the center ski storage hatch on the floor in the center of the boat to get a boat hook so I could pick the snake up but didn't for fear the snake would get into the hatch and I'd never get him out.

Since the snake was not animated or aggressive, we decided to speed home and get the boat up on the lift and us off the boat as quickly as possible. Once on the lift and my wife and dogs off the boat, the snake started to crawl up the step next to where she was sitting and up on to the front deck. That gave me a chance to open the center hatch and grab an oar which I used to push the snake in the water. They are good swimmers and made it to shore very quickly.

Before starting our outing, our dogs were running along the shore and in the shallow water and likely flushed the snake out of the grass and into the water. Once in the water, the closest thing it encountered was the piling for our lift so we think it went up the piling and into the boat where it stayed behind the seat cushions until we discovered it on the floor.

It was an interesting outing to say the least and we are glad we all got home safe and sound, including the snake which is now back home as well.

Glen
 

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Black racers (or blacksnakes) are ophiophagous, which means they prey on other snakes. Am not sure where you live, but an adult black racer like that could eat young copperheads and rattlesnakes. Racers do not constrict their prey, they just overpower it and eat it live. Also help keep the rodent population at check.

Black racers and black rat snakes are separate species, that's a black rat. I once reached up onto a stack of hay bales that was higher than my head to pull one down for the cows, there was about 6 feet of black snake sunning himself on top. Grabbed a big ole handful of snake, not sure who was more surprised.:eyecrazy:
 
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I'd burn the whole kit-n-caboodle down.

Always amazes me me how some people are proud of their irrational fears of snakes. A harmless snake that was removed from the building and this is the response??? People who are afraid of heights typically do not want to burn ladders and "brag" about it, let a lone burning the building one was kept in. And this on garage journal home to largely manly men, that in general would be reluctant to admit a phobia. I have some claustrophobia issues, but if the situation requires I put on a game face and enter a crowded elevator. Can't think I would ever post online how terrified I was. No one there will know, except for my wife who will ask after we get off. "That was a little tight for you, huh?" For some reason people that are afraid of snakes [which I believe is a real phobia] will profess on an on at the extreme level of fear they have, like it is a point of pride. And the irrational over response they would have to a situation.
 

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My Dad always said that it was good to have black snakes around the farm buildings ... obviously, they eat lots of rodents, but he always claimed that black snakes also kept other snakes away (ie., copperheads, for example). I don't know if that is true or not, but I've always taken comfort in that belief and leave the black snakes alone.

That being said, the shop is NO place for any snake .... black or otherwise!! Even the harmless ones scare the **** out of me!! I guess it's because they seem to appear from nowhere when you least expect them! Ugh!!

This and I got used to having black snakes around me even in the garage.
 

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Damn guys I'm really impressed with y'all. I thought this going to be a thread about dudes killing snakes. Sure glad to see everyone being cool about them. These critters are important to the ecosystem and certainly keep the balance.

I wish we had more around here but with all the fertilizer and kill on site attitude their tough to find.

Between this and guys shooting the coyotes in their driveway.... For some reason they think they will attack people. Coyotes don't attack people... Cats yes, little dogs yes. But so will a Red Tail or Horned Own.

Either way keep those snakes !! They're awesome.

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I've always liked snakes and have had a few as pets including a black snake.





We've had a few of the more exotic ones as well.








 

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That being said, the shop is NO place for any snake .... black or otherwise!! Even the harmless ones scare the **** out of me!! I guess it's because they seem to appear from nowhere when you least expect them! Ugh!!



I agree, I believe snakes are very important part of our ecosystem. They don't bother me when I'm looking for them and find them, however it makes me jump out of my skin when I'm minding my own business and I see one at my feet




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I've got some copperheads around here, but I generally leave them alone. They're intelligent, docile, and they eat mice. On occasion they'll come in for a peek, but they're easy to move back outside.

Copperheads are not docile. They may not chase you down and bite you, but they won't run when approached. That is why people get bit, copperheads stand their ground and when the human gets to close from not seeing them.....BAM!
 

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Black ratsnakes are good for keeping the gopher/mole/vole population down. They can get pretty big - the ranger folks claim 7 feet, but I have a couple of 7 1/2' shed skins, and a picture of one crossing my sidewalk that, comparing to the known width of the sidewalk, is about 8 1/2 feet. That's a big snake!
The ones you need to be cautious of are the little black 2-3-footers. Could be a cottonmouth/water moccassin. They look very similar, but don't get nearly as big as the black ratsnakes.
 

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Copperheads are not docile. They may not chase you down and bite you, but they won't run when approached. That is why people get bit, copperheads stand their ground and when the human gets to close from not seeing them.....BAM!

You're getting the wrong impression from their behavior.

Copperheads do tend to freeze in place, but their pattern can make them nearly invisible in leaves and brush. They have good reason to choose hiding over fleeing or attacking: It works.

They are timid; not aggressive. They aren't waiting there to strike you, and they'll avoid the hell out of it at all costs, sometimes even if stepped upon. The human equivalent would be hiding under your covers to keep the monsters away.

When I come across one that needs to be moved, it's about the easiest process of all time. If nobody has been bothering it, I just sit down about 5 feet away. Eventually (and nearly invariably) they'll come right over and go into a bag without a single hassle.

Indeed, if I sit there long enough, they'll occasionally decide to curl up on or beside me. Sometimes that gets a touch uncomfortable, because they don't always want to leave... :lol:

Best thing there is wait for them to climb on an arm and just hold them in brush or a small tree until they would rather go somewhere else than enjoy the warmth. On hot days, sitting in the sun will eventually run them into the shade and allow you to try again.

Now, if someone has been abusing the snake before I show up, it's going to be absolutely terrified. I'm at risk of being struck in that event, and I have been many times. Then, one day, I got my damned mind in gear and realized there is a much better solution.

Just warm up a towel and drape it over them. They calm down quickly, and then are happy to comply with being removed and relocated.

I've handled hundreds of snakes (and other animals) around the world, including some of the more dangerous varieties. I even spent time working with black and green mambas, as well as boomslangs, which were being exterminated by miners and tribesmen in Southern Kenya.

The snake I'm most wary around is the water moccasin, which is rather common in this area. They are extremely intelligent, they know it's your *** if they want to have at you, and they're not shy about following to make sure you got the message.

All that said, people shouldn't be poking at snakes of any kind. I've been dealing with odd-ball animals for many years. Leave them alone, and if you have an issue (such as a curious dog or small child and the suspicion of venomous snakes on your property) call someone like me.

Nearly every area has someone who will come by and harmlessly remove the animal. Call them up, keep an eye on the snake (don't go after it), and wait. Tell them where you think it is, and let them find it for you.

Just for reference, I personally appreciate a cold soda after capturing a snake. I'm sure I'm not the only one. :beer:
 

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This fella happened into the shop a while back (Nov 2015)....which is a little unusual. Kind of late in the year. I catch them and then relocate to the Saguaro National Park, which is a mile down the road from me....you'll find vids of several other snakes and creatures that reside on the Russell Compound on my YouTube page...

 

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Nobody lived in the house I bought for years and there were snake skins everywhere and even when I worked on it they came back and acted like they were alone. :p
 

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This fella happened into the shop a while back (Nov 2015)....which is a little unusual. Kind of late in the year. I catch them and then relocate to the Saguaro National Park, which is a mile down the road from me....you'll find vids of several other snakes and creatures that reside on the Russell Compound on my YouTube page...


The posture there is amazing. :lol:

"Yo! Lay off me! Yeah, that's right! Walk away. Walk away you little bi..."

"What? Wait... You're not going to leave? HEY! Put me DOWN!"
 

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OK, it's now official. bushmechanic has the biggest brass balls of all on GJ.
Just two weeks back my wife was dancing in the wood pile and singing about snakes. Went to take a look and it was a little Garter snake. Told her to quit acting like an idiot and leave him alone.
Week later I saw him again and he had grown a few inches in a week, assuming it was the same one.
 

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I collect them from neighbors and bring them home. Lots of land between us but whenever the neighbors find a snake I get a call and go get them. Since I have been doing this I find no more timber rattlers around the yard and almost no rodents.

Here a re a few of them.
 

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Hilltopmasonry

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Well i be the guy to thank the people on here that actually relocate the snakes where most people kill them. They are an important part of keeping a healthy ecosystem .

Ill also be the guy that says no way in hell i am handling them personally ...ill call you hahah


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