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I can tell you that over the years the ball in those sockets gets loose and oval shaped. So you get loose steering in one position and turning things tighten up. I finally rebuilt the rod ends on my old '49 pickup and it was amazing the change in driveability. It went from a wandering rig to tight and a joy to drive.

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Great score on the new truck, something I noticed about the RF rim, that is an American Racing rim, model number AR 136. I remember that because I tore one up on a previous truck before I could even legally drive and it took 6 months to find out who made them, and how to order a new one.

Next time I come over I have a wheel and tire that need to be swapped over if you want to give a lesson I'd be willing to bring some scrap aluminum as a swap for the education and labor, I have a lot more scrap now than last time you were over.
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Thanks for the caboose tour. Interesting piece of equipment, and quite remarkable that someone that used to run it tracked you down to talk about it.
As for the drag link socket, if you ever need to do front end work on Miss Vicky, it will come in handy.
Carry on
 

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all good info. neat caboose too. i knew a guy that bought an old rr station and fixed it up for his home. parked next to it was a caboose that became his son's room. i have a every nice snap-on drag link socket that i forgot to use when i added ps to my '75 fj40. maybe next time. they say that if your drag link is badly worn, sometimes a copper penny will help. never tried it-my fj only has about 47 thou on it. i have a hard time keeping up with you sometimes andy, but i try. :thumbup:

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DM: yes your Snap on sockets are DRAG LINK sockets. the one Andy was using on his tractor is a socket screwdriver bit i'm pretty sure or i guess he can call it a drag link if he wants to.

Andy: any BULL pictures to share or stories to tell?
 

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DM: yes your Snap on sockets are DRAG LINK sockets. the one Andy was using on his tractor is a socket screwdriver bit i'm pretty sure or i guess he can call it a drag link if he wants to.

Andy: any BULL pictures to share or stories to tell?

His is home made or modified how ever you want to put it

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I can tell you that over the years the ball in those sockets gets loose and oval shaped. So you get loose steering in one position and turning things tighten up. I finally rebuilt the rod ends on my old '49 pickup and it was amazing the change in driveability. It went from a wandering rig to tight and a joy to drive.

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All I've ever done is tighten them up. That usually makes a big difference. Thanks for passing that along, I'll remember it when the opportunity presents itself! And the Show Truck is the next opportunity.

Great score on the new truck, something I noticed about the RF rim, that is an American Racing rim, model number AR 136. I remember that because I tore one up on a previous truck before I could even legally drive and it took 6 months to find out who made them, and how to order a new one.

Next time I come over I have a wheel and tire that need to be swapped over if you want to give a lesson I'd be willing to bring some scrap aluminum as a swap for the education and labor, I have a lot more scrap now than last time you were over.
JB

Interesting to know that. The P.O. gets it back, of course.

Come on over. No one with scrap aluminum is turned away. Week ago Friday a neighbor called me. HVAC man and his 1 ton service truck was out of alignment and the tires were really wearing crooked. He wanted to turn around both front tires to give him a few more miles before Monday when he had an appointment to get an alignment and new tires. We worked together and had them swapped in no time. And he didn't even have any aluminum.

I may have to start paying you for scrap.:eyecrazy:

Thanks for the caboose tour. Interesting piece of equipment, and quite remarkable that someone that used to run it tracked you down to talk about it.
As for the drag link socket, if you ever need to do front end work on Miss Vicky, it will come in handy.
Carry on

That was incredible, and great fun.

Not surprising that Miss Vicky would have adjustable drag links. :)

all good info. neat caboose too. i knew a guy that bought an old rr station and fixed it up for his home. parked next to it was a caboose that became his son's room. i have a every nice snap-on drag link socket that i forgot to use when i added ps to my '75 fj40. maybe next time. they say that if your drag link is badly worn, sometimes a copper penny will help. never tried it-my fj only has about 47 thou on it. i have a hard time keeping up with you sometimes andy, but i try. :thumbup:

jim

An old railroad station complete with caboose, how cool!!

I don't guess I've ever had a drag link socket.

Adding a copper plug, or maybe even aluminum, would make sense for taking up some space. It would deform to the shape of the ball and socket.

Easy to keep up with me, just chalk the floor next to my foot and check later to see whether I've moved.:thumbup:

Are these drag link sockets. One is 3/8th drive the other is half inch drive.

Looks like them to me. Nice sockets.

DM: yes your Snap on sockets are DRAG LINK sockets. the one Andy was using on his tractor is a socket screwdriver bit i'm pretty sure or i guess he can call it a drag link if he wants to.

Andy: any BULL pictures to share or stories to tell?

The one I have, I ground out of a broken extension. I don't call it a drag link socket, but others have mentioned that moniker. It's just a screwdriver.

I hadn't seen the bull for several days. In order to avoid over medication of food chain animals the USDA is now requiring prescriptions for medicated feeds. The only one I use is a medicated mineral which will prevent anaplasmosis in cattle, a mosquito borne disease which is often fatal. Part of the requirements is for the veterinarian to visit the farm witness the size of the herd, and evaluate the safe medicated feed level, then write a prescription for that. She is coming Saturday morning, while I was tidying up at the barn lot the bull and one of his ladies came in for a romantic meal. I had to tell them the restaurant was closed. They were none to happy about it.
 

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:thumbup:As usual, your thread moves very fast. If I would have been reading when you posted about the adjustable drag link I would have chimed in. Now it's been covered.


Modified tools have always been present at every place I've ever worked. ( Maybe because I've been self employed most of my life.):willy_nil

I also found the story about the letter left at the Vet. wall very touching. Life marches on with or without us. But we all get to the same end result.

Happy Saturday Andy.
 

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Modified tools were illegal at every company I worked for.[emoji38]_hitti

I'm a slow learner.:willy_nil

If modified tools are illegal, how are new tools invented? Every new tool is the result of a need that didn't exist before, or makes a difficult task easier.


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:thumbup:As usual, your thread moves very fast. If I would have been reading when you posted about the adjustable drag link I would have chimed in. Now it's been covered.


Modified tools have always been present at every place I've ever worked. ( Maybe because I've been self employed most of my life.):willy_nil

I also found the story about the letter left at the Vet. wall very touching. Life marches on with or without us. But we all get to the same end result.

Happy Saturday Andy.

Well spoken.

My wife is having some little troubles so I may be scarce around here.

Yesterday I cut up three solid core doors to make a work bench. One was solid lumber, one was particle board, and this one a certified fire door. What a mess with the white core. All were oak veneer, but one had a walnut side.

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What I learned on GJ:

Flat surfaces are good, I have FSD which means I am gratified by having a flat surface to lay stuff on. And I have stuff, so I need another work bench as it seems the others got used up.

Happy Saturday!!
 

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However engineered tools are/were okay right? I "designed" a 4' (1.3m) spline drive wrench for 8-12" plug valves, sadly it is ~75 lbs (34kg), but it won't break anytime soon.

JB

Of course, in the mind of management, engineers can't make mistakes and the crafts can't do anything original. You didn't, however, modify a tool, you designed and built a specialty device to improve plant efficiency. There must be a big difference.

If modified tools are illegal, how are new tools invented? Every new tool is the result of a need that didn't exist before, or makes a difficult task easier.


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Illegal from the basis of company safety policy only. A few accidents over the years caused by cheaters breaking wrenches and causing an accident:don't use cheaters. A few accidents caused by welding on hardened tool steel: don't modify existing tools. It does not make a lot of sense, and anyone who had to change a 5.7L Chevy diesel injector pump bent a 14 mm wrench to get on the bolt heads. No accident, but in the plants I worked in you would have to pay $300 for a manufactured wrench to do that job.

Obviously I routinely build and modify my own tools and I'm always reminded of the idiocy of blanket prohibition of certain activities, usually because management has no idea and thinks they can make every activity idiot proof rather than getting rid of the idiots.

Maybe you hit a nerve with me.

When OSHA first issued man basket requirements in the U.S. I became the competent person for my plant (by reading the law). Then I designed modifications to our man baskets to bring them into compliance and designed a man basket out of 36" pipe for use in going down stacks. You should have heard the uproar from management: You can't do that! We can't do it ourselves, got to buy certified equipment! We've never done this before! You'll lose your job! You'll be sued!

Hogwash.
 

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OIF, that makes me laugh. I used to get paid to make special tools for a few mechanics around here, even exhaust shops wanting mandrel tapers for making their own headers etc.
We were changing a late model clutch for one of my sons friends that had the slave cylinder on the trust cover. Weirdest thing to work on. To bleed it, I made a tube spanner with a second hole to the clear plastic sight tube could stay connected while bleeding it. Well, it saved us driving back into town.
 

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Speaking of flat surfaces: i must have an acre of workbench area in my shop. And yesterday I had to put what I was working on down on the floor! Shameful! I need to spend some evenings getting my flat surfaces back. The floor is doing pretty well. Even my roll around carts are full though.
 

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Andy: i know you and others and of course i have FSD and only reason i mentioned the ROTOBIN cause it has a spot for all those things that won't fit in a drawer so maybe you can have a clean flat surface. i never expected you to go buy a new one and for you just to keep your eye open for one like you do for every old truck you drive buy. i didn't pay close to what retail is on mine, but i have it next to my door into my garage which might be a mistake cause my wife sees what i put in it and asks why i NEED THIS OR THAT.

now that you mention it i see you made that socket or extension screwdriver on the grinder. i've got several DRAG LINK sockets cause the old sets usually came with one or two, but i've also got sockets that have phillips and screwdriver heads on them and can't recall which brands have those. i think PROTO is one of them.

i'm betting your RULE ABOUT NO MODIFIED TOOLS ON THE JOB SITE HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH INSURANCE IN CASE OF INJURIES?

I would have posted this part first, but i thought it might help more to put it last. i hope your wife feels better and I know she still likes your humor.

We'll all understand if you miss posting for a day or two, but we'll all miss you. :thumbup:

best of luck and maybe she'll have a few words to help cure your FSD that you can pass on to us.

cheers
 

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Obviously I routinely build and modify my own tools and I'm always reminded of the idiocy of blanket prohibition of certain activities, usually because management has no idea and thinks they can make every activity idiot proof rather than getting rid of the idiots.
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Hogwash.


The problem with making things idiot proof is that as soon as its done, they build a better idiot.

It's a never ending cycle.

Glen
 

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Thanks for the tour of the caboose, very interesting. I see it caught FSD from you.

My FSD is terminal. Car trunks and hoods, upsidedown 5 gallon pails, every surface in the house and garage. Same at work, maybe worse. I think I will specify that everyone attending my funeral throw something on my coffin so that I am comfortable for all time.
 
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OIF, that makes me laugh. I used to get paid to make special tools for a few mechanics around here, even exhaust shops wanting mandrel tapers for making their own headers etc.
We were changing a late model clutch for one of my sons friends that had the slave cylinder on the trust cover. Weirdest thing to work on. To bleed it, I made a tube spanner with a second hole to the clear plastic sight tube could stay connected while bleeding it. Well, it saved us driving back into town.

Of course the tools I'm talking about not modifying are mostly wrenches.

I didn't understand slave cylinder on the trust cover. What is the trust cover? Is it a typo for dust cover?

Speaking of flat surfaces: i must have an acre of workbench area in my shop. And yesterday I had to put what I was working on down on the floor! Shameful! I need to spend some evenings getting my flat surfaces back. The floor is doing pretty well. Even my roll around carts are full though.

Fortunately I never have to work on the floor.

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Andy: i know you and others and of course i have FSD and only reason i mentioned the ROTOBIN cause it has a spot for all those things that won't fit in a drawer so maybe you can have a clean flat surface. i never expected you to go buy a new one and for you just to keep your eye open for one like you do for every old truck you drive buy. i didn't pay close to what retail is on mine, but i have it next to my door into my garage which might be a mistake cause my wife sees what i put in it and asks why i NEED THIS OR THAT.

now that you mention it i see you made that socket or extension screwdriver on the grinder. i've got several DRAG LINK sockets cause the old sets usually came with one or two, but i've also got sockets that have phillips and screwdriver heads on them and can't recall which brands have those. i think PROTO is one of them.

i'm betting your RULE ABOUT NO MODIFIED TOOLS ON THE JOB SITE HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH INSURANCE IN CASE OF INJURIES?

I would have posted this part first, but i thought it might help more to put it last. i hope your wife feels better and I know she still likes your humor.

We'll all understand if you miss posting for a day or two, but we'll all miss you. :thumbup:

best of luck and maybe she'll have a few words to help cure your FSD that you can pass on to us.

cheers

Funny I never go places to buy used tools anymore. No auctions, etc. I don't even take time to look at Craigslist. I might get a rotobin if my lumber yard sells theirs.

Yes, modifying wrenches is considered a safety issue.

My wife appreciates my humor, but the family rule is "don't laugh at Andy or you'll hear more".

The problem with making things idiot proof is that as soon as its done, they build a better idiot.

It's a never ending cycle.

Glen

:lol_hitti

It has been said many times that our employees are most imaginative at finding new ways to screw up.

Thanks for the tour of the caboose, very interesting. I see it caught FSD from you.

My FSD is terminal. Car trunks and hoods, upsidedown 5 gallon pails, every surface in the house and garage. Same at work, maybe worse. I think I will specify that everyone attending my funeral throw something on my coffin so that I am comfortable for all time.

I think that's a grand idea for your funeral. The sad thing is some of your close friends may hang around to jump in before they close the grave and retrieve some neat stuff others thought was worthless when they threw it on your coffin. If you're like me, you'd be ok with that.

Thanks for commenting guys. No update today, I left my step daughter to watch her mom while I went to Mustang OK to retrieve Bob from his visit with my son. They did fine.
 

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Andy that Caboose is just too cool. Growing up in Amarillo I remember seeing the Santa Fe cabooses all the time. It makes me sad now to see the end of most trains has a blinking red light. How boring.

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I hope your wife is okay Andy. Don't worry about us old farts. She is way more important (but you know that) And we'll still be around when you get back. You've got us all addicted to your thread.
 

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Bret reminded me about something I hadn't thought about recently. For whatever reason the train we have here at work for moving stuff around has a caboose, I usually see it a few times a week and it is the only caboose I can ever remember seeing in service. It is cool to see if nothing else.
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Andy that Caboose is just too cool. Growing up in Amarillo I remember seeing the Santa Fe cabooses all the time. It makes me sad now to see the end of most trains has a blinking red light. How boring.

Bret

Glad you like it. When they announced they were ceasing use of the caboose (is the plural caboose, cabooses, or cabeese?) I just wanted one before they were gone. Now I feel like I'm preserving something, though not doing a good job.


:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

I hope your wife is okay Andy. Don't worry about us old farts. She is way more important (but you know that) And we'll still be around when you get back. You've got us all addicted to your thread.

My wife is OK because of her faith in God and the security of her future in heaven. But her life is a bit of a struggle right now.

OK, I won't worry about you "old guys". I bet you wish you were as young as me:rocker:

Glad you like the thread, it's an inspiration and motivation for me.:thumbup:

I heard long ago, " You cant make it foolproof, because fools are so ingenious."
Hope you and your wife have a great day today.

:lol_hitti:lol_hitti Yes, I had heard that one too, it's great. And, oh so true:willy_nil

Bret reminded me about something I hadn't thought about recently. For whatever reason the train we have here at work for moving stuff around has a caboose, I usually see it a few times a week and it is the only caboose I can ever remember seeing in service. It is cool to see if nothing else.
JB

Rock Island still uses one of their green cabooses on a freight delivery spur into Tulsa. All boarded up with the red light on the back. I guess it saves trading lights between cars. I like seeing it but it has the side cupolas and I prefer the top cupolas. When I was a kid my Lionel train set had a Santa Fe caboose just like my big one (it also had a Sunoco tank car, and I would up with Sunoco Nomex after working for them. I wear my Sunoco Nomex when I play with my train set:lol:).

Hope everybody has a great Saturday!
 

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My wife is OK because of her faith in God and the security of her future in heaven. But her life is a bit of a struggle right now.

OK, I won't worry about you "old guys". I bet you wish you were as young as me:rocker:

Glad you like the thread, it's an inspiration and motivation for me.:thumbup:









Hope everybody has a great Saturday!

I'll never be as young as you are my friend. You have a zest for life that few people will ever have the pleasure of understanding.:thumbup:Can't say when, but you are on my "soon" bucket list to meet and spend some quality time with.( even though I don't think you'll ever want be back again :dunno::eyecrazy:)

Happy Saturday to you also AA.
 

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Andy, after 2,708 posts and over a million views, we know a lot but I'm still left wondering, did you ever get your shop cleaned up? :lol:
 
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I'll never be as young as you are my friend. You have a zest for life that few people will ever have the pleasure of understanding.:thumbup:Can't say when, but you are on my "soon" bucket list to meet and spend some quality time with.( even though I don't think you'll ever want be back again :dunno::eyecrazy:)

Happy Saturday to you also AA.

Well you might as well come on down. I've got a fence to paint, you might want to learn how.

OIF........Well, without a bit faith and a bit of love, it wouldn't be a worth it.
Cherish and share all you can with the ones you love.

Words to live by.

Andy, after 2,708 posts and over a million views, we know a lot but I'm still left wondering, did you ever get your shop cleaned up? :lol:

Ummm, no, I had to build on to have space and now I'm aggressively thinking about cleaning however I've got some projects that need attention. It is cleaner than it was. And I do have a lot of trim put up. Actually the broom room has been cleaned and finished.

I'm still thinking more space will not get as cluttered.:lol_hitti
 
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Went down to help my son in law trim some trees. Noticed a friend's VW bus. It's just sitting, BugThug.

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Then started on the work bench. Wall support

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Framed

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And... we have a bench.

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I modified my design because the bench was going to be too close to the door to carry things through.

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I'm thinking about trimming it off on a 45.

It doesn't take long to find stuff to go on a new bench:thumbup:

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The right end is going to get my cutoff saw on a pedestal. No more squatting down to cut.

My bullet vise likes it there. I've been wondering where it would wind up.

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Thank you for stopping in!:thumbup:
 

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No bench warmer there. You're making such great progress you can stop by our places and spend a Saturday or two.


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Andy, after 2,708 posts and over a million views, we know a lot but I'm still left wondering, did you ever get your shop cleaned up? :lol:

The Garage Journal Thread Court (GJTC) ruled that building a new shop did indeed satisfy the requirements of "cleaning". This is known as the "Andy Rule" and applies to all GJ threads. :thumbup:
 
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No bench warmer there. You're making such great progress you can stop by our places and spend a Saturday or two.


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OK, thanks! I'll be right down, but I need to wait for Dan and Drives to show up, I would hate to miss them if I were gone.:sad:

nicely said

Dan has his moments, doesn't he:bowdown:

I still like your legs!

:eek: You're making me blush. Does your wife know you like my legs?

The Garage Journal Thread Court (GJTC) ruled that building a new shop did indeed satisfy the requirements of "cleaning". This is known as the "Andy Rule" and applies to all GJ threads. :thumbup:

:lol: :lol: In all fairness, I only expanded a bit to have just enough room to store critical items.:dunno:

Thanks for the comments, one and all. Here we are at the last NSSOTW. So I have to make the best use of today, as tomorrow everybody gets a Saturday. Actually those stinking Aussies get to start early.:(

(Non Standard Saturday Of The Week)

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So do I :lol:

Actually Saturday is only 56 minutes away, I better get some sleep.

GB

Hope you enjoyed your Saturday. We're saving up to enjoy ours like dessert, after you guys have had your fill.

Andy, top job on the bench. The legs ad real character. :thumbup:

More flat surface....;)

And its Saturday..:3gears:

Thank you!

Funny thing, I made my first legs like that because I was out of 2x4's and had to use 2x6's. I thought a 2x6 split down the middle is a little narrow for nailing (2-11/16" or 68mm) so I tapered them to get a large thigh. Now I just make them out of 2x4's and I think they re strong enough. Glad you like them!

A clean bench is a beautiful thing.

Thanks for stopping in, guys!!
 
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This morning I went upstairs to get my new bench grinder. I bought it in 08 and haven't needed it until now. But I knew where it was!:rocker::rocker:

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I also built a stool for my chop saw. The idea is to provide a few supports over the bench which will not obstruct using the bench. And storage for short cutoffs under it. There's also going to be a storage rack down under.

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Nailed all the doors down, and noticed the middle one is about 3/32" thicker than the others. It'll work. Bolted the vises down.

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Trimmed off the corner and banded it with about 1/4" oak.

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That's about it for today, although I worked a little on the Willys.

Thanks for looking in!!:thumbup::thumbup:
 

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