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:lol: I can just hear your wife now yates...

... "What are you doing!!!! You can't just drive up there. What if they're home, they'll call the police on us! Don't do it......Stop now before it's too late!!!!!!!!!!!"
That's when you calmly explain to her we're all friends here who just haven't met.....yet. ;)

Almost word for word what she said, lol. She also text one of her friends saying that if we went missing we were last known to be at a guy named Thomas house in Philo that I met on the internet. :lol:
 
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I'm sure lots of people following this thread are jealous about you being here poking around the place, looking in windows, finding the "three in the tree" yard art" on the west side of the restored shop (did you find it?), and breathing in the country air.

Our paths will surely cross again, yates. I'm sorry we weren't home to greet you and your wife. I would have given you some lemonade and Tom would have given you the inside tour of the buildings.

We are in the COTU (it says so on the water tower), so the vortex is especially strong here. It's predestined that we will eventually meet.

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I'm sure lots of people following this thread are jealous about you being here poking around the place, looking in windows, finding the "three in the tree" yard art" on the west side of the restored shop (did you find it?), and breathing in the country air.

Our paths will surely cross again, yates. I'm sorry we weren't home to greet you and your wife. I would have given you some lemonade and Tom would have given you the inside tour of the buildings.

We are in the COTU (it says so on the water tower), so the vortex is especially strong here. It's predestined that we will eventually meet.

Chris

No peeking in windows, I wouldn't over step my bounds anymore than I had which hopefully wasn't much. Just knocked on the door to the house then the rest was a view from inside the truck on your driveway as we were leaving.
 

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No problem at all. I just wish we'd been there. Better luck next time. (There's purported to be some sort of boomerang effect - those who have stepped on the property always seem to find their way back! Grizz1963 is already feeling it! jbmatth already succumbed during the Hot Rod Power Tour.)

Chris
 

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No problem at all. I just wish we'd been there. Better luck next time. (There's purported to be some sort of boomerang effect - those who have stepped on the property always seem to find their way back! Grizz1963 is already feeling it! jbmatth already succumbed during the Hot Rod Power Tour.)

Chris

It just so happens to work that way sometimes, I mean I've only been within 100 miles of Philo twice, once to visit the first time and then found myself in Champaign during the HRPT. I guess the sayings are true, everything revolves around the center of the universe.

JB
 

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I thought I recognized that '29 peeking out from the edge of the page!

Famous Lou's famous hot rod has made it to the vaunted pages of The Rodder's Journal!!

Issue 75, page 98!

(Don't be confused by the two covers, if you don't know TRJ, they do a Newsstand cover and a Subscriber cover - the green '32 is the Newsstand cover, for all of you Lou Bingham fans that want to race out and get a copy of your own!)

Congratulations, Lou!!!! I hope to someday meet you!

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yates

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Tried sending a PM but not sure if it went through. Are you guys at Good guys in Des Moines?
 
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Re: I thought I recognized that '29 peeking out from the edge of the page!

Famous Lou's famous hot rod has made it to the vaunted pages of The Rodder's Journal!!

Issue 75, page 98!

(Don't be confused by the two covers, if you don't know TRJ, they do a Newsstand cover and a Subscriber cover - the green '32 is the Newsstand cover, for all of you Lou Bingham fans that want to race out and get a copy of your own!)

Congratulations, Lou!!!! I hope to someday meet you!

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Very cool Mike thank you for sharing and posting those pictures. Lou is in your neck of the woods right now crewing at the Pacific Northwest Historics Vintage Races in Seattle this weekend:

http://pacificraceways.com/events/pacific-northwest-historics-vintage-races/



That's Lou on the right, 2 weeks ago at Indy with us, doing some service work on the Lotus 19. (note Chris in the background supervising) For over 65 years, Lou has been hands on participating in racing in one form or another and shows no sign of slowing down. :)

As you all know, I'm one of Lou's biggest fans. Thanks again Mike.

Thomas
 
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Tried sending a PM but not sure if it went through. Are you guys at Good guys in Des Moines?

Hi yates, no we're not there. I'm still knee deep in construction of the walnut cabinetry and bookshelves for my office.





This is the lateral file cabinet...



...that's the stack of walnut that I made the file drawers from, all solid walnut.



This is dovetailing the drawers...



...all the drawer parts ready for assembly...



...1 file drawer done.



That's a file drawer sitting in the file cabinet, no slides or drawer front installed yet.

Below are stacks...







...of some of the material that was glued up, that the cabinets were constructed from...



...and this is but a small pile of scrap material left over from construction.

I'm just about done with all the construction and should begin applying the finish early next week. Chris will tell you she hasn't seen me around much once I started on this and I haven't posted in because I'm pretty focused on getting it done...



...but the end is in sight!



I'm more than pleased with the results thus far. :) Stand by.

Walnut on the brain Thomas
 
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There was a maroon Vette line yours with Illinois plates.

I can see why you might have thought we were there in that case. Unfortunately since the walnut project started I've had to put off fun "car stuff". :eek:

Still sorry we missed you and the Mrs., another time.

Thomas
 

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That'a a serious pile of walnut you have there. :) You're using it for all sides of the drawers as well, not just the faces - most people would use a lesser wood for the unseen parts.
 
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That'a a serious pile of walnut you have there. :) You're using it for all sides of the drawers as well, not just the faces - most people would use a lesser wood for the unseen parts.

We are getting back to that pilot thing, nothing but the best for the plane driver LOL

Overall there was much more walnut used than what I pictured. Everything in this project is solid walnut with the exception that 1/2" walnut plywood...



...was used for the back's of the cabinets...



... and it was also used for the file drawer bottoms. In those applications you really need the stability that plywood endows. Other than that it's all 100% solid walnut. The reason for using walnut in non traditional applications is most personal.

As you might recall...



...I cut down this walnut tree in 1980 after it was struck by lightning. It yielded a tremendous amount...



... of beautiful, straight grained, usable lumber that my father...



... seen center left, helped mill out.

Some of that lumber...





... was this slab...



... that became the mantel.



Other parts of that tree were incorporated in some of the walnut used in the stairway.

And so now I'm using parts of that same tree...



... to build the cabinetry and bookshelves that will surround the area behind my desk. I know it's an extravagance to use it in areas where it will rarely or never be seen, but I'll know it's there. I guess you'd call it a guilty pleasure I'm allowing myself.



It has been a joy crafting it into something I'll see and use almost every day.

Thomas
 

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OI know it's an extravagance to use it in areas where it will rarely or never be seen, but I'll know it's there. I guess you'd call it a guilty pleasure I'm allowing myself.

Nothing wrong with that at all. :thumbup: I've daydreamed about being able to do the same sort of thing myself.

I've recently been watching Youtube videos by a local fellow named Matt Cremona. He's a woodworker who built his own giant bandsaw mill for harvesting large logs into lumber; he has a bunch of videos of the monster slabs he's been able to cut, mostly from urban trees that would have otherwise gone to the landfill. You can just search Youtube on his name to find him, but watching wood milling videos is a whole other rabbit hole to down.
 
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Who would of thought a tree struck by lightning, could be such an investment so many generations down the line...

You bring up an interesting point Knyte Tyne. That tree suffered no damage to any of the limbs or anything else from the lighting strike. The only visual sign was it just blew off some bark, that and 2/3 of the leaves turned brown and fell off. The next year it didn't leaf out at all. My understanding is the moist sap, just under the bark, gets boiled from the super hot temperatures during the strike and that's what kills it.

Instead of it being turned into firewood, Dad & I turned it into lumber and with proper care, there's no telling how long the items I created from it will survive to be enjoyed by future generations. I owe my Dad a huge debt for all he taught me and this is a little pay back tribute to him. I can still remember how excited we both were with each board that was milled from those logs. It was a magnificent tree and we both realized how fortunate I was to get it.

Thomas
 

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Nice use of a lightning tree Thomas. We just bought a cottage lot in the country and we have been clearing for the drive way and a small cottage. It's yielded a fair bit of fire wood already. But I am looking to milling some slab wood to make live edge furniture for the new cottage.
 

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I've had a full appreciation for walnut since Jr. High School wood shop (remember when schools had those?). After cutting, sanding, and finishing my first piece it's been a dream to get back into a shop and work it. Personally there's not a finer looking American wood out there.

Thanks for sharing, I can almost smell that wonderful sawdust!

David
 
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Nice use of a lightning tree Thomas. We just bought a cottage lot in the country and we have been clearing for the drive way and a small cottage. It's yielded a fair bit of fire wood already. But I am looking to milling some slab wood to make live edge furniture for the new cottage.

I would think it's especially satisfying to use material from your land to make furniture for the cottage that will be built there. If you don't have a portable sawmill, once you start asking around I bet you'll find someone locally who could mill it for you. It'll need to air dry about 1 year per inch of thickness before it'll be ready for use but it'll be worth the wait. Good luck with it.

I've had a full appreciation for walnut since Jr. High School wood shop (remember when schools had those?). After cutting, sanding, and finishing my first piece it's been a dream to get back into a shop and work it. Personally there's not a finer looking American wood out there.

Thanks for sharing, I can almost smell that wonderful sawdust!

David

David, you are a man after my own heart. Walnut is just magnificent. My father taught me to appreciate the beauty and grandeur that is walnut. If you can't quite smell the sawdust...



...at least I can show you some of it. That's some walnut sawdust I created to fill small surface imperfections. I make a little slurry with sawdust and glue and fill any large pours or small knotholes. It really works well.

On another note, a major cosmic event is coming to "the center of the universe". Wishing I was going to be there to see it! You guys in IL will get to view the longest duration. http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/total-solar-eclipse-1.4167308

Good heads up there gasgas17. Just south of this area is preparing for the total solar eclipse in a big way. Come on down and join the fun in August. :)

Thomas
 

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Thomas, Chris, I really enjoyed the dinner and tour of your amazing place...thanks again! I have returned to feeling normal after completing the Hot Rod Power Tour in Bowling Green. It was physically amd mentaly challenging, but was fun and memorable.
I see the beauty of using all that prime walnut in the files. Dennis
 

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As I read the part of the stairs and mantle and then the work for your office I wondered if there wasn't a story behind the walnut. Great work and great use of a tree. Glad that you could do it.

Dwight
 
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As I read the part of the stairs and mantle and then the work for your office I wondered if there wasn't a story behind the walnut. Great work and great use of a tree. Glad that you could do it.

Dwight

Thank you Dwight. Here's a bit of an update on the latest walnut cabinet project.



This is a typical glue up. Note the clamps are reversed, 1 on top, the next one under etc. That results in even clamping pressure. A putty knife was used to scrape as much excess glue off as possible, then a damp towel was used to remove most of what excess glue was left.



This is the main top all constructed. Note the book match burl area in the lower left. I can't wait to see that with finish on it. This top is 8' (2.4 m) long, 22" (56 cm) wide where it's over the lateral file cabinet...



...and then it narrows to 19" (48 cm) wide where it meets the top of the other cabinets.



Here's a rare sight...



...a pair of solid walnut sided, dovetailed file drawers. That's how they look with a coat of sealer on them.



Here is some of the shelving with sealer.



These are doors and shelves all sealed and ready for a coat of finish.



Here are a pair of cabinet doors.



Now you can see there are 2 doors shown. The grain matches really well. That tree had some terrific coloring and nice straight grain. The doors and drawers will get at least 2 coats of finish and the tops will receive 3 coats. Once finish gets on them, the grain will really "pop out" with each successive coat.



150 grit sandpaper was used with a stroke sander prior to sealing everything.



320 grit was then used to hand sand the sealer coat and scuff it prior to the finish coat application. This what a drawer looks like after scuff sanding. That white powdery sealer residue was removed by blowing it off with an air gun.

I expect to finish and install the cabinets this week. It rather depends on how fast the finish coats dry. This is a big project that has kept me from posting in much here......but then I know what a patient bunch you guys (and gals!) are, thanks everyone.

Stand by, I have more. :)

Thomas
 

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Re: More Walnut Cabinet Pictures

Thomas, I recall you building a storage area for your hardwood that was very impressive...
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...but this doesn't look like your storage area or any other area of the Payne Center of The Universe Complex. I don't believe I've ever seen one of your walls splashed with anything but distilled water. Are you building cabinets elsewhere?







Stand by, I have more. :)

Thomas
I am definitely standing by and I didn't even notice your surroundings until the fourth or fifth time I went through this post. At first I worried that your walnut was being held for ransom but your selfie doesn't look like you are an unwilling participant.
 
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To get my shop set up properly I expect is going to take several months. 1st on the list is setting up the dust collection system for my new shop, locating all the equipment with respect to the dust collection, wiring all the 3 phase equipment, then wiring all the single phase equipment. Next up is installing proper lighting and a drop, drywall ceiling, and wall outlets etc, etc. That's all going to take some time. I've been working with all my single phase equipment on extension cords and temporary lighting up to now and that's been OK but most of all I needed a thickness planer to turn the rough saw wood into usable, dimensional lumber and a larger jointer than my single phase, 6" Delta one.







While I have all the required equipment, it just going to take time before it's all usable to me. Frustrating but there it is.

I wanted to get my office space organized and more useful than it is at present so rather than wait till my shop is ready, I asked a friend if I could use some space in his shop to do the project and he agreed. It's located about 35 minutes from here so I've been up at the crack of dawn each day driving there and have been getting home 7ish at night. I made the decision to do a major push and get the cabinetry done ASAP so I've been at it 6 long days a week for about 3 weeks now.

It's not ideal of course, but then life is full of compromises. I've been doing most all the remaining work on the house and yard these last few months by myself and it's slow going. Getting the yard grade work and the new lawn started took several weeks alone. I really want to wrap up all the interior house work by the end of July. I still have a couple of decks to install too.

This is a look at almost exactly 1 year ago...





...at this time...



...so clearly I'm headed in the right direction, at least that's what I keep telling myself. :)

And to answer your question SiGmA_X, yes I'm sanding between coats. That's essential.



Here's a door done with 1 coat of finish...



...and here's the backside of a door that's been hand scuff sanded with 320 grit after it had 1 coat of finish on it. I'm also using green and grey Scotch Brite to get in small areas and to scuff the radius edges.



This is the lateral file cabinet with 1 coat of finish. Everything will get at least 2 coats. I'll evaluate them after the second coat.



Here's some of the doors and shelving with just 1 finish coat.

The tops...



...will get a minimum of 3 coats and possibly more, I'll just have to wait and see what they look like. I spent all of Saturday and today except for a 20 minute lunch break, hand sanding. Hours and hours and hours of sanding. :eek:
But it's worth it, I'm very satisfied with the way it looks and feels.

Back at it tomorrow Thomas
 

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Here's some of the doors and shelving with just 1 finish coat.

This picture just epitomizes the term "warm glow"! VERY, very nice! Beautiful!

(I'm pleased with myself if I have the patience to take it to 220 and throw a coat or two of watco on my woodworking projects! Thomas proves he's the man once again! I feel lucky to be able to enjoy his craftsmanship on this site)
 

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Be careful Thomas, with all that sanding your arms might be so big you might break the shifter off the Drag Car. You are the MAN, and your wood working skill's are top notch, beautiful work.
 

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150 grit sandpaper was used with a stroke sander prior to sealing everything.




Thomas


It's nice to see you using all the proper PPE while doing that.



You've come a long way from standing unprotected in that potential deathtrap hole removing the rotary lift cylinder. Seems everyone on GJ chiding you about that has had a positive long term effect. :p :lol_hitti


Beautiful cabinetry work, BTW.
 
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Re: More Walnut Cabinet Pictures

This picture just epitomizes the term "warm glow"! VERY, very nice! Beautiful!

(I'm pleased with myself if I have the patience to take it to 220 and throw a coat or two of watco on my woodworking projects! Thomas proves he's the man once again! I feel lucky to be able to enjoy his craftsmanship on this site)

Mike you are more than generous with those kind words of encouragement.



This is the block sander I'm used the 320 with and...



...here is some of the grey and green Scotch Brite to get into nooks and crannies. It all works quite well. I just get into a rhythm and the work flows. Very rewarding. :)


Be careful Thomas, with all that sanding your arms might be so big you might break the shifter off the Drag Car. You are the MAN, and your wood working skill's are top notch, beautiful work.

Now there's an interesting side benefit from all this that I hadn't thought of. Many thanks Spareparts! :3gears:

It's nice to see you using all the proper PPE while doing that.

You've come a long way from standing unprotected in that potential deathtrap hole removing the rotary lift cylinder. Seems everyone on GJ chiding you about that has had a positive long term effect. :p :lol_hitti

Beautiful cabinetry work, BTW.

Boy no kidding Snap_cap, you're right about that little "incident" from many years ago!



It seems like everyone was on me like a pack of wolves for being in that deep hole. :eek: It was almost as bad as the crooked switch plate cover! But I've seen the error of my ways and reformed myself.

Seriously though my son Cameron will tell you, I've always been a big believer in personal shop safety. Not only is it smart, my airline job depended on it.

Here's a look...



...at how the burl book matched section of the top looks with a single coat of finish on it. Now there is some "golden glow" for you Mike!



It looks even better in person. That's one nice chunk of walnut!

Here's the other section...




...of the top that "L"s to the long, top section. With a couple more coats of finish they will look pretty good and they're as smooth as a babies..........backside. :D

Coming down the home stretch Thomas
 
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