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Those scanners can be hit or miss. A friend from work has a little scanner that plugs into the port and sends info to your smart phone. It worked fine. I decided to quit being a mooch and ordered my own from the same Amazon store, but could never get mine to communicate with my phone. Oh well, it wasn't the first time I wasted $16.
 
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My $13 Bluetooth OBD thingy lived in my service truck 4ish years before it died. It connected to anything with a working OBDII port.

Those scanners can be hit or miss. A friend from work has a little scanner that plugs into the port and sends info to your smart phone. It worked fine. I decided to quit being a mooch and ordered my own from the same Amazon store, but could never get mine to communicate with my phone. Oh well, it wasn't the first time I wasted $16.

Gentlemen:

I've been reading the reviews of those things and I think "Hit or Miss" seems to be appropriate. I'll probably get one of those and an app like Torque and see how it works. As camarosrus69 pointed out, it wouldn't be the first time I wasted $16 either. Ha!

I've done a little searching of the GJ forums for "OBD2" and have seen some favorable comments on the Autel MD802. I intend to do more research.

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Sunday - July 2, 2017

Yesterday evening - while in Indiana - I finally couldn't take it anymore and called my daughter in Georgia to see if she had gotten a report from the Nissan Dealership regarding her 2007 Nissan Versa.

When she answered she was apparently siting in the dark as thunderstorms had moved through the area and knocked out power at her house. Apparently all that excitement had distracted her and she had neglected to call me.

She said that the folks at Nissan had said her car "was a pain". Apparently they had determined that it wasn't the coil pack or the spark plug and they were favoring the idea that the fuel injector in the #2 engine had thrown craps. They didn't have a replacement in stock but my daughter indicated that they thought they would have one Monday.

In the meantime they've given her a loaner vehicle...

I'm not going to repeat my lament regarding how life works for an attractive young female vs. an old guy's situation. If interested, just look at Post # 1959.

Ha!


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SB: best of luck with your daughter's car issues and i'm positive she loves having you to call just to get some needed support. more dad of the year points that is for certain.

i also hope you get your dad's computer issues fixed. my parents decided to cut their cable bill off which also included the phone and the internet. well being 85 and not being able to go in the internet with all the BS on there to scam old people isn't a bad thing and they both have cell phones so if they go to the local drug store a couple times a month to get them out of the house to buy $20 more worth of minutes that works. so now there phones are about $40 a month, Tv is i think $30 and they don't have internet and they don't have a $220 bill and they are happy. it's really not about the money cause they could afford it, but they are still in the mentality that they don't like throwing away money.

not sure how much your dad still uses the internet or how savvy he is to avoid the scams or Phishing emails, but i wish you the best of luck with that. i hope you and dad have a great day or two up at the farm.

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SB: best of luck with your daughter's car issues and i'm positive she loves having you to call just to get some needed support. more dad of the year points that is for certain.

i also hope you get your dad's computer issues fixed. my parents decided to cut their cable bill off which also included the phone and the internet. well being 85 and not being able to go in the internet with all the BS on there to scam old people isn't a bad thing and they both have cell phones so if they go to the local drug store a couple times a month to get them out of the house to buy $20 more worth of minutes that works. so now there phones are about $40 a month, Tv is i think $30 and they don't have internet and they don't have a $220 bill and they are happy. it's really not about the money cause they could afford it, but they are still in the mentality that they don't like throwing away money.

not sure how much your dad still uses the internet or how savvy he is to avoid the scams or Phishing emails, but i wish you the best of luck with that. i hope you and dad have a great day or two up at the farm.

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DrivesItFar,

Dad's computer issues were dealt with fairly quickly. His service is with AT&T but, for some reason in his location, the email used some sort of Yahoo server. Verizon has bought Yahoo and that transaction - I think - closed in June. Coincidently (or not) a value for a port handling the outbound email changed. I just had to go into the email settings and change a number.

Most people probably don't even use an email program these days - preferring to just do that task via an online web page so this change probably didn't affect that many people.

It was good to be home, if only for about 30 hours, and see how things were going.

Best regards,

Scott
 

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SB: i've got a Yahoo email and i haven't noticed any changes really since Verizon took over. i used to use Outlook and now just use MS's Windows 10 email program, but occasionally i use Yahoo's site to send and receive emails.

glad to hear it was an easy fix and good to hear you had a great time up at the farm with your Dad.

my parents might not have internet, but they are happy getting the daily newspaper (I know it's even hard to believe they are still in business) and they have a few channels on the TV to keep up with the news.

i stopped in last night to drop off a small flat of fresh raspberries we had bought them when we bought 10 to make our year's supply of freezer jam. fresh raspberries on vanilla ice cream can sure put a smile on a couple of 85 year olds.

hope your daughter worked out her car issues or do you have that next on your TO DO LIST??

have a great 4th of July!!
 
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Tuesday - July 4, 2017

Happy 4th of July to all GJer's that that event is relevant to!

Yesterday morning I heard from Serge (spelling?) of Nissan Service Department near my daughter's place. We went over what I had done to the car and why. Then we covered the time period after the car left the LBG.

Yesterday afternoon I heard from Serge again... what an odyssey. They had prudently started from scratch on the troubleshooting prior to talking to me. The #2 cylinder had been giving them fits and eventually they replaced a fuel injector there and that seems to have solved that problem.

Serge then mentioned they had found an issue in the #4 cylinder that, when they moved the spark plug to a different cylinder, the problem moved to that cylinder. When they moved the spark plug back to #4, the problem followed. After all of that, Serge believes they have the engine taken care of. They are keeping the car for another day to deal with a recall item (air bag) my daughter was unaware of.

The spark plug issue is weird... the problem is I know what I did to the engine but once it left the Lone Beech Garage on June 24th the "chain of custody" starts to go south. On June 27th it was in the Tires Plus shop where they might have moved a spark plug around (and/or) dropped it. Then it went to Nissan...

I suppose multiple failures can happen but this seems rather remarkable. Of course my solution to "fix" things was to replace the coil pack... maybe that stab in the dark was incorrect... except it seemed to work for about 120 miles.

Ha!

At least Serge spoke kindly of me when he told my daughter what had been determined. I was afraid he might admonish my daughter to "...never let your father touch your car again!" but instead he apparently gave me high marks for my efforts.

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Thursday - July 6, 2017

My daughter called today and gave me a report on her 2007 Nissan Versa (recently liberated from a local Nissan Service Department). It is running well and she is happy.

According to my daughter, and as previously reported here, the Service Manager at Nissan indicated that their troubleshooting led them to change the fuel injector on the #2 cylinder. When the folks at Nissan reassembled the Versa's engine's intake parts (again!) they still had issues on the #2 cylinder. Apparently they then moved the spark plug in #2 to #4 and the issue moved with it. At this point they reportedly replaced all the plugs and buttoned things up.

So... I replaced all the plugs as a routine maintenance procedure.

Then I replaced a coil pack and things worked for 100+ miles or so...

Then a fuel injector threw craps...

Then a spark plug was causing issues...

Golly.

I hope my daughter's Versa isn't going to suffer the fate described in Oliver Wendell Holmes poem, The Wonderful One-Hoss Shay which I read so long ago in grade school. The condensed version - a man builds a horse carriage so perfectly that it lasts for 100 years and then all of it's parts fail at exactly the same time.

Anyway, for the moment, the Versa is working.




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A package arrived in yesterday's mail containing an Autel MD802 Full System Scanner. I played with it for a while before doing any software updates. I was surprised that, at that point, it thought my 17 year old F150 had an automatic transmission. Regardless, it was interesting to play with the device.




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I then spent a couple of hours downloading over 100 updates onto the MD802's SD card. By the time I did that it was getting pretty late in the evening. I returned to my pickup and plugged the scanner into my OBD2 port.

The scanner now correctly realized that my truck had a manual transmission. Not really knowing what I was doing, I ran through some of the items in the scanner's Ford module.

I was making the instrument panels lights go on & off and the pointers on all the instruments were moving around. I was really surprised when the driver’s side electric window dropped down about 4 inches.

Wild stuff! I’d better read the manual.

Ha!


Scott
 
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Friday - July 7, 2017

Today we moved from the 21st century automotive diagnostic scanner I was playing with yesterday to a machine that was made somewhere between 1941 & 1948.

I went to an estate sale about 10 miles from my home and came across a Walker Turner MBN 1105 16-inch wood/metal Band Saw. The "Serial Number" on the Walker Turner Name Plate was 21-842. This was day 2 of the sale so I was a little surprised to see the saw still there.

A close examination of the saw was made difficult by where it was located. It was in an outbuilding with poor natural lighting and there were a few other objects on display that hindered an unencumbered approach. Despite the obstacles I noticed one thing that was unusual. The power cord was very thick and ran straight from the motor to what appeared to be a NEMA 10-30P plug (old style dryer plug). No switch between the motor and the power source. No doubt this "feature" was part of the reason this saw was still on the property.

A fellow that was involved with the sale noticed me looking at the saw and started talking it up. When I expressed some concern about if the saw worked, he said something like, "let's plug it in." I admired his enthusiasm but wasn't sure it was possible based on the odd plug.

However, we looked around and found a boxed safety switch mounted on a wall with a couple of pieces of short conduit coming out the bottom. One of the conduits terminated into a box containing a NEMA 10-30R receptacle.

The saw was plugged in by the Estate Sale minion and the safety switch was moved to the "ON" position. The saw ran!

Not only did it run but it seemed to do so without any squealing, scraping or unusual smells. We shut the saw down.

The more I looked at the saw the more it intrigued me. The thing had more metal in it than most modern cars. I walked from the outbuilding up to the main house and asked the fellow handling the money about the Band Saw.

He indicated that no one so far (this was day 2 of the sale) had expressed any interest in the saw. He was willing to drop the tagged price by almost half. I said I'd think about it and came back to my house to do some research.

BGGRNCHVY has a thread on GJ of a very similar Band Saw.

The more internet work I did the more I thought that this saw was attractive. Unlike many examples on the web, this saw seemed to be complete and with no obvious repairs. Although I did note that the weight of the many layers of paint may equal the weight of the bare saw and said paint may be covering things of concern. Still...

I asked my son to assist, once again, in retrieving a treasure. We drove back to the estate sale arriving at about 2 pm. I handed the fellow that I had discussed price with earlier some folding money and then my son & I started the job of extracting this rather massive machine from the outbuilding. [A couple of sources on the internet had indicated this Band Saw weighed 600 pounds.]



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Thirty minutes later we were back at the Lone Beech Garage. The Northern Tool Appliance Dolly was extremely useful in safely moving this machine.

Yes, we could have used the Electric Chain Hoist and the Yellow Beam to lift the Band Saw off the trailer - my son and I discussed that option and it was very tempting but...

...that would have required moving a bunch of stuff in the "long bay" to outside the LBG and we decided to minimize our exposure to the hot, humid Georgia July afternoon weather and carefully rolled the Band Saw off the trailer.




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A few Band Saw Blades came with the saw.




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I took quite a few pictures and then left for the day. I'm pretty tickled about the Art Deco look of this old machine and I hope to make it a useful tool in the near future.

Scott
 
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Scott, what a saga with your daughters car, great to read you are on top of things..:thumbup:

You have done well with the saw, that's one nice piece.:thumbup:

Regards
 

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Cool saw.

I've never run across one of the W/T's personally but I like the lines and hear plenty of good things about them. Extra bonus to the good looks is that you can move it with an appliance dolly.

Are those pre made blades for the saw or are they supply rolls that would need to be cut and welded?
 

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I spent a few minutes over in the vintage machinery index looking at some of the entries for your saw. I'm sure you've already been over there, but here is one that might be of interest.

http://www.vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=5562

The information on the serial numbers is a total mess. Seems like its almost more of a record of change more than a serial number and a bit of a **** shoot to date accurately.
 

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SB: i love WT made machines. i've got one of their bench top drill presses that came to me restored and it's built like a tank as i'm sure your bandsaw is.

good luck with the clean up and restoration if you are going to do one or maybe just use it AS IS for a while until you find out all you need to before diving it. GREAT STORY and if it was in my area i wouldn't have seen it cause it would have been gone before i got there if i wasn't first in line cause i've only seen it's big brother a couple times with the HUGE C casting and that is one big bandsaw to move around.

glad your daughter's car is running like it should and crossing fingers and toes hoping she doesn't have any more issues.

speaking of driving is there still a hole in one of your main highways where a homeless camp's fire cause it to fail? does that effect you on a daily basis or much cause i heard it shut down traffic on that side of the freeway maybe for a year or two?

always good to start off the weekend with a big new vintage tool find and hope the rest of your weekend is just as fun.

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Scott, what a saga with your daughters car, great to read you are on top of things..:thumbup:

You have done well with the saw, that's one nice piece.:thumbup:

Regards

1/2 Cup,

Thanks for stopping by and for the kind words!

Yes the daughter's Versa was probably a teaching moment for me. For the life of me I don't think I induced any trauma other than the #2 cylinder coil pack's apparent failure. Anytime you move stuff that hasn't been moved for 10 years you probably should expect some issues to result and that's what I think happened with the coil pack.

The fuel injector - probably just a random failure. Weird that it was on the same cylinder as the Coil Pack.

Lastly, the spark plug... here I suspect rough handling at Tires Plus but who knows... I've read of mechanics having trouble extracting their spark plug socket once they've torqued down the plug. When attempting to pull the assembly from spark plug hole, the socket's rubber bushing has hold of the spark plug and the extension pulls free of the socket leaving it behind. It's not hard to imagine a mechanic trying to put some side force on the extension when they pull in an attempt to keep the socket on the extension. Perhaps the spark plug was damaged during this operation. Again - speculation.

Thanks for the kind words regarding the band saw. I REALLY needed another project.

Ha!



Best regards,

Scott
 
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Cool saw.

I've never run across one of the W/T's personally but I like the lines and hear plenty of good things about them. Extra bonus to the good looks is that you can move it with an appliance dolly.

Are those pre made blades for the saw or are they supply rolls that would need to be cut and welded?

I spent a few minutes over in the vintage machinery index looking at some of the entries for your saw. I'm sure you've already been over there, but here is one that might be of interest.

http://www.vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=5562

The information on the serial numbers is a total mess. Seems like its almost more of a record of change more than a serial number and a bit of a **** shoot to date accurately.



250,

The blades appear to be 113-inches - which is what someone painted on the inside of the upper wheel cover, "BLADE LENGTH 113". It's hard to see in the pictures I'm going to post soon but it's there in red paint.

These are heavy rascals... even with the appliance dolly it was fun trying to get it back onto the dolly's outrigger wheels. I don't know if I could have done it by myself. It was good to have my son applying force from the front while I tried to get it up on the dolly's wheels from the back.

I too have spent some time on the Vintage Machinery Website but I also came across a publication - contained a picture of my machine - during my internet searching that indicated this machine was a model MBN 1105. EDIT: Found it on page 24 of this 1944 Walker-Turner Catalog.

Agree that anything beyond a date range for when these machines were built would require an invoice (or some other evidence) for when a particular machine was purchased.

Walker Turner Serial Numbers on the Vintage Machinery Website indicates that model MBN 1105 with a "serial number" of 21-842 was made from 1939-1948.

Also on the Vintage Machinery Website was a document that could be downloaded: Walker-Turner Model BN1135 and MBN1105 16" Band Saws. The page with the link to download this document is here.
This publication has a note regarding some of the components of the belt drive system. If I am interpreting this document correctly, the condensed version is that some things on my machine mean it was built in 1941 or later.

These two facts would seem to date my machine from 1941-1948.


Best regards,

Scott
 
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SB: i love WT made machines. i've got one of their bench top drill presses that came to me restored and it's built like a tank as i'm sure your bandsaw is.

good luck with the clean up and restoration if you are going to do one or maybe just use it AS IS for a while until you find out all you need to before diving it. GREAT STORY and if it was in my area i wouldn't have seen it cause it would have been gone before i got there if i wasn't first in line cause i've only seen it's big brother a couple times with the HUGE C casting and that is one big bandsaw to move around.

glad your daughter's car is running like it should and crossing fingers and toes hoping she doesn't have any more issues.

speaking of driving is there still a hole in one of your main highways where a homeless camp's fire cause it to fail? does that effect you on a daily basis or much cause i heard it shut down traffic on that side of the freeway maybe for a year or two?

always good to start off the weekend with a big new vintage tool find and hope the rest of your weekend is just as fun.

cheers


DrivesItFar,

Yeah, as I mentioned, when I saw it sitting there on Day 2 I was thinking, "What am I missing that makes this thing undesirable to everyone else?" I can only guess it was the electrical setup and the mass of the thing.

I plan on cleaning it up and then using it ...so it's a project.

Thanks for wishing my daughter's car well; so far there has been no wailing or gnashing of teeth from her regarding the Versa.

The collapse of I-85 in Atlanta was due to some drug abusers setting fire to plastic pipe that had been stored beneath an overpass. That was quite a fire!

In a display of how fast the government can move if properly motivated, I-85 was repaired and reopened in about a month and a half!

I am confident the normal bidding process, environmental studies, request for public input, etc. were bypassed and the road was worked on around the clock - by contractors and Government Inspectors alike - to get it back in business.

Amazing!

Yes, procuring the Walker Turner Band Saw made for the start of a fun weekend!


Best regards,

Scott
 
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A few more pictures of the Walker Turner Band Saw




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The Walker Turner "badge".




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General Electric 220 Volt motor - other details unknown.




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Doors open!




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This area is apparently prone to cracking but I don't see any issues - so far.




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Belt Cover.



Scott
 

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The fuel injector - probably just a random failure. Weird that it was on the same cylinder as the Coil Pack.

Scott
A lean mix is harder to fire, which for a coilpack means more heat, and a higher likelihood of arcing through the insulation in the spark plug cavity.
given the age of the car, having one die isn't a surprise.
 

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I too, have experienced "random" failures after performing seemingly unrelated repairs. I suspect it to be more related to removing the wiring connectors from old electrical components that have been exposed to hundreds if not thousands of heat cycles. I think they become brittle and more susceptible to damage. I replaced head gaskets on my daughter's car only to have the cam position sensor fail within a week. I also had the throttle position sensor fail on my car, soon after replacing the intake gaskets. I am now much more careful about removing the connectors.
 
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A lean mix is harder to fire, which for a coilpack means more heat, and a higher likelihood of arcing through the insulation in the spark plug cavity.
given the age of the car, having one die isn't a surprise.

I too, have experienced "random" failures after performing seemingly unrelated repairs. I suspect it to be more related to removing the wiring connectors from old electrical components that have been exposed to hundreds if not thousands of heat cycles. I think they become brittle and more susceptible to damage. I replaced head gaskets on my daughter's car only to have the cam position sensor fail within a week. I also had the throttle position sensor fail on my car, soon after replacing the intake gaskets. I am now much more careful about removing the connectors.

Thanks guys!

Speaking of random failures...

My Autel MD802 Scanner seems to have died. I'll be calling Tech Support tomorrow to see if it's operator error ...but I don't think it is.


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Sunday - July 9, 2017

Although most of the afternoon was spent getting my yard mowed I did get some time this evening in the LBG to piddle around with the Walker Turner Band Saw.




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The first order of business was getting out the shop vac and removing as much sawdust from the innards of the machine as possible.




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I also tried exercising some of the knobs. Among others, I loosened the table lock and tried adjusting the table tilt. This worked pretty good but I'm going to have to clean the gunk off the upper part of the jack screw. This amount of tilt was about all I could get without forcing things.




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I attempted to move the lever that engages/disengages the reduction gears (White Arrow). I couldn't move it.

Something to investigate in the future.


Scott
 

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SB: slow and steady with the WT and i'm sure you'll have it cleaned up and running even better than it has in years. a product i use is KROIL which isn't cheap for un rusting old screws. some guys use their torch or even MAPP GAS that we use mostly for copper plumbing to loosen up old bolts and parts. there are many many many other products or almost homemade solutions to use or mix up so if you need more help just ask and i'll try to find some links or maybe one of the other members might know of something.

good luck

really good to hear your main freeway to and or thru Atlanta doesn't still have a hole in it. yep if you can get government out of it's own way they can get STUFF DONE that is for certain. just wish they'd get out of the way more often and use a bit more common sense on a lot more things.

hope you had a great weekend and it was mid 80's up here and we went to a street fair in the little town of STANWOOD Friday and i discovered (or rediscoverd a TAYBERRY). it's a cross between a raspberry and blackberry and OMG are they tasty. they squish to easily so need to be hand picked and not huge yet commercially, but if you get a chance to buy and/or eat some you might give them a try.

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SB: slow and steady with the WT and i'm sure you'll have it cleaned up and running even better than it has in years. a product i use is KROIL which isn't cheap for un rusting old screws. some guys use their torch or even MAPP GAS that we use mostly for copper plumbing to loosen up old bolts and parts. there are many many many other products or almost homemade solutions to use or mix up so if you need more help just ask and i'll try to find some links or maybe one of the other members might know of something.

good luck

Awesome score on band saw.


DrivesItFar & shortykorte,

Thanks for your thoughts on the Walker-Turner. I'm looking forward to putting it through a pretty good refurbishment process in the near future.


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Wednesday - July 12, 2017

The Walker-Turner Band Saw is starting to distract me from projects that need to be finished. The Miter Saw Station has been on its back in the Wood Shop for quite a while - patiently waiting for me to build the face frame. The Steel Table I purchased off of Craigslist back in March (Post 1814) needs to be cleaned up and put to use. Right now it is blocking use of the Drive-Through Bay and preventing easy use of the Electric Chain Hoist.

I started the day thinking I'd get cracking on the Miter Saw Station but I needed some extra hands to get it into a position that I could work on it. Those extra hands - belonging to my spouse and my son - were going to be unavailable until about supper time. I decided to work on the Steel Table.




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The first order of business was to remove the drawers from their housing. Once that was done I began to ponder just how I was going to remove the Drawer Housings themselves.
These things were each attached by a couple of bolts under the front edge of the table. The rear part of each Drawer Housing drooped until it sat on the shelf built into the table.
After examining the situation for several minutes I realized that getting access to those little bolts was going to be a major PITA.




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I started with the right side and I was able - with quite a bit of effort - to remove the bolt closest to the middle of the table. With that bolt removed I was able to pivot the Drawer Housing which allowed me to be able to reach the bolt closest to the table leg. It was still difficult to get a wrench on both the bolt head and the nut but it would have been virtually impossible had I not pivoted the Housing.




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With the first Drawer Housing removed, it is easier to see how these components were "mounted" to the table. Two bolts and gravity did all the work.




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...again, removing the bolt closest to the middle allowed the second Drawer Housing to be pivoted - allowing enough access to the remaining fastener to get the Housing removed.




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I forgot to mention that, in addition to the fasteners being difficult to see/reach, they were all different pairs of hardware. Fortunately 6 of the 8 were freed with a 7/16-inch wrench. That castle nut gave me fits because as I would adjust the wrench on it, a prong of my open-end wrench would often stick into one of the slots in the nut. Don't get me started on that spline-headed thing on the far left... I had to use vise-grip pliers to get that *#!@ thing to start moving, then it was just many repetitive quarter turns with a normal pliers. Due to the location of these fasteners almost all the work was done by feel.




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It took quite a bit of patient work - and it helped that my hands are small - but eventually the Drawer Housings were removed from the table.



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Continued...

It was now early evening and my bride and my son were summoned to help with "a 10 minute job". They suspected treachery with the length of time I had quoted and approached the LBG warily.


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I had positioned four 5-gallon paint buckets around the Miter Saw Station.




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My son and I got on one end and lifted the carcass of the Miter Saw Station. My wife positioned the buckets under that end and then we repeated the procedure on the opposite end.

It took about 10 minutes. Ha!




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I had decided that it would be useful to - as much as possible - clamp the face frame parts in place to make sure the fit was going to work. Before quitting for the night I goofed around with some clamps seeing if my scheme was going to work.
I think it will.


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I attempted to move the lever that engages/disengages the reduction gears (White Arrow). I couldn't move it.

Something to investigate in the future.


Scott

If the WT ****** is anything like the powermatic ones on their 143's, there are two cogs that have to line up on opposing wheels/gears to engage the low drive. What I didn't realize until opening up the box is that it takes a lot of revolutions by hand of the lower blade wheel to get them to line up. Try giving it a lot more time than seems rational and see what happens.
 
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If the WT ****** is anything like the powermatic ones on their 143's, there are two cogs that have to line up on opposing wheels/gears to engage the low drive. What I didn't realize until opening up the box is that it takes a lot of revolutions by hand of the lower blade wheel to get them to line up. Try giving it a lot more time than seems rational and see what happens.

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I had bookmarked a fellow's Walker-Turner restoration thread and was going to link a picture of the gearbox with its cover off. Alas, it appears that PhotoBucket has cut off his bandwidth and the pictures are being held hostage by the hosting service.

Despite a shifter that felt locked up - I mean not even a suggestion of movement when I tried to shift it - I thought it worth a shot to try your technique. I went out to the LBG and started pulling the drive belt to get everything moving. All the while, as I pulled on the belt, I was applying pressure to the shift lever. I knew I had probably spun the wheels more than long enough when my attention wandered and I managed to get one of my fingers between the belt and the pulley.

That woke me up.

I guess we'll see what's going on when I open up the gear box at some future date.

Thanks for the suggestion!

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Friday - July 14, 2017

This afternoon I managed to get a couple of hours of work into the Miter Saw Station's face frame. It should be noted that having a miter saw station would be very useful in building a miter saw station.




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I started positioning some of the poplar I had ripped to size on the Miter Saw Station's carcass and marking pieces for cutting.




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Did I mention how useful it would be to have a miter saw station for this task?




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Clamps held the Face Frame components in position as I cut, fit, cut again and finally put a puzzle piece in place.




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After a couple of hours I had all the pieces in place. I marked all of them so I can identify where they go when I start fastening the Face Frame together with pocket screws.

That will have to wait for another day.


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Lol. Same with building a welding table.
Looks like you'll have a vey station come Sunday.


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Lol. Same with building a welding table.
Looks like you'll have a vey station come Sunday.

shortykorte,

Thanks for stopping by and sending that "ray of sunshine" regarding building a welding table. Ha! I'd like to build a welding table some day.

I made pretty good progress on the Miter Saw Station yesterday & today.

Report follows.

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Saturday - July 15, 2017


Managed to spend several hours in the LBG's Woodshop today and get more work done on the Miter Saw Station.




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As previously posted, the Face Frame will be assembled with Pocket Screws. I used the jig on a couple of pieces of face frame scrap. I was impressed with how rigid this joint was after screwing it together.




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I started carefully unclamping the Face Frame parts. I used an old Workmate work stand to hold the pieces as I drilled the pocket screw holes.




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The biggest challenge for me was trying to figure out where to drill the holes. The Face Frame is a somewhat complicated assembly. I had thought I'd put pocket screw holes across one of the long pieces but I tried this idea on a piece of scrap first (see picture). That wasn't going to work.




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I thought drilling pocket screw holes on each side of a Face Frame piece would cause interference between the opposing screws. A test of how deep the screws actually went eliminated that concern.


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I put down some scraps of MDF onto the shop floor and put the pieces of the Face Frame into their correct positions.




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Then it was just a matter of screwing the pocket screws into their holes. Care was taken to place and fasten each piece where I had marked it earlier.




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With the Face Frame assembled, I sat it against the carcass.




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When I placed the Face Frame onto the front of the Miter Saw Station, I was pleased to see that it lined up pretty well.



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The Face Frame was clamped into position...




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...then a pneumatic brad nailer was used to attach the Face Frame to the carcass. The clamps were removed as I worked my way from one end of the Miter Saw Station to the other.




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I had purposefully made the Face Frame a little larger than the plans called for. I intended to use the extra height as a "fudge factor". With the Face Frame secured in place, I used a flush bit router bit to trim the extra bit or wood off the bottom of the face frame.




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The plans call for a skirt board around the bottom of the Miter Saw Station. I had my son & wife come out to help rotate the assembly to make this task easier.




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One last bit of manual labor (my son & I) to get the Miter Saw Station on its feet. This thing is VERY heavy!




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The Makita LS1011 was remounted and "stuff" quickly found its way into the storage areas. There are a few more details to add before this project is complete but these should not require the grunting and straining it took to get the Face Frame attached to the project.

Details include: Some "drawers" inside some of the storage spaces, doors for the front of where the shop vac lives, some electrical automation that will turn on the shop vac when the Makita's saw switch is activated and some sort of fence system to help with repetitive cuts.



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That turned out great. I really like the design and could use that in my shop. Another project for another day.


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That turned out great. I really like the design and could use that in my shop. Another project for another day.


shortykorte,

It wasn't cheap to build and it takes up a lot of real estate but I think it will work well for me.

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Fine job on the miter station. I see the huge dust collector next to it and the vacuum below. I also see a couple holes leading in the general direction of the dust collector. I don't see any hole in the back where the vacuum hose is positioned, so I don't know how you hooked that up. Are you eventually going to hook it up to the dust collector? If not, you'll need a vent into the lower cabinet for the air from the vacuum to escape, after the door is installed.
 
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