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I don't know how to link things. I am not very computer savvy.
Do you have "Google" or any search engine should pull it up. But it may be like your link that would not let me play the Bonfire song.

Sorry I know this is no help at all. May be some one else on here will come to our rescue.
 
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I don't know how to link things. I am not very computer savvy.
Do you have "Google" or any search engine should pull it up. But it may be like your link that would not let me play the Bonfire song.

Sorry I know this is no help at all. May be some one else on here will come to our rescue.

Don't worry brother! :beer::beer::beer:
 

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I have done searches on periscope and find people doing scopes in Russia. I follow a lady that lives in Yekanterinburg who speaks very good English. Where did you learn English? Any idea what percentage of Russian people speak or read English?
 
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I have done searches on periscope and find people doing scopes in Russia. I follow a lady that lives in Yekanterinburg who speaks very good English. Where did you learn English? Any idea what percentage of Russian people speak or read English?

School/University :D

I think 20-30%.

The level of knowledge is different. Freely can speak English in Russia, I think 1-2% of the total population of the Russian Federation is 140 million.
I think my level of English is below average, I only know the basics of this language.
 

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Absolutely right!
If we look at the map of Krasnoyarsk, we will see that on the right bank of the Yenisei along the Trans-Siberian Railway the entire city's industry is concentrated. During the Great Patriotic War, from the western part of the USSR, factories were evacuated to the deep rear of the country - SIBERIA, KAZAKHSTAN, for the Ural ridge. Further, according to eyewitnesses it was so, the train came with equipment, it was immediately unloaded next to the railway branch and started in an empty field to produce weapons and equipment for the front, parallel tents were installed, and then barracks were built for the workers of these future plants. After the war, these plants and houses remained some exist to this day.

How old are you, Bogdan?

I read about that. The railroad was a key factor for this very fast relocation. And, as I remember, this was very important in the war from a strategic point of view.

I am 30 years old.

Today I want to show for you some one car GAZ-21 "VOLGA".
It's a one car of my father-in-law. It's a treasure. He bought it from an old man, from whom she was kept in a garage in good condition. He wants to pass its car on to my son by inherited :)
Cool car! I know someone that owns the same car and had it restored.
 

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Stas: great pictures of your dad's old car that i guess your son is getting, great pictures of the city and more about you and your life and of course my wife would have killed me if i posted a picture of her in one of her string bikinis, but thanks for getting permission first so you'll be around for a while.

we didn't have cell phone cameras to take pictures of all our wives and girlfriends when we were younger or the internet and i can see the GOOD and BAD of having that option.

WOW tall buildings in Siberia. WHO HERE IN THE USA KNEW?? apparently rumors were correct that the USSR sent all the smart people (and good looking ones too) to SIBERIA?

thanks for taking the time to share.

have a great day!!
 

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My aunt and uncle used to live in what was somewhat similar to a closed city back in the day,

Hi! YES :)
Where are you and your aunt/uncle from?.

Babbitt, Nevada, just outside of Hawthorne. It's mostly gone now, mainly a few expensive houses and a golf course, and a few old military warehouses that are now used for private industry (all the houses, stores, etc. are long gone), but back then it was a booming little town of it's own. He worked at the Munitions plant, my aunt was the postmaster. And I still remember being yelled at for asking what my uncle did - must have been "hot stuff"!

My other uncle (and aunt) lived in Weed Heights (outside of Yerington), he was an engineer at the HUGE open pit copper mine there (Anaconda Yerington); I remember looking through his telescope in his office at the "plant" (miles of conveyer belts, the crushers, etc.) , and at the massive equipment at the far side of the mine (that looked like toy trucks and ants). For years I had a big chunk of natural copper from there; I (foolishly) gave it away to a friend.

Since then, it's fenced off and closed with monitoring wells - seems there's lead and arsenic and asbestos and natural radioactivity there - the pit is now a huge (and somewhat toxic) lake. I remember their water tasting "funny" and "metallic" (moreso than the normal Nevada ground water, which was also pretty awful), maybe that's where the green skin came from! (ha ha ha)

:Freak: :Kodos: :eek2:

Latitude is not the most important thing in the climate, the transfer of air masses is important. In our country it goes from west to east, gradually cooling down and cold air already reaches us, and to Yakutia (which is to the east) even colder.

Similar to the Midwest in the northern US and Canada - my mom was raised in the Dakotas, and she used to say 15-20 below zero (F not C!!) was when it started to get "chilly". Must run in the family - until it gets below freezing, I still call it "balmy". :spit:

Issue of the newspaper "Krasnoyarsk worker" of December 18, 1934 with the announcement of the formation of Krasnoyarskiy Kray.
Krasnoyarsky_Rabochy_of_1934-12-18,_sheet_1 by Stanislav Bogachev, on Flickr

I don't know which is cooler - that clipping from the paper or your father in law's Volga. That is one sweet ride, and your son is really fortunate to have such a cool "inheritance"! your cabin in the woods looks an awful lot like where we live - tall pines, cedars and firs - and lots of forests (and woodcutting) in our "neck of the woods". I'll also have to post some of our winter roads - they look an awful lot like yours! (We traveled through western Russia a few years ago, and I think that's what got us to move from the city to a house in the woods!) I was also wondering - in New York, there's a river called the Gennessee...
sounds a lot like Enyisee...

Anyway, thanks for sharing that!!!
 
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Stas: great pictures of your dad's old car that i guess your son is getting, great pictures of the city and more about you and your life and of course my wife would have killed me if i posted a picture of her in one of her string bikinis, but thanks for getting permission first so you'll be around for a while.

we didn't have cell phone cameras to take pictures of all our wives and girlfriends when we were younger or the internet and i can see the GOOD and BAD of having that option.

WOW tall buildings in Siberia. WHO HERE IN THE USA KNEW?? apparently rumors were correct that the USSR sent all the smart people (and good looking ones too) to SIBERIA?

thanks for taking the time to share.

have a great day!!

As for smart people in Russia, they are everywhere.

Modern construction is divided into 2 types, the first is a house of iron-concrete slabs as in the USSR, it is now an economy-housing, the second is a house on the basis of a monolithic iron-concrete frame and brick partitions (in the photo in the center it is the 2nd type). In such houses, there is usually an underground parking lot, which costs half of the apartment :)

Photo of my wife in Vietnam I was shooting on a Nikon D3100 camera not on the smartphone.
 
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Babbitt, Nevada, just outside of Hawthorne. It's mostly gone now, mainly a few expensive houses and a golf course, and a few old military warehouses that are now used for private industry (all the houses, stores, etc. are long gone), but back then it was a booming little town of it's own. He worked at the Munitions plant, my aunt was the postmaster. And I still remember being yelled at for asking what my uncle did - must have been "hot stuff"!

My other uncle (and aunt) lived in Weed Heights (outside of Yerington), he was an engineer at the HUGE open pit copper mine there (Anaconda Yerington); I remember looking through his telescope in his office at the "plant" (miles of conveyer belts, the crushers, etc.) , and at the massive equipment at the far side of the mine (that looked like toy trucks and ants). For years I had a big chunk of natural copper from there; I (foolishly) gave it away to a friend.

Since then, it's fenced off and closed with monitoring wells - seems there's lead and arsenic and asbestos and natural radioactivity there - the pit is now a huge (and somewhat toxic) lake. I remember their water tasting "funny" and "metallic" (moreso than the normal Nevada ground water, which was also pretty awful), maybe that's where the green skin came from! (ha ha ha)

:Freak: :Kodos: :eek2:



Similar to the Midwest in the northern US and Canada - my mom was raised in the Dakotas, and she used to say 15-20 below zero (F not C!!) was when it started to get "chilly". Must run in the family - until it gets below freezing, I still call it "balmy". :spit:



I don't know which is cooler - that clipping from the paper or your father in law's Volga. That is one sweet ride, and your son is really fortunate to have such a cool "inheritance"! your cabin in the woods looks an awful lot like where we live - tall pines, cedars and firs - and lots of forests (and woodcutting) in our "neck of the woods". I'll also have to post some of our winter roads - they look an awful lot like yours! (We traveled through western Russia a few years ago, and I think that's what got us to move from the city to a house in the woods!) I was also wondering - in New York, there's a river called the Gennessee...
sounds a lot like Enyisee...

Anyway, thanks for sharing that!!!

Very interesting
 

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School/University :D

I think 20-30%.

The level of knowledge is different. Freely can speak English in Russia, I think 1-2% of the total population of the Russian Federation is 140 million.
I think my level of English is below average, I only know the basics of this language.

Your comprehension and written skills in English seem to be very good. About like the average Aussie:willy_nil

Seriously I've noticed you seem to interpret our comments very accurately. Your sentence structure is still shows your legacy but we understand what you are saying very clearly.

For example "Freely can speak English in Russia" I understand, but I would say "I can freely speak..." or "Anyone can freely speak...". In any event communication is achieved.

This sentence, however, is absolutely perfect English: "I think my level of English is below average, I only know the basics of this language."

Are you glad you started the thread? You have a large audience enjoying your posts.

Please don't think of my comments on your English as criticism, you are doing very well indeed.
 

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Add me to the list of people fascinated by your thread! A week old thread with this much traffic might qualify you as garage journal famous :)

Like everyone else I enjoy seeing how folks in other countries work on their projects and hobbies. Russia is one of those countries we just don't get a lot of exposure to here in the states, like say countries in South America or Europe. I really enjoyed Vlad's thread (sorry can't remember how to spell his user name, vieuex maybe!).

One last comment before signing off. I noticed there are no Cyrillic characters in your license plates on the cars. Any interesting story behind that?

And finally keep the photos coming. I'd like to see more of your cars and what you do in your workshop. And keep posting photos of daily life if your city, great stuff.

-Clint
 
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Your comprehension and written skills in English seem to be very good. About like the average Aussie:willy_nil

Seriously I've noticed you seem to interpret our comments very accurately. Your sentence structure is still shows your legacy but we understand what you are saying very clearly.

For example "Freely can speak English in Russia" I understand, but I would say "I can freely speak..." or "Anyone can freely speak...". In any event communication is achieved.

This sentence, however, is absolutely perfect English: "I think my level of English is below average, I only know the basics of this language."

Are you glad you started the thread? You have a large audience enjoying your posts.

Please don't think of my comments on your English as criticism, you are doing very well indeed.

Thank you very much, Andy (if i right understand from your signature) ! :thumbup:

I understand that sometimes I can write something very funny, because I don't speak on your language at a sufficient level. It seems to me that on this forum, I am like the Tajiks in Russia or Mexicans in the United States :bounce::bounce::bounce:

I'm very happy that start the thread on this site.
 
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I too have very much enjoyed seeing your part of the world and find it gratifying that tools, garages, and beer are universally enjoyed!
 
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Add me to the list of people fascinated by your thread! A week old thread with this much traffic might qualify you as garage journal famous :)

Like everyone else I enjoy seeing how folks in other countries work on their projects and hobbies. Russia is one of those countries we just don't get a lot of exposure to here in the states, like say countries in South America or Europe. I really enjoyed Vlad's thread (sorry can't remember how to spell his user name, vieuex maybe!).

One last comment before signing off. I noticed there are no Cyrillic characters in your license plates on the cars. Any interesting story behind that?

And finally keep the photos coming. I'd like to see more of your cars and what you do in your workshop. And keep posting photos of daily life if your city, great stuff.

-Clint

Hi Clint!

About lisence plate it's very simple to answer - Russia signed the Vienna Convention on road traffic, according to it,
"Annex 2 Registration number and plate of motor vehicles and trailers in international traffic

1. Specified in articles 35 and 36 of this Convention the registration number shall consist of numerals or of numerals and letters. Numerals should be Arabic, and the capital letters of the Latin alphabet. However, be used other numbers or letters, but in such cases the registration number shall be repeated in Arabic numerals and capital Latin letters."

During the Soviet era lisence plates were with all the letters of the Russian alphabet.

I want to tell and show you all a lot, but for me it is difficult because to write in English quickly and correctly is a major challenge for me. I will show you how we build a garage, what I do in garage, show our city, the car and all around.

Be patient please :pimpflash
 
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Hi for all!
A few photos of our district of the city, called "Leningradskiy", because it was designed by the designers of the Leningrad Institute in St. Petersburg (in Soviet times, the city was called Leningrad)
The road near my house and garage, the street is called 60 let VLKSM (translated as "60 years of all-Union Leninist Communist Union of youth")

Going to the post office

Out of the mail and take photos from the porch. On the right Mira street in translation is "World Peace" street. A modern house built a few years ago.
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Crossroad 60 let VLKSM street and Mira street. Car in the center right-hands drive Toyota IST. On the right Honda CRV.
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To the left from porch of post office. Car from the left Mazda 3 second generation, on the right front Toyota Mark2 Qualis, on the right behind white Mazda Demio
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Going out from post office to the Mira street (World Peace street in translation). Toyota RAV4 and Land Cruiser. Car under snow white color VAZ-2103 (in the spoken language Three - "Troyka")/
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A small shop near my house where I buy a beer :)
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The kindergarten which my son went called Kapitoshka (Kapitoshka — merry drop of summer rain, she carries the colors of the rainbow, the sun's energy and the life-giving power of water., which painted on their logo). One of STUPID park his Gelendwagen on the lawn
Soviet Cartoon Kapitoshka
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Near the kindergarten is a Department store in translate "UNIVERMAG" (in Soviet times was called Baltic in honor of the Baltic sea. Now on the roof has an old sign and all citizen still called it's Baltic, and the facade has the new name of Trade house "Mihailova" is the surname of the owner. I'm was a little boy like my son now when this store was builded and opened) in about 1989-90.
Cars from right to the left - GAZ-24 "VOLGA" second model, Toyota Ipsum JDM / Toyota Picnic in Europe, VAZ-2108 "Vosmerka" - 8 - Eight pre-restyling with short fenders, Suzuki Escudo like Vova car, Yellow VAZ-2106 "Shesterka" - 6 - SIX, Toyota Corolla JDM.

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Near with the garage complex has a school where was studied my wife. Building painted in light orange color on the right
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I'm thinking the school could grow significantly if you allow them to use the photo of your wife with the caption: "Go to school here and look like this upon graduation".
 
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Another snowfall outside the window it's time for a new post on the forum.

This weekend decided to make cleaning the radiator compartment heater for Toyota Passo for my father-in-law. The problem was that the maximum temperature of the heating grids was blowing a little warm air and -20 Celsius in the street inside the car was very cold. Having studied the experience of other owners on Internet forums decided that the problem is clogged half the heater core of the cabin, because of the left vents the air was slightly warm and the right cold. The radiator is transversely and the pipes join to the left, i.e. right side of the radiator is clogged with deposits.


TOYOTA PASSO/ DAIHATSU BOON from JAPAN color likes Ferrari :)
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Cover on the right seat is ELECTRIC HEATER named EMELYA like a russian fairy tale character.
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K3-VE engine 1.3 liter 4 cylinders - mustang power :)

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The solution is flushing the radiator with water with dissolved citric acid. Citric acid is used in cooking and preparation of drinks, its code according to the European classification of E-330. I bought 30 bags of 10 gram each total for 150 rubles. The store of spare parts for Lada, bought an electric pump for cooling system 1200 rubles, 3 m hose clamps. Power supply 12 volt we had in the garage, converted from a computer power supply. At the hardware store bought metal galvanized bucket for 250 rubles to 9 liters.

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Disable the turns of the heater core, connect 2 our hose. One hose is the supply to the radiator by means of the pump, and the second is the return line. Composition with citric acid works at high temperatures almost 100 degrees Celsius (boiling point), the house in this way we clean the kettles from the scale.



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The most difficult thing is to force the air out of the system and force the pump to pump. It is necessary to remember the school course of physics and apply it, a little magic and the system starts working. :)
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Power supply on the left

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Old a single hob electric oven showed no result, had to run to the store and buy a heater 1.5 kW
The water in the bucket quickly grew turbid

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Today we decided to continue flushing because I didn't have enough time for this. Brought from the country working electric stove, bought another 20 bags of citric acid. Decided to change the direction of flushing, hooked up hoses and began the washing process. The whole washing process took 3.5 hours, 1.5 hours on Saturday and 2 hours Sunday.
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After cleaning with citric acid, do a rinse with clean water.
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Clean water. You can see how citric acid ate the zinc off the sides of the bucket
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After cleaning change antifreeze for new and enjoying warm air from heater.
 

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Great job on the heater core!

A few questions (of course, me and Drivesitfar)

Why not use a cooking pot instead of a new galvanized bucket?

Were you concerned with the citric eating through the heater coils?

Did you consider some baking soda in a pre-rinse to neutralize the acid?

Did you use distilled water or is your water low mineral content?

Did the pump use too much power to just use the car battery for power?

Is you avatar a self portrait or is that some famous Russian celebrity we don't know?

I'm done asking now...
 

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Stas great you have your own thread; easier to communicate. We have fenced communities here in the U.S. but only for those who want to keep the old junk we call treasure out of sight. So those who live in one have to work without being too visible. Life is what you make it and as you know here on GJ we all make it in many different ways!
 

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Citrus acid, a good trick for that purpose. I've not seen that used before so thanks for explaining the process. I learned a new way to do this repair by reading here. This is why we all love GJ.
 

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I'd not read the name Emelya before, and I'd never heard of Emelya and the Magic Pike. Now I have. I really enjoy the broad reach of this site.

The name caught my eye because my daughter's name is Amelia, and I believe both names have the same meaning. A quick Google search tells me that both names might mean "amiable" or peaceable.
 

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Stas26 Шикарная 21-я Волга! Lovely old car! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

rmalkow2 Citric acid is an excellent cleaning tool. It is especially useful when cleaning the coffee maker, kettle.
 

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...Regarding living in an apartment, I would like to add something and I hope Stas doesn't mind.
I'm from Romania, so there are some similarities between my country and Russia. USSR had a major influence in Romania for the whole communist period.
Living in an apartment was not really a choice.
All the countries of the Eastern Bloc had a major objectives in industrialization.
Because almost all companies were state owned, everything was decided by politicians. This meant that many cities were created for the sole purpose of creating an industrial city.
And not only that, but all big cities had big factories built almost everywhere. But where do you find workers in a country that doesn't have a high level of industrialization?
People from the country side were organized in state farms or went to a very fast learning process to later work in a factory in a city.
Where can you house so many people in a small amount of time? Apartment buildings were the solution. Fast, cheap and easy to build.
In my town of Bucharest there are whole neighborhoods that revolved around some industrial areas. Old houses were demolished and in their place apartment buildings appeared.
Of course that it would have been nicer to live in a nice house with a yard and a garage, but financially speaking this wouldn't have been possible.
Then there was the question about the distance between the apartment and the garage.
Workers weren't supposed to own cars necessarily. The idea was to live in an apartment building which was relatively close to the factory. So you could walk or use the public transport.

Hope this clarifies a lot.

Thank you...I kind of thought this is still the case in Russia and most Soviet Bloc countries, but was unsure...you really make sense in my mind....totally understand the social nature of Soviet city design. Very communal...we are very fortunate in America that we can live in more ways than apartment life and that our city planners gave us space...LOL
 

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You are right, you really are very fortunate!
The American standard of living has nothing to do with the Eastern European one.
And the remark about the communal way of life is also spot on.
For example, just before the fall of the regime, a crazy project to build several big buildings to serve as produce markets but also as public dining rooms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunger_circus

The irony is that those buildings have been transformed are are now used as malls.
But the original intention was that the working class would not spend time to cook at home but eat in those buildings.
I think that the idea was that you, as an individual, are insignificant in comparison with the state. Communist architecture has the same idea. You feel small, irrelevant when you are looking at a building of this sort.
 

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Is this a inspection pit, under the wood boards or a french drain I see in this photo?
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Nice car and good job on cleaning the coil...are you worried about the outside of the coil? Does the interior have a cabin filter? Maybe the outside of the radiator is dirty from dust and ingested road grime? Just curious, I know newer vehicles here have cabin filters.

As a reader of your thread, I try to relate how my life would be if I were living as your neighbor in your housing building.
So I am wondering where could I drive south to a warmer vacation spot during the winter?
Here in America, I can drive for 13 hours and be in warm New Orleans....as your neighbor, if I look south on the map, I see Kyzyl, Tuva, Russia 10 hour drive...south of there is Mongolia border crossing....so I ask.
Is there a place you can drive in a full day where you can be in a vacation spot?
Or do you have to fly to Vietnam anytime you want to go on vacation?
Are you able to "drive" to China, Mongolia, or any country on the Asian continent?

Also, can you talk a bit about the Yenisei River, next to your city.
I understand it flows from south to the north arctic sea...very amazing!
I tried to follow it to it mountian beginning somewhere past Mongolia..
Does your city use the river to generate power or do you get electric power from Nuclear or coal plant?
Do you have reliable electric power?
How is your apartment warmed? Electricity? Natural Gas? Oil? Wood?

Sorry for all the questions....you do not have to answer any of them!
I just thank you for what you have shared ....спасибо
 

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Stas: was that easier than taking the heater core out and doing it outside the car and i think i already know that answer, but i've never repaired or replaced one on any of my cars.

great pictures about of your country and projects. also I really like hearing about the politics or style of living within different country's rules or policies.

sounds like Andy asked all the questions today and it's Sunday here so i'm not going to ask as many today. BTW is it Sunday in Siberia or are you on the same day as we are cause I think it's still Sunday in Romania where Bogdan lives?
 

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Stas, I too welcome you to the message board. Along with Vieux, your posts serve so well to remind us that people around the world have the same basic hopes and thoughts - that you can find work which satisfies you, and you can raise a family and enjoy traveling and a hobby of your choice, have good schools, and that you can be safe. A few questions from me - What is the price of one liter of milk, one liter of orange juice, one liter of Coke or Pepsi or your local "Cola"? Do you have McDonalds or Kentucky Fried Chicken? Or is there a local fast food restaurant chain?

Anyway I wish that politics would fade to the background - we have much more in common than what separates us. Keep the posts coming and as others have said, your English is just fine.
 

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Ah yes, some good ole Russian ingenuity at work. Stas, keep the pics coming, this is very interesting. I keep coming back to this thread for more!
 
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Great job on the heater core!

A few questions (of course, me and Drivesitfar)

Ok, Andy! :p

Why not use a cooking pot instead of a new galvanized bucket?
Because the pot is then used in cooking, and I am not sure that the breakdown products of antifreeze, acids and other contaminants can cleaned from it for safe further cooking

Were you concerned with the citric eating through the heater coils?
No problem with it, because material of heater is aluminium like heater of our car, it SAFE :thumbup:

Did you consider some baking soda in a pre-rinse to neutralize the acid?
The rest of the acid washed away with fresh clean water

Did you use distilled water or is your water low mineral content?
ordinary tap water for rinsing is not necessary to use distilled.

Did the pump use too much power to just use the car battery for power?
I don't know how much power is needed for pump, but I'm think that power supply prefer for it.

Is you avatar a self portrait or is that some famous Russian celebrity we don't know?

I'm done asking now...

On avatar it's me, I really like the movie Cobra with Sylvester Stallone in the title role, in the photo I was trying to be like him :) :cool:
 
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Stas26

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I would have used vinegar. I have also used Liqui Moly radiator cleaner.
If this gets the job done, well done! :thumbup:

The heater core has the rubber seals, I think acetic acid is too aggressive for them, so we decided not to risk it and use citric acid. At home when cleaning the kettle use of citric and acetic acid, both show excellent results.

In our autoparts store I see some fluid for cleaned made in Russia by "LAVR" it's a good manufacturer of auto chemistry in our country.
Costs - 3-5$ per bottle.
 
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