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It's not that they discontinued it by their own volition, it's more than likely their manufacturer canceled their contract because they don't think they will get paid by Sears.

It's unknown at this time if SBD will continue the Craftsman cordless tools... Too bad Ryobi and CMan batteries are not interchangeable since the tools are made by the same company.
 
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It's not that they discontinued it by their own volition, it's more than likely their manufacturer canceled their contract because they don't think they will get paid by Sears.

It's unknown at this time if SBD will continue the Craftsman cordless tools... Too bad Ryobi and CMan batteries are not interchangeable since the tools are made by the same company.



That may be true, but for whatever the reason, if there is no product assortment, it gives consumers little reason to buy into the system. I have to replace my drill. I guess it’s cheaper to get a replacement C3 drill and wait to see what happens in a year or so before I start shelling out bucks to jump into a different brand.
 

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C3 and nextec. Are both dead. I've sold almost all of mine at this point. Too bad because it was a good platform, but Ryobi is better.
 
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C3 and nextec. Are both dead. I've sold almost all of mine at this point. Too bad because it was a good platform, but Ryobi is better.


Just left Sears. They have a couple drills on display. That’s it. On the shelves are a couple chargers, a few batteries, one saw, and a combo kit. In closeout is an angle grinder.

Time to send a letter to Santa. Perhaps I’ll go with DeWalt. I just can’t do Ryobi. The green is nauseating.
 
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Milwaukee seems to be the most popular, but I think it is also pretty pricey unless you find on sale.



Yes, which is why DeWalt is first on the list. Milwaukee is just too pricey. Plus, I do like that the DeWalt drills and drivers have LED’s at the front to light up what you’re working on, similar to the C3 tools.
 

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That may be true, but for whatever the reason, if there is no product assortment, it gives consumers little reason to buy into the system. I have to replace my drill. I guess it’s cheaper to get a replacement C3 drill and wait to see what happens in a year or so before I start shelling out bucks to jump into a different brand.
I'd wait too.
I think/hope the new owners will fix the situation.
 
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Yes, which is why DeWalt is first on the list. Milwaukee is just too pricey. Plus, I do like that the DeWalt drills and drivers have LED’s at the front to light up what you’re working on, similar to the C3 tools.

So does....everything...including Milwaukee. No ill will towards DeWalt but Milwaukee has the most well rounded battery platform, especially for electricians, plumbers and auto guys. Dewalt to me has the edge on carpenter's and builders.
 
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So does....everything...including Milwaukee. No ill will towards DeWalt but Milwaukee has the most well rounded battery platform, especially for electricians, plumbers and auto guys. Dewalt to me has the edge on carpenter's and builders.



Really? I didn’t see that when I went to HD yesterday. I’m a homeowner and not in the trades (though I’ve been told I should be). DeWalt has me covered for what I need, plus some of their stuff is now built in the US, which is nice.

Still, I’ll wait until next year to see what Stanley does with the line-up and use my hammer drill as a regular drill for the time being. Now, if the hammer drill goes out on me, I’m throwing in the towel.

On a related note, I just checked eBay and it’s nice to see that the C3 fan is selling for 195/200 and a cut out saw recently sold for 120. That would definitely ease the blow of changing platforms.
 
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I'd wait too.
I think/hope the new owners will fix the situation.
Man I hope so. They really are pretty good tools and a good system. I may have to grab an extra battery just in case. Even if they discontinue the line I figure I've got a good several years left in mine.

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I was heavily invested in the C3 line, 25+ tools at one point. Slowly started selling off the more valuable tools that I didn't use often, and once all of our locals Sears started closing up I sold the rest of the set to a buddy and went with Milwaukee. No regrets there!
 
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Just left Sears. An abomination to customer service. One guy in Tools helping only one customer while I wait for 20 min to get rung up until I finally tell him to call for another cashier. Stupid. As much as it would be sad, Sears just needs to go away. That wouldn’t happen at any other store, but it happens here all the time.

Anyway, I picked up a door trim kit and a picture frame clamp for 50% off and a brand new, C3 angle grinder for a whopping $4.47. It'll stay in the box until I see what happens with the C3 line, which means it'll most likely go on eBay. I don't give the line much hope, but you never know.
 

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Just left Sears. An abomination to customer service. One guy in Tools helping only one customer while I wait for 20 min to get rung up until I finally tell him to call for another cashier. Stupid. As much as it would be sad, Sears just needs to go away. That wouldn’t happen at any other store, but it happens here all the time.

Anyway, I picked up a door trim kit and a picture frame clamp for 50% off and a brand new, C3 angle grinder for a whopping $4.47. It'll stay in the box until I see what happens with the C3 line, which means it'll most likely go on eBay. I don't give the line much hope, but you never know.


Wow, I thought I scored when I paid $12 or so for mine. :thumbup:
 

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Just left Sears. An abomination to customer service. One guy in Tools helping only one customer while I wait for 20 min to get rung up until I finally tell him to call for another cashier. Stupid. As much as it would be sad, Sears just needs to go away. That wouldn’t happen at any other store, but it happens here all the time.

Anyway, I picked up a door trim kit and a picture frame clamp for 50% off and a brand new, C3 angle grinder for a whopping $4.47. It'll stay in the box until I see what happens with the C3 line, which means it'll most likely go on eBay. I don't give the line much hope, but you never know.

You got a killer deal, yet you still want Sears to "go away"! I've had good experiences and bad experiences with almost every business I've ever patronized. From restaurants to retail stores. We all have our stories, yet I've never wished a company, especially Sears that has given me many deals of a lifetime, to just go away". I don't understand the Sears hate on GJ? :headscrat
 

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I just sold my C3 wet/dry vacuum this last weekend for $50. All I have left battery wise are 2 compact XCP batteries and one wont charge past red and the other yellow. So why even bother with the vacuum as it barely has any run time with the batts I have. I wont spend $$$ to buy new ones so it had to go. The battery that charges to yellow was 6 months old. I took it to Sears sunday and it took me 29 minutes with the cashier to exchange it because he had no idea what he was doing and had to wait for someone who did to show him how. When he asked the other guy for help he was with people and wouldn't take the time to come over and help. I only have 2 of the heavy duty drill/driver as bare tools and the C3 Bluetooth radio left. Both ill prob sell off soon too.

Sears is a nightmare by me. I once bought a compact XCP battery on sale, got home opened it up and it had a plain lithium ion one inside. I had a plain lithium ion one die in the warranty period and literally had to argue with the store manager to replace it. They wanted me to send it in instead of going thru the local Sears because it was from an impact driver kit and I didn't buy it by itself. Sad how far Sears has fallen but its time for it to die and go away. Ive switched to Milwaukee and Ryobi and haven't looked back.
 
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You got a killer deal, yet you still want Sears to "go away"! I've had good experiences and bad experiences with almost every business I've ever patronized. From restaurants to retail stores. We all have our stories, yet I've never wished a company, especially Sears that has given me many deals of a lifetime, to just go away". I don't understand the Sears hate on GJ? :headscrat


I got a killer deal because they have effectively killed off a tool system that I've put a lot of money into and I was buying a left over scrap. The tool department at my store looks emaciated, so much so that you’d think they were shutting down. Sears will never bring itself back from its death bed unless it fixes its customer service issues. I've been to three different Sears stores in my area and they they all suffer from the same poor service issues. I experience it just about every time. It’s something very wrong in the company’s DNA. We’re not back in 1972 and there is little tolerance for that kind of service today. It’s just horrible. As for the deal, my time is worth more than the money I saved. I’ve never had to wait 20 minutes to pay for an item at Home Depot or Lowe’s. I’ve never had to walk around Home Depot or Lowe’s looking for a cashier. If my family hadn’t been out with friends, I would have walked out after five minutes.

Sears is a part of my family history. I have many happy memories of going to Sears with my folks, especially my dad. I’d prefer that they pull through, but it appears that they have no desire to change their ways. The service issues have persisted for years. Unfortunately, they exist today only as a relic from another era.
 

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Sears has not had a profitable quarter in 10 years. They have borrowed and sold off assets ( Craftsman) to stay afloat. They have closed countless Sears and K Marts. I heard a pretty sharp analyst say that 2018 was the end of the line. Their stock is at around 6 bucks a share. I would not buy anything that I would expect any support on. I have no idea what will happen to their assets when they close. I suspect they will be sold to companies that specialize in selling off assets of failed businesses.





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One guy in Tools helping only one customer while I wait for 20 min to get rung up until I finally tell him to call for another cashier.

Yep, happens at other stores all the time, rare at Sears though. Your local Sears may just be poorly managed, or maybe they can't get good employees. Telling him to call for another cashier is probably pointless and makes it worse, a cashier likely does not have the authority to manage staffing.

For future reference, you can check out at any register, so you could have gone to a register without a line.
 
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They wanted me to send it in instead of going thru the local Sears because it was from an impact driver kit and I didn't buy it by itself.

Yes, that is typical for most stores now, they want the manufacturer to honor the warranty and the store will not. There have been a lot of complaints about HD and Lowes telling customers to deal with the manufacturer, particularly for battery issues.
 

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I heard a pretty sharp analyst say that 2018 was the end of the line.

Is this analyst also one of the "sharp analysts" that have been forecasting the end of Sears every year for the last several decades?

My informed opinion is that Sears will outlast us all. They are changing their business model to keep up with the changing market, and that may annoy some who prefer more traditional stores and customer service. Many have talked about the retail stores, but that is a tiny part of Sears business - it's the online and store pickup orders that are driving their growth, just as they started out in the mail order business.
 

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I don't understand the 'Get rid of all of my C3 tools' POV.
I have most everything, use them all the time, and with the availability and price of the generic lithium ion batteries, see no reason to migrate to another system.
 
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Yep, happens at other stores all the time, rare at Sears though. Your local Sears may just be poorly managed, or maybe they can't get good employees. Telling him to call for another cashier is probably pointless and makes it worse, a cashier likely does not have the authority to manage staffing.

For future reference, you can check out at any register, so you could have gone to a register without a line.



Actually, after I told him to call for another cashier, he got on the PA and called for assistance. Two minutes later a cashier showed up and took care of me. All he needed to do was look around and see that people were waiting in line and call for assistance. This happens in other stores all the time. Calling for assistance is not managing staffing.
 

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I don't understand the 'Get rid of all of my C3 tools' POV.
I have most everything, use them all the time, and with the availability and price of the generic lithium ion batteries, see no reason to migrate to another system.


Me neither. I have purchased more C3 stuff this year alone than previous years and all of it has served me well. I'm waiting for a good deal on the hammer drill then I'll be buying that one, too.
 

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I'm exclusive Craftsman C3, have lots of the tools. Some of the Ni-Cad batteries originally bought in 2006 are still holding a pretty good charge.

Happy with them. I'm not a pro, just a hobbyist with a race car.

When I bought the race car in 2005 and started my collection of C3 tools and batteries in 2006, the C3 seemed to be the well priced and the line had a good selection of tools. In the meantime, another brand or series might have jumped ahead of C3, but with my investment in them I don't see any reason to try something else.

Wife likes the hedge trimmer. Biggest disappointment, probably the leaf blower.

One of the biggest things I like is the fact that I have only ONE battery type to worry about. I literally can have only one decent battery, one multi-chemistry charger, and use all my tools. Li-Ion batteries charge quickly.
 
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I'm exclusive Craftsman C3, have lots of the tools....Wife likes the hedge trimmer...

I also have a bunch of C3 Craftsman tools, and the hedge trimmer is one of my favorites! It was the second C3 tool I purchased after buying my C3 drill that also came with the C3 radio.

I bought the hedge trimmer because my wife cut the power cord off of the electric trimmer we had! After that, I bought the Craftsman C3 trimmer. That, and the fact that I wanted a portable trimmer so that we could take it, and use it, anywhere on the property.

With an XCP C3 battery on it, it will run for over an hour and cut thru stuff that the electric one never could. I even use it for pruning small branches on trees and our honeysuckle on the trellis near our back door.

I agree with the posters who asked why get rid of your functioning C3 tools when you can still buy the batteries from Sears and you can also get the generic ones too.

As long as all of my C3 tools still work I'm not going to replace them until they totally **** out. To replace them now, with the exact same tools from a different manufacture, when my tools still work, is like throwing money out the window.

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Are they any good?
As good as C3's?
I have one, it appears the same as the full size non extended lithium battery.
Seems to last about as long, even on high draw items like the leaf blower and sawzall.
I think it was $30, has a button and 4-5 lights for battery life left.
Seems hard to go wrong.
 

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Reason I got rid of them was the lithium-ion batteries I had were all going bad. Got tired of dealing with sears. it also seems like the XCP batteries are overpriced for what they are. You can get a 2 pack of the Ryobi p108 4Ah for $99, and $79 on sale at times. Sears doesn’t offer deals like that.
 

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Is this analyst also one of the "sharp analysts" that have been forecasting the end of Sears every year for the last several decades?

My informed opinion is that Sears will outlast us all. They are changing their business model to keep up with the changing market, and that may annoy some who prefer more traditional stores and customer service. Many have talked about the retail stores, but that is a tiny part of Sears business - it's the online and store pickup orders that are driving their growth, just as they started out in the mail order business.
It has gotten so bad and morale is so low that crooked customers pick an expensive kitchen appliance off the shelf, like a $350 Kitchen Aid mixer and walk it over to the service desk for a refund, claiming they lost their receipt, AND THEY GET IT. The help sees this and don't even care. There have been recent long lists of closings of Sears and KMart stores. Every few months there are more closings. Anybody that thinks that their experience with a bad store is unique and other stores are better is delusional. Many of their suppliers will no longer deal with them. After many years they no longer have a contract with Kitchen Aid/ Whirlpool. Just what is this great new business model that is going to save them? When you haven't turned a profit in 10 years, you don't need a new business model, you need a miracle. If they close many more stores they will be gone. A&P and Radio Shack were hundred year old businesses and they are gone. 2018 is the year they go under. I would really like to hear how Sears is going to pull off this miracle. Is it just basd on the idea that they have survived this long so they will be around forever? They are living on borrowed money and can't pay it back. Their stock is worthless.HD stock is around $130 and Sears is around $6. You don't have to be a financial genius to see the obvious. They have run out of things to sell for cash. The Craftsman sale was a big break and forestalled the enevitable. To raise money the help is bullied to push Sears credit cards and if the don't sell some, they are gone.

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I have one, it appears the same as the full size non extended lithium battery.
Seems to last about as long, even on high draw items like the leaf blower and sawzall.
I think it was $30, has a button and 4-5 lights for battery life left.
Seems hard to go wrong.
Good to know :rocker:
Reason I got rid of them was the lithium-ion batteries I had were all going bad. Got tired of dealing with sears. it also seems like the XCP batteries are overpriced for what they are. You can get a 2 pack of the Ryobi p108 4Ah for $99, and $79 on sale at times. Sears doesn’t offer deals like that.
look on eBay.
I get brand new ones cheaper than that
 
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I also have a bunch of C3 Craftsman tools, and the hedge trimmer is one of my favorites! It was the second C3 tool I purchased after buying my C3 drill that also came with the C3 radio.

I bought the hedge trimmer because my wife cut the power cord off of the electric trimmer we had! After that, I bought the Craftsman C3 trimmer. That, and the fact that I wanted a portable trimmer so that we could take it, and use it, anywhere on the property.

With an XCP C3 battery on it, it will run for over an hour and cut thru stuff that the electric one never could. I even use it for pruning small branches on trees and our honeysuckle on the trellis near our back door.

I agree with the posters who asked why get rid of your functioning C3 tools when you can still buy the batteries from Sears and you can also get the generic ones too.

As long as all of my C3 tools still work I'm not going to replace them until they totally **** out. To replace them now, with the exact same tools from a different manufacture, when my tools still work, is like throwing money out the window.

Jim

For the record, the hedge trimmer truly is awesome. It really does cut through branches it shouldn't. Great tool.

Anyway... I hear everything thing you guys are saying, believe me, but my concern is over the options available for a possibly (and probably) dead-end product line. If I wanted to get a miter saw, a 6.5" circular saw, a band saw, a mister (neat Ryobi gadget), a small pancake air compressor - anything beyond the basics that I have right now, I can forget it. I either have to resort to ebay for a few of the items or mostly just go without. It's not that my current tools don't work (other than my drill with the shot variable speed), it's that any future options don't exist. What I have is pretty much what I have and even if I picked up the two or three additional tools on ebay, that's really just about the end. If I want any new, cool stuff, I'm out of luck. When I bought into the C3 product line, I bought into what I thought was an expanding line. Unfortunately, it was a shrinking line. As much as I like the tools I have, I'd like to know that go to the store and be able to get something new once in awhile.

As for tossing money away, I could sell my current tools and that would get me much of the way into another product (other than Ryobi - can't stand the green). A couple of the C3 tools I have are rare and are fetching pretty good prices right now. Combo kits by other manufactures are priced nicely.

In the end, I'll probably shell out 80 bucks and get a C3 heavy duty drill to replace my defective one and wait awhile to see what SBD does with the line. We really should know in the next couple of years. For the time being, what I have will have to do.
 

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In the end, I'll probably shell out 80 bucks and get a C3 heavy duty drill to replace my defective one and wait awhile to see what SBD does with the line. We really should know in the next couple of years. For the time being, what I have will have to do.
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