Tarbellb- I knew of Star labs back when they were just Bull Tear, Back when I built the 5x5, I contacted a number of table manufacturers, and product manufacturers, I wanted a Bull Tear Gantry but it alone would have cost more than my entire table, I contacted them when I was getting table number two because I already knew the quality was there, Matt gave me a good deal on the 5x10, delivered. and the electronics are basically the same as what I have on my 5x5 so that was a no brainer (CandCNC) when I initially contacted manufacturers back in 2014, I got RFQs from 2 out of 10 or so... of those one has a very poor name these days... the other was Star Labs at the time out of my reach, But Precision Plasma was recommended and CandCNC by some others so I contacted PPLLC and Ron replied to me within 2 hours on a Saturday, I then contacted CandCNC and Tom Replied to me on a Saturday within an hour... Plans were hatched and products ordered as soon as I was able, 2 DAYS later I had my PPLLC Gantry and 4 weeks later I had my CandCNC Electronics, during that time frame I built the table and when the electronics arrived I installed them and fired it up following the instructions and cut my first parts. I gave up on a great many of the manufacturers who never even got back to me.... I entertained Burntables brand at that point and contacted them and talked to a salesman and so forth then ultimately built my own... for FAR less... My 5x5 all up and running with Plasma, Router, Scribe, Scanner, was around $7k... I already had a plasma... But had to modify it a smidge to work with the table then I upgraded to a Hypertherm PM65 initially I was using my PM30...