Milwaukee made in China?

[jonesg]

Where are these jobs today?

The America worker needs to become more militant otherwise they're going to get **** on forever.

Do you think there might be a connection between those 2 sentences.?

 

[Fretters]

Re: Milwaukee make in China?

I watched a documentary on youtube about the leader of the miners union in the uk, scargill.
He was a very militant communist and accelerated the demise of the mines.

He was an ******** who was bent as a nine bob note, is a more precise way of putting it. That bloke was an embarrassment to our town, & a national disgrace.

 

[jonesg]

I was just being real, since technically, the only difference between illegal and legal is the stroke of a pen.



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Hahaha, you guys.
The only difference between commie China and USA is a scrap of paper. The constitution.

Reductio absurdum.?

 

[jonesg]

Re: Milwaukee make in China?

He was an ******** who was bent as a nine bob note, is a more precise way of putting it. That bloke was an embarrassment to our town, & a national disgrace.

Hilarious but what do you really think, where is he today? Dead or just daft.?
I was born in Manchester, lancs lad.
Man City forever. Moved to usa as a teen.
Retired corp president after 30 yrs running businesses.

 

[Fretters]

No idea whether he's still alive or popped his clogs.

Didn't realise you were a Mancunian. A Tyke, (Barnsley lad), here.

 

[dnschmidt]

Explain how preventing your employees from getting maimed is bad (OSHA).
Explain how enabling humans to breath clean air and drink clean water is bad (The Environmental Protection Agency).

Are you people crazy??

25 years ago I couldn't go to Los Angeles without choking and gasping for air. Now it's fine. All due to the EPA. Did you ever see the pollution in China where people as a matter of routine wear face masks?

Sometimes I can't believe the insane **** that people write. Germany has FAR, FAR tougher workplace safety and environmental laws than America did or will ever have. Yet they thrive.

 

[jonesg]

Explain how preventing your employees from getting maimed is bad (OSHA).
Explain how enabling humans to breath clean air and drink clean water is bad (The Environmental Protection Agency).

Are you people crazy??

25 years ago I couldn't go to Los Angeles without choking and gasping for air. Now it's fine. All due to the EPA. Did you ever see the pollution in China where people as a matter of routine wear face masks?

Sometimes I can't believe the insane **** that people write. Germany has FAR, FAR tougher workplace safety and environmental laws than America did or will ever have. Yet they thrive.

Straw man argument, I said nothing about safety rules.

EPA long overstepped it's mandate, see the roadside ditches classified as navigable waterways and farm holding ponds, all to increase their power.
The throttling of ability to become energy independent.
The election is over and the socialist worldview defeated.

 

[zendriver]

Hahaha, you guys.
The only difference between commie China and USA is a scrap of paper. The constitution.

Not sure of what your point is, but mine was that everyone that showed up at Ellis Island, was an "illegal alien", until someone signed a document saying otherwise.

IMO, the truth is people really don't want any foreigners at all any more, they just don't have the guts to say so.

Oh, people from Norway are OK, provided they are highly educated, which is just patently absurd, on so many levels, as if we have shortage of educated people.

Certainly there is no shortage of less skilled workers, judging by the number of "now hiring" signs., for CNAs at nursing homes, where - believe it or not, people can't even wipe their own asses.

 

[zendriver]

EPA long overstepped it's mandate, see the roadside ditches classified as navigable waterways and farm holding ponds, all to increase their power.
The throttling of ability to become energy independent.
The election is over and the socialist worldview defeated.

IMO, the problem is farmers are ok with EPA regulations - as long as they apply to somebody else.

No one has the right to tell them what to do with their manure. If their **** and fertilizer runoff, ends up in the Gulf of Mexico, then it's tough ****.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-what-to-do-about-it/?utm_term=.624c810b7011

Don't understand your point at all, about the EPA and energy independence.

They are all over wind, solar power, etc. They are not against oil drilling, but have strict environmental regulations addressing possible issues, as they should.

 

[kctyphoon]

Here we go again. I was at Albeni Falls building supply, a local lumber and hardware store in my area. I was looking for some metal drill bits. Found some by Milwaukee that were made in America. I bought all of them. When I go to home depot, I look for American made products all the time. My logic is solid as well. NEXT!

Your logic is rock solid, yes.. "I want to support American jobs as much as I can, so instead of buying a product from an AMERICAN company that chose to outsource the manufacturing of THAT particular product, I instead said screw them, and the AMERICAN WORKERS they have left - and bought a similar product made in Germany from a German company. That oughta help the American workers"..

Dewalt, which is an American company, and is bringing back manufacturing of more and more of their cordless tools to the states, would have been a better choice to support your argument. Explain, in detail, how buying Fein helped the American workforce more than it would have if you had bought Dewalt instead.. Tell us how you plan to return more manufacturing to the USA by NOT buying and supporting products from a company that is actually doing just that.. go...

Yes, your logic as you said is "Rock Solid".

For the record, as far as I'm concerned, people can buy whatever they want. It's their money, and when they come asking me for cash is the day I can tell them how it should be spent. That said, don't come in here spewing the "I support America, and you don't", stuff - with a story like that as evidence..

 

[Musicinabottle]

Re: Milwaukee make in China?

Of cause.... you sounded like a president, I know of. Now you just evolved to be a China COO troll ? I am pretty sure you can look up the history what happened in the 80s.

Not sure why images are so popular ... but yea I agree with this.

Actually, you're the troll. Talk about funny?

 

[American Locomotive]

Straw man argument, I said nothing about safety rules.

EPA long overstepped it's mandate, see the roadside ditches classified as navigable waterways and farm holding ponds, all to increase their power.
The throttling of ability to become energy independent.
The election is over and the socialist worldview defeated.

Even seemingly innocuous things like building a large holding pond on your farm can have drastic, and unintended consequences. When you impound your farm run-off water like that - you're taking water that you may not have rights to. You're taking water that would have naturally infiltrated into an aquifer. You're taking water that would may have otherwise flowed into a stream. A farmer's impounding of water in a pond may deplete someone else's water resources. Their well might run dry, or the stream they use to irrigate their fields may no longer flow enough - just because some guy upstream decided he wanted to hold millions of gallons of water in a man-made pond. Not to mention all the environmental concerns of depleting ecosystems of water.

People need to think outside of the "box" they live in. Your decision to build a huge storage pond doesn't just impact you. Your decision to dump nasty stuff on the ground doesn't just impact you. Your decision to pollute the air just doesn't impact you. That's why there are people inside the EPA way smarter than you or I making these sort of policy decisions. These things are immensely complicated. I even have a couple of years of formal education in water resource management, and that amounts to knowing "water is wet" compared to what the people inside the EPA know.

The EPA isn't "anti-business". Water, water resources, and water rights are very complicated, and things conducive to operating a business "cheaply" and "efficiently" are not good for water quality, water resources and water rights. There are tens of thousands of case studies of companies doing something bad and poisoning some town's drinking water, or destroying some protected wetlands, or etc...

Even without the EPA, manufacturing is not coming back to the U.S. in a way that actually will employ lots of labor. It's going to automated equipment and robots. I say this as someone who currently works in the manufacturing industry, and we're employing more and more automation, and getting rid of people. Robots cost most up front, but they don't need health insurance, don't go on vacation, make less mistakes, and can work with the lights turned off in the factory.

 

[kctyphoon]

Never said they should give up their signing bonus. What I said was with their lost wages, the signing bonus was mute.

You talk about fact and yet I see a lot of BS by being brainwashed by union folks like yourself. Reality is: there is a reason union membership is in the tanks, people don't want them. And membership is probably continue to drop as younger people aren't entering union.....http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/316310-union-membership-hits-new-low

Want to read about the strike, go ahead (sorry I don't keep the contract term paperwork after 17 years): http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/03/nyregion/rejecting-10-raise-pratt-workers-vote-to-strike.html

With that said, you work on your side of the tracks and I will work on mine.

You completely missed several of the points I made, and never once did I mention the signing bonus. Maybe you should re-read my post. Their lost wages is a sacrifice the entire group makes to benefit the group as a whole in the future. You keep thinking short term, and that's not what contract negotiations are about. Not everyone comes out ahead, that's not the point.

The head of your successful multi million dollar company that you've worked at for 10+ years walks in one day and says, "our stock price is not where we feel it needs to be, so as a result we are implementing a 20% pay cut across all job titles to help raise our stock price. Anyone that feels this is unacceptable can make today their last day at work".. tell me, after investing 10 years of your life helping to make that company what it is, would you wish there was a work contract, or a group that would fight in court to put a stop to that, or would you smile and say "oh well, I guess I'll just move my family out of the house and into a condo cause after all, that seems perfectly fair to me ??

 

[Musicinabottle]

Your logic is rock solid, yes.. "I want to support American jobs as much as I can, so instead of buying a product from an AMERICAN company that chose to outsource the manufacturing of THAT particular product, I instead said screw them, and the AMERICAN WORKERS they have left - and bought a similar product made in Germany from a German company. That oughta help the American workers"..

Dewalt, which is an American company, and is bringing back manufacturing of more and more of their cordless tools to the states, would have been a better choice to support your argument. Explain, in detail, how buying Fein helped the American workforce more than it would have if you had bought Dewalt instead.. Tell us how you plan to return more manufacturing to the USA by NOT buying and supporting products from a company that is actually doing just that.. go...

Yes, your logic as you said is "Rock Solid".

For the record, as far as I'm concerned, people can buy whatever they want. It's their money, and when they come asking me for cash is the day I can tell them how it should be spent. That said, don't come in here spewing the "I support America, and you don't", stuff - with a story like that as evidence..

Read my post again. You missed it. If you still can't figure it out, I'll hold your hand and explain it again, with a coloring book and some crayons. I'm kidding you now, kind of......

 

[Musicinabottle]

Straw man argument, I said nothing about safety rules.

EPA long overstepped it's mandate, see the roadside ditches classified as navigable waterways and farm holding ponds, all to increase their power.
The throttling of ability to become energy independent.
The election is over and the socialist worldview defeated.

Let's keep politics out of the discussion.

Come on out to my place, and walk down the creek I live on, to the dairy 1/4 mile down the way, and you can still see the effects of their holding pond overflowing into our creek, and how it has destroyed it with both silt and nitrates. Myself, I welcome these EPA watchdogs, because industry and some farmers sure as hell don't care. Luckily for me, I live upstream.

 

[dogdog]

Re: Milwaukee make in China?

Actually, you're the troll. Talk about funny?

And the sound logic to that? definitely not some self-delusional evolution I hope.

 

[Musicinabottle]

Re: Milwaukee make in China?

And the sound logic to that? definitely not some self-delusional evolution I hope.

I see your continued trolling......and ignore.

 

[dogdog]

Re: Milwaukee make in China?

I see your continued trolling......and ignore.

Alright Dawg, don't let the tooth hurt too much, keep on evolving.

 

[kctyphoon]

Re: Milwaukee make in China?

I see your continued trolling......and ignore.

You are hopeless..

 

[Musicinabottle]

Re: Milwaukee make in China?

You are hopeless..

Actually not. I support America and I love my kids!

 

[Musicinabottle]

Re: Milwaukee make in China?

Alright Dawg, don't let the tooth hurt too much, keep on evolving.

If you aren't evolving, you aren't growing, educating yourself or keeping up.

Since you're so against evolvement, I bet you likely still dress and live like this. Evolution. Bad!

 

[dogdog]

Re: Milwaukee make in China?

If you aren't evolving, you aren't growing, educating yourself or keeping up.

I'm not the same person I was 30 years ago. Are you?

again.... freudian slip ?

I thought you are ignoring me, did you just evolved to not ignoring me again? See, your actions contracting your logic/post.

 

[reader2580]

Even without the EPA, manufacturing is not coming back to the U.S. in a way that actually will employ lots of labor. It's going to automated equipment and robots. I say this as someone who currently works in the manufacturing industry, and we're employing more and more automation, and getting rid of people. Robots cost most up front, but they don't need health insurance, don't go on vacation, make less mistakes, and can work with the lights turned off in the factory.

How many of those robots are going to buy the product they are producing? How many of the laid off workers are going to buy the product without any money? Automation is great for producing a better product. It is not so good for workers.

 

[Musicinabottle]

Re: Milwaukee make in China?

again.... freudian slip ?

I saw a great opportunity for a jab at the ignorance! ......ZING!!!!

 

[reader2580]

My employer had a company install new office furniture at two different locations. The company has both union and non-union labor. The cost for union labor was double the cost of the non-union labor.

The one building is owned by a union pension fund so my employer is required to use union labor in that building. The other building is owned by my employer so non-union labor was used there. I didn't see any difference in the quality of work between the two buildings.

 

[Musicinabottle]

How many of those robots are going to buy the product they are producing? How many of the laid off workers are going to buy the product without any money? Automation is great for producing a better product. It is not so good for workers.

Good point. Eventually it bites you in the ***.

 

[American Locomotive]

How many of those robots are going to buy the product they are producing? How many of the laid off workers are going to buy the product without any money? Automation is great for producing a better product. It is not so good for workers.

The automation of almost all manufacturing jobs is inevitable. It's faster, cheaper, more reliable and the robots sue you less when they get hurt on the job. The trades (plumbing, electrical, etc..) are going to be around for for the foreseeable future, but traditional assembly line manufacturing jobs are not.

Those laid off manufacturing workers will either have to adapt or starve. Learn a trade, learn how to program or even go to school and learn how to fix and operate the robots that took their job.

 

[turnthewrench 2.0]

Good point. Eventually it bites you in the ***.

That was the argument during the British Industrial Revolution... we have smartphones to post in a tool forum now.

It gets boring, does it not?

 

[zendriver]

More American jobs have been eliminated by automation, than any off-shoring.

Maybe that will be the saving grace, for "reshoring". We can again feel good about "Made in USA", even if most everything is made by robots, unless of course, they decide to use low paid humans, which will still make us feel good.

But, if we have to pay way more, so an American will have a good living, that will make us feel very bad, maybe shopping on craigslist more

 

[dogdog]

Re: Milwaukee make in China?

Here is the generic thing I see... "I said what I do, I just don't do what I said."
Society/people/person can backward evolve sometimes....and self-delusion is real...

I am just saying you can jab and hit nothing and not sure about this self zing...

 

[Musicinabottle]

I was at home depot this morning and noticed that you CAN actually buy Dewalt cordless tools (a few models anyways) that are made in America. I was considering buying a drill, but decided against it, on account of the fact that I really don't encounter too many situations where I couldn't just string out a cord. They are more expensive, but I applaud that they do give a person the choice. I should have checked to see if they offer American built regular corded tools. If they do, I might do some tool updating because some of my gear is getting a bit antiquated and worn. I recently needed a part for my Milwaukee hole hawg and figured I was going to need to buy a Chinese made replacement, but the guy at the repair shop gave me a complete broke down Hawg with the part I needed on it for free. I have a parts rig for that, and my Makita table saw. Score!

 

[maico]

Video of Chinese clone and faker merchants getting their comeuppance at a German tool trade fair.
Hazet, Wiha, Makita, Witte etc. are all faked.There is a lot of fake Hazet in Eastern Europe and North America.

https://www.hazet.de/de/home/service/pneumatikmaschinen/plagiate/

 

[78C-10]

So, you'd rather buy from a Communist country than Taiwan. That's interesting.

No, just saying from what I've read is that most quality tools that come from overseas come from China or Japan, that is all. I've read where Taiwan doesn't follow the strict designs given to them. I do not know any of this for a fact, just going by what I have read. I'm sorry to have ruffled feathers or stepped on anyone's toes.

Thank you

 

[kctyphoon]

Re: Milwaukee make in China?

Actually not. I support America by buying tools made in Germany, from a German company - and I love my kids so I make sure to keep as many American jobs here as a can! My logic is rock solid!

There, I fixed it for you.. you were right, seems perfectly logical now.

 

[dogdog]

Re: Milwaukee make in China?

There, I fixed it for you.. you were right, seems perfectly logical now.

LOL.... you are going to make him evolve again....to be more logically fit... the delusion.

 

[dogdog]

Video of Chinese clone and faker merchants getting their comeuppance at a German tool trade fair.
Hazet, Wiha, Makita, Witte etc. are all faked.There is a lot of fake Hazet in Eastern Europe and North America.

https://www.hazet.de/de/home/service/pneumatikmaschinen/plagiate/

This happens every year, nothing new...... last year there was a thread about the SEMA or some trade shows as well.... but I don't think this is what this particular thread was about though. BTW that video kept screaming at me the whole time I was watching it.

 

[dogdog]

Re: Milwaukee make in China?

If you aren't evolving, you aren't growing, educating yourself or keeping up.

Since you're so against evolvement, I bet you likely still dress and live like this. Evolution. Bad!

so Goovy....

There is a differences between evolving and being brain washed by some internet radio that spins his own facts........

 

[kythri]

No, just saying from what I've read is that most quality tools that come from overseas come from China or Japan, that is all. I've read where Taiwan doesn't follow the strict designs given to them. I do not know any of this for a fact, just going by what I have read. I'm sorry to have ruffled feathers or stepped on anyone's toes.

Thank you

Where have you read that, out of curiosity?

It's generally accepted that Taiwanese production is preferable to Chinese production, and if either of them are playing catch-up to the other, it's China to Taiwan, not the other way around.

 

[Musicinabottle]

Re: Milwaukee make in China?

There, I fixed it for you.. you were right, seems perfectly logical now.

Nice string together of out of context words. You should work for Fox. Don't blame me if you can't understand my meaning. It's cut and dry. Like I said, if you can't understand, if you actually don't see it... I'll break out the crayons and coloring book. It could be really fun! Let me know! I'll invite the puppets on stage.

 

[Musicinabottle]

Re: Milwaukee make in China?

so Goovy....

There is a differences between evolving and being brain washed by some internet radio that spins his own facts........

I just had to quote you before you remodeled that bat **** crazy post. Whatever that was supposed to mean.