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I have a bigger drill and stand out in the shed as well now, with the big old round case medium duty drill its a 3/8" but I bought a 1/2" drill for it. Also bought an old Swiss made Wolf jigsaw.
Missed a really nice Sapphire circular saw, was real cheap and in nice order but it sold while I was reading the add.
I have a proper pillar drill in the garage but its not exactly portable and these drill stands definitely are.
 
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I have a bigger drill and stand out in the shed as well now, with the big old round case medium duty drill its a 3/8" but I bought a 1/2" drill for it. Also bought an old Swiss made Wolf jigsaw.
Missed a really nice Sapphire circular saw, was real cheap and in nice order but it sold while I was reading the add.
I have a proper pillar drill in the garage but its not exactly portable and these drill stands definitely are.

It is never possible to have too many drills!
I have been trying to take a photo of my jigsaws tonight with no success in the light. One I inherited and another exactly the same that I got of ebay for £6 or there about. I never noticed where they were made - must check.
I would love to have a decent pillar drill for big work. I use the big wolf with a magnetic stand at the moment and hope at some point to get my dad's old stand operational again.
The saw must have been a good deal if it sold so quickly!

I am about to post some more drills below - thanks for the comment
 
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That Wolf drill must be the best condition still in existence...any date codes on the instructions ?
 
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That was a fantastic price - and it is a great saw. I paid about 3 times that for the one I have and there is no box :-(
 
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That Wolf drill must be the best condition still in existence...any date codes on the instructions ?

I don't know about the date - but I will have a look - hopefully within the next day or two. I don't think I will ever use it so it will remain in this condition for a while yet!!
 

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Local collection only sale, I wasn't the only bidder but it was still very cheap, from what I have seen a proper box is rare, it is a great saw, I also now have the 7 1/4" version, in almost as good as condition and with the original but very tatty cardboard box, was even cheaper. Blades are quite hard to find though for the 9" as its 5/8" bore, I have sourced a few with reduction bushes, there are some fine tooth blades available old stock but rip blades seem hard to find.
I have also got this week a nice 5/16" Safety Master drill, the aluminium bodied but double insulated version of the Cub, in original box. For a drill that was a home use line it is actually quite nice, much nicer than the equivalent 1960's Black and Decker.
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As seen in the window of a long established, but now closing down local hardware store
 

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Can't be many Wolf shop signs about, should get that nickjj if you can, if its up for grabs. The more important question is if they have any NOS Wolf tools in the shop.
 

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Sign is stuck to the window in afraid.

Some very faded tools in the window, pack of 30 plus year old chisels (made in Japan) in one corner.

I'll go in next week and see what's there.
 
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That saw was another great find - I don't have a 7"
I like the drill too! I haven't gone that old in my collection but if I had seen that one I couldn't have resisted it
 

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That saw was another great find - I don't have a 7"
I like the drill too! I haven't gone that old in my collection but if I had seen that one I couldn't have resisted it

It was cheap that drill, £17.50 is what I paid, but It was because it still had the box that I bought it, those old small metal cased drills are usually about £5 at the local carboot sales, but condition varies greatly and most are B&D.
 
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Another gem which sadly does not belong to me!

I snapped this old polisher in the garage beside my holiday accommodation when I attended the 50th Great Dorset Steam Fair a couple of weeks ago.

Wolf grinder/polisher by K Garrett, on Flickr

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The owner switched it on while I was there and it ran silky smooth!
I am guessing that it is from the 1960s???
 
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I thought that even if this one doesn't run - and I think it will. It will be good for spares for another as most of it is in tact!
 
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Wolf did make a mistake they should have kept up the quality and they could possibly still be around!
AFAIK Wolf ceased being family controlled at the end of 1981 (confirmed by Companies House search) when they merged with another famous London firm, Kango. I guess it might have been on the retirement of Geoffrey Wolf, but I haven't done much research on that yet.

Kango was part of a larger group, the Dobson Park Group and on the face of it it was a good match with relatively little product overlap. Amongst other things Dobson Park (a mining industry supplier) at the time owned Dowty, who were a major supplier of hydraulic roof props for the UK's National Coal Board. As you are no doubt aware the 1980s were a period of industrial and economic turmoil in the UK during which time we saw major closures in the UK coal mining industry (something like 90% of deep mine capacity went in less than 6 years) together with major closures in the manufacturing sector. At the same time Sterling fluctuated wildly - never a good thing for manufacturers wishing to export. For a firm like Wolf, and later Kango-Wolf, it can't have been a good time, especially as the City of London seemed remarkably reluctant to invest in whole swathes of our indiginous manufacturing sector. Even so they did continue to turn out some pretty good tools, but I suspect that K-W weren't big enough to afford the development of parts of their range which they'd been buying in (belt sanders, planers and later jigsaws and cordless drill/drivers). Wolf had never developed their own planers and gave-up on making their own belt sanders in the mid- to late-1960s, preferring to buy-in those products from Makita instead. When the Grinderette was delayed into production they bought-in a Makita grinder to cover the gap in the range until they could get the in-house product onto the market. When they finally introduced 43mm collar drill attachments (jigsaw, circular saw, right angle adaptor, grinding wheel, etc) the attachments were all sourced from Makita in Japan. They even abandoned the Wolf jigsaw in favour of a bought-in product from Perles in the mid- to late-1970s, possibly because their in-house product lacked a tilting base and orbital motion facility (which would have necessitated a full redesign).

After the merger with Kango most of these bought-in products continued for a few years but eventually Kango-Wolf formed a new relationship with Holz-Her in Germany and began to source jigsaws, planers, belt sanders and cordless drill/drivers from them instead. A possible factor in that decision was the ever increasing presence of Makita in the UK during in the 1980s, culminating in Makita opening a new factory in Telford in 1991. With the sale of Stanley Power Tools to Bosch in 1981 Bosch came into the UK market much more strongly. Further inroads were also being made in the UK market at that time by Elu, but other firms such as Hitachi, Ryobi, AEG, etc also became more prominent as well. I think the loss of the NCB contracts throughout the 1980s must also have hit Dobson Park quite badly and they eventually sold out their power tool division to Atlas-Copco of Sweden in 1993. A-C were on an acquisition trail at the time which saw them take-over AEG of Winnenden (Germany) and with AEG came Milwaukee, some of whose tools were actually AEG designed and made.

Duplication in the ranges (together with some products being bought-in from rival Holz-Her) meant that something had to go and unfortunately as many of the in-house manufactured Wolf designs were older and were presumably coming due for replacement or revamping, it meant those. In addition with Germany being a more stable manufacturing environment at the time (currency stability being all for an exporter) much of the Wolf range together with the lighter Kangos were simply replaced wholesale by "Atlas-Copco" tools (rebadged AEGs). In a few cases AEG tools were made in yellow and branded "Kango" (e.g. the 200 and 240 SDS drills). The only things then remaining at Peterborough by that stage were the Kango 430 and 750/760 medium hammer drills, the 900 and 950 breakers and the 2500 heavy (road) breaker - so they moved production of them to Germany and shut Peterborough down. I believe that some of the engineering staff transferred to Germany as well
Edit: More research into the company papers appears to point to the designs, tooling, equipment and business being sold to A-C, but the premises remaining with Dobson Park. This would have given A-C a range where all of the ex-Wolf designs were duplicated by existing (and often newer) AEG products. For example by 1993 the mk.4 Sapphire-type pistol grip drill family was one on the newest product ranges at 12 years of age, the 7in and 9in circular saws, orbital sander and the "gut buster" drills (which appeared in the early-1970s) were 22 or so years old as were the D-handle drills which appeared around 1971. The grinders I'm less certain about, but I reckon that they also appeared in the mid-1970s. Such old designs are not trend setters in the market and the tooling would possibly also be approaching the end of its life. Similarly on the Kango side of the business only the 430, 750, 2500 and the wall saw were up too date products - the big 900/950 breakers that the firm was famed for were basically mid-1960s designs

So I think the demise of Wolf and later Kango-Wolf had nothing to do with quality. The last Wolf Cubs I can recall were orange plastic ones made in the late 1970s (at the same time as the teal/ivory industrial/trade range drills) and after that Wolf didn't seem to bother much with the DIY market other than having some 43mm attachments (AFAIK dropped shortly after the Kango merger). But judging from the number of old Wolf Cubs, Cubmasters, Quartermasters, Safety Masters, Challenge drills and the like still kicking about they must have been big in the DIY market in the fifties and sixties - good enough to give Black & Decker and Bridges (bought by Stanley in 1961) a run for their money

So I really don't see the DIY market or quality drop as having killed Wolf. It was just the times

And as you've probably guessed, I am indeed a bit of a collector of these things and always happy to talk tools

Note: A lot of the foregoing has been gleaned from studying scraps of literature, old magazines, etc as ell as an amount of personal recollection. That means I may well be wrong on some of the pertinent points and my dating is also a wee bit hazy - so if you know better, get in touch and we can correct what I've written and leave it for posterity. I'm especially interested in the production dates for various tools
 
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AFAIK Wolf ceased being family controlled somewhere around 1981 when they merged with another famous London firm, Kango. I guess it might have been on the retirement of Geoffrey Wolf, but I haven't done much research on that yet.

Kango was part of a larger group, the Dobson Park Group and on the face of it it was a good match with relatively little product overlap. Amongst other things Dobson Park (a mining industry supplier) at the time owned Dowty, who were a major supplier of hydraulic roof props for the UK's National Coal Board. As you are no doubt aware the 1980s were a period of industrial and economic turmoil in the UK during which time we saw major closures in the UK coal mining industry (something like 90% of deep mine capacity went in less than 6 years) together with major closures in the manufacturing sector. At the same time Sterling fluctuated wildly - never a good thing for manufacturers wishing to export. For a firm like Wolf, and later Kango-Wolf, it can't have been a good time, especially as the City of London seemed remarkably reluctant to invest in whole swathes of our indiginous manufacturing sector. Even so they did continue to turn out some pretty good tools, but I suspect that K-W weren't big enough to afford the development of parts of their range which they'd been buying in (belt sanders, planers and later jigsaws and cordless drill/drivers). Wolf had never developed their own planers and gave-up on making their own belt sanders in the mid- to late-1960s, preferring to buy-in those products from Makita instead. When the Grinderette was delayed into production they bought-in a Makita grinder to cover the gap in the range until they could get the in-house product onto the market. When they finally introduced 43mm collar drill attachments (jigsaw, circular saw, right angle adaptor, grinding wheel, etc) the attachments were all sourced from Makita in Japan. They even abandoned the Wolf jigsaw in favour of a bought-in product from Perles in the mid- to late-1970s, possibly because their in-house product lacked a tilting base and orbital motion facility (which would have necessitated a full redesign).

After the merger with Kango most of these bought-in products continued for a few years but eventually Kango-Wolf formed a new relationship with Holz-Her in Germany and began to source jigsaws, planers, belt sanders and cordless drill/drivers from them instead. A possible factor in that decision was the ever increasing presence of Makita in the UK during in the 1980s, culminating in Makita opening a new factory in Telford in 1991. With the sale of Stanley Power Tools to Bosch in 1981 Bosch came into the UK market much more strongly. Further inroads were also being made in the UK market at that time by Elu, but other firms such as Hitachi, Ryobi, AEG, etc also became more prominent as well. I think the loss of the NCB contracts throughout the 1980s must also have hit Dobson Park quite badly and they eventually sold out their power tool division to Atlas-Copco of Sweden in 1993. A-C were on an acquisition trail at the time which saw them take-over AEG of Winnenden (Germany) and with AEG came Milwaukee, some of whose tools were actually AEG designed and made.

Duplication in the ranges (together with some products being bought-in from rival Holz-Her) meant that something had to go and unfortunately as many of the in-house manufactured Wolf designs were older and were presumably coming due for replacement or revamping, it meant those. In addition with Germany being a more stable manufacturing environment at the time (currency stability being all for an exporter) much of the Wolf range together with the lighter Kangos were simply replaced wholesale by "Atlas-Copco" tools (rebadged AEGs). In a few cases AEG tools were made in yellow and branded "Kango" (e.g. the 240 SDS drill). The only things then remaining at Peterborough by that stage were the Kango 430 and 750/760 medium hammer drills, the 900 and 950 breakers and the 2500 heavy (road) breaker - so they moved production of them to Germany and shut Peterborough down. I believe that some of the engineering staff transferred to Germany as well

So I think the demise of Wolf and later Kango-Wolf had nothing to do with quality. The last Wolf Cubs I can recall were orange plastic ones made in the 1970s (at the same time as the teal/ivory industrial/trade range drills) and after that Wolf didn't seem to bother much with the DIY market other than having some 43mm attachments (AFAIK dropped shortly after the Kango merger). But judging from the number of old Wolf Cubs, Cubmasters, Quartermasters, Safety Masters, Challenge drills and the like still kicking about they must have been big in the DIY market in the fifties and sixties - good enough to give Black & Decker and Bridges (bought by Stanley in 1961) a run for their money

So I really don't see the DIY market or quality drop as having killed Wolf. It was just the times

And as you've probably guessed, I am indeed a bit of a collector of these things and always happy to talk tools

Note: A lot of the foregoing has been gleaned from studying scraps of literature, old magazines, etc as ell as an amount of personal recollection. That means I may well be wrong on some of the pertinent points and my dating is also a wee bit hazy - so if you know better, get in touch and we can correct what I've written and leave it for posterity. I'm especially interested in the production dates for various tools

I think the "death" of Wolf is likewise the history of the British Motorcycle Industry: finally strangled by the japanese Honda CB750( who killed the Triumph T160 triple) Btw: Since the late fifties I owe a Wolf EG2c, light production drill, a NW?? and a light hammer drill for use with triangular
rawlplug chisels, and a catalogue from the end of the fifties. Wolf was a nice brand! I started, as boy ,with a Wolf Cub (with the rare chuck) that was replaced by the EG2c, the Cub I sold then.
 

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I think the "death" of Wolf is likewise the history of the British Motorcycle Industry: finally strangled by the japanese
Having stared in the joinery trades in 1970 I lived through the period and can tell you first hand that the only Japanese tool firm anyone here seems to have heard of back then was Kamasa. By the late 1970s we began to see a few Makita breakers, sanders and planers (bearing in mind that Wolf were importing and rebadging some Makita products), but the firms who piled-in to the UK during the 1970s and 80s were mainly German. That meant Bosch, Metabo, Elu, AEG and Hilti (OK, Lichtenstein). Their tools were all well nailed together, they were modern designs and reliable. But most importantly they were cheaper than Wolf in the main on equivalent products (something I can well remember).

Fundamentally Dobson Park (Kango-Wolf's parent) didn't invest in the development and production of newer Wolf products. For example where were the jigsaws, planers, belt sanders or cordless drills? Bought-in after 1988 from Holz-Her (after the Makita arrangement was terminated). Where were the random orbit sanders or die grinders? Never made. Smaller circular saw? Bought-in from Perles (a knock-off of the Elu MH151/deWalt DW351 design). The firm was spending money on R&D but nothing new (on the Wolf side) was implemented after 1981 when Dobson Park took over.

I've slightly changed my tune as it has become more and more apparent that Atlas-Copco probably bought Kango just for their market segment in the mining and heavy construction industries. They knew most of the (ex-Wolf) range was time expired so they didn't bother developing new stuff. In fact only breakers and SDS drills (plus the wall saw) retained the Kango name after the A-C take-over whilst almost the entire ex-Wolf range were replaced wholesale by AEG products, rebranded "Atlas-Copco". I believe that some of the engineering staff moved from the UK to Germany and that the A-C PLH range of "drop-pot" drills together with the newer (now Milwaukee-branded) SDS Max tools were at least in part the result of their work

But I still contend that Wolf died not through over-attention to the DIY market, or a drop in quality, but more as a result of being too small, with too little investment in new product and as a result of having to contend with an over-valued currency. It didn't help that at a time when you could easily get hold of glossy brochures and catalogues from every tool firm under the sun (remember the open market was a 1980s thing, too), Kango Wolf seemed not to be bothered to supply glossies and print advertising was also fairly sparse if memory serves me well.

I started, as boy ,with a Wolf Cub (with the rare chuck) that was replaced by the EG2c, the Cub I sold then.
Well I started with a Bridges drill before graduating to a Wolf Sapphire. I've had a few Cubs and Cubmasters/Safetymasters/Quartermasters since, but they aren't really built for trade use - the Wolf production drills, on the other hand, are absolutely bullet-proof, as are the D-handles Sapphires.
 
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Job and knock -
Thank you so much for your encyclopaedic knowledge and obvious research! I’m just someone who has a lot of nostalgia when it comes to these old tools. I hope to upload a few photos again soon. Sorry to be so slow in response to your comment. Thank you
 
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I think the "death" of Wolf is likewise the history of the British Motorcycle Industry: finally strangled by the japanese Honda CB750( who killed the Triumph T160 triple) Btw: Since the late fifties I owe a Wolf EG2c, light production drill, a NW?? and a light hammer drill for use with triangular
rawlplug chisels, and a catalogue from the end of the fifties. Wolf was a nice brand! I started, as boy ,with a Wolf Cub (with the rare chuck) that was replaced by the EG2c, the Cub I sold then.

There have been a lot of changes since the machines you refer to were being built.
I guess it is the price of progress if it could be called that.
Any chance of seeing some photos of your Wolf collection?

Thank you for your comment 🙂
 

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I have this Made in Australia Wolf drill that not supposed to exist. I've looked for a few years and haven't been able to find anything Wolf Made in Australia.
It is still in good working order. Come from an estate I went through.
I anyone wants it just for the cost of standard Airmail postage from Aus,
It's yours.
I'm an Aeromodeller, not a tool collector.
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I have this Made in Australia Wolf drill that not supposed to exist. I've looked for a few years and haven't been able to find anything Wolf Made in Australia.
It is still in good working order. Come from an estate I went through.
I anyone wants it just for the cost of standard Airmail postage from Aus,
It's yours.
I'm an Aeromodeller, not a tool collector.
Cheers
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Hi Fred,
Thanks for sharing.
Very similar to the Made in England tool! Not sure what went on with where it was manufactured but good to see and an interesting twist. I hope to post a few more made in England items soon. Still adding one or two to the collection. Hope someone makes use of your kind offer.
Thanks again
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Picked up a Made In England 1/4" Wolf Heavy Duty drill NW2cE today at an estate sale - needing a bit of TLC but it's quite an interesting drill... hadn't come across one before.

PM'd you Fred - would love to compare a Made In Oz Wolf with a Made in the UK!

No pics of mine yet, working on finding the free time to pull it down and take a look.
 
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I haven't updated this thread recently although I have been updating my old Wolf 'Made in England' collection.

The latest is the 'Grinderette kit'
I still use this for grinding small items - it isn't used for cutting.

Grinderette kit (Wolf) by K Garrett, on Flickr

This tool is probably from the late 60s or early 70s
The safety switch hadn't been invented and the switch on this it is very fiddly and a little bit dangerous.
Grinderette kit (Wolf) by K Garrett, on Flickr

I didn't need another grinder or metal box but they are nice as part of the collection!
Thanks for looking :)
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Metal box is in nice condition, from the days where the power tool box was big enough to fit accessories in and it didn't take 5 minutes to get the cord in there neat enough so you could shut the lid.
 
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Metal box is in nice condition, from the days where the power tool box was big enough to fit accessories in and it didn't take 5 minutes to get the cord in there neat enough so you could shut the lid.

Thanks for the comment. I see you are based in Dorset - I got the metal box at the Great Dorset Steam Fair in 2018. I hope to upload some more of these old Wolf tools before the lock down ends!
 

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I have only ever been to the steam fair once, more than a decade ago, I don't get out much to things even if they are local.
It generally brings a massive increase in the crime rate of the local area when its on which is a shame.
 

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I’ve got a wolf die grinder arriving within the next10 days. Will post pics when it gets here. 1400 watts apparently. Need to source brushes for it at some stage. Just can’t find any historical specs anywhere...
 

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Here’s my Dad’s Wolf ‘Sapphire’ power drill.

Nothing particularly unusual, except that I was with him when he bought it new, in about 1970 or ‘71 I think. And yes, I was very small at the time...!

While I generally like using old hand tools, that’s usually because many are better, or at least better value, than modern ones. I’ve never been quite so keen with power tools though, as many of the more modern ones are considerably better, safer and nicer to use. (Though I wonder if the quality is ‘peaking’ and in decades to come we’re going to get cheaper not better).

Anyway, there can’t be many power tools nearly 50 years old that still work! Don’t use this much now, but I do occasionally. Should give it a real clean up!
 

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I would agree with you on the old power tools Dave, I find if they are in good condition stuff from the 80's on are generally good but anti vibration has gotten so much better since then, doesn't matter much for a drill but a demo hammer or SDS drill you really want a modern tool.
Grinders get worn out so apart from a spare 9' and my AEG 12" I haven't any over 10 years old
Elu routers and planers from the 90's are still great tools.
Things like jigsaws, nibblers, drywall screw guns are mostly older used tools, I don't use any enough to justify the money for new corded ones.

The Wolf stuff I have is mostly for collection purposes though I do use some occasionally.
 
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I have only ever been to the steam fair once, more than a decade ago, I don't get out much to things even if they are local.
It generally brings a massive increase in the crime rate of the local area when its on which is a shame.

Sorry to hear about the crime rate - not what I would have expected.
The 2018 show was probably my last - it was so big it was total chaos - a bit of a pity really!
 
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I’ve got a wolf die grinder arriving within the next10 days. Will post pics when it gets here. 1400 watts apparently. Need to source brushes for it at some stage. Just can’t find any historical specs anywhere...

Look forward to seeing it.
I have some advertising literature - if I find any info I will post it.
 
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Here’s my Dad’s Wolf ‘Sapphire’ power drill.

Nothing particularly unusual, except that I was with him when he bought it new, in about 1970 or ‘71 I think. And yes, I was very small at the time...!

While I generally like using old hand tools, that’s usually because many are better, or at least better value, than modern ones. I’ve never been quite so keen with power tools though, as many of the more modern ones are considerably better, safer and nicer to use. (Though I wonder if the quality is ‘peaking’ and in decades to come we’re going to get cheaper not better).

Anyway, there can’t be many power tools nearly 50 years old that still work! Don’t use this much now, but I do occasionally. Should give it a real clean up!

That's a nice looking old drill. Obviously well cared for.
This old stuff is nice to look at, and as you say not the best to use but for occasional use I find them OK - I have a few modern tools too - my battery powered drill has been great but I doubt if it will still be going in 50 years!
 

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Picked up a Stedall tool and accessories catalogue today, there are more pages than these on wolf, but I can't find a year at all. Guessing 1960s though. If anyone is interested I can look up any specific item for you
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