The VISES of Garage Journal

[Outlawmws]

Razor, most of us get a tube with an ID close to the size of the thread's, and notch it so we have access for the pin that holds the spring. Compress the spring, align the notch to the hole, slip the pin in, and release.

 

[davethorik]

I found this on craigslist.
https://akroncanton.craigslist.org/tls/d/hollands-erie-pa-6-swivel/6535185445.html

Hollands 56H, 6" jaw combo vise with the oversize anvil. Pretty badass vise, right?

Missing pipe jaws (to be expected)...and also what looks like about half the swivel base, and a chunk out of the slide. I'm guessing all 200ish lbs of it took a tumble when not bolted down

 

[Razorhunter]

Razor, most of us get a tube with an ID close to the size of the thread's, and notch it so we have access for the pin that holds the spring. Compress the spring, align the notch to the hole, slip the pin in, and release.

Yes, this would've been my preferred method exactly. However, this 200lb vise with its massive screw just did not lend itself well to doing so. A pipe with the required OD and ID for this method just was not available at the time.

 

[_vin_]

Got this today. 114x Athol. 4 inch jaw

 

[KMScott]

Got this today. 114x Athol. 4 inch jaw

Vin, is that a 114 or does it mention the 114X on the Casting's text. If you can mention the weight and max opening or max length of the Dynamic square slider measured past the Static when closed is a great way to measure max opening. Thanks in advance.

I am in Atlanta and missed meeting up with GETRIDAONE. Maybe next time.

 

[BlueBomber]

I found this today in the eyeglass repair closet of an optometrist who was closing his practice. SWMBO bundled it with a bunch of other optical equipment she was buying and told me I could have it for free!

 

[Fierljeppen]

Vin, is that a 114 or does it mention the 114X on the Casting's text. If you can mention the weight and max opening or max length of the Dynamic square slider measured past the Static when closed is a great way to measure max opening. Thanks in advance.

Hey KMScott, I noticed that you don't have any specs for this model in the spreadsheet, so I've attached -3- different sources for Vin's Athol farm / garage vise. Although the width and openings are all the same, the weights vary from source-to-source. I'm curious what the actual weight of Vin's vise is.

bluebomber...you ****!

 

[va.grouseman]

Blue, you owe her a night out on the town amongst other things.

 

[_vin_]

Vin, is that a 114 or does it mention the 114X on the Casting's text. If you can mention the weight and max opening or max length of the Dynamic square slider measured past the Static when closed is a great way to measure max opening. Thanks in advance.

I am in Atlanta and missed meeting up with GETRIDAONE. Maybe next time.

On my bathroom scale it weighed approximately 30 lbs. The max opening is
5-1/4 inches. The vise jaws are not replaceable. It is marked 114x on static and dynamic jaw.

 

[KMScott]

Hey KMScott, I noticed that you don't have any specs for this model in the spreadsheet, so I've attached -3- different sources for Vin's Athol farm / garage vise. Although the width and openings are all the same, the weights vary from source-to-source. I'm curious what the actual weight of Vin's vise is.

Thanks a bunch Fier.... I'll update weights when others are confirmed. What your guys tell me is what is posted. You have plenty of catalog pages that I will get to later, overwhelmed with collecting vise data and building vise parts.

Thanks Vin, updated.

 

[trijeff]

Hope the Easter Bunny brings you some nice goodies!!

 

[KMScott]

Damn Jeff, did you take the polishing down to a #15 diamond. Sure is purdy.

 

[AngryBeaver]

damn. thats too much polishing for my damp garage... lol

 

[bagged89s10]

Gentlemen,
Here are pics of the big Starrett 646 rear swivel jaw "disc" repair. I basically just machined off the broken piece, turned a new disc, and then drilled and tapped it for three grade 8, 3/8-16 SHCS. I guarantee the repair to be much stronger than the OEM design and will never break again. What do you think guys?

That’s a great job on the repair. Nice work!

 

[va.grouseman]

Trijeff, those jaws just won't look the same with Grinder, hammer, and hacksaw tracks, welder beads, and blow torch gullies in them.---But it just can't be helped.

 

[trijeff]

TJ: I hadn't thought of storing my putty knives like this, but not sure I can afford that fancy holder.

You should see my paint roller holder

Hey Mayer and Trijeff,
Could you guys tell me what is the diameter of your Reed 1C swivel bases? I need the major diameter, where it mates to the workbench. If anyone else has Reed 2C, 3C and 4C mahor dia of swivel base, I'd be super appreciative guys!
Now, for anyone here who has fought with a Starrett/Athol anti backlash spring in the main spindle of the vise, I actually encountered this for the first time this morning.
Here was my solution.... Aircraft safety wire the spring at two opposing points, 180 degrees from each other. The key here is that you must also file a little groove for the wire to give the damn thing clearance to slide over the leadscrew (or acme spindle I should say) -NOTE- This is only if your little thrust bearing washers fit as tightly as mine did originally. YMMV.
Kind of a PIA if you ask me, but becomes easy as pie with safety wire.

I get 6-3/4"

I found this today in the eyeglass repair closet of an optometrist who was closing his practice. SWMBO bundled it with a bunch of other optical equipment she was buying and told me I could have it for free!

You ****, that is all

Damn Jeff, did you take the polishing down to a #15 diamond. Sure is purdy.

Thanks Kevin. Those are new jaws from you, no doubt one of the tougher items I have polished. And shoot, check out the tool polishers thread ... this vise is kid stuff for sure.

 

[GETRIDAONE]

Jeff & BlueBomber The Easter Bunny must have run out of the good Wiltons by the time he got to the southeast

Kevin, I am sorry it didn't work out for a visit. Hope you had a great vacation !

 

[Lee Celtic]

Picked up this Record No. 0 at a sale today for £10 or $14 to add to my growing collection of Record Tools.. It's a little grubby but will clean up nice.

https://scontent-lhr3-1.**.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10154102_409521686140418_3828027317234253237_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=9f7a8d8dedc2e421913fbd5418e040aa&oe=5B74F978

 

[Outlawmws]

How Small is that #0 Lee?

 

[drivesitfar]

BB: so your wife and dentist conspired to give you a very early Christmas present. WELL DONE!!

TJ: some lucky soul won't need to put a mirror in his shop once he buys your vise. GEESH the guys on the other thread that shine their tools nicely will be impressed as I (we) am/are.

so pics of your paint roller holder??

 

[gman007]

How Small is that #0 Lee?

Outlaw Funny you should ask as I had the same question. I just checked the vise spreadsheet and it seems there are two entries for Record 0
2 1/2" @ 7.5lb
and
2 1/4" @5.5 lb

So it is pretty small.

Picked up this Record No. 0 at a sale today for £10 or $14 to add to my growing collection of Record Tools.. It's a little grubby but will clean up nice.

Lee Looks like a very nice find. Now I know zero about the market for vices in UK. But I seem to recall that one of other British members (Dutchgray) mentioning that the prices are not as high as in US. Nevertheless if this is an English made Record (again I think recently he mentioned that the ones made in the last 10-15 years or so are made in China) at £10 ($14) it sounds like a pretty good deal to me but obviously you guys over there are better judge of that.

PS
On the grubbiness scale, this does not score very high as it is pretty clean compared to what most of us are used to (rusty gold vices)

 

[Shiftless]

Tj:
Excellent job on that bullet. Top notch polishing. Those jaws are especially stunning! You should consider throwing in a pair of sunglasses when you sell that vise. Reflected sunlight might be dangerous.

 

[AngryBeaver]

kevins jaws polish up well

 

[MarlynOC]

Just posted to CL
https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/tls/d/vises-6-for-5000/6548928978.html

 

[Shiftless]

Just posted to CL free
https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/tls/d/vises-6-for-5000/6548928978.html

Not free...asking $50 for 6 rusty exposed screw vises. Might be a good buy for a project with a scout group or something like that. I wouldn’t buy them to fix up and “double my money” like the seller said in his ad.

But there is a different GJ thread for good deals on C/L
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7119032#post7119032

 

[dutchgray]

Picked up this Record No. 0 at a sale today for £10 or $14 to add to my growing collection of Record Tools.. It's a little grubby but will clean up nice.

That one is in nice order, but the small ones often are, tend to get looked after and are used for light work.

Outlaw Funny you should ask as I had the same question. I just checked the vise spreadsheet and it seems there are two entries for Record 0
2 1/2" @ 7.5lb
and
2 1/4" @5.5 lb

So it is pretty small.



Lee Looks like a very nice find. Now I know zero about the market for vices in UK. But I seem to recall that one of other British members (Dutchgray) mentioning that the prices are not as high as in US. Nevertheless if this is an English made Record (again I think recently he mentioned that the ones made in the last 10-15 years or so are made in China) at £10 ($14) it sounds like a pretty good deal to me but obviously you guys over there are better judge of that.

PS
On the grubbiness scale, this does not score very high as it is pretty clean compared to what most of us are used to (rusty gold vices)

I would expect to pay £30 or so on eBay posted for a good No0, the small ones are expensive for what they are, maybe more as that one is nice.
Its only the larger Records that really go for big money, so few people know about the other makes you can usually get great deals, anything over 6" is quite rare and starts to get expensive if condition is good, Swindens rotators are always expensive unless you get lucky with a local one.
For example I bought what looks like a nice Columbian 603 this morning on Ebay for £30, I was the only bidder, I know they are not the most liked of the American makes but still a decent vise.
There was a semi local fixed based Parker in the 4" or so range that was relisted several times and got down to £25 before it sold.

 

[Lee Celtic]

How Small is that #0 Lee?

the jaws are 2 1/2 inch wide the whole thing is maybe 10 inches long..

I already have the No.1 , No3 and No.25.. long way to go to get them all..lol

 

[FMC1959]

can anyone help me out on some info about this wilton.. its 2.5 inch jaws

Nobody commented on Z3K3Y's unusual looking Wilton, so I was "bumping" it to see if anyone had seen one like this. He states the jaws are 2.5" which would suggest a baby or "toddler" Wilton, but it looks....I don't know, weird?

click link for his pics
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7117285&postcount=63136

 

[AngryBeaver]

Nobody commented on Z3K3Y's unusual looking Wilton, so I was "bumping" it to see if anyone had seen one like this. He states the jaws are 2.5" which would suggest a baby or "toddler" Wilton, but it looks....I don't know, weird?

click link for his pics
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7117285&postcount=63136

made in china wilton junior vise.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wilton-632...067164&hash=item4d5c6840b6:g:X2EAAOSwZ8ZXBfs3

 

[gman007]

That one is in nice order, but the small ones often are, tend to get looked after and are used for light work.

I would expect to pay £30 or so on eBay posted for a good No0, the small ones are expensive for what they are, maybe more as that one is nice.
Its only the larger Records that really go for big money, so few people know about the other makes you can usually get great deals, anything over 6" is quite rare and starts to get expensive if condition is good, Swindens rotators are always expensive unless you get lucky with a local one.
For example I bought what looks like a nice Columbian 603 this morning on Ebay for £30, I was the only bidder, I know they are not the most liked of the American makes but still a decent vise.
There was a semi local fixed based Parker in the 4" or so range that was relisted several times and got down to £25 before it sold.

Dutch Thank you for the overview of the UK vice market.

Wow, £25 ($35) for a 4" fixed base Parker sold on UK eBay is considerably less than what it would have sold on eBay in US.

 

[dutchgray]

Dutch Thank you for the overview of the UK vice market.

Wow, £25 ($35) for a 4" fixed base Parker sold on UK eBay is considerably less than what it would have sold on eBay in US.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

It was there for weeks getting £5 cheaper each week, If it hadn't have been 25 miles away and I wasn't so busy I would probably have gone and got it, but I have plenty vices about already and you cant buy them all. Looked pretty good as well. Add says 7" but I think they mean the opening, as if it was really a 7" that bench is very large.
The big 8" Record 114 are usually £250 to £300, occasionally shipped but usually collection only. My 7" Parkinson quick release was £165

 

[mc_advrider]

I just joined this forum today while searching for a way to get my new to me Wilton 1755 Tradesman vice unstuck. I came across it while looking for a cheap welder and the owner threw it in with the deal because its stuck.

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[Lee Celtic]

That one is in nice order, but the small ones often are, tend to get looked after and are used for light work.



I would expect to pay £30 or so on eBay posted for a good No0, the small ones are expensive for what they are, maybe more as that one is nice.
Its only the larger Records that really go for big money, so few people know about the other makes you can usually get great deals, anything over 6" is quite rare and starts to get expensive if condition is good, Swindens rotators are always expensive unless you get lucky with a local one.
For example I bought what looks like a nice Columbian 603 this morning on Ebay for £30, I was the only bidder, I know they are not the most liked of the American makes but still a decent vise.
There was a semi local fixed based Parker in the 4" or so range that was relisted several times and got down to £25 before it sold.

It's a made in England one. .. there is a small cut in one of the jaws where someone has gone a little deep cutting but I can get new jaws for £5 but I think I'll just take them down a couple of mm or fill it with weld and grind it off then clean them up.. the rest is just oil and dust.. it's tiny when placed next to my No. 25..lol

the UK market for vices is mainly dictated by location.. it's not a big country but it's not cheap to ship heavy stuff, so stuff sold out in the sticks tends to be cheaper and cities more expensive as there are more people interested.. I tend to just shop local and pick stuff up more than have it shipped. Sad fact it's often cheaper to buy from china with free shipping than the uk with expensive post.. I collect Record tools so this one was a no brainer..

 

[Lee Celtic]

I just joined this forum today while searching for a way to get my new to me Wilton 1755 Tradesman vice unstuck. I came across it while looking for a cheap welder and the owner threw it in with the deal because its stuck.

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Welcome Mc-Advrider I'm sure you'll get the help you need.. there are a lot of vice guys on here with a wealth of knowledge when it comes to restoring vices.

 

[Fretters]

Dutch Thank you for the overview of the UK vice market.

Wow, £25 ($35) for a 4" fixed base Parker sold on UK eBay is considerably less than what it would have sold on eBay in US.

As mentioned before, I think we just have such a glut of vices over here that they're one of those ubiquitous, but under appreciated by many, items. Plus, a lot of people would have neither use for, nor any clue what to do with, a vice.

I've never paid vast amounts for any of mine, (the swivel jaw Parkinson & stand was my most expensive buy), but that's required patience on my part, as well as good timing & location considerations. As Lee mentioned, postage costs are prohibitive in many cases, so the location of an item can make a world of difference.

 

[dutchgray]

It's a made in England one. .. there is a small cut in one of the jaws where someone has gone a little deep cutting but I can get new jaws for £5 but I think I'll just take them down a couple of mm or fill it with weld and grind it off then clean them up.. the rest is just oil and dust.. it's tiny when placed next to my No. 25..lol

the UK market for vices is mainly dictated by location.. it's not a big country but it's not cheap to ship heavy stuff, so stuff sold out in the sticks tends to be cheaper and cities more expensive as there are more people interested.. I tend to just shop local and pick stuff up more than have it shipped. Sad fact it's often cheaper to buy from china with free shipping than the uk with expensive post.. I collect Record tools so this one was a no brainer..

If you can get the screws out you should be able to flip those jaws round and put the damage on the bottom against the castings where you wont see it.

 

[mc_advrider]

Welcome Mc-Advrider I'm sure you'll get the help you need.. there are a lot of vice guys on here with a wealth of knowledge when it comes to restoring vices.

Thanks Lee! This seems like a friendly place.

 

[dutchgray]

As mentioned before, I think we just have such a glut of vices over here that they're one of those ubiquitous, but under appreciated by many, items. Plus, a lot of people would have neither use for, nor any clue what to do with, a vice.

I've never paid vast amounts for any of mine, (the swivel jaw Parkinson & stand was my most expensive buy), but that's required patience on my part, as well as good timing & location considerations. As Lee mentioned, postage costs are prohibitive in many cases, so the location of an item can make a world of difference.

I think there are less collectors as well, with smaller collections in general, I don't personally know anyone besides myself (excluding machinist types and their milling vices) who has more than two bench vices in a home workshop environment, except farmers but I dont class that as just home use.
I got two nice small modern ish Records (think both are English)
View media item 62764from the local scrap yard for not much money, one was effectively nos apart from it had gone rusty from being in the rain, still has the paper shop sticker on the slide, fished out of their useful junk area, annoyingly they dont sell tools, use them themselves for breaking things down, so I couldn't buy an almost new rail of Snap-On metric impact sockets I found sat in the top of a water logged tool box, or the very nice set of Britool chrome Whitworth sockets sat out on a bench.
I think there are a lot of people out there currently abusing good old vices because they are still so cheap, without realising that the new ones are mostly junk.

 

[MayerMR]

Anyone looking for a Reed 2C? Looks to be missing the swivel base.

https://dallas.craigslist.org/sdf/tls/d/vintage-reed-vise-no-2c/6546967628.html

 

[MayerMR]

I just joined this forum today while searching for a way to get my new to me Wilton 1755 Tradesman vice unstuck. I came across it while looking for a cheap welder and the owner threw it in with the deal because its stuck.

View media item 82138

I just finished restoring and unsticking a Wilton 1750 a week or so ago.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=386890