The VISES of Garage Journal

[Razorhunter]

Ok, so whats with the "A" model Reed vises and also the "103S/104S/105S vises that are shown in my pic above?

 

[oldldh]

Starrett?

Nope...

I believe Starretts were painted with --- Zolotone Paint...

Of course, that is only a SWAG...

(Scientific Wild-Assed Guess...)

 

[meatsis]

Ok, so whats with the "A" model Reed vises and also the "103S/104S/105S vises that are shown in my pic above?

The “100s” vises are newer. I don’t knkw when they switched over though. Here’s a 106 I have. It has the “T” shaped jaws that are pinned in.

 

[chrisnazzy]

Starrett?

I've been wanting to paint my Athol 624N this color for awhile. Only cost effective way is to buy a case for $32 but I figure its a good color for other 50's & 60's vintage machinery too.

I'd been planning on ordering some Hammered Verde Green for my Wilton 600 too but I figured if I liked the Light Blue enough I may do the Wilton in the same color.

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[Razorhunter]

Thanks gman, so I guess that leaves us wondering what the "A" seried Reeds were exactly.
Snazzy, I recently bought some hammered light blue. Hell one can off Amazon was fairly cheap as I recall, and dis an entire 200lb vise. My problem with it was that it was way too silver tinted for me. Not enough blue, so I'm very interested to see how your light hammered blue turns out.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

I've been wanting to paint my Athol 624N this color for awhile. Only cost effective way is to buy a case for $32 but I figure its a good color for other 50's & 60's vintage machinery too.

I'd been planning on ordering some Hammered Verde Green for my Wilton 600 too but I figured if I liked the Light Blue enough I may do the Wilton in the same color.

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What color is that? Looks white to me.

 

[gman007]

Thanks gman, so I guess that leaves us wondering what the "A" seried Reeds were exactly.
Snazzy, I recently bought some hammered light blue. Hell one can off Amazon was fairly cheap as I recall, and dis an entire 200lb vise. My problem with it was that it was way too silver tinted for me. Not enough blue, so I'm very interested to see how your light hammered blue turns out.

Razor I am pretty sure at some point in the past this question has come up too but now I do not recall the exact answer.

From what I do remember A model is the next generation after the regular 200 series so for example 204 A is the generation after 204 but before the 204 R. And A series are very similar to previous generation : meat ball nose, built in jaws (no jaw inserts) and no split collar and no oil hole. Personally I do not remember of any differences between the two generations. If there are any differences may be someone else can elaborate.

 

[va.grouseman]

Old, I think it's more than a wild guess.---I think you nailed it.---Everyone I've ever seen that was NOS or near mint was painted with that stuff.---I have 2 Starretts with it and they are mint, would be NOS but set on the shelf so many years they have mildew film on them, so I'll downgrade them to mint.

 

[chrisnazzy]

What color is that? Looks white to me.

This picture of my Athol 624N is just light gray primer. I haven't painted it yet.

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[dangod]

I just bought an old Howard Iron Works #3, 4-1/2" vise and was wondering if anyone has spare parts for it. The following image is NOT my vise, but it shows the piece I'm looking for.

... anyone ?

 

[ByJustSomeGuy]

This is on FaceBag Marketplace now. What is a realistic value for this? Asking price is $350.
There is only one pic and it looks a little beat up. Anvil part has been dinged, it appears. Can’t get the pic to load on this post. Will keep trying. Their description...
“Vintage vise, dated over 100 years old. It's a Holland 15H, made in Erie, PA. 5 inch jaws that are cast in place to confirm age, fixed base. 80 lbs. Heavy duty. Please do your homework on this item before offering a lower price. My price is very fair. Serious inquiries only.”

 

[davethorik]

This is on FaceBag Marketplace now. What is a realistic value for this? Asking price is $350.
There is only one pic and it looks a little beat up. Anvil part has been dinged, it appears. Can’t get the pic to load on this post. Will keep trying. Their description...
“Vintage vise, dated over 100 years old. It's a Holland 15H, made in Erie, PA. 5 inch jaws that are cast in place to confirm age, fixed base. 80 lbs. Heavy duty. Please do your homework on this item before offering a lower price. My price is very fair. Serious inquiries only.”

When people say their price is fair that's when you know to stay away. They think they are going to retire off of the sale of the vise. 5" fixed base vises are not rare/uncommon by any means. $100 would be a fair price, $350 tells me they must be smoking some really good drugs.

 

[KMScott]

It may look like this vise. If so the price is a little high. Download the pictures as a .jpg and select the paper clip to add the pic's.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2021745&postcount=3435

 

[ByJustSomeGuy]

davethorik,
Thank you for the confirmation. There was no way $350 was going to work. I also ran into someone wanting to sell a Fisher anvil, site unseen, for $1000. Wouldn’t even tell me how much it weighed, just said it was heavy. I had the same thought as you...they are trying to retire on one sale. Thanks again!

 

[ByJustSomeGuy]

It may look like this vise. If so the price is a little high. Download the pictures as a .jpg and select the paper clip to add the pic's.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2021745&postcount=3435

KMScott, thank you as well. Trying to do this from my phone and it’s not cooperating. I’ll try from my desktop when I get home tonight.
But it does look like the pic you sent, just not in as good of shape. I’ll see if I can also get them to post additional angles of pics.

 

[KMScott]

KMScott, thank you as well. Trying to do this from my phone and it’s not cooperating. I’ll try from my desktop when I get home tonight.
But it does look like the pic you sent, just not in as good of shape. I’ll see if I can also get them to post additional angles of pics.

I have restored a Reed and a Hollands the same size and found the the Reeds were much better built al tho a little smaller. I added a set of custom jaws to my Holland. The Reeds would be more worth the $350 if restored. Just my 2cents.

 

[va.grouseman]

That's pretty work KMS.---You do go the distance!!!

 

[KMScott]

Thanks VA, they are brought back from the dead.

 

[Smiles79]

Just got this Lakeside 4" vise at an auction for $25. Not sure if I overpayed or not, but I'm happy to finally have a vise. Anyone know anything about these?

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[Outlawmws]

More and better pics might help...

 

[Outlawmws]

OK Guys, I've started Garage Sale thread in classifieds to help out Carla. Only a few items so far but two are vises Carla restored and upgraded with thrust bearings on the main screw.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=389754

Just to get you guys drooling:

 

[KMScott]

Nice work Carla on those two vises, outlaw you are a good person for helping Carla.

 

[wazzabie]

Columbian 225 2.5in machinist angle vise new in the box. The jaws of the vise can be changed. I would like to put brass jaws in it. I know were a few more of these can be found. I'm thinking about going back and getting the rest of them.

 

[jrobb316]

Do thrust bearings hold up under the crushing load they take when you have something clamped?

 

[GETRIDAONE]

I just bought an old Howard Iron Works #3, 4-1/2" vise and was wondering if anyone has spare parts for it. The following image is NOT my vise, but it shows the piece I'm looking for.

It would be like finding a needle in a haystack. You don't see those vises that often. Attached is a shop made collar for an old Parker of the same time period as your Howard. A machine shop should be able to make something if it is in your budget. The collar will likley be more than what you paid for the vise. It would be a case of never getting your investment back if you decided to sell.

 

[RubiconJK]

Some recent vise finds for me. A Torco by Wilton in really good condition all original paint, which is now mounted and in use. A TESCO Tulsa 13A (which also has a "12" stamp as shown). And a Littlestown No 112. Can anyone help me with how I might determine year of manufacture on these vises? I can find general info on the Torco and Littlestown, but haven't found much on TESCO at all. Thanks.

 

[dangod]

I just bought an old Howard Iron Works #3, 4-1/2" vise and was wondering if anyone has spare parts for it. The following image is NOT my vise, but it shows the piece I'm looking for.

It would be like finding a needle in a haystack. You don't see those vises that often. Attached is a shop made collar for an old Parker of the same time period as your Howard. A machine shop should be able to make something if it is in your budget. The collar will likley be more than what you paid for the vise. It would be a case of never getting your investment back if you decided to sell.

Thanks GETRIDAONE. I figured as much, re: finding a needle in a haystack - just thought I'd try and possibly get lucky. I appreciate that at least someone replied

 

[trijeff]

Do thrust bearings hold up under the crushing load they take when you have something clamped?

The INA brand roller bearing stack I put in my Reed 104 1/2 R is rated for 3,850 lbs dynamic and 16,300 lbs static load. Not sure how this compares to the OEM solid thrust washer, but haven't had anything back out of the jaws yet.

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[scooternut]

Gotta collect the set, well kinda, all 4 hole base set anyways. Someone was just asking about Reed lineage.

Out front is Yost 103, Reed 104R, Reed 105R, Reed 106 [emoji173], Craftsman 5180 (3 1/2).




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[Outlawmws]

Jrobb, it of course depends on the bearing, but similar design bearings are used on kingpins on beam axles, all the way up to the biggest trucks and equipment. I'm pretty sure they have the issue knocked. (think about how much stress those go through when a tire hits a big pot hole, not to mention the weights involved)

 

[RubiconJK]

Some recent vise finds for me. A Torco by Wilton in really good condition all original paint, which is now mounted and in use. A TESCO Tulsa 13A (which also has a "12" stamp as shown). And a Littlestown No 112. Can anyone help me with how I might determine year of manufacture on these vises? I can find general info on the Torco and Littlestown, but haven't found much on TESCO at all. Thanks.

And what is strange is that I never find vises and suddenly they seem to be finding me! Today I found this Columbian D45 M5 and after a good cleanup it appears to be in good shape other than the pivot bolt handle. Perhaps someone might give me a clue where I can find a replacement? Also curious if anyone knows approx age on these?

 

[Outlawmws]

Straighten the handle you have. That is not bad.

 

[Provincial]

Rubicon, I bought a D44 M3 new in 1973, if that means anything.

 

[RubiconJK]

Rubicon, I bought a D44 M3 new in 1973, if that means anything.

Thank you for the reply and the info.

 

[gman007]

Gotta collect the set, well kinda, all 4 hole base set anyways. Someone was just asking about Reed lineage.

Out front is Yost 103, Reed 104R, Reed 105R, Reed 106 [emoji173], Craftsman 5180 (3 1/2).




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Scoot
That is a very nice and desirable bunch of vises you have there

 

[Thrumcap]

A rather large vise has appeared, unfortunately rather far away. States that it is a two person lift.



What can be deduced from this picture.

Looks like a Prentiss for starters.

Thrumcap

Never did hear back on this. FWIW, ads still up so any GJers near Salmon Arm, BC may want to take a look on kijiji.
Thrumcap

 

[autopts]

Fellas, I thought about where I should show this swivel clamp and decided this thread would get the most lookers. I bought this swivel clamp from Wilton. Its fits their current Chinese 2 1/2" vise hoping it might fit either the 920 or 825 2 1/2" but it does not. I show measurements with the photos. If you have a smaller vise and need a swivel, and the measurement come close, contact me.

 

[2oolhound]

Hi Guys, I got this vise a while back with a bunch of stuff I bought from a retired welder. He brought the vise with him from Sweden when he immigrated about 60 years ago and I think he said it was made in the 1930's. I'm thinking of selling it because I have enough vises now and just don't use it. I really like the shape and it's real smooth to operate. I tried searching the patent numbers but came up empty. I'd like to know it's manufacture date and it was either Sweden or Switzerland where it was made. It got 5" jaws and weighs 20KG which is about 45LBs. If anyone has seen another of can offer any info I'm all ears.

 

[Outlawmws]

Now that's an interesting vise 2oolhound, and if the age is right another cylinder design that predates the Wilton/Yost designs. I'm surprised the support shelf survived as thin as it is. seems like a weak link.

Also for a swivel design, 4 bolts? sort of cumbersome. Not likely to slip though!

 

[gman007]

Now that's an interesting vise 2oolhound, and if the age is right another cylinder design that predates the Wilton/Yost designs. I'm surprised the support shelf survived as thin as it is. seems like a weak link.

Also for a swivel design, 4 bolts? sort of cumbersome. Not likely to slip though!

It seems Swedes are big on cylindrical vises! Here are two bofors/soderfors vises that are similar and again with a very thin support shelf. At least this support shelf has the "crease" on the sides which should give it more strength.

In the photo two there is something bolted to the end of support shelf that looks like might be some kind of improvisation ("Swedish Red Neck ingenuity" ).