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mowersplus84

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I Have tried to watch his channel on more than one occasion. But I can't seem to get past his Incoherent ramblings and Constant **** talk.
 

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At about 10 minutes into the video, he breaks the gear assembly on the new Hercules grinder; I was disappointed in that.
 

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I Have tried to watch his channel on more than one occasion. But I can't seem to get past his Incoherent ramblings and Constant **** talk.
It's a shame, because his early videos were actually really good. But his "AvE Character" is just getting to be too much. He's getting more and more full of himself, more belligerent towards his viewers/commenters, and just more unwatchable. Lately he's been making lots of bold claims without anything to back them up, and he gets belligerent when people call him out on it.

He's literally become a caricature of himself (the term flanderization comes to mind). Not sure I can really blame the guy though, when he's got hundreds of thousands of subscribers, and thousands of comments all screaming his catch phrases. That'll go to your head pretty quick.
 

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I Have tried to watch his channel on more than one occasion. But I can't seem to get past his Incoherent ramblings and Constant **** talk.

LOL, I think he likes those a lot, I thought it was a Canadian thing, but nope, he likes them a lot ... him and this old tony channel seems to be the same guy but completely 180 opposite in the spectrum...
 

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I think Ave is more entertainment than actual engineering. But he does seem knowledgeable in a lot of fields. But then again Canadians are a little "different":bounce:
 

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Take it for what it is, it is a pretty good informative channel. I work in the service industry, and am pretty much immune to anything offensive. I find it really hard to be offended actually. :headscrat

As for his inability to take a calling out, he did just that a few days ago with a video called exactly, "I made a mistake!" He appreciated the call out, and the ability to learn from said call out.
It's not the "bad words" that bothers me. It's his eccentricities. Like when he tears open a box with a chainsaw and then complains when the item inside doesn't work right. How can you complain the trigger on a glue gun is sticky when you smashed the thing with a hammer to open the box?

Likewise with the recent Fluke meter. He called it garbage even though he didn't RTFM. When called out by several electronics guys in the comments, he acted beligerent towards them. Yeah some things he admits he's wrong on, but not everything.

Seriously, go watch his first dozen or so videos compared to the latest. Huge decline in quality and content. Huge increase in ego.
 

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He makes me laugh.
He’s taught me **** about materials science and hydraulics.
He’s introduced one of my PNW Logger Grandpas’ favorite words into the lexicon of YouTube.
His wit, humor, and intelligence make a few folks on here jealous to the point of anger.
What’s not to like???
 

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If he had the time to do a BOLTR on every power tool on the market it might change the way tools are made and who's still in business to make them.

Find someone else with such a large following who takes the time to disassemble and really review a tool. He tears down and assesses the quality of the switching components, heat sinking, bearings, gears and gearboxes, even whether the plastic is glass fiber reinforced or not. No other reviewer is so thorough, its refreshing to hear something besides "bought to you by our sponsor..." and "feels good in the hand".

Youtube shills are plentiful, it seems like every nobody who can make an Amazon Affiliate link wants to review their tools. Someone who wants to share some knowledge for knowledge's sake is rare in that format.

As for his "character" - if you've ever spent time in any of the mines up north, and perhaps some other industrial sectors, you'd come to realize it may be an act for him but it isn't much of a charicature. I can think of plenty of real people who seem equally unhinged. And whatever, it works for him, and he has the subscriber base to prove it.
 

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It's not the "bad words" that bothers me. It's his eccentricities. Like when he tears open a box with a chainsaw and then complains when the item inside doesn't work right. How can you complain the trigger on a glue gun is sticky when you smashed the thing with a hammer to open the box?

Likewise with the recent Fluke meter. He called it garbage even though he didn't RTFM. When called out by several electronics guys in the comments, he acted beligerent towards them. Yeah some things he admits he's wrong on, but not everything.

Seriously, go watch his first dozen or so videos compared to the latest. Huge decline in quality and content. Huge increase in ego.

Pretty much hit the nail on the head with this I don't care about the un-boxing its funny the first time then just blah. Seems imo that his channel is kind of stagnate as of late and much more fillers and less tool boltrs. What really "exposed" him in my mind was when he called out real tool reviews or whatever the guy that has the impact test stuff because his super janky rig didn't replicate the "lab" results. However with that said he is the only one that is unafraid of taking brand new tools apart and showing the guts even if he is making money hand over fist doing it.
 

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I enjoy his stuff. I've learned a lot, and read and Googled a lot more because of this or that that he mentioned or showed. Often times I put his chanel on when I'm doing my computer work and pay half *** attention until something piques my interest, then rewind and learn.

I know he has a lot of haters, but that dude definitely knows a lot about a lot. And I admire his family values.

That said, I also watch Abom79, tubalcain, Hicock 45, and a bunch of other stuff.
 
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I think Ave is more entertainment than actual engineering. But he does seem knowledgeable in a lot of fields. But then again Canadians are a little "different":bounce:

I always thought Americans were a little different. :lol: My opinion of Ave has changed a little but I guess it depends on which videos you decide to watch. Ave lives in the Vancouver, BC area. There are rural areas around here near the border that are straight out of a Dukes of Hazard set and my impression of Ave was that he was a city guy putting on a backwoods act,

What changed for me was watching him tear down tool company's products and explaining the filings in them and the poor choice of bearings and metal and comparing those videos to other reviewers which basically said product 1 feels good and looks as good as the way more expensive product 2
 

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LOL, I think he likes those a lot, I thought it was a Canadian thing, but nope, he likes them a lot ... him and this old tony channel seems to be the same guy but completely 180 opposite in the spectrum...
This Old Tony is the soothing Yin to Ave's raging wang...I mean Yang.

They're different but I've learned plenty from both of them.
 

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This Old Tony is the soothing Yin to Ave's raging wang...I mean Yang.

They're different but I've learned plenty from both of them.

I always thought they were the same person, LOL except the personality is 180 deg difference. Curious enough that I almost started a thread and ask... but then this one showed up :).
 

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I found his channel a few months ago and I like it a lot. He seems really knowledgeable. Seems to have experience in a wide range of things and brings them together nicely.

Common guys it's an average guy in his basement or garage putting videos on youtube...let's see you do better. I think for what it is the channel is good. Remember most of it is for entertainment, but if a tool can't take a little abuse during opening do we think it's going to last in a Canadian mine?
 

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I have watched all of his videos. They are entertaining and educational with a good laugh. I have learned quite a bit about what to expect from a "quality" tool.
 
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American Locomotive

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Common guys it's an average guy in his basement or garage putting videos on youtube...let's see you do better.
There are dozens of other YouTube educational channels with smart, educated and entertaining individuals with far less hubris than AvE.
I think for what it is the channel is good. Remember most of it is for entertainment, but if a tool can't take a little abuse during opening do we think it's going to last in a Canadian mine?
Why are you using a homeowner grade arts & craft hot glue gun in a Canadian mine?
 

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I am fairly immature and find his stuff to be pretty damn funny. When the camera loses focus and he yells at it "Focus you f@ck", and it works! haha

Yeah I'm sure his stuff isn't 100% accurate and there are some things he is missing, but overall the guy covers a lot of material in pretty good detail. Good enough for me I guess.
 

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I enjoy his videos, but rarely make it threw entire episode. I did steal one of his saying, " looks like that's been cut with a dull beaver."
 

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There are dozens of other YouTube educational channels with smart, educated and entertaining individuals with far less hubris than AvE.

Yes, and there’s a certain brand of old fart that finds hubris in a youngster offensive. This old fart finds it entertaining.
 

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I barely watch. Maybe once in a while when a video title catches my eye. I have to wonder if people take the guy seriously in any way. If it's all a joke, then that's fine, but he presents ideas like he really "knows" and it some kinda "professional" and I'm watching thinking "Really *******? You're not revealing some big trade secret. Most of us doin' this **** for a living have known that since we where still newbies." Again, if it's all in jest, then that's fine, but I think many viewers might not know better and so they'll take the guy seriously....I made the mistake of commenting on his "looks professional" comment on some welding and got a very terse response in minutes...I guess he was worried I'd reveal he's a hack. :lol_hitti
 

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Someone has actually put together a dictionary/translation

https://www.scribd.com/document/372129668/AvE-Dictionary-2018-02

Here is a sample
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My biggest gripe is he thinks a blonde **** hair is finer than red maybe that’s a Canadian thing.
 

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There are dozens of other YouTube educational channels with smart, educated and entertaining individuals with far less hubris than AvE.

Why are you using a homeowner grade arts & craft hot glue gun in a Canadian mine?

There was a comment about his reviews about a sticking trigger and it possibly being caused by the way he opens packages. My comment was simply that if he's reviewing things, that it's clear that his opinion is that it should be able to take some form of abuse, but does not mean that everything he uses has to be like that. Aside from being part of the review, the way he opens packages is entertaining, which is part of what he does.

it's clear you're not a fan, and that's ok.
 

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Someone on here had directed me to his channel a month or 2 ago and I never got around to it, but I just tried watching a fluke video and made it through 5 minutes before I was clenching my jaw and had to shut it off. i never watch any tool review videos, and this guy seems to reinstate why. just a lot of awkwardly forced everyman/ tough guy talk mixed and a little too much ego/ know-it-all'ism for me.
 

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There was a comment about his reviews about a sticking trigger and it possibly being caused by the way he opens packages. My comment was simply that if he's reviewing things, that it's clear that his opinion is that it should be able to take some form of abuse, but does not mean that everything he uses has to be like that. Aside from being part of the review, the way he opens packages is entertaining, which is part of what he does.

it's clear you're not a fan, and that's ok.
He knocks the products in his reviews, for damage he caused. He complains about the trigger on something being sticky, even though he smashed the freakin' thing with a hammer opening the package.

He complains that a multimeter doesn't work right, when he didn't read the manual. He loudly proclaims that same multimeter is electrically dangerous, even though it's not. It's "dangerous" because he doesn't really understand how and why its constructed the way it is. He pretends to understand a lot of things he does not.

He constantly spreads misinformation, and I see it parroted all over the internet and other videos by his viewers. Some really egregious things he will correct, but there are tons and tons of "little" things he says that are wrong. All of those "little" things compound together, giving his viewers that don't know any better a poor or just blatantly wrong understanding of many things.

It'd be one thing if he made it clear his channel was just purely for entertainment and bumbling around in the shop. But the problem is he also goes into these "educational" tangents, where he'll spend 25 minutes trying to explain a complicated subject very wrongly.

I know many degreed electronics engineers that can't stand to watch his segments on electronics, as they are always so convoluted, bizarre or just blatantly wrong.
 

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It's a shame, because his early videos were actually really good. But his "AvE Character" is just getting to be too much. He's getting more and more full of himself, more belligerent towards his viewers/commenters, and just more unwatchable. Lately he's been making lots of bold claims without anything to back them up, and he gets belligerent when people call him out on it.

He's literally become a caricature of himself (the term flanderization comes to mind). Not sure I can really blame the guy though, when he's got hundreds of thousands of subscribers, and thousands of comments all screaming his catch phrases. That'll go to your head pretty quick.
Good analysis. Totally agree.

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