aunsafe2015
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First, let me say I'm not trying to start a controversial discussion.
From time to time on this forum when somebody mentions a DIY mini split install, somebody will show up and tell them what they did is technically illegal and requires an EPA cert. Does anybody know for certain whether or not that is correct? I'm particularly interested in DIY installs of Mitsubishi, Fujitsu, and other brands of that nature, as opposed to the DIY brands that claim they don't require a pressure test or vacuum.
The most relevant thing about this question that I can find is this from the EPA website:
https://www.epa.gov/section608/epas...m-questions-and-answers-section-608-certified
I don't see any exceptions for homeowners doing work on their own home, so it looks to me like, at least technically, an EPA cert is required to do a mini split.
The quote above specifically mentions adding or removing refrigerant. I know that is not required for many or even most mini split installs because the units are pre-charged. So I don't think a cert is required if that were the only thing mentioned in the quotation.
But it also mentions connecting pre-charged lines. And the last sentence mentions "attaching or detaching hoses and gauges." That would cover doing the nitrogen pressure test and pulling the vacuum, right? So it would seem that even if you do not have to add or remove refrigerant, merely doing the pressure test and pulling the vacuum falls within the scope of the quote above. Right?
I'm just thinking out loud here, folks. If anybody knows the answer for certain, or wants to weigh in on what I've said above, I would welcome any discussion. I want the answer to be that "no, a certification is not required for a a homeowner working on his own home," but I don't see how to get there.
And again, just to be clear, I'm not here to judge anybody or tell anybody they need to get an EPA cert. I'm just trying to figure out whether it is technically required or not.
P.S. I suppose if a cert is required, then there would be a question of whether type 1 or type 2 is required. Type 1 mentions "small appliances" that use less than 5 pounds of refrigerant. I think many mini splits use less than 5 pounds of refrigerant. But they are split systems, unlike window units and PTACs, so I could see the argument that a type 2 cert is required notwithstanding the use of less than 5 pounds of refrigerant.
From time to time on this forum when somebody mentions a DIY mini split install, somebody will show up and tell them what they did is technically illegal and requires an EPA cert. Does anybody know for certain whether or not that is correct? I'm particularly interested in DIY installs of Mitsubishi, Fujitsu, and other brands of that nature, as opposed to the DIY brands that claim they don't require a pressure test or vacuum.
The most relevant thing about this question that I can find is this from the EPA website:
Is technician certification required to install an R-410A mini-split?
Yes. Adding or removing refrigerant from a mini-split as part of installation, and/or connecting or disconnecting hoses or pre-charged lines requires a section 608 technician certification. Activities reasonably expected to violate the integrity of the refrigerant circuit include but are not limited to: Attaching or detaching hoses and gauges to and from the appliance; adding or removing refrigerant; adding or removing components; and cutting the refrigerant line.
https://www.epa.gov/section608/epas...m-questions-and-answers-section-608-certified
I don't see any exceptions for homeowners doing work on their own home, so it looks to me like, at least technically, an EPA cert is required to do a mini split.
The quote above specifically mentions adding or removing refrigerant. I know that is not required for many or even most mini split installs because the units are pre-charged. So I don't think a cert is required if that were the only thing mentioned in the quotation.
But it also mentions connecting pre-charged lines. And the last sentence mentions "attaching or detaching hoses and gauges." That would cover doing the nitrogen pressure test and pulling the vacuum, right? So it would seem that even if you do not have to add or remove refrigerant, merely doing the pressure test and pulling the vacuum falls within the scope of the quote above. Right?
I'm just thinking out loud here, folks. If anybody knows the answer for certain, or wants to weigh in on what I've said above, I would welcome any discussion. I want the answer to be that "no, a certification is not required for a a homeowner working on his own home," but I don't see how to get there.
And again, just to be clear, I'm not here to judge anybody or tell anybody they need to get an EPA cert. I'm just trying to figure out whether it is technically required or not.
P.S. I suppose if a cert is required, then there would be a question of whether type 1 or type 2 is required. Type 1 mentions "small appliances" that use less than 5 pounds of refrigerant. I think many mini splits use less than 5 pounds of refrigerant. But they are split systems, unlike window units and PTACs, so I could see the argument that a type 2 cert is required notwithstanding the use of less than 5 pounds of refrigerant.
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