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ClappedOutBport

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Okay I guess it's time for me to chime in. I have a couple drill presses, a Craftsman and a delta that I don't think are really old but this bad boy is from back in the early 50's. It's a 21" Bickford Super Service that found it's way home to my shop.

I had to build a RPC to be able to run it because it has a 3 hp, 3 phase motor on it. I had to rebuild the motor control box because I never could get the old motor starter to work but after redoing the control she works like a charm. I just need to find a manual so I can find out what oil to put in the head and spindle. It has sight glasses on both but they are so stained I can't tell if there is oil in them or not. I has to be some in there because it runs really quiet.

Here she is sitting in my little machine shop.

What a beast! I like the earlier ones with the round table that you could rotate about the column and move the table. Makes it easy to reposition for holes while keeping the work clamped. They certainty don't make super service drill presses like that anymore.
 
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I was cleaning my father-in-laws barn a few years ago and came across an old drill press with castings on the side, ‘Texas A&M University Eng. Tech. Dep.’ After a little research, I learned that my wife’s cousin had made the drill press in the early 80’s as part of his mechanical engineering degree. Being an Aggie myself, I was honored to restore this piece of family history. Here are a few before & after photos.

Zip94, that's a good looking dp. And with history too. I wonder if engineering students still do projects like that today?

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Had never ran across this thread before so I'll add my own now. First and oldest would be my Burke Machine Tool No 1 sensitive drill press, it from "around" 1912 and appears to be all original including the electric motor.
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Next is small Montgomery Wards Power-Kraft bench top unit. No idea what year it is and all photo's are how I purchased it for $20.
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Just got this for $80 this morning. Delta Milwaukee DP220. couple dings in the table but no "arc of shame" I already replaced the motor with a 1/2 HP Power-Kraft unit I had on hand but it's not in the pics.
The little research I did says it's from 1946.

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Had never ran across this thread before so I'll add my own now. First and oldest would be my Burke Machine Tool No 1 sensitive drill press, it from "around" 1912 and appears to be all original including the electric motor.

Photos didn't show up; try uploading them in your response or you can use Postimages.org to host, which is what I do.

S/F,

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I've got this nice little WT drill press from the 1930's that its my everyday user:
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I recently replaced the column with a longer one to make it a standing press. I also added a wider pine bottom to the base to make it steadier. While I had it apart I cleaned it up with some Purple Power and then shined up the table tops, but decided to keep the original finish. I then wiped a light coat of boiled linseed oil on it and let it cook in the sun for a day or so to cure it on. Lookin' good these days!

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Here's my old Delta that needs a little TLC...once I finish the shop remodel, I'm onto this....
the switch that connects to the pull rod is bad, need to locate a replacement for it.
 

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Hello to all members on The Garage Journal, new member here. Joined to see if I can get some info on my old Enco floor Drill Press, model 40015. Switches burned up and need some info or help with rewiring. Thanks in advance in any help or advice you can give me. Lep
 

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Hello to all members on The Garage Journal, new member here. Joined to see if I can get some info on my old Enco floor Drill Press, model 40015. Switches burned up and need some info or help with rewiring. Thanks in advance in any help or advice you can give me. Lep

Lep,

I'm sure we could help you out, but it would help to show some photos of your drill press - especially the switch and whatever wiring you can. Without photos it is very difficult to rule out things like previous owners replacing switches with the wrong types, replaced original motors, and just plain poor wiring jobs. Really the list goes on.
 

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Had never ran across this thread before so I'll add my own now. First and oldest would be my Burke Machine Tool No 1 sensitive drill press, it from "around" 1912 and appears to be all original including the electric motor.

Next is small Montgomery Wards Power-Kraft bench top unit. No idea what year it is and all photo's are how I purchased it for $20.

just got this for $80 this morning. Delta Milwaukee DP220. couple dings in the table but no "arc of shame" I already replaced the motor with a 1/2 HP Power-Kraft unit I had on hand but it's not in the pics.
The little research I did says it's from 1946.

Please Just Upload Photos here.
They did not come through.
Then people delete then, and someone is researching something, and No Pictures= "worthless thread"
:thumbup: :thumbup:
Sounds nice My Friend.....no "arc of shame" Is A Good Thing?
Like to see them If You Get A chance to re upload here!~!~:beer:
Have A Great Day!!!!:pimpflash
 

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Yesterday morning I picked up this Walker-Turner for $35. The unique thing about it is the motor with a switch on the side that's marked "Normal Power" & "Super Power" never seen that before on a electric motor.
The head has a braze repair so I think I'm going to part this one out and keep looking for a better unit to restore.
 

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Yesterday morning I picked up this Walker-Turner for $35. The unique thing about it is the motor with a switch on the side that's marked "Normal Power" & "Super Power" never seen that before on a electric motor.
The head has a braze repair so I think I'm going to part this one out and keep looking for a better unit to restore.
That's really an interesting motor!!

Apparently it has dual windings and the normal power mode was to save $'s on power usage.

However drill presses don't normally run at high duty cycles so the savings would be negligible.

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Thanks for that Dave, very interesting!
Already had a PM offering a replacement head but I still think I'm going to look for something in better condition. There is another floor model W-T listed close to me with a cheap replacement motor attached. I think the motor I have here would be a nice addition to it if I can get the guy to return my messages.
Couple more photo's of my current unit.
 

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That could be a two speed motor, something like 1140 RPM and the 1740 RPM shown on the nameplate. Many furnace fan motors are set up that way. I have a few of them, and will be installed where a lower speed is a welcome option.
 

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Okj Bill started a thread to show off his new Buffalo drill press and Jabberwoki insisted we start a new thread to show off our cool " old " drill presses . Soooo I will kick it off with my 1959 Craftsman 15" floor model I picked up yesterday and will toss in a few pics of the 1959 Craftsman Bench lights I picked up at the same time :D.
:thumbup::thumbup:Very nice Rick!

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I was cleaning my father-in-laws barn a few years ago and came across an old drill press with castings on the side, ‘Texas A&M University Eng. Tech. Dep.’ After a little research, I learned that my wife’s cousin had made the drill press in the early 80’s as part of his mechanical engineering degree. Being an Aggie myself, I was honored to restore this piece of family history. Here are a few before & after photos.
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How awesome is that?:pimpflash:pimpflash :bounce::bounce::):):wtf::wtf::beer::beer::thumbup::thumbup:
Really nicely done:bowdown::bowdown:
The 0EM & your restoration!

I love it!!:bowdown::bowdown:
 

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Just grabbed this Atlas 74 from craigslist. 1940s-50s. Missing the feed stop / gauge & collar. Also missing spring cover, but someone made a replacement that works fine. Otherwise everything looks good. Original motor too. Figured $140 was a fair price for a machine that can potentially run for another 70 years.

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Got one of these for free (pic is not mine, but it’s in similar condition) with a vise the other day. Any ideas on restoration tips?

Ideally I set it up as a stand-alone tube notcher, it doesn’t seem to have the ease of adjustment as newer models, but it would work great for a singular task such as notching.

Thanks!
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Got one of these for free (pic is not mine, but it’s in similar condition) with a vise the other day. Any ideas on restoration tips?

Ideally I set it up as a stand-alone tube notcher, it doesn’t seem to have the ease of adjustment as newer models, but it would work great for a singular task such as notching.

Thanks!

I have one that I use as my daily driver drill press. It may not at all the features of a newer one, but I've yet to find a task that it can't handle.

If it were mine I would disassemble it into it's main component pieces and take them out to the driveway and spray it down with simple green and degrease it as best I could before using a green scouring pad on the unpainted surfaces (just a plastic brush on the painted surfaces. I'd then coat the painted parts with BLO (boiled linseed oil) and let them dry up nicely. I would sand/polish the table surfaces and the column. I also suggest you pick up a 3 gal tub of Evaporust and use it to clean the chuck, depth gauge, and various other hardware. After you've de-rusted and scrubbed them clean, give them a coat of BLO as well to prevent rusting again. Lastly, after getting it back together I'd used a linked belt - much easier to put on and take off.

I did what I described, above to this Walker-Turner drill press and it looked much the same as yours when I purchased it.

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I will source some BLO and get after it!

I keep a rust bath around for just these scenarios, works great.

Thank you!


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I will source some BLO and get after it!

I keep a rust bath around for just these scenarios, works great.

Thank you!


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No problem.

Be careful with putting any of the painted parts in Evap-o-rust or an E-Tank, it will strip the paint right off.

If you want to keep the original paint, your best bet is a mild de-greaser like I mentioned above, with a stiff bristle plastic brush and/or warm to hot water.

Also, I didn't mention it, because I don't know how deep you want to get into it - "refurbishing" vs "restoring", but it would be a very good plan to take out the quill and clean all the old grease and gunk off with a bucket of kerosene and a brush and re-grease the bearings with fresh grease - it could almost certainly use it. :beer:
 

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Here are a few of my restored atlas

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Beautiful Atlas!!
You have pushed me over the edge to rehab my table top Atlas 42.
Question:
How did you remove and refit the Atlas tag? Is that polished/repainted?
What color machine gray is that paint? Fantastic color!
 

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Show us your cool, "old" drill press

Here are a few of my restored atlas

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This looks amazing. Storing a Buffalo No15 bench top with a MT2 spindle at my dad’s shop until I get mine a little further along and I can start the refurb. This is the level I hope to reach. [emoji1303]

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Finally got some pics of my delta... I’m not sure I can eat through that rust effectively but I haven’t started yet, hoping it isn’t as pitted as it looks:

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Finally got some pics of my delta... I’m not sure I can eat through that rust effectively but I haven’t started yet, hoping it isn’t as pitted as it looks:

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Nice score! Your new unit is completely intact, push/pull rod, original switch, Delta motor with condom, depth indicator, even the spacer between the nuts on the depth stop.

Yes, electrolysis is your friend, as is evap-o-rust, but hey, you have a beauty there. Lots of decal art available at owwm.com. Just take your time and have some fun!

Keep us posted!

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Finally got some pics of my delta... I’m not sure I can eat through that rust effectively but I haven’t started yet, hoping it isn’t as pitted as it looks:

Krang,

You can do it...I've tackled worse and they come out looking great. As Isaiah mentions above - you're going to need to learn about electrolysis. Don't worry, it's absolutely easy as can be. Don't let the technical type info scare you away from doing it, super easy and works wonders.

Little tip - Use electrolysis for all the big stuff, the drill head, table, base, etc. But buy yourself a gallon (or 3 gallon pail) of Evaporust for all the little bits and hardware. It's expensive, but it does last a long time if you are good about cleaning your rusty parts thoroughly to remove the grease and oils and loose rust. If you throw dirty stuff in there it shortens the life significantly. This is also true for the e-tank as well, in my opinion.

Your biggest challenge is going to be disassembly with that press - I'd suggest you just buy a can of PB Blaster (or your preferred penetrant) and spray all the hardware down every night for no less than a week straight before even trying to tackle it. Also, when you do finally get to the point where you are trying to remove the drill head and table, you'll save yourself a TON of heartache if you spend some time with a wire wheel on the column, knocking off all the loose rust before you start trying to slide anything up it. The table and head actually have pretty tight tolerances, so that extra rust is just going to act as a brake for any movement. If it were my press, I'd just take OD measurement of that column and see if Metal Supermarkets has a Cold-Rolled steel tube in that diameter (don't forget to get one with the right wall thickness, or something close). The reason I say that is that you will probably find that cleaning that column up will be the most labor intensive part of the restoration - it's really rusty and likely pitted pretty badly. So starting with a new one you can polish up will just save you a ton of heartache for about $70.

Lastly, regarding the data-tags. Knock the blind rivets out from the back with a punch, don't try to remove them with a chisel or you'll just destroy the tag. Last resort would be to place painter's tape around the tag and remove the head of the data tag with a dremel grinder, then just drill out and replace the blind rivets, either with new ones, or just a small machine screw once you re-tap them.

Good luck! :beer:
 

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Realistically, it would be easier and cheaper to buy a better drill press to start with. Thousands of those old Delta drill presses out there.
 

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Realistically, it would be easier and cheaper to buy a better drill press to start with. Thousands of those old Delta drill presses out there.

A lot less fun though. There is something about bringing something back from the dead that is extremely satisfying. The challenge, the skill-building, the hunt for missing or replacement parts for broken pieces, or even making replacement pieces, all leads to a great feeling of accomplishment. But you're right, starting with a "better" one would be easier, just less fun.
 

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A lot less fun though. There is something about bringing something back from the dead that is extremely satisfying. The challenge, the skill-building, the hunt for missing or replacement parts for broken pieces, or even making replacement pieces, all leads to a great feeling of accomplishment. But you're right, starting with a "better" one would be easier, just less fun.

I've owned quite a few old machines, and learned long ago it NOT fun to fight heavy rust, etc. when cleaning up something.

It's also Not rewarding, as the end product will still have apologies like rust pitting, etc. that take away from any sense of accomplishment.

Far better to find something in better condition to start with. Then you can have a truly nice machine to enjoy.

Life is too short to waste on projects with little or no return.
 

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Realistically, it would be easier and cheaper to buy a better drill press to start with. Thousands of those old Delta drill presses out there.



Oh, I already have a newer drill press that is quality. I enjoy restoring this older stuff, not a big fan of the throw away mentality (not that you were implying anything).


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My last restoration project was a WWII era industrial workbench:

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Beautiful!! What kind of vise is that? Nice vise too.:thumbup:
I like the rods that "beef up" the top too.
 

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