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[exp1orer]

Hi. I could use some advice. I'm building a new house with attached 24x25 garage and a connected 26x32 shop. I will attach a pic of the plan if I can. Both will have around 11 to 12 ft ceilings once the concrete is poured. Electrical is already done. Note the drawing is not to scale as the garage was expanded and the shop is 26ft wide (not 24). The garage and shop both have 18x9 garage doors on the front and the shop has a 10x9 door on the back.
The red rectangle on my drawing is a 4ft shelf at 8ft high. the blue rectangles are planned shop lights mounted to the 8ft high shelf above workbenches below. The yellow circles are the approximate locations for 4 lights in each garage. Could I make this any more confusing

I would like recommendations for the 8 garage lights and the 2 workbench lights.

Thanks!

Sorry for quoting my own thread but I'm hoping to get some advice on lights and I have limited amount of time. I have gone back page after page on this thread ( I can't read the whole thing) I guess I can source my own lights but I haven't seen anything regarding the length of a light to spread the light around and how garage doors impact that decision. I see a lot of people going with a 2ft light. However in my case I'm pre-wired for 4 fixtures in each garage. Can anyone advise if I should go with 2 ft, 4 ft or 8 ft? Based on what I have read, I'm leaning toward 4' 3-bulb. Should I go 8ft? Is that cost effective? Pattern suggestion? Ceilings are white and walls are medium grey, floor is normal concrete. I don't need it to look like clean room just need to park my stuff and tinker on my 79 International Scout.

Thanks in advance!

 

[Platonic Solid]

exp1orer - One criteria that defines the appropriate fixture is placement. Since I disagree with current placement I have no recommendation. To do this right, your space needs to be modeled. I have no time for this. If you search through my posts I'm sure I've done similar layouts. Another option is to contact Prolighting.com - they will recommend fixtures and provide a layout.

 

[Wallyman]

Has anyone tried these 8' replacements?

JESLED T8/T10/T12 8FT LED Tube Light Bulbs, R17D/HO Base, 72W 6000K Cool White, 7200LM, V Shaped LED Replacement for Fluorescent Fixtures,Clear, Dual-Ended Powered, Ballast Bypass (Pack of 25)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078JWQ4NZ/?tag=atomicindus08-20

100 lumens per watt, so energy hogs by comparison to some of the other options, but drop in replacement for my R17D fixture (doing ballast bypass only) and with my (9) dual bulb fixtures I'll get 130K lumens vs. the 154K lumens of the original F96T12 HO bulbs (which are now 5 years old so nowhere near as bright). Plus the 90 degree offset LED's are an interesting feature to spread the light.

Thoughts, opinions or reviews anyone?

 

[Platonic Solid]

Wallyman - Ask them for an IES file. While you're there ask for the UL, ETL or CSA certification. I suspect they'll respond with none of the above. 8ft HO fixtures are traditionally mounted higher than 10 feet, thus the "V" shape isn't ideal unless you're trying to light the walls. Also suggest using frosted lens.

 

[Wallyman]

Wallyman - Ask them for an IES file. While you're there ask for the UL, ETL or CSA certification. I suspect they'll respond with none of the above. 8ft HO fixtures are traditionally mounted higher than 10 feet, thus the "V" shape isn't ideal unless you're trying to light the walls. Also suggest using frosted lens.

I might as well ask them for their SS and CC numbers. I realize I'm off in the uncharted/unregulated spaces with this one, but the reviews look good for what I am trying to achieve. I did ask if anyone knew the actual angle of light output for the LEDs, got nothing.

Mine are at 9.5', and the V shape thing probably wouldn't benefit me as much. If they had them on a 45 instead of a 90 to each other I think it'd be a much more beneficial design, especially since I am running open bulb without reflectors. I'd love to try out a pair of bulbs but it's all in for 25 (yeah, case with an odd number.. that makes sense right?) so haven't pulled the trigger yet. This bulb would allow me to keep everything as is (R17 ends) and only bypass, which is a big plus in my book. Once I start adding in all the other facets of using the 4' bulbs these start to look appealing.

 

[BMWjunkie11]

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Yes, the title was meant to get you here. There are way too many threads about the exact same: “What light fixture should I buy for my garage?” question. Should you go LED or Fluorescent? Strip Light, recessed cans, screw-in bulbs of any flavor, … the options never end.

Disclaimer: I have been designing lighting products for over 30 years, primarily for the military and specialty markets. I do not design consumer grade residential lighting. Designing a 200 Lumen per watt fixture is easy, but not cost effective (yet). I have no affiliation with any company mentioned and I have nothing to gain by sharing my research. Everything stated is my opinion. I am human.

Typical Garage/Workshop Lamp options:

• Bare F54T5HO lamps produce too much glare when mounted below 15 feet. If you like them, put them in a wrap style or louvered fixture to cut down the glare.
• 400W Metal Halide can be quite efficient, but also produce too much glare when mounted below 15 feet. Additionally a 20,000 hr. 36,000 lumen 400W MH lamp will only produce 25,000 lumens after 8,000 hrs. = 30% light output loss.
• All T12 and T12HO Lamps should be considered obsolete. That doesn’t mean there aren’t some very efficient T12 options out there.
• Recessed Can type fixtures do not have the beam spread necessary to produce high lumen shadow free lighting unless you use a ridiculous amount of them.
• LED ballast-bypass 4ft retrofits are your best bang for the buck option. Long life, excellent efficiency and immediate full brightness in cold temperatures. Just be aware that there’s no shortage of no name Chinese LED bulbs and fixtures with questionable specifications and no third party certification.
• F32T8 Lamps are designed to be mounted below 20 feet and there’s quite a head spinning variety out there. Some are capable of lasting 84,000 hrs., providing 100+ lumens per watt and a reasonable 85 CRI.
• You can have higher CRI in both fluorescent and LED, but you will sacrifice efficiency and light output. I’m not going to address that here as the vast majority of people do not need CRI higher than 85 in their garage.

Here’s the original comparison spreadsheet, though as of this post edit (7/12/17) it's now almost 2 years old so all links and data are questionable: Lighting System Comparison. (I'll have to get around to making it mostly LED related.)

Here's an Excel viewer if you don't have Excel: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=10
Spreadsheet was created in Excel 2010 and has xlsx extension.
You can also open and edit in Google Sheets.

I know this is a couple months old, but I figured it's probably still valid. I'm looking to get the LUMEGEN LG-4T8-22WBB-SM50K bulbs with the Prolighting Housing, I assume they should work fine with one another? For a garage would be wiser to go with 3000k or 5000k? Is there a better light and housing combo from this list I should go with?

 

[Platonic Solid]

BMWjunkie11 - Yes, your combo suggestion will work fine. I haven't changed the list for a while as I haven't found any better values. 5000K is usually preferred for garage lighting.

 

[BMWjunkie11]

BMWjunkie11 - Yes, your combo suggestion will work fine. I haven't changed the list for a while as I haven't found any better values. 5000K is usually preferred for garage lighting.

Thank you very much, that write up was very helpful, especially for a guy like me who is very naive when it comes to lighting.

 

[nsula_country]

Has anyone tried these 8' replacements?

JESLED T8/T10/T12 8FT LED Tube Light Bulbs, R17D/HO Base, 72W 6000K Cool White, 7200LM, V Shaped LED Replacement for Fluorescent Fixtures,Clear, Dual-Ended Powered, Ballast Bypass (Pack of 25)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078JWQ4NZ/?tag=atomicindus08-20

100 lumens per watt, so energy hogs by comparison to some of the other options, but drop in replacement for my R17D fixture (doing ballast bypass only) and with my (9) dual bulb fixtures I'll get 130K lumens vs. the 154K lumens of the original F96T12 HO bulbs (which are now 5 years old so nowhere near as bright). Plus the 90 degree offset LED's are an interesting feature to spread the light.

Thoughts, opinions or reviews anyone?

Glad to see someone testing the 8' LED. Direct fit is easier. Most 8' LED kits require converting to a 4 lamp tandem. We have 8' HO at Dad's shop, thinking about something like this.

CT

 

[SLAYER6669]

I am in the process of redoing my entire garage. Interior dimensions appear to be around 35' wide x 27' depth x 9'8" high ceiling. I am mostly finished repainting in a medium/light grey. The garage is basically used for working on cars.

The current lighting setup has six 8' fixtures with two 95 watt florescent bulbs in each for a total of twelve 8' 95w bulbs. One of the fixtures has dead bulbs and another one I replaced the bulbs with 110w from Lowes a while back because that was all I could find at the time. That fixture has been inconsistent in lighting up properly (ballast?). When all fixtures are fully lit, there was always plenty of light, but the walls are darker now.

I'll admit I don't have much experience with home wiring, but I'd like to try to convert over to LED bulbs and do this myself, mainly to cut down on electricity usage. I'd like to if possible, only reuse the existing wiring without having to run anything new. Can anyone give me a recommendation on how many fixtures/bulbs that would best suit the space? I would think I'd be looking at 5000k bulbs, correct?

Thanks for reading

 

[blackdog315]

word to the wise from the LED Inexperienced. I purchased 30-8' 17d/HO base, if I remember correctly 34 watt, single row LED in February of this year. they were purchased from an online place called DHgate. 30 bulbs were $300.00 with free shipping.
I only need 18 for my 30 x 36 shop, so I had 12 spares.
right from the get go one did not work, now 7 months later I have 6 others that do not work and 2 that go on and off whenever they feel like it. I have taken one apart and there is a small printed circuit board with a few diodes and other electrical framuses [ framus is a highly technical term for **** I don't know what im looking at]. there is a spot that is burnt that I can only assume is the problem.
on a side note they are very bright. but along way from the 50,000 hour rating. I am in my shop daily for around 8-10 hours that would be a little over 2100 hours useage.

 

[apx2]

Just ordered the Maxlite LSS2XT8USE4803, fixture is ok but it should be noted that they are not wide enough to cover standard round junction boxes.

 

[CleanSC]

right from the get go one did not work, now 7 months later I have 6 others that do not work and 2 that go on and off whenever they feel like it.

This is one of the issues that has me gunshy of blowing $1,000 on chinese goods. I've been watching this thread for 3 years.

They love to say it's got a lifespan of however many thousands of hours. In my experience, that's all been complete horse feces.

From standard led bulbs and beyond they always burn out within the year when the label says it's good for 22. I've been burned more times than I care to admit unless I buy VERY expensive American brand hardware.

So how does one know they are investing in a good system that will last?

 

[Platonic Solid]

CleanSC - To date we've had 1 poster with 1 DOA Greentek linear LED fixture and 1 poster with 2 DOA Greentek bulbs. Both issues were resolved quickly by the retailers. 0 complaints thus far of premature fixture/lamp failures of those recommended for the layouts I've done for GJ members. I just placed an order for 1200 GLLUSA bulbs. If you've been burned with quality deficient bulbs, please share specifics so we know what to avoid. If they're non-NRTL certified Amazon or eBay bulbs then that's the gamble you take.

 

[CleanSC]

PS, first off to be clear, this was never a dig at you, in fact, I commend you immensely for what you've done in this thread for the past three years. Just wanted to always tell you that.

Secondly, my experience is not with any of the bulbs listed here. It's past purchases with other name brand (expensive) LED products around the house that have colored my view on this. I was simply projecting my fear to these bulbs. Admittedly it's unfair but again it's just a fear.

If the general consensus is that these are certified and built to a different standard then fine, the fear is lessened. But they are still unproven. Who's to say how these are 5 or 10 years down the line?

With an investment of this size, one would like to be confident that they are going to last.

At least it's good to see the few with issues were sorted.

 

[Platonic Solid]

Around the house I jumped to cheapo Walmart screw-base LED bulbs that were offered with instant utility rebate after getting burned on expensive Philips and Cree bulbs. To be fair, this was several years ago. The Cree bulbs started oozing potting compound inside the bulb (mounted base up). Now that I think of it, since the Walmart purchase, I haven't replaced an LED screw-base bulb at home in a good 3 years.

If I needed fixtures for a shop today, I wouldn't hesitate to buy any of the several linear highbays or retrofit bulbs discussed here.

 

[GRB]

I installed almost 90 8' T8 replacement LED from Carson Lighting. About half have been in 2 years plus. Have had no failures.
I tried a variety of different 4' replacements installing 4 of each brand/type. I have had at least one of the four fail for all but one. The biggest failures have been the higher wattage bulbs, 22w & 24w. These were all in troffers or wrap fixtures so none in free air.

All used 10-13 hours per day 5 days a week plus 5-15 hours on weekends.

Of course the Carsons that don't fail all came from my local lighting supplier a mile away and all the ones that fail came from various mail order people.

I can tell you that I didn't buy any of the brands listed by Platonic Solid in the first post here. I can also tell you the stuff at Home Depot & Lowes failed the fastest folowed by the ones from Costco and Sams Club. One of the one from HD had 4/4 failures in the first year or so.

 

[Wallyman]

I installed almost 90 8' T8 replacement LED from Carson Lighting.

Any specs on those that you had good luck with? LM, color temp, watts, etc.?

I'm looking to relamp my hobby shop away from T12 96HOs but at a minimum investment of $350 (which could buy all kinds of fun car parts), I want to not toss money down a hole. So, any details you give would be helpful!

 

[GRB]

Any specs on those that you had good luck with? LM, color temp, watts, etc.?

I'm looking to relamp my hobby shop away from T12 96HOs but at a minimum investment of $350 (which could buy all kinds of fun car parts), I want to not toss money down a hole. So, any details you give would be helpful!

Their website is www.carsontechnology.com. I don't know about availablity as I buy them from a wholesale lighting place a mile from me.

I've bought the Frosted T-8 36w bulbs, which only come in pin end style so if you have HO bulbs, you would need to change the tombstones. They only come in boxes of 30. Both my supplier and Carson seem to try to charge too much for these to anyone but their big customers so the price could be an issue. Each time I have bought something like that from my supplier, I have to have them look up my account and see how much I bought before.

Carson has T-12 HO direct replacements that are 48w and 360 degree distribution with clear lenses. These are clearly for the outside sign trade.

 

[mp333]

Hello PS. Looking to add 8ft LED lighting in my three car garage. Primarily in the bay with the four post car lift. I am looking at T8 LED 7400w fixtures from Amazon. Each bay is 12Wx11Hx24L. Each bay is separated by 2ft support beam. I am planning to install six 8ft fixture lights against the ceiling along the edge of each ceiling bay. Two inline on each side and one front & rear of the garage. The other two bay would have two 4ft units in each bay.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CMM4V5F/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Any feedback would be appreciated.
Thank you

 

[Platonic Solid]

mp333 - Only a proper layout simulation can answer your question, which requires an IES file. Not that I have time for that anyway, but I wouldn't purchase non NRTL fixtures.

Note customer question section:
Question: Are these ul or csa listed?
Answer: Dear Customer , they are not ul or csa listed . Thanks
By YKUNLED Seller on September 18, 2018

 

[mp333]

Thanks PS. What would you recommend in similar form factor. I like the idea of a strip of light that goes around the car lift for even distribution.

 

[Platonic Solid]

Thanks PS. What would you recommend in similar form factor. I like the idea of a strip of light that goes around the car lift for even distribution.

I recently did a layout with similar ceiling height here:

69XR7 - Rather than play the inevitable 20 questions game, here are both options:

69XR7 2-Lamp 5300Lm.pdf

69XR7 3-Lamp 8000Lm.pdf

69XR7 has a 12ft tray and 11ft perimeter ceiling, but that has little effect on the layout as most of the fixtures are on the 11ft plane.

 

[mouthlol]

Just wanted to say thank you Platonic Solid, we will order 20 of those 2 bulbs fixture. The 7% coupon is always nice!

 

[JeremiahTRD]

Platonic Help !!!!

I've got a new commercial steel building that needs some lights!

The building is a 50' x 100' with 16 feet eave height.
The entire walls and ceilings will be painted with a semi gloss white paint for reflectivity.

I like a lot of light more than most people.
My wife wears sunglasses inside my garage at the house!

My electrician has proposed a 2'x4' led ready fixture with reflectors that will hold 6 led tubes each. Mounted Approx 15 feet high

I was roughly thinking 15 fixtures in 5 rows of 3 lights if that makes sense?

I don't know what kind of bulbs he is thinking?
Assuming we go with decent bulbs like the ones you mention in your edited first post.

Are we on the right track?

I see most people are using and recommending 2 bulb fixtures on this site?
So wondering why that is etc....

Any help is appreciated!

thanks

 

[Platonic Solid]

JeremiahTRD - 4x6 arrangement of 24,000 Lumen linear high bay like this one gives you 99 fc @ 30" work plane.

4x8 arrangement of 16,000 Lumen linear high bay like this one gives you 88 fc @ 30" work plane.

Paint shean for best reflectance: Flat white for ceilings and eggshell for walls.

 

[JeremiahTRD]

Thanks for your Help!

So curious why you recommend those type of LED Fixtures over the Led Bulbs in a
fluorescent fixture? When I read the recommendations on those high bay fixtures they say to mount them 20 to 30 feet off the ground and I were putting them at 15 feet?

So when they say 5 year warranty I assume that means if they stop working you get a replacement fixture?

As I understand it the entire fixture would go out vs the tube leds where you would still have light from the other bulbs?

I'm sure you know what your doing not questioning you just curious or you recommendation.

Is it based on cost ? Or Performance?

thanks again

 

[Platonic Solid]

JeremiahTRD - You said you wanted alot of light so I defaulted to the recommended 93fc @ work plane for standard mechanical shop.

You'd get similar performance from 6 lamp LED retrofit fixtures assuming 2600 Lm bulbs which puts you in the 4x8 arrangement = 32 fixtures (192 bulbs). If you prefer individual lamps that's fine. I expect it will cost more.

The fixtures I linked to have the option of dimming and are likely lower cost on a lumens per dollar basis. My calcs are based on 16ft mounting. 15ft will increase the fc @ work plane slightly.

You'll have to ask the distributor exactly what the warranty means.

Yes, as you point out, there are benefits to going the retrofit tube route. If the lamp dies you just replace it. That said, Linear highbay LED arrays aren't likely to die - the driver is what dies and that is replaceable.

You didn't mention what the purpose of the building is. I was just giving you a basic guideline to help you determine how many fixtures you'd need for a typical mechanical shop.

 

[JeremiahTRD]

Platonic, thanks again. Sorry to keep bothering you.

Have you or others here have good luck with those high bay fixtures you suggested?

The watts appear to be pretty close between both options does that translate to roughly

equal operating costs ?

I'm not sure this matters but I have 3 phase power.
Is there a light fixture setup etc.. that could be useful or advantage to use with 3 phase power?


Building is multipurpose, warehouse storage, fleet maintenance etc...

 

[Platonic Solid]

JeremiahTRD - Many GJ members have used linear high bays. To date one poster had one DOA fixture which was replaced by the distributor. No complaints so far.

The 2 fixtures I linked to are 143 Lm/W. There are 2 lamps on post 1 that are similar @ 140 Lm/W and 148 Lm/W. Thus operating costs are equivalent.

I am not an electrician. I know what I need to get by WRT light fixture design. There are several licensed electricians on this forum who can help you with your 3 phase power question (though you'll have to post a new thread as I don't think they spend much time in this lighting sticky).

Areas with tall warehouse rack shelving and isles may require different light fixtures or at least fixtures centered in the isles.

 

[hemiallen]

JeremiahTRD - 4x6 arrangement of 24,000 Lumen linear high bay like this one gives you 99 fc @ 30" work plane.

4x8 arrangement of 16,000 Lumen linear high bay like this one gives you 88 fc @ 30" work plane.

Paint shean for best reflectance: Flat white for ceilings and eggshell for walls.

I have the same basic shop, 50x90, and 14' doors so 15' light height is probably what I will do, though I have 20' eves amd plan on a second free standing story in some of the building.

Sorry, is the 4x6 arrangement vs 4x8 the spacing from walls/ each other?

Pouring the pad Monday, another month until the building arrives.

Thank you very much
Allen

 

[GrantOpus]

FYI

The Lumegen tubes that Platonic mentioned in the first post are discounted to $5.99 currently. Unfortunately only 3000K are available. I ordered 34 tubes (5000K) over the last month and contacted customer service at Lightup.com and was told the tubes have been dicontinued and my orders will be cancelled. You would think they would try and suggest another tube that they have in stock but they did not.


https://www.lightup.com/t8-4ft-led-tube-22w-ballast-bypass-50w-equiv-2640-lumens-lumegen.html

 

[Platonic Solid]

FYI

The Lumegen tubes that Platonic mentioned in the first post are discounted to $5.99 currently. Unfortunately only 3000K are available. I ordered 34 tubes (5000K) over the last month and contacted customer service at Lightup.com and was told the tubes have been dicontinued and my orders will be cancelled. You would think they would try and suggest another tube that they have in stock but they did not.


https://www.lightup.com/t8-4ft-led-tube-22w-ballast-bypass-50w-equiv-2640-lumens-lumegen.html

It only allows me to put Qty.4 of the 5000K in the shopping cart. I'll wait till their sale is over to change post 1. $5.99 for that bulb is quite a deal. You usually have to buy a pallet (1200+) to get that kind of pricing.

 

[GrantOpus]

That is how I ended up with 6 orders. I had qty of 8 and 4 and 2 etc. whatever the website would allow. But it seems that they won’t be fulfilling any of the orders and aren’t fixing the website. I was hoping i would get lucky but it doesn’t seem that way.


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[PaTruck87]

FYI
.........was told the tubes have been dicontinued and my orders will be cancelled. You would think they would try and suggest another tube that they have in stock but they did not.

I was given the same email as you late last week, with no lead on what to get instead either. I am thinking I will go with LG-4T8-18W-BB1-30K instead (I cant post links yet, under five posts). They also have a 15% off sale going on for bulbs, so I was gonna do that for 10 bulbs. Also, what do you all think of their fixtures? Mainly looking at MX464A-LT4X2 (has opal lens) or MX452A-LT4X2 (no lens)

 

[GRB]

Has anyone tried these 8' replacements?

JESLED T8/T10/T12 8FT LED Tube Light Bulbs, R17D/HO Base, 72W 6000K Cool White, 7200LM, V Shaped LED Replacement for Fluorescent Fixtures,Clear, Dual-Ended Powered, Ballast Bypass (Pack of 25)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078JWQ4NZ/?tag=atomicindus08-20

100 lumens per watt, so energy hogs by comparison to some of the other options, but drop in replacement for my R17D fixture (doing ballast bypass only) and with my (9) dual bulb fixtures I'll get 130K lumens vs. the 154K lumens of the original F96T12 HO bulbs (which are now 5 years old so nowhere near as bright). Plus the 90 degree offset LED's are an interesting feature to spread the light.

Thoughts, opinions or reviews anyone?

90 degree offset LED would be wonderful to spread the light out if you are mounting at 8-10'. Problem is that with a clear lens and two rows at 36w per row, they will be horribly blinding to look at. If these were 1.5" diameter and frosted they would be wonderful for 8-10' mounting height. I find my 1" diameter 36w single row and frosted lens a bit much at 9' if you are in line with a row.

Big problem is no name cheap Chinese **** from an unknown seller that will be gone when the warranties start. So I'm just lamenting that a good seller doesn't use some of this idea in their products. I see a lot of Chinese manufacturers making something of a design that make no sense. If they can't design something correctly for a real use, how can they make it correctly?

 

[GrantOpus]

I was given the same email as you late last week, with no lead on what to get instead either. I am thinking I will go with LG-4T8-18W-BB1-30K instead (I cant post links yet, under five posts). They also have a 15% off sale going on for bulbs, so I was gonna do that for 10 bulbs. Also, we do you all think of their fixtures? Mainly looking at MX464A-LT4X2 (has opal lens) or MX452A-LT4X2 (no lens)

I think these are the tubes you mention.

https://www.lightup.com/t8-led-4ft-...ed-power-replaces-f32t8-fo32-2200-lumens.html


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[PaTruck87]

I think these are the tubes you mention.

Correct. I just ordered 10 of them with the 15% off (Code is PANELSANDTUBES) because it expires today. Hopefully they are a good replacement for the ones that they discontinued. Still need to figure out which fixture to get:

MX464A-LT4X2 (has opal lens)
MX452A-LT4X2 (no lens)
Maxlite LSS2XT8USE4803 (no lens)

 

[GrantOpus]

I went with this fixture. But I honestly haven’t even opened the box yet.

https://www.beeslighting.com/maxlite-led-ready-fixture/p/LSS2XT8USE4803


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[GrantOpus]

Correct. I just ordered 10 of them with the 15% off (Code is PANELSANDTUBES) because it expires today. Hopefully they are a good replacement for the ones that they discontinued. Still need to figure out which fixture to get:



MX464A-LT4X2 (has opal lens)

MX452A-LT4X2 (no lens)

Maxlite LSS2XT8USE4803 (no lens)

I just ordered the same tubes you did. We will see if the ship.


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