Lets make an all vintage Snap-on tool picture thread!

[LesserSon]

Forged Steel Products ? No model number, no date code.

I think FSP. That grip pattern is not very different (it looks a bit more like tire treads) from the grip pattern on [raftsman dykes and pliers, early versions of which I believe were made by FSP, as Earl W. “Bill” Myers held the design patent, in addition to the Vacuum Grip design patent. Here’s what I wrote on a [RAFTSMAN thread.
I’m holding the Crafty pliers below a pair of ChannelLocks.

 

[LesserSon]

the little wrench has no factory marks, maybe some sort of ref wrench

I know several members responded to this post, but I wanted to add this otherwise general-purpose Utica pliers image to show how common those acetylene valves must have been. Before battery lamps on vehicles and rural electrification, carbide lamps were ubiquitous, definitely not restricted to mines and caves. Cutting/welding torches probably not the main use for these wrenches.
Somewhere I have a Prestolite wrench that looks even more like the one S-mom posted.
Update: Ah, here it is. Note that the logo underline of the top wrench is straight. Because the edges are rounded, I think it is older.

 

[Farmer J.]

I think the little wrench is for oxy/acetylene bottles. The valve stem especially on older bottles often didn't have a wheel and you needed a wrench. Maybe the newer ones sometimes don't have wheels been a while since I've played with oxy/acetylene.

Been a while since I played with gas bottles too, but to me that looks exactly like a double ended version of an oxy/acetylene bottle wrench.

Known as a 'Gas Cylinder Key', this one for welding bottles has a 9/32" square drive.

It's often forgotten how common the carbide lamps were, I remember throwing a heap of them in the scrap when clearing out a shed in the 1970's! I still have 2 of the special little wrenches though.

 

[Farmer J.]

Maybe not - but it has an awesome classic script Ford logo!!! Those are sweet dykes!

'Dykes'? Never heard of side cutting pliers being called that before! The word can have a very different meaning this side of the Atlantic, and not usually complimentary.

 

[snapmom]

'Dykes'? Never heard of side cutting pliers being called that before! The word can have a very different meaning this side of the Atlantic, and not usually complimentary.

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Aug 12, 2008 · They are actually "diagonal side cutting pliers", basically wire cutters. "Diagonal" is shortened to "diags" which then gets pronounced (or mis-pronounced) as "dykes" I

 

[Farmer J.]

answers.yahoo.com › … › Boats & Boating › Next

Aug 12, 2008 · They are actually "diagonal side cutting pliers", basically wire cutters. "Diagonal" is shortened to "diags" which then gets pronounced (or mis-pronounced) as "dykes" I

Ah, thank you for that explanation, I was wondering... This must be yet another example of differences between American and English language.

Here, in the Cambridge Dictionary it says:
1. Noun (wall) Wall to prevent sea or river covering an area, or ditch dug to take water away.
2.Slang, a Lesbian, Noun . (woman) Many people consider this word offensive.

I don't wish to offend anyone so am careful where I use the word.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

This must be yet another example of differences between American and English language.

It would be an extremely esoteric and "street" or slang language difference, peculiar to American mechanics or electricians or tool collectors only, Farmer J. Dictionaries published here in the US have the same primary and secondary formal definitions as the Cambridge for a word spelled that way. EDIT: Despite it not appearing in dictionaries, if you go to eBay and type "**** pliers" (or "dike pliers") into the search bar you will get pages and pages of diagonal side-cutting pliers, trust me. Descriptivism at work over prescriptivism.

 

[Farmer J.]

It would be an extremely esoteric and "street" or slang language difference, peculiar to American mechanics or electricians or tool collectors only, Farmer J. Dictionaries published here in the US have the same primary and secondary formal definitions as the Cambridge for a word spelled that way. EDIT: Despite it not appearing in dictionaries, if you go to eBay and type "**** pliers" (or "dike pliers") into the search bar you will get pages and pages of diagonal side-cutting pliers, trust me. Descriptivism at work over prescriptivism.

Thanks Lugz, that's interesting.
Just to try that, after I had finished my tea I put a search in to eBay uk here, and got only 3 results for 'dike pliers', all listings from USA. I got 147 results for '**** pliers', again all were listings from USA.
It seems they're just not described like that here... I've only ever heard them called 'side cutters' or 'side cutting pliers', as in "I say old chap, excuse me, but would you mind awfully if I borrowed those nice American side cutting pliers you have please?"....
I expect the American descriptivism will catch on here after a few years, most things usually do eventually.
I will ask a friend when he visits from Texas for Christmas, he is from here originally and a Land Rover mechanic, it will be something to have a laugh about for sure.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

it will be something to have a laugh about for sure.

I don't even given a second thought anymore, but yes, it is funny given its other usage.

 

[snapmom]

Spanner is a name we seldom use in the US. I think you have a different name for body hammers also.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Did not know they made one of these

 

[snapmom]

Sometimes I just get stumped. Blue Point ignition wrench, would probably date early 40s. No model number, just a 12 and 13 stamp for the size stamp. Measure 12/64 and 13/64.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Looks like a little engineers wrench

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Sometimes I just get stumped...[ ]...Measure 12/64 and 13/64.

You ain't the only one! Bizarre. I agree with Otg that it looks like a J- series (miniature engrs) wrench, not a C- series (with the 60* angle) ignition wrench. The 13/64" opening makes sense in terms of ignition wrench service openings, but Snap-on did not make a Blue-Point C- or J- series wrench with a 13/64" opening. They did make a 3/16" (12/64") J-series opening. The odd opening size pairing and the odd marking goes along with it being probably special contract. ?

 

[RagTopTA]

Found these at the Flea market today while diggin through old tool boxes.

 

[snapmom]

Blue Point AT-8054 line wrench. Has a 45 code. No name. Belongs to one of the Merlin Rolls Royce engine kits. Odd one, about 4-1/2 inches long. 3/8W. Hard to find.

 

[Mark914]

A few of my old snap on bits. Nothing too special , sockets from ‘27-29, including a 5/8 Drive 15/16. A 20” long 1/2 extension, no date markings , and a old round head flex ratchet.

 

[Username already in use]

This 3/4" Bluepoint combo was too nice to leave behind at the flea. It's the only one I have and I'm not looking to start another set of combos...
I presume it's of wartime vintage but without a date code, who knows.

 

[snapmom]

It has the best probability of war time

 

[Private Lugnutz]

This was at my flea market this morning. TK-95/(?) military roll-up with all Snap-on black oxide tools. The sockets were in the little flap pocket. All 50's or later I reckon. I did not buy it. When I was snapping the photos the vendor, who was sitting in his truck to stay warm, started blowing his horn obnoxiously at me. He still didn't get out of his car to gesture at me, yelling through the window that I wasn't allowed to take photos of his stuff. I immediately knew it was the same ****** I had the same run-in with last year about a little toy iron cast cannon. I just laughed and said it was a public space and I could take pictures of any damn thing I wanted and if he didn't want me taking pictures he better put it in his truck. Needless to say I didn't ask him the price. Not my niche anyway.

 

[snapmom]

Never seen that set

 

[r_olson_06]

This was at my flea market this morning. TK-95/(?) military roll-up with all Snap-on black oxide tools. The sockets were in the little flap pocket. All 50's or later I reckon. I did not buy it. When I was snapping the photos the vendor, who was sitting in his truck to stay warm, started blowing his horn obnoxiously at me. He still didn't get out of his car to gesture at me, yelling through the window that I wasn't allowed to take photos of his stuff. I immediately knew it was the same ****** I had the same run-in with last year about a little toy iron cast cannon. I just laughed and said it was a public space and I could take pictures of any damn thing I wanted and if he didn't want me taking pictures he better put it in his truck. Needless to say I didn't ask him the price. Not my niche anyway.

Customer Service at it's finest.

Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrenches 3060, 3061, 3070

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Never seen that set

The nomenclature with the slash in it looks Signal Corps to me, R. But I can't find it in my records. I saw enough of the logos and part numbers to know it wasn't WWII before I decided to snap some shots for the group here. But, I am not sure it's a set, per se. Some of the wrenches are doubled up in pockets, which is a little weird. And stowing the sockets in a flap pocket is a little weird, too. But it is pretty convincing since it's all Snap-on, all military finish, in a roll-up.

Customer Service at it's finest.

Haha.

 

[toolmutt]

Never seen that set

That's because there were no known pictures of it until now.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

That's because there were no known pictures of it until now.

Haha. Good one.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I picked up some Snap-on and Blue-Point this morning at my flea market. The rest of the tools are soaking to de-rust. This is the only one that only needed a little WD-40, soft brush, and 0000 steel wool work to be immediately presentable.

Vacuum-Grip No. 380 battery pliers made by FSP at Newport, PA. I am a little puzzled on the date. The style of the "7" suggests 1947, but the placement of the marking and the style of the Snap-On logo looks early to me.

The markings on both sides are exceptionally deep and crisp.

 

[tin medic]

It's possible it was old stock that made it to 47 before leaving the warehouse. The script looks old enough to not have received a date stamp and we've seen a lot of wartime dual date code pieces to know that stuff with 39, 40 & 41 date codes also have 44 & 45 date codes along side or stamped over.

 

[dkroth]

Here are my VacuumGrip. Even with the soft focus pretty obvious these are '46.

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[Private Lugnutz]

Thanks, dk. Markings identical. I guess they just used an early logo style on the pliers. It's much different than the drive tools and other things in those years.

 

[3baygarage]

Some early sockets that came in a lot.

The extension, flex socket, and drag link are “-7” for ‘27, though the dash on the drag link is on the wrong side like so “7-“. My question, does the top row of sockets match for ‘27 ? They don’t appear to have a date.

Second row:
-an S over O overstrike logo,
-perhaps a Ford 21/32” connecting rod socket ?,
-two hex drive 12point valve adjusting wrench sockets. I had to think about these for a minute, then remembered removing some off the tools before.
- a different Snap On logo. Might be similar to one you all were comparing

 

[3baygarage]

Pics

 

[Stuart in MN]

An estate sale ad today promised tons of tools. There were a lot of them but almost all were Harbor Freight or equal. However, in the piles I did find this pair of Snap-On Vacuum Grip HCP-48 hose clamp pliers. They need some derusting, but for 50 cents I figured I couldn't go wrong.

I haven't found a date code on them yet, though. Any guesses on age?

 

[r_olson_06]

An estate sale ad today promised tons of tools. There were a lot of them but almost all were Harbor Freight or equal. However, in the piles I did find this pair of Snap-On Vacuum Grip HCP-48 hose clamp pliers. They need some derusting, but for 50 cents I figured I couldn't go wrong.

I haven't found a date code on them yet, though. Any guesses on age?

Check on the inside of the handles for a date code.

Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrenches 3060, 3061, 3070

 

[Stuart in MN]

Check on the inside of the handles for a date code.

Thanks! I found it, although it's difficult to decipher.

According to the collecting Snap-On website it appears the HCP-48 was introduced in 1953, and was replaced by the HCP-48A in 1958.

The date code stamp looks like 1954 but I'll have to get out my magnifying glass to confirm that.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

The rest of my Friday flea market haul...

...cleaned up nicely.

Besides the battery pliers, which I just showed a few posts back, the Snap-on pieces in there included a K4 Speeder (no date code), a Ferret F-4-D speeder (date code illegible, could be a rare 1943 "3"), an S-12 10" Extension with a 1944 ("E") date code, and a pair of combination wrenches from two different production eras.

The owner's marks ("L A") are unfortunate, but not deep, and I must say, Larry or Lenny or Lex or whatever his name was had good taste. The other tools in the lot, also marked "L A", and all the same vintage (1930's and 40's), were Plomb and Cornwell.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Here are those OEX's. Kind of neat how they're a study in styles. Stamped vs forged in markings. Opening size on the face of the open end jaw vs flanking the brand marking. Full COO vs simple "US". And I could be wrong, but I believe the -26 is a 1942, which I don't see too often.

 

[snapmom]

A No. 32 extension. 34 code. 3/4 dr

 

[snapmom]

A 11 piece, 9/32 drive whitworth socket set. not sure if this is a complete set, most of the cats show a 9 pc set. this set WM90-WM99. I need to replace the WM93. so will trade if you have one.

 

[LesserSon]

Picked up an HS-8 Blue-Point hacksaw today. (6pt S overstrike O socket, too!)
Wilbur P Peterson (of Kansas City MO) design patent from 31Jul1945.
One scale has two small splits on the edge. Both scales are color-faded on outside, missing one saw-screw (and of course, different from any spare I have lying around). The pressed-steel wingnut CANNOT be original, so I’ll be replacing that. Three-position frame 8” 10” 12”.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

A 11 piece, 9/32 drive whitworth socket set. not sure if this is a complete set, most of the cats show a 9 pc set. this set WM90-WM99. I need to replace the WM93. so will trade if you have one.

Wow