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No doubt you will get there Andy:thumbup:

No doubt. But the path is not yet established. However I am learning.

I’ve been provided the same feedback....numerous times. This past few months I’ve decided to get off the insanity train. Now I keep my recommendations to myself and silently say, “have fun”.

Andy, hamburgers, mash potato and corn! I might need to reroute my tour to where I stop at your place every other stop.


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Andy your casting skills are honing. I can't wait until you start casting iron. I have lots of things for you to practice on. Elf a vator! You missed your calling; should have been a first grade teacher; or maybe written children's books?
 

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...Unfortunately, one truism I have come to believe is that those who are technically weak and have to guess at proper solutions don't know that everyone is not like them. They think everyone is guessing, so when they are faced with a tough decision they can't trust their advisors...

Well said Andy, there is a lot of truth in that statement.
 

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Andy: looks like you are going bigger and brass too so best of luck with that.

that day with your wife's friend stopping by sounds like a good day and also made me hungry. you as good at cooking food as you are metal?

just checking in cause I think it's SATURDAY!!

oh ya I bet having to report to a boss or his boss or have somebody tell you what they don't know would be frustrating. sadly I rarely had that experience in my career, but I certainly wasn't right all the time and i'm still learning.

cheers
 
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EDIT: Never mind, wasn't thinking before I started tapping keys.

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What? We're supposed to think first? Oh no, I'm way out of line. Where are the rules?

Andy your casting skills are honing. I can't wait until you start casting iron. I have lots of things for you to practice on. Elf a vator! You missed your calling; should have been a first grade teacher; or maybe written children's books?

Thanks, Bobby! I have no way to go but up :)

It will be a couple of years before I look at casting iron. I've still got a lot to learn aobut aluminum and the copper alloys.

I tried to get on with Laffy Taffy...

Well said Andy, there is a lot of truth in that statement.

It helps when you realize the guy who is making illogical statements doesn't realize he's the one who is out of step.

Andy: looks like you are going bigger and brass too so best of luck with that.

that day with your wife's friend stopping by sounds like a good day and also made me hungry. you as good at cooking food as you are metal?

just checking in cause I think it's SATURDAY!!

oh ya I bet having to report to a boss or his boss or have somebody tell you what they don't know would be frustrating. sadly I rarely had that experience in my career, but I certainly wasn't right all the time and i'm still learning.

cheers

We had a good day. My wife and the friend are both great cooks. I had never entered the kitchen except for maintenance until my wife got sick. Both of them enjoyed the meal immensely, especially since I had fixed it and they both believe me to be a culinary idiot. Now, it's not too hard to cook hamburgers and warm up corn and carrots. My secret weapon is brown sugar on the carrots.:lol_hitti However I did boil the potatoes and mashed them into smooth mashed potatoes which surprised her friend. All in all it was great fun.

Andy, looking forward to see how you solve your casting problem

Dwight

Not solved yet. But I did make some progress. I put a longer bolt in the core of the pattern, made a plywood washer, and managed to keep it together.

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The pattern stayed on the cope

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I was able to tap and vibrate it to get the pattern off with minimal damage to the mold sand.

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However I didn't get the metal hot enough. It barely started filling the mold.

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But at least when I cut it apart it had no visible porosity.

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Late in the day I went back and tried again. Got a good mold and got the metal hot. But it still did not fill.

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It did not fill the base, and did not fill up the mold (laying on it's side, top is toward the camera). It froze while I was feeding it so having nothing to lose I poured the extra metal in the riser. So there is a cold shut where the metal poured from the top met the metal from the bottom, that's the diagonal line.

Going to have to figure out how to feed it from an additional elevation, and maybe thicken the piece. It's 1/4" thick right now.

Stay tuned!
 

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:lol_hitti I'm well aware of The Peter Principle, which basically says you will be promoted if you're doing a good job so when you finally get to a level you can't do you no longer get promoted. So you work at your level of incompetency. I agree with your take on it, and it is true some people do better at a higher level than they did at the lower level. Also someone who is liked may be promoted in hopes they will do less damage at a higher level.:lol_hitti
By Deus, this was the entire leadership strategy at my last job. Except that the incompetent/backstabbing folks they promoted did an even *worse* job at their new level.

Part of the reason why I left--plus the new job has better pay, better hours, and better benefits...
 

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We call it a hobby, but the addiction to melting metal at home is really a personality aberration. You can't cure it, and you think everyone wants to do it, but it's only the weirdo's. You think it's OK because your wife does not complain but she knows complaining would be like complaining to a sailor that he is going back to sea. He can't help himself.

Let's fire up that furnace!!

Cheers!:beer:

I think it's hardly an addiction. Without you, where else would we obtain hand-poured objects that previously lived a different life? Unfortunately, very few of us have access to a fuel tank close to the sizes you have on your compound. :thumbup: Is it hammertime yet? :headscrat
 
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By Deus, this was the entire leadership strategy at my last job. Except that the incompetent/backstabbing folks they promoted did an even *worse* job at their new level.

Part of the reason why I left--plus the new job has better pay, better hours, and better benefits...

Sadly, it is often that from upper management's point of view, the people we see as worst are viewed as valuable. There is undoubtedly truth on both sides. As jlbnut puts it, the cows are just over the moon when I show up to feed them. Not so much at work when you show up to help out.

Andy thats the fun bit - learning as you go..:thumbup:

I must be having lots of fun!

I think it's hardly an addiction. Without you, where else would we obtain hand-poured objects that previously lived a different life? Unfortunately, very few of us have access to a fuel tank close to the sizes you have on your compound. :thumbup: Is it hammertime yet? :headscrat

Hammertime hammertime ham, ham hammertime.

It is an addiction. Once you try it, it's hard to put down.

Most guys get by using standard 20 lb barbecue tanks, sometimes manifolding two or more. Or they just burn used motor oil to make heat. It's got a lot more energy per gallon than propane.

But I'm enjoying my disability.:bounce:
 

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Andy: are you giving the brass cone another try today? did the cows give you any good words of advice on how to do it? or maybe JB needs that aluminum support so you can go back to the metal you are quickly becoming an expert on?

carry on and always love watching ANDY'S ADVENTURES HERE ON GJ!!
 
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Andy: are you giving the brass cone another try today? did the cows give you any good words of advice on how to do it? or maybe JB needs that aluminum support so you can go back to the metal you are quickly becoming an expert on?

carry on and always love watching ANDY'S ADVENTURES HERE ON GJ!!

The cows have not been in the moo'd to give advice. With snow forecast for tomorrow I set them some hay out down hill from the barn at the edge of the woods. The trees give them some protection from the wind.

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Now the snow has been scrubbed from the forecast.

I'm doing some prep work on the cone and started on JB's crossmember. The ends are tilted about 4 degrees, but also angled and I want to match the existing.

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He did a nice job

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After thinking about it a little, I decided rather than measuring the crossmember I'd be better off replicating his mounts so I could fit the foam to the mounts. So I made two wooden blocks drilled and countersunk to bolt to the crossmember which could then be trimmed parallel to the transmission support plane.

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One of the holes almost missed the block. I made the blocks too small but lined them up on the outside to give the foam a reference point.

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As you can see none of the planes are parallel.

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So I shimmed the center of the support, and shimmed it away from the rip fence so the nuts would clear and I can trim the bottom of the blocks parallel with the top of the crossmember.

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More to come...
 

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After trimming the blocks off the top of the crossmember is parallel to the bottom of the blocks.

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The top of the crossmember is 1-13/16" above the bottom of the feet (and the new base) so after I fit foam to the blocks I can correctly place the center section to match the original.

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It should be easy sailing from here!
 

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Andy: your work on JB's support looks pretty good so far. keep up the great progress and i'm smelling the melting aluminum almost as i'm writing this.

so I'm wondering what your version of a BIG VISE is cause after i hung out on the vise threads for a couple years I'm guessing your version of BIG is a little different than my version of BIG VISE. (Reed 4c that weighs 178 pounds)

i'm still trying to find spot to put this one, but i have it's older brother in my parent's garage woodshop that should work nicely once I clean it up a bit and regrease it.

that smaller vise on my big old steel bench is a Reed 2c that has 5 inch wide jaws and weighs 82 pounds which probably is all the vise i really need, but bigger isn't too bad to own if you can. or is it?

Hope you enjoy your SATURDAY!
 

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Andy: your work on JB's support looks pretty good so far. keep up the great progress and i'm smelling the melting aluminum almost as i'm writing this.

Thanks, the tough part is done, now it's just finishing up.

so I'm wondering what your version of a BIG VISE is cause after i hung out on the vise threads for a couple years I'm guessing your version of BIG is a little different than my version of BIG VISE. (Reed 4c that weighs 178 pounds)

Those big old vises are really cool. I'm not sure there were ever many of them around here. Most of the heavy industry here is oilfield related and most of the parts are too big for a vise.

I guess my biggest vise is a 6-inch blacksmith pattern, but it really doesn't count because it's not mounted. I regularly use my old Craftsman 5" vises, and have had them since the '70's. They still work well after heavy use.

I really don't need a bigger vise since I mainly work on smaller stuff. Things that are too big for a five inch vise usually stays put when I'm working on it.

What do you use your vises for? Are they a collection like my tractors? I only have about six tractors I actually use.

i'm still trying to find spot to put this one, but i have it's older brother in my parent's garage woodshop that should work nicely once I clean it up a bit and regrease it.

that smaller vise on my big old steel bench is a Reed 2c that has 5 inch wide jaws and weighs 82 pounds which probably is all the vise i really need, but bigger isn't too bad to own if you can. or is it?

Hope you enjoy your SATURDAY!

You're right, bigger is better if you have room. I continually struggle with the room to work around my tools. I'm getting a 4 ft by 4 ft CNC plasma table and really don't know where I'm going to put it.

How do you get by without a caboose?

That is going to be a very nice cross member/trans mount.
Glad to hear the snow has not happened.

Thanks! No snow was great, but I had some office work to do today and didn't get a lot done in the shop.

Wow, it looks like Andy has a new business model - rapid castings. 1 day turnaround, if he feels like it {and you bring him Al}! :beer:

Rapid cast!! 1 month turnaround!!:rocker::rocker:

Oh, you said 1 day. Well, only if you come help. JB's not helping.

But I got a little done.

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Got the center section glued up and fit between the ears. I glued it in place with hot wax brushed onto the joints.

Made some bosses for the tapped holes. JB could use nuts, but the flanges set on the body mounts so there is not much load on the bolts.

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I've still got to make ribs between the center body and the bosses.

On the underside I made bosses incorporated with ribs for the transmission mounting hole locations.

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I've got a lot of smoothing to do, but we'll get there if the pattern will fill.

Thanks for stopping by, guys! I appreciate the visits!
 

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Andy: about 10 years ago i think I owned a Zyliss vise and a couple Wilton bullets and a Wilton Tradesman and then i found some pre WWII old vises that really reminded me of the days when my Gramps (old logger) took me to the repair shops and these old vises were on every bench.

I still don't really NEED a vise bigger than my 5 inch Wilton, but I probably own 20 vises that weigh over 100 pounds and I had more so scaling down. my favorite brands are Rock Island and Reed, but if I found a HUGE 250+ pound old pre WWII vise in decent shape I really wouldn't care which company in the USA made it. so I guess my vise, clamp and tool collections are somewhat like your tractors. here's a picture of a few of mine sitting on a pretty stout shelving unit in my bride's side of our 2 car garage.

oh and my bride will barely let me park my trailer in front of our house much less a CABOOSE so i'll have to let you win that contest and hope i get to see yours in person one day.

your fab work on JB'S brace is looking AMAZING and hope it turns out as you hope.

enjoy your REST day today and i'm not sure you know what that word means.
 

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Alas, you touched on a sore point. One of my joys in my younger days was walking through Sears tool department and dreaming of the tools I'd like to have. Then it got to where I would walk through and not see anything I wanted, only gadget tools were what I didn't have. You know, like the wire finger universal socket or the electric adjustable wrench. It was a sad time.:( Then they quit honoring Craftsman warranties:mad: so I just quit going and put them out of business.

Actually, what put them out of business was buying K-Mart.
You could always go into out K-Mart and find an empty store with good values. Then spend what seemed like four hours in one checkout line with 35 empty checkout lines and ten employees standing around the Service Desk ready to provide astonishing service should any customer require same. No, we just wanted to give them our money and they would not take it until we proved we really really wanted them to take out money. As with the Harvard School of Business corporate unification plan, after a takeover each company must adopt the worst practices of the legacy companies so as to make the legacy management feel better about why their company could not succeed on it's own. K-Mart didn't have a catalog, so Sears shed that (who will make money in this day and age shipping to homes?) and Sears didn't have astonishing customer service so they shed customer service so we would be astonished at how they provide no reasonable way to pay for your merchandise. I've even been so pissed I would walk to the service desk and ask whether anyone else could run a register, and in their surprise, would tell me, no, I can help you here (and then finish their conversation with their coworker about how bad management was before actually taking my money). I guess it kind of makes you feel like a ***** to take money for service.

Hmmm, did I say sore point?:dunno:



I'm glad I'm not the only one who was disoriented. But I guess moving from the Far East would always involve being dis-orient-ed. (hey!! it's free, you get what you pay for, you want good humor pay PB)



Thanks! I had lately been questioning my wisdom at putting in two doors, the west one had not been open since moving the desk in. But a little breeze on a hot day while slaving over a hot oven was grand.

Now if I can just clean up that one room my shop will practically be clean:thumbup:


It was K-Mart that bought Sears. For a while K-Mart was doing real well, although I always remember it almost exactly as you described it.
 
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Nice work on the pattern Andy. I like what you have done with the ribs and bosses..:thumbup::thumbup:

Thanks, Steve! Part of the fun of making your own castings is a little creative license. Unfortunately I seem to always be in too much of a hurry but for JB I'm trying to take my time and make something nice. We'll see whether it casts clean after all the work.

I'll help if you switch to Pepsi.

For a Farmall guy, you're not thinking too clearly. Are you sure you're not a Green guy in Red clothing?

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Andy: about 10 years ago i think I owned a Zyliss vise and a couple Wilton bullets and a Wilton Tradesman and then i found some pre WWII old vises that really reminded me of the days when my Gramps (old logger) took me to the repair shops and these old vises were on every bench.

I still don't really NEED a vise bigger than my 5 inch Wilton, but I probably own 20 vises that weigh over 100 pounds and I had more so scaling down. my favorite brands are Rock Island and Reed, but if I found a HUGE 250+ pound old pre WWII vise in decent shape I really wouldn't care which company in the USA made it. so I guess my vise, clamp and tool collections are somewhat like your tractors. here's a picture of a few of mine sitting on a pretty stout shelving unit in my bride's side of our 2 car garage.

oh and my bride will barely let me park my trailer in front of our house much less a CABOOSE so i'll have to let you win that contest and hope i get to see yours in person one day.

your fab work on JB'S brace is looking AMAZING and hope it turns out as you hope.

enjoy your REST day today and i'm not sure you know what that word means.

I was just funning you about the vises. We all collect what interests us. You should see my collection of Hall pottery.

Thanks on the cross member, I really hope it turns out too!

Watching with bated breath here Andy.

I'm hyperventilating.

The suspense is almost too much to handle !!!

We'll get there, eventually. Casting weather coming this week. Not real good Saturday, but the forecast was for real bad so I planned other things. An my well has quit and I have to pull it. I think the foot valve has come off or at least has come sand in it. I can't put enough water in it to prime it, shallow well jet pump.

It was K-Mart that bought Sears. For a while K-Mart was doing real well, although I always remember it almost exactly as you described it.

Sears has done just about everything wrong. When they moved all their registers to the aisles I thought it was the start.

Then the debacle of getting out of the catalog business just as internet shopping took off. All they had to do was put their catalog online, they already had the infrastructure to procure, warehouse, box and ship.

Then K-Mart. I can never tell who bought who, the surviving name usually tells it, with stock swaps it's a mystery, but they combined and true to form took the worst practices of each company. It became as hard to check out of Sears as K-Mart. We kept going back to K-Mart every year or so, thinking they couldn't really had the long lines as policy but apparently they did.

Sears should have bought Toys-R-Us last year.:lol_hitti
 

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The cross member is looking great Andy, I'm excited to see how it turns out. Funny that you mention the offsets on size and angles from side to side. I know the trans mount itself is off center compared to the trans center line for some reason. The difference in angle was probably because of my lack of extra hands. (Read shoddy workmanship on my part). I have no doubt it'll hold the trans up just fine and be a really cool conversation piece few people will ever see outside of our threads.

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Crikey! That funnel is a tough object to cast. Shapes like that is most often done by investment or die. Darn good challenge to figure out getting it to work in green sand. Looking forward to see how the cross member comes out too. The foam part is looking great already.

Otherwise hope all is well and you are just too busy having fun and talking to the cows. This is a time for family and social obligations. Definitely keeping me from the shed!
 
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Sears should have brought ToysRUs. lol
Ironic Sears basically invented Amazon a hundred years ago but they got out of order style sales.

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The level of strategic wisdom of Sears' management has now been confirmed.

The cross member is looking great Andy, I'm excited to see how it turns out. Funny that you mention the offsets on size and angles from side to side. I know the trans mount itself is off center compared to the trans center line for some reason. The difference in angle was probably because of my lack of extra hands. (Read shoddy workmanship on my part). I have no doubt it'll hold the trans up just fine and be a really cool conversation piece few people will ever see outside of our threads.

JB

I don't think it's shoddy workmanship, but my goal is to match the existing. I do hope you like the outcome. Maybe more work on it tomorrow, depending on weather (bad weather, work inside).

Andy: i think i'm smelling hot melted aluminum?

carry on and have a great day!!

Thanks, Drives, but it was brass.

Nah, I'm all red - but I'm also a Chevy guy, the peak combination.

Although ig you're pretty much an equal opportunity vehicle owner.

:lol_hitti:lol_hitti 55 of 60 tractors are IH here, so I guess I'm red.

4 out of 7 cars here are Chevys, so I guess I'm a Chevy guy.

But only 3 out of 12 trucks are Chevys, and 4 are Fords, how did that happen? 2 Dodges, a Studebaker, a Willys and a Binder.:lol_hitti

Crikey! That funnel is a tough object to cast. Shapes like that is most oven done by investment or die. Darn good challenge to figure out getting it to work in green sand. Looking forward to see how the cross member comes out too. The foam part is looking great already.

I'm figuring out it's a challenge. The shape is too long and parallel to withdraw the sand easily. I'm struggling with molding as well as casting.

The foam part has some more work to do, then I hope I can pour it, a failure there means another pattern.

Otherwise hope all is well and you are just too busy having fun and talking to the cows. This is a time for family and social obligations. Definitely keeping me from the shed!

All is well, thanks for the concern! Lot's of opportunities lately. I did make it to my son's 50th birthday party.

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That's my little Studekota Granddaughter. She is cool!:thumbup:

Back to the salt mine, err, foundry.

Here's damage to the core sustained removing the pattern. You can see the cracks in the sand at the top and a circumferential one at the bottom.

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I had a bolt through the sand but it was firmly stuck to the pattern. I even added a hole in the pattern to relieve vacuum and give me a window to press on the sand (that's what fractured the top).

I decided to go ahead and pour it, defects inside a cover are not that bad and I'm needing to get the heat right.

Well Bob!

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Part way through the pour the brass started running out the side of the flask. I hadn't weighted or clamped it before and had no problems. But I hadn't got this much molten metal in it and the hydrostatic force from the liquid metal floated the cope and let the hot stuff out.

As before I poured some of the rest of the charge into the riser hole. Casting does not look too bad for the portion that poured.

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The cracks at the bottom were not really a problem.

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Just a little brass bled in.

My well did quit the other day. I pulled the pipe this morning and found nothing.

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Really nothing. The jet and foot valve are still at the bottom of the well.

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And Mr. Genius didn't bother to put a safety rope on it the last time it was out. I don't know whether to try to fish it out or just leave it there. It will probably just stay in the well. The well is only used for watering cattle (and I don't have any penned up) and for the sink in the shop. Going without the sink for a few days is good penitence for not putting on a safety rope.
 

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Rain and wind forecast for tomorrow so instead of fixing the well I elected to make another brass casting. I was hustling to get done and didn't take many pictures. I can tell you the casting was nice and yellow inside with no visible defects.

I made a little disc of sheet metal to put in the bottom (top) of the pattern so after the sand is rammed in I can push against it with a rod and hold down on the sand while pulling up on the pattern.

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It worked, somewhat. I still cracked the core at the bottom but not much. I nicked the bore pulling the cope off.

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So there's a knot on the side where the bore was nicked. And there's a cold shut close to the top.

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The cold shut can be welded up, and the knot can be ground off. If my next casting has another cold shut I'll probably weld them both up and call it good. I heated the mold but maybe not enough. I had the metal hot, it was flashing lots of zinc as I was pouring.

Got done early enough to run to Pawnee and pick up my last ton of feed. I needed to get it out of the feed mill, and with rain coming in the cow lot may get too muddy to unload in for a while. Here's enough feed to last through late March.

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This is my second winter on the container. I still have no mice inside even though I leave the door open while I'm feeding. I had a discussion with someone about mice getting in and my contention is that mice get in through cracks, not when the door is open for a short time. The container really has no cracks.

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If all the seals are nice and tight (it should require a bit of effort to close it), it should keep the mice out.
They don't need a very large gap to get through - I watched a mouse run under a door without even slowing down (the mouse's body would have been about an inch high and the gap under the door was 3/8").


Each pour looks a bit better than the one before it (we won't count the blowout).

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Good job on the pour, I wasn't sure how you were going to solve that one it looked really tough to make a long thin casting like that.

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Andy: your will to win will overcome and I bet you will figure out how to make that brass bell like object to your liking.

I might have been the one to talk about field mice running into my rental house i had on 10 acres in the country 30 years ago cause if I'd leave the 2 car garage door up they'd run right in and crawl in the insulation. it might have been cause it was cold out or because I had a wild cat that used to hang around and keep me company that would eat the mice head first and almost in seconds.

looks like you got your exercise moving all that feed and i'm very happy you don't have mice in your cool container.

did you say 30 tractors? how many run or will run with a little work?

did you loan your granddaughter the Chevelle until you finish the Studadakota?

enjoy your day sir!!
 
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If all the seals are nice and tight (it should require a bit of effort to close it), it should keep the mice out.
They don't need a very large gap to get through - I watched a mouse run under a door without even slowing down (the mouse's body would have been about an inch high and the gap under the door was 3/8").


Each pour looks a bit better than the one before it (we won't count the blowout).

Sent from my SM-G950F using The Garage Journal mobile app

The seals are tight, in fact I had to cut off the upper door and door top as they were stiff and made it too hard to open. The lower door and door bottom are in place and it's mouse proof.

I think this last one may be ok. The cold shut looking cracks don't appear to be very deep.

Thanks for stopping by!

Good job on the pour, I wasn't sure how you were going to solve that one it looked really tough to make a long thin casting like that.

JB

The guys on the casting forum said piece of cake. My cake fell.

Andy: your will to win will overcome and I bet you will figure out how to make that brass bell like object to your liking.

I might have been the one to talk about field mice running into my rental house i had on 10 acres in the country 30 years ago cause if I'd leave the 2 car garage door up they'd run right in and crawl in the insulation. it might have been cause it was cold out or because I had a wild cat that used to hang around and keep me company that would eat the mice head first and almost in seconds.

looks like you got your exercise moving all that feed and i'm very happy you don't have mice in your cool container.

did you say 30 tractors? how many run or will run with a little work?

did you loan your granddaughter the Chevelle until you finish the Studadakota?

enjoy your day sir!!

Getting there on the casting.:bounce:

Yeah, I think we were discussing whether the door open or the cracks under the door were the issue. I believe it's the small cracks they can squeeze through. My doors are open plenty and there's fresh feed inside so it smells delightful. But they still aren't getting in.

I said 60 tractors. All of them ran once. Most of them with a little work. About ten ready to go.

Nope, Chevelle is staying here. :pimpflash

Thanks for the visit!

They're mostly Farmalls so they'll probably all run with "just a little" work! :beer:

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With fresh gas and a charged battery they'll start even after a 20yr nap.

:bounce: It's amazing. After few years you may need to polish the points. And maybe not.

Thanks for all the comments, guys!
 
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