Help me get started in building bomber style seats
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rsanter
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Visalia, just south of fresno, north of Bakersfield
rsanter
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Also Jamey Jordan... Very approachable and downright nice guy.
Cornfield Customs (member here) also has some bead roller how toos...
I have a couple of bead rollers and Miltler is clearly the best out of the group. The HF one is good because it comes with the extra dies and only issue is the bead roller needs to be beefed up. It will spread because of the thin material used and I am sure there is a thread on modifying it. You don’t need a big bender because your only breaking the corners or making angle to rivet the seats together . A Beverly shear is nice to have and or a Milwaukee electric shears are great for cutting the material list.. Make a bucket seat first because its a bit easier to do with the size. Get also a good rivet gun and it will be much better then the air chisel .
Don't bother trying to set rivets with an air hammer... and don't spend the money on the eastwood gun and rivets get a real tool.. the redbox I mentioned and linked too is better for the money... Also Rivets from the Aircraft supply are significantly cheaper per pound than eastwood.
Fair enough...but I already own it...present from the wife.
The Eastwood kit works good and as a gift that’s even better. So even with a air chisel it will work just harder to get clean rivets because of speed and more then one way to skin a cat.
A bench seat I was making for a model a coupe hot rod. I got the rivets from ebay and liked the domed head . I use them rivets on my leather projects as well and ebay had a great price. I am not building a aircraft and so no certification needed . Look for the correct length of your rivet and diameter of the tail..
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That's a cool looking bench...nice work.
I assumed the Eastwood gun was an actually rivet gun and not just a chisel...is that correct?
Also, I know squat about the "correct" rivets for the job/material...so I'll be in here asking lol
Thank you and build a couple a year so ask away...
The Eastwood is a rivet gun but rivets guns come in different sizes , yours will do great with some practice . I am no expert but learned from a old timer air force mechanical engineer building experimental planes. I am a old timer model maker /die maker so we helped each other out on projects.
The Eastwood is a rivet gun but rivets guns come in different sizes , yours will do great with some practice . I am no expert but learned from a old timer air force mechanical engineer building experimental planes. I am a old timer model maker /die maker so we helped each other out on projects.
tc-cad
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I can't wait to see your work. I have thought about doing the same thing. All I need is a bead roller..............................
Just checking in to let you guys know the dream isn't dead. I just received the Eastwood bead roller drive...I bought 1 punch/bead die in 1.5" (for another project, but to really test their stuff to see if I'll buy more from EW or someone else's dies), a few bead roller dies, the SWAG Offroad bandsaw stand...and yeah...I think that's it. Now I need a stand for the bead roller. Ideas? Oh yeah, got the bead roller guide fence as well for the 27" roller. Ok, back to the stand. I have a few Wiltons laying around, but want something a little more permanent, and I'd hate to waste a good vice on that.
PugetDude
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Gore, take a look at this one:
https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/tools-another-hf-bead-roller-stand.137858/
willymakeit
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Look at the swedeish metal man on you tube. He has the high dollar equipment but shows how to create by hand.
Keyblazer
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Dimple dies.
From this guy...
Search his store... bought small set, themn medium set, then individual bigger dies, as budget allowed.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dimple-Die...g:sc:USPSPriorityFlatRateEnvelope!92610!US!-1
From this guy...
Search his store... bought small set, themn medium set, then individual bigger dies, as budget allowed.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dimple-Die...g:sc:USPSPriorityFlatRateEnvelope!92610!US!-1
Keyblazer
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Results.
My Home built HF Mod Bead roller, on its 2" trailer hitch stand, attached to the back of my Home built mod HF E-Wheel/Planishing hammer work station...
My Home built HF Mod Bead roller, on its 2" trailer hitch stand, attached to the back of my Home built mod HF E-Wheel/Planishing hammer work station...
OK, for starters...that is an AWESOME set up. Waaaay beyond what I have going at this moment...maybe one day.
My issue with those dies, as nice as they look, is that I would need a press, which I don't have. I was hoping for my dies to utilize either a bolt and impact set up, or the HF knockout/press. Also, it looks like they make a small ring/impression around the dimple. Is that correct, or is that just an illusion?
My issue with those dies, as nice as they look, is that I would need a press, which I don't have. I was hoping for my dies to utilize either a bolt and impact set up, or the HF knockout/press. Also, it looks like they make a small ring/impression around the dimple. Is that correct, or is that just an illusion?
Do you mean Lazze? Or some other Swede?
Keyblazer
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Gore,
Yes, there is a slight mark around the Dimple from the Die, but I think it’s as much my inexperience as a fault of the tool. My impression, pun intended, is that experts use a bit of leather or material between the Dies to protect the material, just as they do in bending aluminum.
The HF 20t Press is so cheap new, and cheaper used, and is a monster addition to my little shop for the $. Just added the Swag HD finger brake, and upgraded the ram to the Air-Hydraulic unit when I saw it for $80 last week.
I have the HF Knock out punch unit too, but use it for punching holes.
As for my sheet metal station, it’s all home built from cheap used HF E-Wheel($60), a new HF Planishing Hammer($80), and cheap cutoff steel REMs.
The Bead roller was a rusty, worn out HF unit I got for $50 used, and invested sweat into it, but little $. I’m even making my own bead roller dies on my cheap lathe.
My point is, my monthly tool budget is tight, maybe $100/ month, so I buy cheap, and invest time. Some months, I forgo spending to save for items. The Swag HD finger brake, for example, took some time to procure, but I aimed to get it when I knew they were having a sale! More info on my thread.
Yes, there is a slight mark around the Dimple from the Die, but I think it’s as much my inexperience as a fault of the tool. My impression, pun intended, is that experts use a bit of leather or material between the Dies to protect the material, just as they do in bending aluminum.
The HF 20t Press is so cheap new, and cheaper used, and is a monster addition to my little shop for the $. Just added the Swag HD finger brake, and upgraded the ram to the Air-Hydraulic unit when I saw it for $80 last week.
I have the HF Knock out punch unit too, but use it for punching holes.
As for my sheet metal station, it’s all home built from cheap used HF E-Wheel($60), a new HF Planishing Hammer($80), and cheap cutoff steel REMs.
The Bead roller was a rusty, worn out HF unit I got for $50 used, and invested sweat into it, but little $. I’m even making my own bead roller dies on my cheap lathe.
My point is, my monthly tool budget is tight, maybe $100/ month, so I buy cheap, and invest time. Some months, I forgo spending to save for items. The Swag HD finger brake, for example, took some time to procure, but I aimed to get it when I knew they were having a sale! More info on my thread.
tc-cad
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Get some one to laser cut out a Blank for a Bomber Seat that should make it very easy to build.
I can definitely respect that. While I love the hunt, and the satisfaction of making/restoring something into a usable state...I have a tendency to spend more time on those things than I do using it...or getting that overwhelmed feeling and abandoning the project altogether.
Doms
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Good call on that video! I subscribe to him already and watched it when he first posted it. He does a great job of breaking it down for a beginner...although I'm sure he's making it look easier than it is.