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Smitty

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Vintage vises in their original habitat f2bd183f128c564d7a1f87370a86ba5d.jpg.jpg[/IMG]

You do realize, that's a Bugatti???

Where are all the Bugatti vises???:evil:

I could be wrong, but I believe that is a Type 35...

The second photo is a "Pur Sang" replica from Argentina...:drool::thumbup:
He’s got two vises on the bench behind him but it’s hard to tell what kind. I’ll bet that was a fun car to drive around the countryside.
 
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Some barn finds from the Catskills:

The in-laws were super excited to give me this 80 pound Parker No. 59....it had a sad life (and death). This was in use in the 1940's on the farm and may have been purchased new long before that.

The static jaw just behind the insert was completely broken off and (attempted) welded back on. The only thing holding it in place are the pins. Jaws are 4 3/4".

The slide is cracked; looks like 2 pieces of plate were cut and hammered into the crack and then tack welded. First Parker I've seen in person with a cracked slide. I can't remember who was doing a survey on Parkers with cracked slides??

Also a piece of plate is welded behind the collar with a different bolt in place. Not sure what is going on here. I'll need to remove that bolt to reveal its secret.

Trying to figure out what I can do with this since it's not repairable.
 

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There were some other finds that I won't mention yet....but I did come home with this little guy.

It's a 1950's/60's Palmgren cross slide drill press/machinist vise. Pulled it out of a pile of hay...pretty rusty, but the mated surfaces and screws were all greased and look to be in good shape. Everything moves and turns freely! I think it's a 8285-1(?) - 3" jaws and pretty heavy for its size. Cow manure is not a good metal preservative as it turns out ^_^

Going to tear it down today and start cleaning it up. Pretty happy to have this one as I've been looking for a small drill press vise for a while. Palmgren shifted production overseas since Hanson bought them, but these old US made vises were top notch.
 

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He’s got two vises on the bench behind him but it’s hard to tell what kind. I’ll bet that was a fun car to drive around the countryside.

There is 3 on that bench, one is the typical English machinist type, the others you cant really see.
The Bugatti has no number plate, lights or mud guards over the wheels, whilst I believe that is how they were all supplied it was either brand new when the picture was taken or was for racing.
 

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Swapped a minty but small (35lb) post vise for a Reed 103-1/2. I'm not really into post vises so didn't mind parting with it despite it's top condition. My first Reed, the jaws are excellent which is always top of my list of wants. Thing is covered in BLO I think which I am not a fan of so in time this will be changed.

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There were some other finds that I won't mention yet....but I did come home with this little guy.

It's a 1950's/60's Palmgren cross slide drill press/machinist vise. Pulled it out of a pile of hay...pretty rusty, but the mated surfaces and screws were all greased and look to be in good shape. Everything moves and turns freely! I think it's a 8285-1(?) - 3" jaws and pretty heavy for its size. Cow manure is not a good metal preservative as it turns out ^_^

Going to tear it down today and start cleaning it up. Pretty happy to have this one as I've been looking for a small drill press vise for a while. Palmgren shifted production overseas since Hanson bought them, but these old US made vises were top notch.

MB
while most of us around here are primarily big fans of bench vises, the drill press vise specially a cross slide one is extremely useful and in fact I too have been looking for some time for a good one. Nearly all the new ones are Chinese junk! Take this Chinese Wilton cross slide drill press which has a 3.5 star rating for $99!
https://www.amazon.com/Wilton-11693-3-Inch-Cross-Slide/dp/B009E0E788


Now, incidentally there is a Palmgren 30301 32 Cross Slide Vise 3.0 Inch
which very much resembles your find and strangely enough is MADE for AMAZON by Palmgren!! and is manufactured in USA

https://www.amazon.com/Palmgren-30301-32-Cross-Slide/dp/B0007ZFJQI
It has 5 start rating and is priced at $538.72! :shocking:

So my friend, in my world you hit the jackpot and deserve a you **** award :beer:
 

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Looks like this thread will hit ten million page views on New Years Eve!
Woo-hoo!
 

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It has 5 start rating and is priced at $538.72! :shocking:

So my friend, in my world you hit the jackpot and deserve a you **** award :beer:

I actually saw that link since I posted....looks very, very similar to the one I recovered. To think it would have gone for scrap!
 

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So wondering what you guys think this type of vise this is in the photo above with swivel base and the swivel rear jaw?. Interesting that I can see what look to be jaw covers.
 

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So wondering what you guys think this type of vise this is in the photo above with swivel base and the swivel rear jaw?. Interesting that I can see what look to be jaw covers.

  • Fox-eared mounting tabs (I think)
  • Swivel jaw
  • Round handle slide
  • Tall dynamic jaw slide

I'd guess a Prentiss for those characteristics - though odd that it does not appear to have any of the writing on the sides that they're known for in their casting.
 

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I just finished cleaning up the Prentiss no. 19. The vise is in great shape for its age.86244eb525299da0de0d38cc431f1385.jpg72230b6845856fa8765bccd6c0bc39bc.jpgd0ed118c55cc836b448633e825a27799.jpg2b36f1be9bc34796a92767eb79b23dda.jpge738317a166f975e2768b615de012a2e.jpg


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What is a fair purchase price for a Wilton 9400 non-swivel in good condition?

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Vise Price questions are generally a loaded one. On epry 4” Wilton bullet vises in good shape can sell upward of $200, or even may be around $300. Personally I would be happy with $150 or less but that is just me.
 

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10 million views and counting. Just wow.

This stat is even more impressive considering the very narrow focus of subject matter in this thread, namely a single tool (vise). The other impressive stat is in fact is the sheer number of posts 69k and level of active participation of members.

For example there is a thread called tools from the old world which only has 30k posts but 13m views vs the vise thread with 69k posts and 10 m views. But the former covers the gamut of tools numbering in 10s of thousands from A to Z , old and new etc vs a single tool in this thread!
 

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Happy New Years to all of my vise addicted friends. Have a great evening and best wishes for the new year!
 

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Don't think he'll mind, Heck he may even be a member here.
He should be if not.........LOL
"MIVISEGUY" is his name on his page.
Beautiful job on a 1955 Wilton bullet Vise! (Good Year BTY, My Birth year.............L0L)
1955 Wilton 9400
https://mivise.com/2017/01/1955-wilton-9400a/
Enjoy!
Happy new year to all Too!!!!:beer:
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Your Prentiss 19 is indeed a very nice spicemen and in great shape. Nice cleanup job as well :thumbup:

What is the plan for the next step ?
Buying a painted vise is kind of a double edged sword. On the bright side the paint has preserved the steel for all these years. The downside is that the vise will never have that beautiful 80 yr old patina that I love. My plan for this vise moving foreward is staring, lots of staring. Welcome back btw
 

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Don't think he'll mind, Heck he may even be a member here.
He should be if not.........LOL
"MIVISEGUY" is his name on his page.
Beautiful job on a 1955 Wilton bullet Vise! (Good Year BTY, My Birth year.............L0L)
1955 Wilton 9400
https://mivise.com/2017/01/1955-wilton-9400a/
Enjoy!
Happy new year to all Too!!!!:beer:

Bubinga
I believe the vise and website belong to the long time and very experienced member G-ManBart who does amazing vise restorations. He is also known as the Wilton magnet for his ability to find and grab Wilton bullets like a heat seeking missile. And he is very knowledgeable about vises and in particular Wilton bullets.
 
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Bubinga
I believe the vise and website belong to the long time and very experienced member G-ManBart who does amazing vise restorations. He is also known as the Wilton magnet for his ability to find and grab Wilton bullets like a heat seeking missile. And he is very knowledgeable about vises and in particular Wilton bullets.
Oh, OK, Good Deal. I'll check his page out more.
I'm really wanting one (or two or more...LOL) Now, of those bullet vise's!
Edit;
Yes, That's Him!
The vise page link is on his profile page.
 
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Picked up this 5" Wilton multi vise today. Dont know much about these. Made in the USA or outsourced? Pretty good shape just needs cleaning up. Couldn't pass it up for $20. Also grabbed an old Hargrave C clamp.
 

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Happy New Year everyone. Hoping for a wonderful beginning to 2019 and lots of vises make way into your collections!
 

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Happy New Years everyone! With the holidays I had a few days free time in the shop to finish up a couple of projects, one of which was cleaning up and mounting a big Yost 208 I picked up this fall. The vise itself turned out to be in pretty good shape but did give me a good scare when I first got a look at the dovetails on the nut. It's a split dovetail on the nut and the vise casting and the gap was full of **** that looked just like broken bits of iron. Quite a relief to just find old grease caked dirt and swarf in there.

I mounted the vise to a 2-1/4" thick plate I got from Drives and set that on a large 5/8" wall box section with a door cut in it. The bottom frame runners are 2" x 4" solid bars. Room for storage under the vise and it rolls on 10" vintage hand truck wheels with double roller Darnell casters under the frame. Jack screws at the corners to help steady it. Total weight of the vise and cart is just over #1000 and a little over #700 of that is stand. It needed a lot of mass to be usable. A few pics of the project. The other vise in the pics is a 616 Athol. Ed.
 

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Happy New Years everyone! With the holidays I had a few days free time in the shop to finish up a couple of projects, one of which was cleaning up and mounting a big Yost 208 I picked up this fall. The vise itself turned out to be in pretty good shape but did give me a good scare when I first got a look at the dovetails on the nut. It's a split dovetail on the nut and the vise casting and the gap was full of **** that looked just like broken bits of iron. Quite a relief to just find old grease caked dirt and swarf in there.

I mounted the vise to a 2-1/4" thick plate I got from Drives and set that on a large 5/8" wall box section with a door cut in it. The bottom frame runners are 2" x 4" solid bars. Room for storage under the vise and it rolls on 10" vintage hand truck wheels with double roller Darnell casters under the frame. Jack screws at the corners to help steady it. Total weight of the vise and cart is just over #1000 and a little over #700 of that is stand. It needed a lot of mass to be usable. A few pics of the project. The other vise in the pics is a 616 Athol. Ed.

Ed,
You have made two other stands that are my first and second favorite of all stands I have ever seen, this one is gunning for third.
Super slick work, well done and happy new year to you and all.

Royce
 

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Thank you VA and Royce. I think I'm going to get some use out of the big Yost being mobile like it is. I've run out of bench space for vise mounting so it's either put them on stands or build more shop. I suppose it's one of the perils of having the vise vice. Ed.
 

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Oregon...

As the man said....

If it ain't gotta solid base --- it's a wobbler...

That wee beastie ain't even gonna wobble...

(But I wouldn't want it to run over my toes...)

I don't usually give these out for bases...

But...

YA DUN GUD, BUBBA!!!!
 

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Here's my "big jobs" vice. Not sure who makes it. It's mounted to a 3/4" aluminum work bench.
 

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Someone put some nuts on the handle, so that may not be original.




Ok, so I got the 8.5" Parker 600 unloaded and unpacked yesterday. And it is a freaking monster.

Y'all may have to revoke my Man Card, but I think this vise may be too big for me. I'm not really a vise collector, so I was going to clean it up and put it back into service. However, I mainly work on cars, not battleships, so I just don't see the need for something this damn big.

Am I crazy?

Scott
 

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Happy New Year ORC.

My hat is off to you on the stand for the Big Yost! Exquisite job.

JMc


Happy New Years everyone! With the holidays I had a few days free time in the shop to finish up a couple of projects, one of which was cleaning up and mounting a big Yost 208 I picked up this fall. The vise itself turned out to be in pretty good shape but did give me a good scare when I first got a look at the dovetails on the nut. It's a split dovetail on the nut and the vise casting and the gap was full of **** that looked just like broken bits of iron. Quite a relief to just find old grease caked dirt and swarf in there.

I mounted the vise to a 2-1/4" thick plate I got from Drives and set that on a large 5/8" wall box section with a door cut in it. The bottom frame runners are 2" x 4" solid bars. Room for storage under the vise and it rolls on 10" vintage hand truck wheels with double roller Darnell casters under the frame. Jack screws at the corners to help steady it. Total weight of the vise and cart is just over #1000 and a little over #700 of that is stand. It needed a lot of mass to be usable. A few pics of the project. The other vise in the pics is a 616 Athol. Ed.
 

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Greetings Folks- Been what seems like a long time since I’ve had a chance to comment or post here, or even check out the most important thread on GJ- this one!😁. I’m in the beginning of sort of switching my career of class A licensed contractor to buying and selling older vintage items hopefully concentrating mostly on items made of metal, or mostly. The passing of my father this late fall has caused a bit of a directional turn for me, and I’m enjoying it. Anyway, sorry for the hijack, I’m steering back on topic. So yesterday I was meeting up with a seller on a metal cabinet and believe that I’ve stumbled into a fantastic contact there, as he’s a rigger who moves LARGE equip and occasional he runs a crossed some heavy machinery that industry wants to get rid of and I’m sure you can imagine some of the voices that he happens to find. So I’m coming to you guys because I’ve been searching and haven’t found what is the going rate right now on a Colombian 508? Yep he’s got one sitting on the floor in the shop I’ve got some pictures of it. He says he’s got somebody who supposed to be coming to get it , But hasn’t heard back from the fellow or seen any money in sometime. My dilemma is starting this new biz I’m short on extra cash in the price he’s asking is definitely I would say a little high. From my perspective. 450 is what he’s asking. But I’ve been watching the voice market and it just seems to keep climbing. So any thoughts on that price is there still money for me to make on that. Just once again looking for a little advice from you gurus. I’ll throw the pictures up here in just a sack. Thanks y’all have a great day look forward to hearing from you. Josh
 

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