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Dewalt 40v Officially DISCONTINUED

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Haven't seen this confirmed in the forums after searching, but I had a chat with the Dewalt Rep this morning and they've officially discontinued the entire 40v line. She said they werent sure how long replacement parts would remain in stock. So stock up on whatever parts/batteries you may need if you plan on staying with the line for a while.
 
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Wow. Seems like the only thing their cordless users can count on is that they show zero mercy for any of their platforms.

I guess that’s one way to differentiate their brand from the competition...
 

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Seems like old times when Dewalt abondon the old 18 v to 20v lithium with different fitment, thus abondon all the Dewalt guys.. I have since switched to Milwaukee and happy..

Only Dewalt that is top is their music jobsite box.. Kills all others in sound quality.. It's the Dewalt DWST08810 Radio/Digital Music Player with Bluetooth.. Even then, yu can't put a flexvolt battery in that one. But I keep that ine strictly for music purpose.

Just look at the flexvolt and regular Dewalt compatibility.. Stupid.. They have no loyalty to users.. Even ryobi stayed same battery fitment.

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****. I have the 40 volt chainsaw and hedge trimmer. I thought this might happen when the 20 volt equivalents were released shortly after my purchases.
 

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Aside from the light I wanted, the only real reason I went Milwaukee is because of the rabid M18 fan-base. As a result of that, they're less likely to suddenly drop an entire product line; well, unless they're idiots.

In use, I don't think there's much of a difference overall between the major cordless manufacturers. Sure, one company may have a better saw, but then another will have a better drill.

It all evens out. I was just afraid of losing out after buying. Even if Milwaukee makes that mistake, the aftermarket will keep the stuff alive. DeWalt probably has a bit of that, as well; but one standard for a very long time is good for longevity.
 

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Seems like old times when Dewalt abondon the old 18v to 20v lithium with different fitment, thus abondon all the Dewalt guys. I have since switched to Milwaukee and happy...

I remember exactly when that happened. We had just moved into our house and I bought a 18v Dewalt kit to upgrade from my old Craftsman 19.2v cordless drill. Within 3 months, they announced the 18v line was going to be discontinued - no wonder the kit was such a good price. That has had me on the fence about buying more tools in the line even though they are still available. They are starting to show their age and I will more than likely be switching over to Milwaukee in the near future.
 
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So happy I returned my DeWalt 40v equipment the day Milwaukee announced theirs a few years back. All was returned on Dewalts 90th day guarantee. Been very satisfied since. Did have to wait longer on that chainsaw than had hoped, but it's here. Only thing now is a backpack blower, and just give in Milwaukee and go the x2 battery route, no one will complain except other brand loyalists.
 

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People complain about dewalt switching battery standards, like the old 18v nicd to the 20v lithium range, but did ANY brand make their lithium batteries backwards compatible with their nicd tool?
 

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All of Ryobi's tools are forward/backward compatible to the best of my knowledge. Certainly the older NiCd batteries still work in the same tools as current LiIon. Not applicable to their 40V batteries/tools though.
 

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Good old Dewalt screwing their users over at least once every decade LOLOL
 

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When Makita discontinued their 36V line of tools (the one with the dedicated 36V battery, not their X2 line) they released an adapter that allowed use of two of their 18V batteries. Makita BCV03.

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Maybe Dewalt can do something similar.
 

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Seems like old times when Dewalt abondon the old 18 v to 20v lithium with different fitment, thus abondon all the Dewalt guys.. I have since switched to Milwaukee and happy..

Only Dewalt that is top is their music jobsite box.. Kills all others in sound quality.. It's the Dewalt DWST08810 Radio/Digital Music Player with Bluetooth.. Even then, yu can't put a flexvolt battery in that one. But I keep that ine strictly for music purpose.

Just look at the flexvolt and regular Dewalt compatibility.. Stupid.. They have no loyalty to users.. Even ryobi stayed same battery fitment.

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What do you mean? I use the flexvolt 9" cutoff saw at work and those batteries also work in the other tools like my impact driver
 

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This seems like it's jumping the gun a little calling it "official". It's not been announced anywhere. Just because one rep said it doesn't necessarily make it so.

I have no investment in these tools so it doesn't affect me either way. But still seems a little wishy washy.
 

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X2 on the v28 still being listed on their web site. I still use my v28 set from 2005 and used it for 7 years as a pro after first getting it. If they put the same tech as the m18 or m12 into the m28, it would be incredible. I'm not sure if the new m18 tools will out perform the m28 to eliminate the need for 28v tools.

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What do you mean? I use the flexvolt 9" cutoff saw at work and those batteries also work in the other tools like my impact driver
Put the regular Dewalt battery into a flexvolt tool.. Then, let me know...

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People complain about dewalt switching battery standards, like the old 18v nicd to the 20v lithium range, but did ANY brand make their lithium batteries backwards compatible with their nicd tool?

All my Ridgid 18V tools accept each other's batteries and the Lion charger will charge the NiCds even, but not the other way around. Haven't bought a battery since 2003 either - all covered under lifetime warranty...

Used to be a Makita guy but a couple hundred bucks for batts every 2-3 years got old...
 

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My response to your earlier post:
Well, it makes a lot of sense. We couldn't give the backpack leafblower away last summer.

Why bother when you have capable 20v and Flexvolt systems already in place. It was a good interim system while the flexvolt technology was developed but is now redundant -- who has DeWalt OPE but not tools (that weren't 40v to start w/)?
 
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Good old Dewalt screwing their users over at least once every decade LOLOL

Lol, b/c no other brand has swapped platforms with emerging technology? Let's see the MILWAUKEE made adapter for the M18 batteries in your V18 tools. Oh wait, there isn't one offered by them. Those bastards, actually screwing their customers on a whim :bounce:
 

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Snap on had some backward compatibility too.

Milwaukee learned from the V18 to M18 standard, I honestly expect them to keep the M18 standard for a really long time, it would be a really big hit to their bottom line if they made all the old tools obsolete.

As for the Dewalt 40 volt, remember the 36 volt? Me neither.... ;)
 

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My Dewalt 18v batteries **** the bed a while back, haven't replaced them. Only have the drill & impact/hex driver. Will be going with Milwaukee.

Plenty of other Dewalt, but it's all 110v corded.
 

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Haven't seen this confirmed in the forums after searching, but I had a chat with the Dewalt Rep this morning and they've officially discontinued the entire 40v line. She said they werent sure how long replacement parts would remain in stock. So stock up on whatever parts/batteries you may need if you plan on staying with the line for a while.


How is this reported conversation considered "Official", spelled with a capital "O"?

The only other reference to this Official news that I found on the internet is another post by firefighter5145, that said the same thing quoted below as is quoted above, with the additional claim of this Official bad news being "confirmed":

Well the bad news has been confirmed, Dewalt has discontinued the 40v line of outdoor tools. I was assured 2 months ago through a rep that they wouldnt be discontinuing the line but today was told otherwise. Stock up on any parts or batteries you may need as they dont know how long they will have them in stock.

Since these two posts are all that can be found, and since these two posts are firefighter5145's only two posts on GJ, how does one independently "confirm" an "official" announcement that has not been made by DeWalt?

Even more cynically, how does one distinguish a member with zero post history, despite having registered 3 years ago, from a corporate agent working on behalf of TTI with the goal of introducing doubt in the longevity of support for a competitor's brand in a tool category (cordless OPE) that is set to explode this spring (and indeed is already exploding), as broad market acceptance has finally metastasized into a categorical shift toward battery power in the garden?

As new consumers choose which battery platform to standardize on as they jump on the bandwagon to take advantage of the increased efficacy of lithium battery power in the outdoors, the decision on which brand to adopt is critical to everyone involved... because the dominate battery platform will enjoy the dominant market share, and the sustaining revenue that comes with it.

So without an independent way of verifying one person's claim, made twice in one morning, with no other corroborative evidence found anywhere else online or in person to back it up... how do we know what to believe?

Manufacturers don't help. Take Shindaiwa, a well respected Japanese manufacturer of professional outdoor power equipment, now owned by the same parent company which owns Echo. In 2016, Shindaiwa introduced a line of 56v OPE (string trimmer, hedge trimmer, blower) with a 2ah and 4ah battery pack option, and a promise that a lot more was to come. Two years later, in 2018, Shindaiwa quietly discontinued the entire line, and retailers who carried it blew the remaining inventory out at 50% to 75% off.

A phone call placed in 2019 to Echo/Shindaiwa headquarters in the USA completely denied the discontinuance of the Shindaiwa 56v OPE product line. The Shindaiwa website still featured brochures and videos describing the product line. Yet phone calls placed with 4 different independent and unrelated distributors around the country did indeed confirm that Shindaiwa had discontinued the line, and all future battery operated OPE would be marketed under the Echo brand (and naturally , the batteries would be different and incompatible).

So whoever answers the phone at the manufacturer's head office cannot necessarily be believed either, which renders the DeWalt claim even less credible if it is based solely on one such conversation.

All of the foregoing notwithstanding, the idea of DeWalt discontinuing the 40v series does make sense, if the 40v batteries do not work with the FlexVolt or the 20V Max systems. I don't own any DeWalt, so I have no frame of reference in that regard. But I am curious, and do wonder how much traction one anonymous claim on a forum can have in dissuading folks from adopting the current offerings DeWalt has in the 40v OPE line up.

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When Makita discontinued their 36V line of tools (the one with the dedicated 36V battery, not their X2 line) they released an adapter that allowed use of two of their 18V batteries. Makita BCV03.

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Look at all these different adapters Makita provided:

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As do I. Now what am I supposed to do with them?


****. I have the 40 volt chainsaw and hedge trimmer. I thought this might happen when the 20 volt equivalents were released shortly after my purchases.
 

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So dewalt has a 20V 40V 60V system? how many others?

I do expect this to be the norm for cordless tools. While I am invested in M!8, it seems as though Milwaukee has intentions not to screw us. The trimmer and saw both use M18 batteries.

Though, my purchases for less used tools in the future will be air or corded.

NMG
 

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So dewalt has a 20V 40V 60V system? how many others?

I do expect this to be the norm for cordless tools. While I am invested in M!8, it seems as though Milwaukee has intentions not to screw us. The trimmer and saw both use M18 batteries.

Though, my purchases for less used tools in the future will be air or corded.

NMG

You see, the 60v can be used in the 20v, and the 40v was strictly for OPE. They both have 12.

Milwaukee is also still running M28. I don't think a difference of one (allegedly going away) is a deal breaker -- it's truly less since they're backwards compatible. :shrug:

EDIT: Milwaukee also has M4. (tho I recently learned DeWalt has like two 8v MAX tools).
 

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You won't find that from any other brand. :dunno:


There really isn't anything crazy going on with the adapter, just changing the connection style. Remember, 20v & 18v tools are the same, just depends if they choose to use the nominal voltage for marketing. It's similar to Surebonder making an adapter to use Milwaukee, Dewalt 20v, or Makita batteries in a Ryobi tool. It is nice that Dewalt offered it, rather than forcing people into buying an older battery when converting to a newer style pack system.
 

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It is nice that Dewalt offered it, rather than forcing people into buying an older battery when converting to a newer style pack system.

Exactly. They provided a bridge from the old NiCad system to the new Li-Ion one. Milwaukee went from 18 to...18, and did not offer such an amentity, hence my confusion at the one poster's disdain -- its quite rare to see a manufacturer do that, and with the flexvolt technology DeWalt has really shown commitment to their users. :thumbup:
 

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What’s the big deal? I’m sure the 40v batteries and chargers will be readily available for years to come, if the undocumented rumor is, in fact true. Wear parts for the tools will still be out there.

I heard GM discontinued production of the Corvair a few years ago. People didn’t stop driving them, as far as I can tell. Tecumseh engine parts are still available and production was discontinued years ago.

The sky’s not falling.
 

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You see, the 60v can be used in the 20v, and the 40v was strictly for OPE. They both have 12.

Milwaukee is also still running M28. I don't think a difference of one (allegedly going away) is a deal breaker -- it's truly less since they're backwards compatible. :shrug:

EDIT: Milwaukee also has M4. (tho I recently learned DeWalt has like two 8v MAX tools).

Would it make logical sense then for Dewalt to discontinue their 40v line in favor of their 20v and 60v line having some crossover? ;)

Much like Milwaukee M18 power their OPE, Dewalt is some manner, is kind of following suit.

So a 60V tool is essentially Milwaukee's 9AH and 12 AH batteries?

Judging by this page one their website https://www.dewalt.com/products/power-tools/flexvolt/flexvolt-batteries

I see some logic in the cancelation of their 40V line. Especially if the 40V has a different mounting platform.

I have dewalt and Milwaukee in my family.
 

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Would it make logical sense then for Dewalt to discontinue their 40v line in favor of their 20v and 60v line having some crossover? ;)

Much like Milwaukee M18 power their OPE, Dewalt is some manner, is kind of following suit.

So a 60V tool is essentially Milwaukee's 9AH and 12 AH batteries?

Judging by this page one their website https://www.dewalt.com/products/power-tools/flexvolt/flexvolt-batteries

I see some logic in the cancelation of their 40V line. Especially if the 40V has a different mounting platform.

I have dewalt and Milwaukee in my family.

Not sure what you're getting at here -- see my original post on the matter.

My response to your earlier post:
Well, it makes a lot of sense. We couldn't give the backpack leafblower away last summer.

Why bother when you have capable 20v and Flexvolt systems already in place. It was a good interim system while the flexvolt technology was developed but is now redundant -- who has DeWalt OPE but not tools (that weren't 40v to start w/)?
 

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I still have my DeWalt 18V NiCad tools. But... I do have a couple of the sleds to use 20V Li-Ion batteries.

Drill/Driver, Circ Saw, Jig Saw, Recip Saw, Vacuum, Worklight.... Too many tools to switch over. They all still work just fine.
 

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For what it costs to buy the adaptor & two new batteries, I could just buy new Milwaukee kit.
Yeah.. Putting that adapter and then the lithium battery make any older Dewalt nicad look and feel like a Frankenstein power tool..
Havd yu seen how Dewalt just is giving up on the 12v line, to be soon discontinued any day?? A smart Dewalt 12v collection would be to sell it before its valued to ZERO.

I don't hate Dewalt, just can't stand a company who abondons loyal customers to make more $$$. I still have some old Dewalt 9.6v, 14 volt... All relics now. Never mind the old collection of 18 nicad that I firesaled them.. Never again Dewalt..never getting my $$$ again.
Hello Milwaukee and happy camper... Both 18 and 12v..tons of tools in almost all trades.

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I really don't understand all the Milwaukee love here. They also came out with an 18v lithium platform (V18), and then promptly abandoned it. Everyone had to go ahead and buy new tools and new batteries. People have short memories, I guess.

DeWalt has had a lot of battery platforms, which is unfortunate. They seem very committed to their 20V and 60V systems now, and do offer adapters for their old 18v tools.

Ryobi obviously offers the best "longevity" since you can use the same batteries in everything. Makita also should get an honorable mention for using the same LXT 18v battery for 12 years now.
 
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