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mr.lemons

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Bacho is made in Japan? I thought it's Taiwan.

I was saying that other ratchets have a direction change switch on the handle similar to the K+ that is posted above. Sorry should have explained better.
 
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Any feedback on the Tsunoda cutters? How does the cutting edge hold up?

I bought a pair not long ago. Excellent design and they do cut the ty wraps flush as advertised.

Haven't used them long enough to comment on longevity. I think they are rated for soft wire also so that would be a good sign that the edges aren't real soft. I have used and will use mine on plastic/nylon only.
 

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I bought a pair not long ago. Excellent design and they do cut the ty wraps flush as advertised.

Haven't used them long enough to comment on longevity. I think they are rated for soft wire also so that would be a good sign that the edges aren't real soft. I have used and will use mine on plastic/nylon only.

Thanks for the feedback :thumbup:
 

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The other K+ with the tag in the picture shows made in Taiwan. Just because you bought it in Japan doesn't mean made in Japan. I've never seen or heard of K+ so I don't know for sure.

I do like the looks of yours with the slim head and reverse in the handle though. How smooth are the teeth in it and how high is the back drag?

The back drag on both feel equal. The K+ teeth feel more aggressive and are louder but it has several years of daily use vs the relatively new nepros.
 

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Damn this thread. I've been on the fence about getting these. Just read your nicely detailed review and fell victim to both the new KBN-125 and the KBN-150 on Amazon for free delivery today.
 

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I picked up a K+gear ratchet at a random home store in Japan a few years ago and love it. Was hoping you guys might be able to help me track down more. It’s got a 90 tooth gear and is substantially smaller than even my nepros! It’s also unique in the direction switch is located back on the grip.

Looks decent. I've always been curious about the Belzer/Bahco style, but the availability of a 1/4 drive in a really compact head dimension makes this one even more appealing.

I saw the exact same one when I was browsing a hardware store in the Czech Republic last year. It's likely made in Taiwan (or China) and sold under a different name for the Czech market. Perhaps the patent that Belzer held for that mechanism (the directional lever) ran out and has since been reproduced?

Here's a link to the Japanese home center, called Komeri (1193 stores in Japan). They have them in the 3 common drive sizes: https://www.komeri.com/disp/CSfDispListPage_001.jsp?q=%82j%81%7B%82f%82d%82%60%82q%81%40%83X%83%8A%83%80%83%89%83%60%83F%83b%83g%83n%83%93%83h%83%8B&dispNo=&codeSearch=0&searchFirst=1&searc01.x=0&searc01.y=0
 
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Thanks for the link! I’m actually heading back over in October for work so I’ll pick a few up now that I know what home store chain it was.
 

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Good day guys, im newbie here in your forum. i recently buy this tools one is KTC and the other is HIT which i think is toho koki. i would like to ask you guys, what is the difference between "nickel chrome vanadium" and "chrome molybdenum"? which of them is tougher in terms of daily use? and which of them do you prefer? thank you in advance guys.:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:



 
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Had a few arrivals today. One is an imposter, but still has a great ratchet mechanism in it.

Love that free same day delivery
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Co worker introduced me to these on our battle to have more Vessel tools
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Long one turned out to be Thailand though. Still is an excellent mechanism.
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Hi,

I read your review on these. So they are rated to cut 10AWG as well? How would they stand up to 23ga pins from pinners (nailers). I don't know the hardness of the pins.

Seth

Tsunoda spec it to be able to deal with 5.5mm2 stranded copper wire, which as far as I remember is 10AWG.

I'd be interested to know how they fare with regular use on 23ga pins - Tsunoda's end cutting nippers are rated up to 64HRC, though, rather than the 56 to 62 of the KBN-150 so I suspect you'd get longer life out of a tool like that.

You got me, just ordered it. 👍

Hope you like it! I have been quite impressed by all of the Tsunoda stuff I have acquired so far, it has all held up to repeated use quite well. I should do some more write-ups of the other stuff I have.
 

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Tsunoda spec it to be able to deal with 5.5mm2 stranded copper wire, which as far as I remember is 10AWG.

I'd be interested to know how they fare with regular use on 23ga pins - Tsunoda's end cutting nippers are rated up to 64HRC, though, rather than the 56 to 62 of the KBN-150 so I suspect you'd get longer life out of a tool like that.



Hope you like it! I have been quite impressed by all of the Tsunoda stuff I have acquired so far, it has all held up to repeated use quite well. I should do some more write-ups of the other stuff I have.


Are the end cutting nippers flush cut? Plenty of things will cut 23ga pins but I have yet to find one that is flush cut and rated for it. I've been wanting something to flush cut pins a for a few years. Every once in a while I have one that doesn't go right and is in a difficult location. Cut with what ever and then use a nail set works, but not as good as a flush cut.
Seeing that the Tsunoda actually has a wire ga rating I am thinking maybe it can handle the very thin pins.

Seth
 

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Are the end cutting nippers flush cut? Plenty of things will cut 23ga pins but I have yet to find one that is flush cut and rated for it. I've been wanting something to flush cut pins a for a few years. Every once in a while I have one that doesn't go right and is in a difficult location. Cut with what ever and then use a nail set works, but not as good as a flush cut.
Seeing that the Tsunoda actually has a wire ga rating I am thinking maybe it can handle the very thin pins.

Seth

I don't actually own a pair of end nippers (yet) so can't comment there.

I'll see if I can find a 23ga nail or similar in the shop and see how the KBN-150 goes cutting it. I know the specs say 1.6mm of soft iron is OK (and 23ga is .6mm?) but is a nail classed as soft iron? No idea myself...
 
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Any feedback on the Tsunoda cutters? How does the cutting edge hold up? I'm not familiar with brand. I definitely don't "need" them since I got 2 pairs of $160 carbide tipped medical grade Swanstrom flush cutters for $19--haha! BUT I'm a sucker for good designs and this cutter looks interesting.

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Send me one of those swanstrom pliers and I’ll tell you all about the tsunoda cutters [emoji41]


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Good day guys, im newbie here in your forum. i recently buy this tools one is KTC and the other is HIT which i think is toho koki. i would like to ask you guys, what is the difference between "nickel chrome vanadium" and "chrome molybdenum"? which of them is tougher in terms of daily use? and which of them do you prefer? thank you in advance guys.:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:










Chrome Molybdenum is hands down the tougher metal for everyday use, but when you get into alloys like the chrome vanadium molybdenum wiha uses or the spring steel chrome vanadium alloy Pb Swiss uses it changes the properties, ex. it might wear more but be less brittle or visa versa, making it more suitable for their application
Just picked up some sockets from Flash tools (fpc) they are cr-mo as well. Made in Japan and does the date stamp on every socket like Koken, same format. Overall I’m impressed and like the locking rail they came on. Here’s my home set of the tsunoda cutters everyone is talking about. I post some 3.Peaks dual edge cutters on here a couple weeks ago and I like the 3.Peaks better for zip ties myself. If anyone is getting into the pliers made in Japan Do Not forget to look for 3.Peaks, Fujiya, Merry (Muromoto Tekko), IPS, King TTC (tsunoda), Keiba, engineer (vampliers) and even KTC. I have pairs from all of those and 3.Peaks always has the smoothest action IMO
 

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Got some more fpc on the way and after seeing these I don’t regret it. Even if I do already have dozens of sets of the same type. I got ratchets and socket sets tucked away everywhere like a doomsday technician [emoji23]


Metric Tech
 

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Got some more fpc on the way and after seeing these I don’t regret it. Even if I do already have dozens of sets of the same type. I got ratchets and socket sets tucked away everywhere like a doomsday technician [emoji23]


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Weird how the 11 finish doesn't match the rest.
 

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Weird how the 11 finish doesn't match the rest.



I was looking at that too & I would much rather have a 15mm then an 11mm that I could use a 7/16” on but hey it’s Japan thats how they do. I do like how the broaching all matches though, I have so many snap on sets and others that have different broaching styles and depths it’s kind of a pet peeve. I also like when deep sockets aren’t broached all the way down so nuts and bolts set up at the end instead of falling down deep in the socket 8399d291fa2c4e4b816ac6269cf9f8f3.jpg
 

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Lol i forgot I do have a 15mm on this set, it’s the nut grab style I got on the way that is missing the 15. Well it’s time to take these off of my wife’s vanity and get em greasy at work
 

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Chrome Molybdenum is hands down the tougher metal for everyday use, but when you get into alloys like the chrome vanadium molybdenum wiha uses or the spring steel chrome vanadium alloy Pb Swiss uses it changes the properties, ex. it might wear more but be less brittle or visa versa, making it more suitable for their application
Just picked up some sockets from Flash tools (fpc) they are cr-mo as well. Made in Japan and does the date stamp on every socket like Koken, same format. Overall I’m impressed and like the locking rail they came on. Here’s my home set of the tsunoda cutters everyone is talking about. I post some 3.Peaks dual edge cutters on here a couple weeks ago and I like the 3.Peaks better for zip ties myself. If anyone is getting into the pliers made in Japan Do Not forget to look for 3.Peaks, Fujiya, Merry (Muromoto Tekko), IPS, King TTC (tsunoda), Keiba, engineer (vampliers) and even KTC. I have pairs from all of those and 3.Peaks always has the smoothest action IMO

thanks for the info. sir...:bowdown:
my latest catch...


 

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Hope you like it! I have been quite impressed by all of the Tsunoda stuff I have acquired so far, it has all held up to repeated use quite well. I should do some more write-ups of the other stuff I have.
Made 20 cuts with them today. Holy ****, these things are great! :thumbup: Thank you for forcing my hand to make the purchase. :bounce:
 

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New Old Stock; the $65 tag was yard sale asking price years ago but it didn’t sell. It reared itself again when my in-laws were cleaning garage. I offered $20— sold. Made in Japan


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my latest catch...

Great stuff. Really like the look of the Ko-ken breaker bars. I haven't seen Hans tools before. Look to be the same screwdriver handles as Toptul.

This is one I'm sure you guys have seen before but I got my hands on a TD-6310HX recently and have found it to be stellar:

Great review and pics :thumbup: Very interesting.
 
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thanks for the info. sir...:bowdown:

my latest catch...








And I thought I was bad with my weekly $200+ orders. I’m glad I’m not alone in this addiction [emoji6]. I tell my wife I won’t say anything about her high end makeup orders if she doesn’t say anything about my high end tool orders, so we got an agreement! Lol
 

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Great stuff. Really like the look of the Ko-ken breaker bars. I haven't seen Hans tools before. Look to be the same screwdriver handles as Toptul.



Great review and pics :thumbup: Very interesting.

HANS are well-known brand in our counrty they produce good quality tools at a cheaper price same as toptul they are made in taiwan. but of course its not as same level as KOKEN
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:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:
 

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Great stuff. Really like the look of the Ko-ken breaker bars. I haven't seen Hans tools before. Look to be the same screwdriver handles as Toptul.



Great review and pics :thumbup: Very interesting.

And I thought I was bad with my weekly $200+ orders. I’m glad I’m not alone in this addiction [emoji6]. I tell my wife I won’t say anything about her high end makeup orders if she doesn’t say anything about my high end tool orders, so we got an agreement! Lol

im lucky, my wife are very supportive to me...:bounce::bounce::bounce::beer:
 

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Found this with my dads old tools. It’s a Fujiya linesman/combination pliers from the early 80’s. He even put his initials in Japanese (I’m Japanese)

Just put it on the wire wheel for a little and they look brand new!

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Found this with my dads old tools. It’s a Fujiya linesman/combination pliers from the early 80’s. He even put his initials in Japanese (I’m Japanese)

Just put it on the wire wheel for a little and they look brand new!

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Very nice find, I love when I find old brand name tools and can clean them up to be like brand new. Fujiya is a great brand
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I was just looking at my crankcase spreader and realized I’ve not shown you guys or seen one on here, so here you go and behind it is my genno hammer from Japan. I love how unique these hammers are compared to others I have. The handle is white oak and feels very smooth
 

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Just put in an order for the 3/8 Koken Zeal socket set and ratchet. Looking forward to receiving it and will post pics soon
 

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Found this with my dads old tools. It’s a Fujiya linesman/combination pliers from the early 80’s. He even put his initials in Japanese (I’m Japanese)

Just put it on the wire wheel for a little and they look brand new!

Very nice! :thumbup:
 
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