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ptgarcia

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This Tekton 8-pc. hex driver set was 25% off last week. Combined with my saved up rewards I couldn't pass it up.
 

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Posted in the tools of Japan thread.
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Having burned up my old Dremel some time ago and not wanting to spend a lot of money on another right now, I picked up this Hyper Tough 1.5 amp rotary tool today at Walmart instead. Only cost $16.84.

I purchased it to do one job, clean up the small rust spots on the inside rim of my Harley's rear wheel before I mount the new tire and tube. Anything after that is a bonus.

Give us a review in a year if you end up using it for more than this job. Some of the Hyper Tough isn’t too bad, at one point they had USA pry bars.
 

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Picked up this new scraper set today on a deal. Threw the carving set in for free, you know, for the kids.


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I got tired of cheap ****** drill bits, so I picked up a 29pc viking set from Acme Tool. I havent used them yet, but I'm hoping they do a ton better than the Northern Tool set I bought in HS.

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New Williams screwdrivers. Going to try them over my 25 yr old Craftsman drivers.
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New Williams or old Snap-on, same either way. Not bad, but the ergo's aren't for everyone and the hard finish leaves something to be desired. They will last a long time though. I've still got a few around.
 

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Picked up this new scraper set today on a deal. Threw the carving set in for free, you know, for the kids.


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That Snappy pumpkin carving kit is really cool (imagining some day those will sell for $100 on eBay). I was wondering, though - two things: 1) are the tools made in USA, and 2) are they well made (answer to #1 will likely have influence on #2)?
 

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That Snappy pumpkin carving kit is really cool (imagining some day those will sell for $100 on eBay). I was wondering, though - two things: 1) are the tools made in USA, and 2) are they well made (answer to #1 will likely have influence on #2)?


Snappy driver gave me a set last week. IIRC they're made in china. They're a giveaway item so I'd say the quality is about the same as any made in china pumpkin carving set out there, for whatever that's worth.
 

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Snappy driver gave me a set last week. IIRC they're made in china. They're a giveaway item so I'd say the quality is about the same as any made in china pumpkin carving set out there, for whatever that's worth.

Well looks like now even Snap-On has jumped on the China produced products band wagon. :headscrat
 

Mr_John

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One of my new acquisitions (the Koken 2753PS 1/4 stubby ratchet):
 

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Mslund1

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That Snappy pumpkin carving kit is really cool (imagining some day those will sell for $100 on eBay). I was wondering, though - two things: 1) are the tools made in USA, and 2) are they well made (answer to #1 will likely have influence on #2)?


They do say China on the handle.

I did find them to be very robust compared to the other no name carving kits you find around this time of year.

Not flimsy and feel like they’re going to snap while carving.

Again, they are a promo item so take it how you will.





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Mr_John

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That looks like a stubby proto 5249 ratchet


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Agree that the head looks like it with the Phillips screws, but the handle on the Proto is knurled, and that model is a 3/8 drive. The stubby handle on the Koken is Snapon-esque. I'm not a big fan of the low tooth count on larger Koken ratchets, but I think the smooth low drag 20 tooth mech on the 1/4 stubby works well.
 

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Well looks like now even Snap-On has jumped on the China produced products band wagon. :headscrat

these sets aren't really a "product" of Snap on. They're a giveaway item, nothing more. Snap On and most other companies I know of have their freebies made in China.

Snap On also puts their name on air compressors, flashlights and other random items sold at Costco but that's another subject altogether
 

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I can't decide if I want to keep these or return them. Got a seemingly great deal on the this Urrea 3/4" drive ratchet and socket set for $175, thinking they'd be made in Mexico and the same great quality of the few other Urrea tools I have.

I'm not really sure what to make of them though. The whole set came with a sticker dating Made in Mexico, and the ratchet and a couple items including one of the sockets had individual tags saying Made in Mexico. All of the tools except the universal joint adapter have Mexico stamped in them. However, several of the sockets have stickers on them that say Made in Taiwan, despite having Mexico stamped on them.

When I compare the stampings on the socket that had its own Made in Mexico sticker, the stamping in the Made in Mexico socket looks a little finer and less blurry than the stampings in the other sockets.

All of this would be more or less irrelevant if the quality and condition were great, but the chrome is already starting to peel in a few of the tools right out of the box, which makes them sharp in a couple places on the handles and I know will be the first place they'll start rusting now.

You can see in the one picture the single individually wrapped socket with a Made in Mexico label, next to another socket I suspect was also made in Mexico, next to another one that I suspect was made in Taiwan. Notice how much more clearly the stamping is on the second than the third.

None of this would bother me if I weren't worried that these may be indications of cheaper materials being used, which is not something you want, especially on a 3/4 drive socket set.

I just can't decide if a set in this condition is worth what I paid or not. If I had paid full price, there's no question these would be going back. As is, I can't even tell if these are better than my Made in China Craftsman 3/4 drive set.

The one thing I do really like about three set at least it's the ratchet. Looks exactly like the Made in USA Proto version and feels much smoother than the Craftsman ratchet.

Also showing a picture comparing a Made in Germany Elora socket to the Made in Mexico Urrea from this set, then the Made in Taiwan Urrea socket of the next size down from this set next to the Made in China Craftsman socket.


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Mr_John

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I can't decide if I want to keep these or return them. Got a seemingly great deal on the this Urrea 3/4" drive ratchet and socket set for $175, thinking they'd be made in Mexico and the same great quality of the few other Urrea tools I have.

I'm not really sure what to make of them though. The whole set came with a sticker dating Made in Mexico, and the ratchet and a couple items including one of the sockets had individual tags saying Made in Mexico. All of the tools except the universal joint adapter have Mexico stamped in them. However, several of the sockets have stickers on them that say Made in Taiwan, despite having Mexico stamped on them.

When I compare the stampings on the socket that had its own Made in Mexico sticker, the stamping in the Made in Mexico socket looks a little finer and less blurry than the stampings in the other sockets.

All of this would be more or less irrelevant if the quality and condition were great, but the chrome is already starting to peel in a few of the tools right out of the box, which makes them sharp in a couple places on the handles and I know will be the first place they'll start rusting now.

You can see in the one picture the single individually wrapped socket with a Made in Mexico label, next to another socket I suspect was also made in Mexico, next to another one that I suspect was made in Taiwan. Notice how much more clearly the stamping is on the second than the third.

None of this would bother me if I weren't worried that these may be indications of cheaper materials being used, which is not something you want, especially on a 3/4 drive socket set.

I just can't decide if a set in this condition is worth what I paid or not. If I had paid full price, there's no question these would be going back. As is, I can't even tell if these are better than my Made in China Craftsman 3/4 drive set.

The one thing I do really like about three set at least it's the ratchet. Looks exactly like the Made in USA Proto version and feels much smoother than the Craftsman ratchet.

Also showing a picture comparing a Made in Germany Elora socket to the Made in Mexico Urrea from this set, then the Made in Taiwan Urrea socket of the next size down from this set next to the Made in China Craftsman socket.

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Found this comment from a 2012 post - but seems to address your issue:

Hootbro
08-05-2012, 01:33 AM
I have made two recently large orders of URREA tools through Home Depot for extensions and ratchets.

I ordered about 8 extensions all together with a mix of 1/2", 3/8" and 1/4" sizes. All of them came with "Made in Taiwan" stickers, with some having the Taiwan stickers on extensions with the "Mexico" stamped extensions.

I checked around and found the below link:

http://rulings.cbp.gov/detail.asp?ru=h059999&ac=pr

Basically it shows Urrea sending raw blanks to Taiwan, having Taiwan forge the product and then send it back to Mexico for final marking and finishing.

While the 3/8" and 1/2" drive extension were of acceptable quality and I kept them, the 14" and 12" long 1/4" drive extensions were bowed and not true and I returned those.

So in summation, expecting Mexican made Urrea products is a pig in a poke now.
 

mrspeed

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Found this comment from a 2012 post - but seems to address your issue:
Well that explains it. Ironically, I now know more about how and where these are made from that court ruling than I do for most tools with a clearly marked COO that don't have their own court rulings.

One difference is that the court ruling says several times that Urrea places the Taiwan labels over the top of the Mexico stampings to help avoid confusion, but they didn't do that for a single socket in this set.

If it weren't for all the poorly applied chrome plating that's already chipping, I wouldn't mind nearly as much. Oddly enough, that's supposedly one of the steps actually performed in Mexico.

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Mr_John

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Well that explains it. Ironically, I now know more about how and where these are made from that court ruling than I do for most tools with a clearly marked COO that don't have their own court rulings.

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It's funny, but something else came up and I just pasted that comment without ever following up on the link. The link does not work, but apparently you found the CBP.gov website and searched for URREA. Here's the full link (on two lines since it is a link with a search criteria link) - but yes, that ruling does explain what the heck is going on. It's just funny that labor costs in Mexico are so low, and Mexico is part of NAFTA, so, given all that, they STILL found it necessary to outsource to Taiwan?

https://rulings.cbp.gov/search?term=URREA&collection=ALL&sortBy=RELEVANCE&pageSize=30&page=1

Oh, and for those that may be interested in the Cliff's Notes Version:

HOLDING:

Based upon the information and the sample submitted, we find that the sockets are products of Taiwan. Accordingly, the sockets marked with paper adhesive labels that completely obscure the word “Mexico” and bear the words “Made in Taiwan” satisfy the marking requirements of 19 USC § 1304.


Sincerely,


Myles B. Harmon, Director
Commercial and Trade Facilitation Division
 

Empty Pockets

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I've got a lot of trees to trim before winter. I had originally hoped to go with the 80 volt Kobalt pole saw until i learned that there were no replacement chains available.

I decided to try the Lynxx 64718 from HF. After working with it for one day, so far so good.
 

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Well that explains it. Ironically, I now know more about how and where these are made from that court ruling than I do for most tools with a clearly marked COO that don't have their own court rulings.

One difference is that the court ruling says several times that Urrea places the Taiwan labels over the top of the Mexico stampings to help avoid confusion, but they didn't do that for a single socket in this set.

If it weren't for all the poorly applied chrome plating that's already chipping, I wouldn't mind nearly as much. Oddly enough, that's supposedly one of the steps actually performed in Mexico.

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That make sense to me as Taiwan is producing some of the best ratchets and sockets now. They'd be of better and more consistent quality of just outsourced all together.
 

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I see everyone's bottle openers and raise y'all this. o
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Gedore socket wrench from amazon. 10mm
 

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Picked up these two from the classifieds. Now to swap them over to orange soft grips
 

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Gedore socket wrench from amazon. 10mm

I was interested in a set of those until I saw the COO was India.. and knowing Gedore's previous reputation of india produced tools. Very disappointing they can't make those in germany.
 

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I was about to buy a different set of locking extensions when I did a quick search and happened to find these from AutoZone. It was only $7.99 for the set. They weren't in stock anywhere around here but they ordered it in a day. They did have an individual 3/8 locking extension in the store for $11. No idea if these are any good. The rubber sleeve is removable...I haven't seen any others like that.
 

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I needed a mid-sized ball peen for work. I have a 16 oz, then a gap til 40 oz. At 24 oz I think this one will see a lot of use. And I love my other Estwing hammers.:beer:

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I've been wanting these 2 sets for quite a while. Recently I pulled the trigger, had I known how smooth the action is, I would have bought them sooner. All I need now is for SK to make these in a reversible flex head.

I sense tat my wife will soon be taking my credit card on a field trip to the mall.
 

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I've been wanting these 2 sets for quite a while. Recently I pulled the trigger, had I known how smooth the action is, I would have bought them sooner. All I need now is for SK to make these in a reversible flex head.

I sense tat my wife will soon be taking my credit card on a field trip to the mall.

After buying those two set, you really kinda deserve it...
 
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