Let's see your RED DeWalt err MAC Cordless Power Tools

[Skin]

It's exactly the same as the DeWalt DCF894 (just look at the model numbers - Dewalt is DCF894 vs MAC is MCF894). Specs may not be on Mac's site yet, but you can check the DeWalt page, as it's the exact same gun with a red case

Actually they aren't the same. The MAC is assembled in US DeWalt facilities using a different motor and impact assembly that outputs a higher Torque and reduces the front profile for accessibility.

There was some blowback with the 899 being ported over without tangible changes so revisions for MAC iterations will be more common as well as trying to keep assembly in the US.

 

[Handyandy23]

The DeWalt mid range is rated at 330 fastening and the Mac is 600 breakaway. The Milwaukee mid torque for comparison has 450 fastening and 600 nut busting. My guess is that the Mac would be stronger than the DeWalt

Unless something has changed recently the DeWalts are made in China while the Mac is made in the USA. The venting and front housing is slight different between the Dewalt and Mac

According to my Mac dealer, warranty work has to be sent to Ohio through the dealer. DeWalt is at your local service centre,

Actually they aren't the same. The MAC is assembled in US DeWalt facilities using a different motor and impact assembly that outputs a higher Torque and reduces the front profile for accessibility.

There was some blowback with the 899 being ported over without tangible changes so revisions for MAC iterations will be more common as well as trying to keep assembly in the US.

I think the 894's are identical other than cladding. They're just advertising differently. The DCF894 is pushed at 330 ft-lbs of fastening torque but is also rated at 600 breakaway, and the Mac version only puts the 600 ft-lbs breakaway on the box.

Also look at all the other stats that are identical between the two: 3100 IPM, 3.48 lb weight, and @Skin both the DeWalt and Mac have the "3 modes" with a 900 RPM low range and 2000 RPM high, and both are 6.95" long exactly. So not sure the statement that the Mac has a different motor and/or impact assembly for shorter front profile is true.

The only somewhat tangible difference (other than the cladding) is that the Mac version is "built in USA with global components" at the DeWalt US facility, whereas the yellow version seems to still be assembled overseas.

I'll also give the Mac an advantage in pricing - I get a little screwed over on shipping and duties in Canada, but I can still get the Mac version from the US about $25 cheaper than the DeWalt version.

 

[javyLSU]

^You beat me to the punch... Having said all of that, if any of you guys are at all interested in that MCF894, I would jump all over that eBay listing. I'm sure the retail will be much higher than the $109.95+13.95 shipping they currently have it listed for purchase at.

 

[Farmall450]

The DeWalt mid range is rated at 330 fastening and the Mac is 600 breakaway. The Milwaukee mid torque for comparison has 450 fastening and 600 nut busting. My guess is that the Mac would be stronger than the DeWalt

Unless something has changed recently the DeWalts are made in China while the Mac is made in the USA. The venting and front housing is slight different between the Dewalt and Mac

According to my Mac dealer, warranty work has to be sent to Ohio through the dealer. DeWalt is at your local service centre,

I agree that they probably aren't the same. Just looking at the unit, plus the specs. Granted, breakaway is always higher. Plus the MAC can handle oil.

Also, mailing in is no sweat -- I have to do that for DeWalt anyhow. There's one place in Indianapolis and one in Addison. So a pretty moot point.

 

[Handyandy23]

I agree that they probably aren't the same. Just looking at the unit, plus the specs. Granted, breakaway is always higher. Plus the MAC can handle oil.

Also, mailing in is no sweat -- I have to do that for DeWalt anyhow. There's one place in Indianapolis and one in Addison. So a pretty moot point.

The specs are literally the same though. DeWalt doesn't list breakaway torque on their website for the DCF894 for some reason, but the DCF896 is exactly the same gun with "Tool Connect" added to it, and it lists every single spec the Mac version does, right down to the "600 ft-lb breakaway torque".

https://www.dewalt.com/products/power-tools/impact-drivers-and-wrenches/20v-max-tool-connect-12-midrange-impact-wrench-with-hog-ring-anvil-kit/dcf896hp2

 

[Farmall450]

The specs are literally the same though. DeWalt doesn't list breakaway torque on their website for the DCF894 for some reason, but the DCF896 is exactly the same gun with "Tool Connect" added to it, and it lists every single spec the Mac version does, right down to the "600 ft-lb breakaway torque".

https://www.dewalt.com/products/power-tools/impact-drivers-and-wrenches/20v-max-tool-connect-12-midrange-impact-wrench-with-hog-ring-anvil-kit/dcf896hp2

It's pretty odd that DeWalt would miss the opportunity to sell on those stats. Especially with comparisons to Milwaukee's offerings.

Although both parts of the housing are different, which makes me speculate there's more to it than what meets the eye. I agree the motors are probably identical.

 

[Skin]

I think the 894's are identical other than cladding. They're just advertising differently. The DCF894 is pushed at 330 ft-lbs of fastening torque but is also rated at 600 breakaway, and the Mac version only puts the 600 ft-lbs breakaway on the box.

Also look at all the other stats that are identical between the two: 3100 IPM, 3.48 lb weight, and @Skin both the DeWalt and Mac have the "3 modes" with a 900 RPM low range and 2000 RPM high, and both are 6.95" long exactly. So not sure the statement that the Mac has a different motor and/or impact assembly for shorter front profile is true.

The only somewhat tangible difference (other than the cladding) is that the Mac version is "built in USA with global components" at the DeWalt US facility, whereas the yellow version seems to still be assembled overseas.

I'll also give the Mac an advantage in pricing - I get a little screwed over on shipping and duties in Canada, but I can still get the Mac version from the US about $25 cheaper than the DeWalt version.

Just reiterating the spiel I was told. They supposedly arent the same. If someone wants to give me a few hundred patreon subs i'll buy both and tear them apart in the name of science.

 

[braxx]

I own 3 -mcf894 guns and compared them to a dcf894.
I can tell you the mac feels a little different and is physically a little different. I couldn't conduct technical test/comparisons but I did try a quick lug nut removal test.
Torqued up some F450 lug nuts to 200lbft and used the guns multiple times with fresh 5.0ah batteries.
Both guns removed the nuts but the mac gun didn't seem to have to hammer as long as the dewalt gun before the nuts came loose.
Lastly they are not physically the same. The mac is not as long as the dewalt. Look at the nose cone where the anvil exits the nose. The mac has a shorter nose.

After handling both I'm glad I went with the dewalt guns.

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[Handyandy23]

I own 3 -mcf894 guns and compared them to a dcf894.
I can tell you the mac feels a little different and is physically a little different. I couldn't conduct technical test/comparisons but I did try a quick lug nut removal test.
Torqued up some F450 lug nuts to 200lbft and used the guns multiple times with fresh 5.0ah batteries.
Both guns removed the nuts but the mac gun didn't seem to have to hammer as long as the dewalt gun before the nuts came loose.
Lastly they are not physically the same. The mac is not as long as the dewalt. Look at the nose cone where the anvil exits the nose. The mac has a shorter nose.

After handling both I'm glad I went with the dewalt guns.

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Can you please elaborate on why you're glad you went with the DeWalt? Or is that a typo? From what I read it sounded like you were saying the Mac was stronger and better.

 

[braxx]

Can you please elaborate on why you're glad you went with the DeWalt? Or is that a typo? From what I read it sounded like you were saying the Mac was stronger and better.

I went with the MAC .

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[Handyandy23]

I'm sold, just bought the last one on that eBay listing. Anyone try these with a 2 ah battery? I know in general lower amp hours can mean lowered power output but just wondering if I'll see that, or just less runtime?

 

[braxx]

I'm sold, just bought the last one on that eBay listing. Anyone try these with a 2 ah battery? I know in general lower amp hours can mean lowered power output but just wondering if I'll see that, or just less runtime?

I did try with 2ah battery. Still took the 200lbft lug nuts loose BUT the gun seemed to shut down/turn off on extended hammering. Just let off the trigger and start again. Maybe too much amp draw?

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[Farmall450]

I did try with 2ah battery. Still took the 200lbft lug nuts loose BUT the gun seemed to shut down/turn off on extended hammering. Just let off the trigger and start again. Maybe too much amp draw?

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I knew the were a few % weaker, but I didn't know it would do that. Makes sense, XR was basically the first at what Milwacky now calls "high output"

 

[Handyandy23]

My MCF894 finally arrived (hopefully my pictures uploaded)!

Haven't used it much yet but tried it out in my truck lug nuts (140 ft lbs) and worked good. I also didn't realize until after, but I had it on a faster setting recommended for tightening (instead of the slower breakaway torque setting). So it seems to have quite a bit of juice.

It's a little on the heavy side with a 5ah battery back, but that's to be expected. Otherwise balance and feel in the hand is really good.

 

[pioneer1]

Just pulled the trigger on this. Kept going back an forth from Dewalt, Milwaukee or Ridgid for a Mid Torque. Decided on this since I already have a few Dewalt batteries
Guess I will be staying in the Yellow for now

 

[pioneer1]

I can't believe it showed up today! I put a battery on it jut to make sure it ran, will try it out later. I did put a socket on it as well and it was pretty hard to remove it, hopefully that will loosen up. Any tips on making it easier to remove sockets?

 

[braxx]

I can't believe it showed up today! I put a battery on it jut to make sure it ran, will try it out later. I did put a socket on it as well and it was pretty hard to remove it, hopefully that will loosen up. Any tips on making it easier to remove sockets?

I've been using mine a lot and it is still tight.

On a side note. Yesterday I replaced wheel hub bearings and I used it to remove the axle shaft nuts that were originally torqued to 270lb-ft 17 years ago. Took them off with no issue. Then today I broke/twisted off a 18mm strut bolt.
This thing has tons of power.

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[bowtech321]

Thinking about picking up a 12v Mac drill. Mac has a pretty good deal on them this month in the flyer. Has any one used the 12v drills. How do they hold up. I have a few DeWalt tool but only 20v


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[braxx]

Thinking about picking up a 12v Mac drill. Mac has a pretty good deal on them this month in the flyer. Has any one used the 12v drills. How do they hold up. I have a few DeWalt tool but only 20v


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I have the mac 12v drill and I like it a lot. I just wish it had a 1/2 Chuck.
I read there are some new 12v dewalt brushless tools coming out.
I don't think the mac 12v drill is brushless

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[Farmall450]

I have the mac 12v drill and I like it a lot. I just wish it had a 1/2 Chuck.
I read there are some new 12v dewalt brushless tools coming out.
I don't think the mac 12v drill is brushless

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I have a spare chuck that came on the DCD777 (1/2) if you want it. Not sure if they're the same thread, though, however it's pretty slim and probably wouldn't look terrible on it. Super common drill if you want to compare them in a store or something.

 

[braxx]

I have a spare chuck that came on the DCD777 (1/2) if you want it. Not sure if they're the same thread, though, however it's pretty slim and probably wouldn't look terrible on it. Super common drill if you want to compare them in a store or something.

Thanks for the offer but I'll just stick with the original Chuck.

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[dmaxfireman]

Any word on when the boot for the MCF894 will be out?

 

[Farmall450]

Any word on when the boot for the MCF894 will be out?

Not that I've seen. I wonder how close it is in size to the 3/8 high torque (that has the same body as the old compact 1/2).

 

[dmaxfireman]

Not sure, it will just be the closest fit for the DCF894 that I have. They just have slightly different nose cones from what I can see.

 

[Farmall450]

Not sure, it will just be the closest fit for the DCF894 that I have. They just have slightly different nose cones from what I can see.

That's what I was thinking.

 

[dmaxfireman]

That's what I was thinking.

Called a few weeks ago and was told PB894-B would be available 9/1/19.

Called 9/2/19 to order and they are still not available and now have no projected date.

 

[Farmall450]

Called a few weeks ago and was told PB894-B would be available 9/1/19.

Called 9/2/19 to order and they are still not available and now have no projected date.

I wonder why...I can't imagine it's that hard to cook up a batch, whether they make them in house or not. IK my 1/2 boot was out for a few weeks at first, but definitely not more than 2 or 3.


In other news, I thought I had finally found a reasonably sized bolt mine couldn't take off, and worried the M18 would...but in the end neither could. Front wheel on a Farmall M. Luckily, the IR 2235tiMAX just barely got it off. Heavily rusted fine thread -- fought the entire way.

 

[dmaxfireman]

The PB894-B protective boot for the MCF894 is available. I ordered one and will post pictures when it arrives.

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[dmaxfireman]

It's on. Minimal gap on the nose area since this one is slightly different than the mcf894 nose cone.

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[Farmall450]

Looks great. I like protecting my tools

 

[dalehsc]

BWP151-M2,2x 4.0 batteries,charger & kit bagView media item 98411
The charger & kit bag went home,I have the 12v/20v DeWalt charger at work

 

[Farmall450]

BWP151-M2,2x 4.0 batteries,charger & kit bagView media item 98411
The charger & kit bag went home,I have the 12v/20v DeWalt charger at work

My first Mac was that same set. Very nice

 

[WittHay]

Recently introduced 7" brushless polisher. I think there is a DeWalt version also. I dont need one but the batteries going sideways is a good idea

 

[Farmall450]

Looks like Mac (and not DeWalt, yet?) is dropping a new 12v MAX "screwdriver" that looks to be a very very compact driver (looks like an impact, but no indication that it hammers).

https://www.mactools.com/en-us/Powe...F601/12V-MAX-Brushless-Screwdriver-Tool-Only-

 

[Farmall450]

Recently introduced 7" brushless polisher. I think there is a DeWalt version also. I dont need one but the batteries going sideways is a good idea

Agreed. Although, I really like how this one looks in red. LOL. Not something I'd use enough unless a really good deal comes my way.

 

[jsaw]

Looks like Mac (and not DeWalt, yet) is dropping a new 12v MAX "screwdriver" that looks to be a very very compact driver (looks like an impact, but no indication that it hammers).

https://www.mactools.com/en-us/Powe...F601/12V-MAX-Brushless-Screwdriver-Tool-Only-

I did see the new dewalt version of that last time I was at Lowes

 

[Farmall450]

Also all sorts of 12v impact guns (square drive).

https://www.mactools.com/en-us/prod...={"k":"","o":[{"d":1,"p":"Rank"}],"s":25}#d=g

I did see the new dewalt version of that last time I was at Lowes

Oh, wow, I'm behind on the times.

 

[bixxjs]

I regularly beat this thing, can't be beaten on Price and its US made.

 

[Luciferi]

Looks like Mac (and not DeWalt, yet?) is dropping a new 12v MAX "screwdriver" that looks to be a very very compact driver (looks like an impact, but no indication that it hammers).

https://www.mactools.com/en-us/Powe...F601/12V-MAX-Brushless-Screwdriver-Tool-Only-

Ouch, $260 for a kit with 3ah batteries. I just bought the dewalt version with 2ah batteries for $94 and included a free flashlight.

I really want some red dewalt to mess with the Milwaukee fanboys I work with but not that much.

 

[Farmall450]

Ouch, $260 for a kit with 3ah batteries. I just bought the dewalt version with 2ah batteries for $94 and included a free flashlight.

I really want some red dewalt to mess with the Milwaukee fanboys I work with but not that much.

Yeah, unless you can find it from eBay or something they're spendy af.