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This will be closer look at some of the signs in and around the shop.

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This is of course is the original yard sign that was outside the shop. On the very top of the post there used to be a small single cylinder Briggs and Stratton engine. As a kid I always thought that was really cool to have an actual engine sitting on that sign.

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It had a large hand saw as the top sign, complete with wood handle which has now disappeared. The top sign says "SAWS FILED", below that "CHAIN SAWS SHARPENED" and "LAWNMOWER". Then on the bottom panel, now rusted away, it use to say "radiators repaired, plow shares rebuilt"

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It's still in it's original spot. I won't restore it because I don't want people stopping by to get work done. Haven't really decided what will become of it. It will stay in some form, with the hand saw on top at least. I'm trying to find a family photo of it when it was still readable and had the engine on it, from the 50's or 60's. I'm confident I can find one and will post it.

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I found this buried amongst everything, in the office I think? :dunno: The lettering was never finished and the sign never mounted. I'd never seen it before. I will hang it as is, somewhere in the shop.

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As mentioned in an earlier post, one of the son's did radio repair on the property, "out back" in a trailer. He repaired mostly car radio's but not always. This is the sign pointing the way to his repair facility in the back. I don't know how it got broken, this is "as found".

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You have seen this one enough times in old and new pictures. It's been hanging guard over the lift now for close to a half century. Signs similar to this must have been seen in shops all across the country.

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It turns out I found a second identical sign to this one. It went to one of the sons. All these signs on the property BTW were hand painted, a now lost art. :(

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Another one found buried. This one was painted on wood like the radio repair sign, the others were metal.

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On the bottom of these you can seen "Johnson Welding & Repair Service". The phone number is only 4 numbers long.

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Envelopes on the right and post cards on the left. On the bottom right, turned over, the post cards are advertising radiator repair in the shop and the new key machine Mr Johnson had just purchased, urging a second set of keys be made for all locks. All were pre stamped with 2 cent stamp postage and addressed to blank R.R.# ( Rural Route #'s). That meant they were going to address and mail them to farmers since they were the only one's with R.R. mailing addresses.

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In the back, middle, near the top you can see the yellow board that held key blanks and the yellow sign that says "KEYS MADE". This is the key machine and display that was mentioned in the post card, 50 years previously. I was going to keep it, but a son decided he wanted it and came back later for it.

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They even had pencils with the shop name and address on them. Phone number by then was OV-4-4725. The pencils also had "Briggs Stratton & Clinton Engines" written on them.

I've gotten a few, better pictures of early in the tool shed and will get them posted shortly..........

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+1 :)

Any closeups of that sheet metal brake sitting outside?

I do not think I do.......but, one of the sons wanted the brake so I loaded it up and hauled it to his shop. His brother, Don, had made it in the 60's. If you would like, I'll be seeing him in the next month or so, would you like a picture or two if I can manage it?

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I had seen that key display in your previous pictures. The guy that I got my shop from also made keys and had a similar display that I still have. It had a punch-style tool to cut the keys that he lost, but the blanks and display were intact. He also was a small engine repair and had a ton of NOS Clinton parts from the 50s/60s that I still have. So if you have some and find a interested party for them let me know. There is too much stuff to piece meal it out...
 

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Allan, you do know guys like you are living history don't you. You were there and old enough to be able to pass on what it was like, "in the day" working in these shops with this old equipment. Please feel free to post here any time with information you have that is relevant to the shop and equipment. You are most welcome. :thumbup:

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"Old enough" I represent that-only kidding-will be 74 tomorrow.

Some tidbits from the 50's. Worked in a gas station at 15. Can't do that anymore. Remember the guy in the body shop melting lead on the body panels. Also putting new linings on old brake shoes with a little rivit press. No bonded shoes in those days. Worked at a Chevy dealer before going to Pontiac dealer and we installed the radios & heaters prior to delivery of the new cars. Sunvisors too. Also had to pour detergent oil over the valve train sometimes to quiet them down. All straight 6's. Left just after the V8 55's came out. That was a fast little ****** for its day!

Pontiac: Remember riding around in the trunk of new cars to whack the trunk pan in order to stop it vibrating. Was the only guy in the shop with arms skinny enough to go in through the ashtray hole in back of the front seat to tighten the buttons on the seat back. Also had to put a ****** back together after the idiot in the gas station next door had taken everything apart including the valve body.

Advanced the timing on some new vehicles to give them a little more umph. Sales manager thought I was a gift from GOD and wanted to know what I did!

Thats enough-don't want to bore you folks out of your minds!

BTW Thomas, oldest son is first officer w/American-ex marine F18's. Still in reserves. Absolutely awsome to watch a pair of 18's take off at the same time and then too, the Blues fly right over our house when there is a show here in Grand Junction, CO. Talk about enjoying something!
 

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wish I could find some of those wood cubby hole and drawer cabinets. I never have enough bolt storage.

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WOW. It reminds me of a book I used to read to my kids. "All I could say is 'WOW'.

I just found this post today and had to stop at page 26. I'll catch up on the other half later in the week.

Bravo, Sir. Well Done.
 

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wish I could find some of those wood cubby hole and drawer cabinets. I never have enough bolt storage.

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Not trying to hijack, but you should just build some pick racks. I used some scraps of lumber and a few boxes of Harbor Freight bins to make these. The cabinet holds 90 bins, the wall rack holds some more. Cost me less than 20 bucks.

Back to the real thread.
 

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wish I could find some of those wood cubby hole and drawer cabinets. I never have enough bolt storage.

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Interesting you should mention finding a wood cubby hole and bolt storage.

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This just turned up in the tool shed. It's a wood box from the bolt and nut division. I saw it today for the first time. Didn't look in it yet. It's in a back corner I haven't really spent any time in. Near it was this unusual grinder.

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Now that's something you don't see every day! Made from a narrowed car rear end, flat belt powered from an old electric motor. I'll get some more pictures of it later.


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I had seen that key display in your previous pictures. The guy that I got my shop from also made keys and had a similar display that I still have. It had a punch-style tool to cut the keys that he lost, but the blanks and display were intact. He also was a small engine repair and had a ton of NOS Clinton parts from the 50s/60s that I still have. So if you have some and find a interested party for them let me know. There is too much stuff to piece meal it out...

This key cutter machine was a rotary type just like the ones in use today. It worked very well. The display would light up the "Keys Made" part. Sorry to have to give it up. As for the Clinton engine parts, will do. I've got several myself.

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"Old enough" I represent that-only kidding-will be 74 tomorrow.

Some tidbits from the 50's. Worked in a gas station at 15. Can't do that anymore. Remember the guy in the body shop melting lead on the body panels. Also putting new linings on old brake shoes with a little rivit press. No bonded shoes in those days. Worked at a Chevy dealer before going to Pontiac dealer and we installed the radios & heaters prior to delivery of the new cars. Sunvisors too. Also had to pour detergent oil over the valve train sometimes to quiet them down. All straight 6's. Left just after the V8 55's came out. That was a fast little ****** for its day!

Pontiac: Remember riding around in the trunk of new cars to whack the trunk pan in order to stop it vibrating. Was the only guy in the shop with arms skinny enough to go in through the ashtray hole in back of the front seat to tighten the buttons on the seat back. Also had to put a ****** back together after the idiot in the gas station next door had taken everything apart including the valve body.

Advanced the timing on some new vehicles to give them a little more umph. Sales manager thought I was a gift from GOD and wanted to know what I did!

Thats enough-don't want to bore you folks out of your minds!

BTW Thomas, oldest son is first officer w/American-ex marine F18's. Still in reserves. Absolutely awsome to watch a pair of 18's take off at the same time and then too, the Blues fly right over our house when there is a show here in Grand Junction, CO. Talk about enjoying something!

Great antidotes Allen, thanks for sharing them. One of my fondest memories flying was getting to fly Mom and Dad to London. I got them first class seats and did a PA during the flight about the nice elderly couple up front, celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary who just happen to have a son who also flew for the airlines. All the passengers figured that one out pretty quick and many came forward during the flight to congratulate them. They were just beaming when I saw them after we landed. A very happy and proud moment for me. I'm confident your son feels the same when you fly with him.

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WOW. It reminds me of a book I used to read to my kids. "All I could say is 'WOW'.

I just found this post today and had to stop at page 26. I'll catch up on the other half later in the week.

Bravo, Sir. Well Done.

Well thank you and welcome. Yah it s a little long but worth the time I think? :headscrat After all it's the journey, not the destination. You'll find this thread seems to move around a little from topic to topic, but never a dull moment here unless I'm gone flying! :)

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Not trying to hijack, but you should just build some pick racks. I used some scraps of lumber and a few boxes of Harbor Freight bins to make these. The cabinet holds 90 bins, the wall rack holds some more. Cost me less than 20 bucks.

Back to the real thread.

Oh, very nice oberst. :thumbup: Those would fit right in the old shop here should you ever find you grow tired of them. Honest, they would be right at home and I promise to take extra nice care of them, 'cause I'm just that kind of guy! :D Ask Chris, she'll tell you........

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Oh, very nice oberst. :thumbup: Those would fit right in the old shop here should you ever find you grow tired of them. Honest, they would be right at home and I promise to take extra nice care of them, 'cause I'm just that kind of guy! :D Ask Chris, she'll tell you........

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That, sir, is a flattering compliment. Thank you. :)

I'll put them in my will for you, but chances are good that the craftsmanship is far from your standards.)
 
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This must be the greatest thread on the internet, I'm speechless :bowdown:

HAMAR, it's now official then. This thread will now be know as " G T O I "
-Greatest Thread On Internet- Thank you sir for the promotion! :bounce:

Good to know the folks in Iceland have such a discerning eye. There's still more coming.........

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I've done both of those tasks in the past few months :thumbup:

While I do love my job, the kinds of aircraft you get to work on and the variety of jobs done and skill sets needed to do them is amazing. And the best part is.............wait for it............you get paid to do it! :thumbup: Maybe I'll reconsider the adoption after all. ;)

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To mhcomp:

Allen I believe you turned 74 years young :scared: today. Congratulations on that and many thanks for your contribution and being a part of the group here on this thread. In your honor, because you have reached such a lofty age I will now post.............


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.........a photograph of some of the 250 prune juice jars I cleaned up on the property. ( they're the green ones )


All the very best to you sir! :bow:

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LMAO Now thats funny !!

Vernmotor have a little respect will you. Telling someone that is turning 74 is funny is hardly a laughing matter! Ye gods man, a little decency here! The man has one foot practicably in the grave and you think it's funny. I'm shocked!!:lol:

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Blimey, I've been reading this thread for so long, I can't believe I've gotten to the most recent post! Well, for now anyway, I know there's more coming!

I must say that the GJ Forum certainly has some of the most fulfilling threads I've ever read on the internet, and Thomas, this is definitely one of them- well, actually the best of the lot! It's certainly stirred an interest in me with regards to things mechanical and old... if I want it though, I'll have to cut back on the coffee and takeaways, and CD's... I think I can live with that!

Again, thank you for this- as I said before, I'm sure there is plenty more to come, and I look forward to seeing what else you have gotten/ are getting up to!
 

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Vernmotor have a little respect will you. Telling someone that is turning 74 is funny is hardly a laughing matter! Ye gods man, a little decency here! The man has one foot practicably in the grave and you think it's funny. I'm shocked!!:lol:

Thomas

Haw Haw Haw! All is taken in the vein it is meant to be-hopefully fun.

However, I have been collecting my Social Security for 12 years now. Will You! :bounce:

Old is OK!
 

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We hold those "of age" in high esteem in this household! We seek them out as sources of information and assistance. Tom's dad was a veritable fountain of knowledge and freely passed it on when asked. We miss his presence.

As to social security and pension payments, we never planned to rely on those for our retirement. I couldn't accumulate social security quarters as a teacher in IL, so it's a moot point for me (I will qualify for Medicare on Tom's record only, but don't count on it). We've tried to structure our lives so as not to depend on those programs because who knows how long SS and company pensions will be around. Now that I'm retired with the next phase of my life before me, I see few obstacles to what I want to do. If I do accumulate SS quarters being self-employed, it may only reduce my retirement checks and not be worth it.

Many of our family and friends are 75+ and still doing great work (for example: master back hoe operator, car mechanics, furniture restoration/ refinishing). One friend who lived to age 99 (a retired social worker who once set up retirement homes all over the country for the YWCA in the 1920s) always said to me "the first 100 years are the hardest, but every year is worth it". I firmly believe that. We're all about having fun around here, not making fun. If you don't have fun, what's the point?

Spring is here!! I saw the first robin a few weeks ago and it's getting into the 50s daily. Get outside and enjoy!

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Chris, I only did the SS thing to pull your chains.

My retirement is in the bank except for a small bit I get from working for Control Data. Fortunately I had my own business for 20 years and took care of my own retirement.

SS would be OK if the stupid government hadn't borrowed from it to the tune of 2.7 trillion.

And,yes-if you can't have some fun :willy_nil, life isn't worth a hoot!

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Blimey, I've been reading this thread for so long, I can't believe I've gotten to the most recent post! Well, for now anyway, I know there's more coming!

I must say that the GJ Forum certainly has some of the most fulfilling threads I've ever read on the internet, and Thomas, this is definitely one of them- well, actually the best of the lot! It's certainly stirred an interest in me with regards to things mechanical and old... if I want it though, I'll have to cut back on the coffee and takeaways, and CD's... I think I can live with that!

Again, thank you for this- as I said before, I'm sure there is plenty more to come, and I look forward to seeing what else you have gotten/ are getting up to!

Just about like reaching the end of the Internet isn't it? :lol_hitti


Spring is here!! I saw the first robin a few weeks ago and it's getting into the 50s daily.

Hey Chris.....we've had Robins for about a month, Buzzards came back a week or so ago, I heard the first Red Winged Blackbird the other day, the mountains of snow we had are now gone and the grass is starting to green up AND, AND, AND, the Crocuses are blooming :thumbup: They just popped there heads out and opened up today

Oh, and they are talking possible flurries Sunday :puke:
 

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We now have at least 10 countries represented - all the way from Iceland to New Zealand. We may have more, but some haven't identified where they're from. I also know of three friends "lurking" in Moscow, China and the Ukraine, but just out of interest as to what we crazy Americans are doing (and to see what's been keeping Tom and me so busy because they know we always are!). I'm not so sure they have the room or ability to own this type of stuff in those areas of the world - I could be wrong, but I think this may be sort of a mystery to them.

Also, Sick Puppy, if this thread gets you to cut back on coffee (drains vitamin B complexes out of your body, anyway) and eat better, your health will improve and you'll have more time to pursue things mechanical and old. You may even live to see your own things turn old (but well used). It'll give you time to do those things you want to do rather than just thinking about how much you'd like to do them (or watching others do them)(then you can check in here with your own thread). (don't mean to put anyone on a guilt trip...REALLY!)

Also, CDs are on the way out, so get all your tunes loaded on an Ipod (ask Tom about it). Then you can take them anywhere with you, including into your garage. That's what Tom did in the new Morton building.

I've framed two pictures already, though not the "before" ones for the shop, yet (Tom hasn't picked them yet). I think the business is going to be successful.

It's rained, so the salt should be off the road (we did have a major blizzard on March 19 of 1983 that closed schools the next day, but I don't see that happening this year). That means it's getting time for me to bring out the Mark VIII and Tom to bring out one or more of his cars for the first ride of the year. Can't wait! May 1 is the first car show of the year at the community college. I think Tom might have a drag race in April if his schedule works out. But, first order of business is to finish those hated taxes. Yikes!

Chris
 

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I've been reading this thread for a while man...but never posting anything...damm amazing job that you was doing in that garage....many thanks for sharing this with the world...one of the best threads i have reading.... ;)

Many many thanks from Portugal man....:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

Keep this updating........
 

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Not trying to hijack, but you should just build some pick racks. I used some scraps of lumber and a few boxes of Harbor Freight bins to make these. The cabinet holds 90 bins, the wall rack holds some more. Cost me less than 20 bucks.

Back to the real thread.

Nice design Oberst, I may just steal that.

I have a 40yr collection of A and T Ford parts to organize.

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Also, Sick Puppy, if this thread gets you to cut back on coffee (drains vitamin B complexes out of your body, anyway) and eat better, your health will improve and you'll have more time to pursue things mechanical and old. You may even live to see your own things turn old (but well used). It'll give you time to do those things you want to do rather than just thinking about how much you'd like to do them (or watching others do them)(then you can check in here with your own thread).

lol Health isn't an issue, its finances! Just had a new arrival (just on four months old and a little angel! :thumbup:), so one income + renting = no spending up large on cool garage stuff! This will change in time though... watch this space!

Also, CDs are on the way out, so get all your tunes loaded on an Ipod (ask Tom about it). Then you can take them anywhere with you, including into your garage. That's what Tom did in the new Morton building.
Funny you should say that, I was wondering the same about Tom's record collection- I got the impression that each record was loaded onto CD's? I was wondering if they were being loaded onto some sort of storage medium... but been there and done that- put 5-600 CD's of my wifes onto a hard drive and got her an ipod too. My wife was very happy, and I have lots of brownie points! :D
 
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I've been reading this thread for a while man...but never posting anything...damm amazing job that you was doing in that garage....many thanks for sharing this with the world...one of the best threads i have reading.... ;)

Many many thanks from Portugal man....:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

Keep this updating........

Welcome CrustyD3mon and thank you as well. This thread can only help convince the world that Americans are truly crazy can´t it? :wtf:

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Funny you should say that, I was wondering the same about Tom's record collection- I got the impression that each record was loaded onto CD's? I was wondering if they were being loaded onto some sort of storage medium... but been there and done that- put 5-600 CD's of my wifes onto a hard drive and got her an ipod too. My wife was very happy, and I have lots of brownie points! :D

Sick Puppy ( is there a story behind that name? ) for my shop that is how I´ve done it. The LP´s are recorded to a computer hard drive and then transfered to CD´s and then placed in my 400 CD changer. With the barn, my daughter dragged me into the 21st century and I´m transfered all from the hard drive onto my iPod. I have many LP´s that contain music that is unavailable in any other format, so I treasure them.

Now go back to driving those poor folks at your work mad with what´s going on here!:soapbox:

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eheheh yeh...but i think it's not about being crazy....it is, but in my opinion we don't see this kind of projects in Portugal for example because we don't have the same access to tools, parts and stuff like that...

Everything that we have it's so much expensive that the level of life don't permit the "the dream become true...." .

I was in SoCal 2 years ago because i have family there....the best times of my life.... You guys have good taste, you love your own things...you preserv that and it is amazing...

Here in Portugal it's not like that.....if i want something probably i need to eat less to save some money...lololol

shame on you...ehehe:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:
 

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To Sick Puppy:

Congrats on the new arrival - you're right that this might make you reorganize/re-prioritize your time. My point about health stands, though - stay healthy so that you can enjoy that time with her. It's the most precious time of all and it passes in a blink. She should be crawling around in about another month (if not already) and pulling herself up on the furniture! You're right about having (or not having) time and money for the garage, but it does work out fine in the end. Ours are 27 and almost 25 now, so they're technically "out of the house", but as a wise person once told me (over and over again!): "once a parent, always a parent." And we're fortunate our two have stayed relatively close to home and got to be raised around their grandparents. When I was growing up, we only saw my grandparents once or twice a year because they lived in another state. Enjoy!

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