Light fixture over sink

[Hot shot]

Hello all
I need better lighting over the kitchen sink
As you can see it’s an 18” fluorescent Have room for a 2’
Change tombstones out or get a new led fixture
Suggestions on new fixture?
Thanks


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[driftpin]

I suggest the Home Depot LED luminaire, you won't be complaining about 'too-little light,' again!

Here's one, they have others:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Favorit...uminum-Edge-Lit-Flat-Panel-FORM-1x1/301677882

Ultra slim LED panel is an edge-lit flat panel fixture that measures just over 1/2 in. in depth (1.75 in. with driver). The panel provides uniform edge-to-edge illumination for a clean and modern aesthetic that eliminates shadowing and spotting of any kind. The LED Troffer is rated among the most efficient LED products manufactured with a lifespan of over 100,000-hours. It installs easily into tight ceiling spaces and ceiling grids, making it an ideal replacement for traditional fluorescent fixtures. Includes an LED Driver. The panel is ready to install and use directly out-of-the-box. It is available in 1 ft. x 1 ft., 1 ft. x 2 ft., 1 ft. x 4 ft., 2 ft. x 2 ft. and 2 ft. x 4 ft. configurations and features optional accessories including suspended mounting applications (sold separately). Protected by a 5 year limited warranty.

We installed one of these in the 4 ft size in a rental, and it provides plenty of light in the kitchen.

 

[Shiftless]

Unless you’re trying to get something fancy, I would just grab a $20 twin tube shop light from Costco or Sams club. Measure to be sure but I bet it will fit. The improvement in light will amaze you. You’ll have to do some modification of the wiring but if you read much on GJ you are probably a handy guy.

 

[Hot shot]

I was also wondering how many Lumens would be just right
Not sure about beam angle because the light sits 8” up from the bottom of the trim board


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[Hot shot]

I was thinking a 2’ would be just right
It will accommodate a 3’ but not a 4’


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[cybrdyke]

When new, that fixture produced about 500 lumens, but by now, you're probably down to 200.
There's a million choices out there for "undercabinet" lights that will get you back to the light level you had before or even a good bit more.
This one gives you Color Temp selectability, hand wave motion to turn it on, linkable, etc...
https://www.homedepot.com/p/GE-24-in-LED-Light-Temperature-Adjustable-Motion-Sensing-Bar-Light-Under-Cabinet-Light-Fixture-33847/206855660
This one just plugs in and is basic featureless model. https://www.homedepot.com/p/GE-18-in-LED-Under-Cabinet-Light-41524/306256424
Or, you could go with pucks: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Brilliant-Evolution-LED-White-Puck-Light-with-Remote-6-Pack-BRRC135/301839113
Or get really fancy and use color-changing tape and have a disco in your kitchen: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-12-in-30-cm-Linkable-Single-Color-Indoor-LED-Flexible-Tape-Light-Kit-4-Strip-Pack-17066/207018583

So, as you can see, your options are endless. Keep it under 1000 lumens, use something designed for "under cabinets", (not something designed for a garage) and you'll be happy.
CD

 

[Bert_]

One or two lamp 2' strip light with line voltage led's would be simplest. Pretty sure most of the strips in the best lighting sticky are available in 24".

You want something that you can bring Romex into the back of, since that is how the current fixture is wired. No reason to buy a wrap or anything since the fixture isn't visible.

 

[Shiftless]

I was wrong. The shop lights are too big for your space. Bert and cyberdyke have good suggestions.

 

[yeldogt]

Why not get something with directional light ?

You don't need light at the ceiling ... you need it at the sink.

I always do either a recessed directional or a small hanging with opaque or light proof shade .. plenty of light w/o any glare.

They make surface as well .. you have the valance if you don't want to see. The hanging are set at a height so they don't glare .. but the lower window is not affected for opening

 

[nh_yota]

10 years ago I replaced the ancient 18" T12 fixture above my kitchen sink with a 24" T8 electronic ballast fixture. It works fine for me and if I had to replace it again I'd probably go with the modern LED equivalent strip light.

 

[Shiftless]

While you’re looking around for a nice fixture, why not attach one of these to your ceiling box, screw in an LED flood bulb and enjoy the extra light? You’d be all in for around $5 - $10

As yeldogt said, directional light is good.

Since the valence hides it from direct view, you might never get around to doing anything else up there. Problem solved!

That was the set up over the sink in my house when we first moved in.

(Good house in a nice neighborhood too...just an econo approach by the P.O.)

 

[ChaseDE]

I replaced my exact fixture/area with a recessed round LED can, been going for 4 years and bright as hell. Love it



similar i guess to this guy

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Lithoni...fCH7L__xcX3P50nd5rhoCR88QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

[Shiftless]

To get the same effect without cutting for a recessed can, you could use these new design surface mount LED fixtures that mount right over the existing ceiling box.

 

[Bert_]

While you’re looking around for a nice fixture, why not attach one of these to your ceiling box, screw in an LED flood bulb and enjoy the extra light? You’d be all in for around $5 - $10

As yeldogt said, directional light is good.

Since the valence hides it from direct view, you might never get around to doing anything else up there. Problem solved!

That was the set up over the sink in my house when we first moved in.

(Good house in a nice neighborhood too...just an econo approach by the P.O.)

To get the same effect without cutting for a recessed can, you could use these new design surface mount LED fixtures that mount right over the existing ceiling box.

Both of these options assume there is a box there. I would put money that it's just Romex going into the back of the existing.

 

[ChaseDE]

Both of these options assume there is a box there. I would put money that it's just Romex going into the back of the existing.

That is all you need. My recessed LED doesn't have or required a box.


Pretty sure

 

[yeldogt]

While you’re looking around for a nice fixture, why not attach one of these to your ceiling box, screw in an LED flood bulb and enjoy the extra light? You’d be all in for around $5 - $10

As yeldogt said, directional light is good.

Since the valence hides it from direct view, you might never get around to doing anything else up there. Problem solved!

That was the set up over the sink in my house when we first moved in.

(Good house in a nice neighborhood too...just an econo approach by the P.O.)

When I redid an old fire house in Philadelphia -- I used a bunch of those throughout. The building was brick with big oak rafters and 2.5" thick white oak floor boards. Surface wiring/ boxes and the porcelain holders -- looked great and lots of flexibility.

The OP could use a thin box and socket -- any type of spot/ flood bulb. All depends on the soffit size to hide. Cutting in an old work box would give an inch or so. IMO directional light is better ..

 

[Hot shot]

Bert
You just won your bet
No box

 

[AntonLargiader]

Hot shot, when you say "better lighting" do you mean just brighter, or pleasant? There's a lot of bright lighting that's flat-out ugly and unpleasant IMO. Life is too short for that. Years ago I replaced a fixture like yours in a setting exactly like yours with a track and two floodlights. The difference was amazing. Bright, warm, happy light. Those were incandescents but these days there are nice high-quality LEDs in the right color temp and good CRI, and there are plenty of options besides track. I just had that stuff already.

Some people truly don't care about light quality. That's great; I often wish I was one of them. Unfortunately I'm not.

 

[yeldogt]

Bert
You just won your bet
No box

They never have a box ... that's the reason they get used .. cheap and easy to install.

 

[Hot shot]

Hot shot, when you say "better lighting" do you mean just brighter, or pleasant? There's a lot of bright lighting that's flat-out ugly and unpleasant IMO. Life is too short for that. Years ago I replaced a fixture like yours in a setting exactly like yours with a track and two floodlights. The difference was amazing. Bright, warm, happy light. Those were incandescents but these days there are nice high-quality LEDs in the right color temp and good CRI, and there are plenty of options besides track. I just had that stuff already.

Some people truly don't care about light quality. That's great; I often wish I was one of them. Unfortunately I'm not.

I was meaning the right amount. Not too bright, not too dim
I used 4000k color
I like that for inside the house
I have 5000k in the garage
That’s good for the garage 11’ ceilings in my opinion

 

[Hot shot]

Question
What is the code on electrical boxes
I would’ve thought that they would be required for any light fixture inside a home
This house was built in 1999

 

[Bert_]

Question
What is the code on electrical boxes
I would’ve thought that they would be required for any light fixture inside a home
This house was built in 1999

The connections were contained in the fixture. The light was the box. This is a perfectly acceptable practice.

 

[The Cobbler]

the LED's that clip into a ceiling and don't mount to a box still have a box to attach the wires . but it just lays in the ceiling.

 

[welder4956]

I replaced a single 24 in. fluorescent fixture with this dual bulb LED fixture and it puts off a lot more light than the old one.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Good-Earth-Lighting-Manhattan-24-in-Brushed-Nickel-Transitional-integrated-Led-Flush-Mount-Light-Energy-Star/1000145053

 

[Hot shot]

I wasn’t crazy about it only because in this 2’ fixture you had like a 1” wide space to put the wiring or it would be covering one of the light strips

They weren’t kidding when they say slim
Just finished putting up the 4 footer made just like the 2 footer but it had a box in the ceiling
This light came from Home Depot


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