30'x50' Building - Two Doors on 30' Side??

[DaveInTX]

I've been searching through the forum trying to find some pictures or recommendations from folks who have put two 10'-wide doors on a single 30' wall.

If you've done something like this, do you like the lay-out? Is there enough room for a walk-in door also?

I'm trying to fit this shed in a semi-wooded area, and the way it'll be laid out, the roll-up doors need to be on the 30' wall. The walk-in door can be on another wall, no problem.

I currently don't have any plans for storing trailers, so I haven't been thinking about 12' wide doors.... so far...

I'm mainly designing it for storage of 2-3 vehicles (including a 2-post lift), with space in the back corner (where the green mower is) for larger tools (bandsaw, chop-saw, etc.).

Thanks in advance!

 

[zmotorsports]

My last shop was 34' wide and I went with a 20' wide door vs. two 10' or even 12' doors and I'm not a fan of 10' wide doors. I liked the 20' wide option better for entering and egress of the shop without having that center divider to deal with. I also wanted to keep the door no less than 4' from either side to allow for tools and equipment down each wall. In my opinion 4' is the bare minimum to keep a door off the corner.

If you were to try to maintain that same 4' on each side wall that would only leave about a 2' center divider which really isn't worth it in my opinion. You could do a 20' wide door and then put your man door on the same wall, which is what I did and liked the layout.

Just a thought.

 

[readhead]

What type of construction?

 

[DaveInTX]

My last shop was 34' wide and I went with a 20' wide door vs. two 10' or even 12' doors and I'm not a fan of 10' wide doors. I liked the 20' wide option better for entering and egress of the shop without having that center divider to deal with. I also wanted to keep the door no less than 4' from either side to allow for tools and equipment down each wall. In my opinion 4' is the bare minimum to keep a door off the corner.

If you were to try to maintain that same 4' on each side wall that would only leave about a 2' center divider which really isn't worth it in my opinion. You could do a 20' wide door and then put your man door on the same wall, which is what I did and liked the layout.

Just a thought.

Very good point. Not having that center divider would give me more space to drag tools/mowers out of the garage, without having to squeeze around a vehicle and a 10' door...

 

[DaveInTX]

What type of construction?

Metal, most likely

 

[readhead]

Metal shouldn't be an issue at all.

 

[dcg9381]

If you've done something like this, do you like the lay-out? Is there enough room for a walk-in door also?

I have the same layout in a 40x60. That is, two large 14x14' doors on the 40' side, with a man-door caddy-corner. The man door we put in is 4'. It swings toward the roll-up doors, so we have it offset by a bit more than 4'. The layout is fine for us. Note, we have a 3rd 14x14' door at the rear of the shop, so it makes one of the bays "drive through".

I think what you are doing is fine. I see others suggest a single 20' door, but I'm not sure you can get that in 10' or 12' height.

I found that I often needed a garage door 1' taller than normal on residential. My shop has 14' doors to handle "if it can go on the road" - meaning a large RV or perhaps a large boat...

 

[Wardmoto]

My site dictated a similar arraignment. 30x60x14 with 2 12x12 doors. I have no issues with it and the 12' wide doors are nice as I too store camper, truck tractors etc...everything goes in and out with room to spare. One thing to consider with this lay out and the extra door width is that I have the room to always sneak my tractor/lawn mower whatever around my truck or daughter's car because of the door width. I am not backing **** our of the bays to get other stuff out. Man door on the side is no issue to me, I spaced everything even (windows and the door) to look pleasing from the outside since their placement on the inside wasn't dictated by future pans. The pic was right after the doors were hung and before the floor was poured.

 

[MetalBuildingFun]

Amarr makes doors 20 wide up to 14 feet tall

https://myonsite.amarr.com/DoorApp/designer.php?id=AmarrDoorDesigner

Being in Texas may I also suggest you have some windows added for air flow if you won't be adding any other big doors on the other walls?

Ours is 16'Wx30'L with a 12'Wx9'H door on the 16' wall and a 6'WX7'H door on the end of the 30' wall. We also have a walk door and window on that 30' wall. We do plan to install A/C but it will be nice to open the window to allow air flow when needed. We added our walk door to the rear of the 30' section so that when there is painting or anything else being used in there the big 12' door and the walk door and window can be opened to allow some great air flow. The 6' wide door will be blocked by a loft with a full wall and a walk door in there so not much air flow will come from there.

 

[MrSurly]

30X40X14
two ten footers in the 30 side.
I had my drawings revised by an actual building designer, and he made some changes to address shear.
I'm VERY happy with the setup.

 

[Worsedog]

Here's the original 30 ft. end of my 30x40. The doors are 8x10

 

[GA_Brown]

I have a 30’ x 40’ and have a double garage door and a 36” door on the 30’ side.

 

[coljar]

My last shop was 34' wide and I went with a 20' wide door vs. two 10' or even 12' doors and I'm not a fan of 10' wide doors. I liked the 20' wide option better for entering and egress of the shop without having that center divider to deal with. I also wanted to keep the door no less than 4' from either side to allow for tools and equipment down each wall. In my opinion 4' is the bare minimum to keep a door off the corner.

If you were to try to maintain that same 4' on each side wall that would only leave about a 2' center divider which really isn't worth it in my opinion. You could do a 20' wide door and then put your man door on the same wall, which is what I did and liked the layout.

Just a thought.

I agree with this. I have a building with 10ft. wide doors on the front and rear and they are a pain.

 

[Leaflessshadetree]

I was supposed to have 2 12ft doors on the 30' end just like your picture.
Unfortunately the contractor decided he wanted to also put a man door on the end so he reduced them to 10' wide with one of them only 1' from the side wall.
That wall in now useless (not enough room for any storage or work).

 

[Racy2]

I am in the process of building a 30 x 50 steel building. I am in a residential area and want my garage to look decent. My plans are identical to what you have with 2 10 foot garage doors in front and the man door on the side. I intend to put a 30 ft boat in it but will use the bucket of a tractor to back the boat in and out. I think 12 foot doors would be nice but would not really need it that often.

 

[joel]

I went with 12' wide doors and love them...very glad they are not narrower.

Agree with zmotorsports on keeping garage doors away from side walls...makes the space way more usable. Even for things as simple as opening a vehicle door!

 

[DaveInTX]

Thanks for all the input, folks! Very valid points from everyone, I do appreciate it. Good idea on the windows too - I don't plan on any other doors, so that is a good point about airflow. I'm still a ways off from installing, so please keep the opinions coming!

 

[ZRX61]

I'd make the *semi-wooded* part of location "sparsely wooded" & put the doors on the 50ft side.

 

[Bobyepsr]

Mine are 10 ft. Wide and I regret no going 12 ft. With my tow mirrors folded out I only have a few inches to spare.

 

[firebirdparts]

I have two doors + a walk-in on a 30' side and it's a lot. Obviously it can work, but you don't have much wall left. No regrets on 10' doors. Naturally it's a challenge to put an 8.5' wide trailer through a 10 foot door, but then people exercise. Some of them even run uphill. Anyway I don't mind it.

 

[spitfire557]

My pole barn is 30x50 with two 10' doors. Trying to dig some pictures up now for you!

Here you go. I'm very happy with the layout FYI, for my particular situation it worked out perfectly.

 

[imjustdave]

I was supposed to have 2 12ft doors on the 30' end just like your picture.
Unfortunately the contractor decided he wanted to also put a man door on the end so he reduced them to 10' wide with one of them only 1' from the side wall.
That wall in now useless (not enough room for any storage or work).

So that means .... I decided to pay you 5k less on your quote, seems like a better number to me.

 

[sberry]

Build 40 wide and use 12 ft.

 

[Mthomas1686]

Based on the layout of my spot I put the doors on the 60ft side.
I did one 12x14 and 2-10x10. I initially thought to do the smaller doors for cost, and wall space along the front, but after driving in and out of a 10x10 I would recommend a minimum of 12' wide. Backing up a trailer in the 10' is not as forgiving. Too late for me now but at least I went with a high lift door track.

 

[CraigStu]

I MUCH prefer on wide door. Depending on construction there can be code regs about the minimum width of the wall outside of the doors and how it needs to be constructed. Not a huge deal but good to be aware of because it may help narrow the cost comparison between one and two doors. I have found on a couple of garages that the daily driver parking is so much easier w/ one wide door. Our current house has just a 16 ft door so we park the cars looking a little pigeon toed and it is fine. Our previous house had two 8ft doors and I will say that backing a 5.5 ft wide (plus the wheel tire width) utility trailer was a definite pain. Doable but the 16 ft wide makes it so easy. You might check on the 18 and 20 wide prices. I suspect 18 is fairly widely sold but 20 might be a price jump.

 

[bradpac]

I'm looking at this same situation for a stick built 25ft wide on the door side. Thinking of 2 10ft doors as I want space in the middle to work and only want to use one side wall for storage, but intentionally want the other side open as workspace and to not get cluttered with stuff. Also, I will have a 4 post lift on 1 side right at the door so that negates putting anything wide in the middle. The cost of framing a 20ft opening and the 20ft door itself is a lot higher on a hip roof building with all eaves as well. For me, being able to get an 8ft-6in trailer open car trailer into the garage was the only requirement and with a straight driveway and decent backing skills I can do that no problem for the couple of times it might be needed, so right now two 10x10 doors is what I'm going for. If I had the room I would do two 12ft wide doors though, but 100% nothing narrower than a 10ft door.

It all depends on your usage.

 

[Ron_J]

I built mine just like you are thinking and I'm very happy with it.

I can see where the 2 doors would make for tight quarters depending on what you are planning to use it for. For me, I park my truck in one stall and the other is just available space. I like the extra room at the "back" of the garage. Plenty of room even with the truck in it.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=456916

 

[eastbaysubaru]

I wouldn't go with anything less than 12' doors. 10' is just too narrow if you get something wide or have to take something out at a weird angle. Otherwise, a large single door makes in/egress much easier.

-Brian

 

[gfd_703]

I just finished a 30 x 50 with an 18 foot wide door in the 30 foot end. This gives me 5 foot or so on either side of the door and I put the walk door on the side 5 foot from the corner. This way I have a 5 x 5 corner for car wash supplies, pressure washer and oil change items including waste oil barrel. One side wall is 4 foot deep pallet racking.

 

[firebirdparts]

I'm looking at this same situation for a stick built 25ft wide on the door side. Thinking of 2 10ft doors as I want space in the middle to work and only want to use one side wall for storage, but intentionally want the other side open as workspace and to not get cluttered with stuff. Also, I will have a 4 post lift on 1 side right at the door so that negates putting anything wide in the middle. The cost of framing a 20ft opening and the 20ft door itself is a lot higher on a hip roof building with all eaves as well. For me, being able to get an 8ft-6in trailer open car trailer into the garage was the only requirement and with a straight driveway and decent backing skills I can do that no problem for the couple of times it might be needed, so right now two 10x10 doors is what I'm going for. If I had the room I would do two 12ft wide doors though, but 100% nothing narrower than a 10ft door.

It all depends on your usage.

Same here as I already posted. I wouldn’t want big doors for the reasons you don’t.

 

[That Guy Scott]

I've been searching through the forum trying to find some pictures or recommendations from folks who have put two 10'-wide doors on a single 30' wall.

If you've done something like this, do you like the lay-out? Is there enough room for a walk-in door also?

I'm trying to fit this shed in a semi-wooded area, and the way it'll be laid out, the roll-up doors need to be on the 30' wall. The walk-in door can be on another wall, no problem.

I currently don't have any plans for storing trailers, so I haven't been thinking about 12' wide doors.... so far...

I'm mainly designing it for storage of 2-3 vehicles (including a 2-post lift), with space in the back corner (where the green mower is) for larger tools (bandsaw, chop-saw, etc.).

Thanks in advance!

I did 2- 12x12’s on my 40x50. The way it laid out on my lot dictated it. I’m not sure there’s a perfect design. It works well for me. Against some of the opinions here, I also did a 10x10 on the side for airflow and the eventual “patio” area. I get a killer ocean breeze through my shop.
*ignore the smoke filled air that looks like I’m in China....that’s Just wildfire season here*