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WisJim

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I collect hand tools for drilling, especially bit braces, hand drills, and breast drills, and their accessories (bit extensions, angle adapters and chain drills etc). Any of the you also collecting/accumulating these tools? I'm always on the lookout for interesting/odd/unusual variations, especially researching the maker and patents. Here's a picture of some of them on one wall in my old shop. I hope to have better displays when I get moved to a new shop and get them organized by patent dates.
 

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woody 73

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Very nice collection you have there...:rocker::rocker::rocker:

My problem is with all the different posts of mega collections (and I do drool) is that my dollars are stretched very thin if you know know what I mean; so I must choose in a different way.
 

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I have a few odd drills including McClellans patents and the pull cord operated Hjorths patent. Do you know Jim Schoenky in CA.? He has pretty much everything in drills.
 

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WisJim

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I haven't found a Hjorth that I can afford, but I do have a McClellan like yours and also an Adams that is similar. Also have a few different McClellan corner braces. I have lots of fun looking for them and then figuring out what I have. Woody, I'm sort of a low budget guy so I can't always afford to get everything I find out there--and we like the country and the people around here.
 

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Wow, quite a collection there!

I have a handful of old braces- a couple nicer old wood Millers Falls and Stanley, and some cheapies to cannibalize parts from (chuck jaws mostly) and for pumpkin duty. And a slew of old bits I need to learn to sharpen well.

At this point I'm only looking for narrow or wide sweep versions- mine are all 10".
 

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I was going to say I dont collect them, just have 2 I keep as they are interesting to me. The first one is unique and has no makers stamp. The second one got me into tool collecting so I have hung onto it.
Then I remembered I do have a couple in the garage up on the wall more for decoration than other reason.

Brian
 

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Oldtuleguy

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I thought about collecting some but apparently you have all of them! Impressive collection.
 

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I have about a dozen, nothing really unique, think 6-12”, the usual suspects. And they hide in a drawer under the lathe, except for ones out for project work.
 
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Here are a couple of my favorite braces. Top is Smith's patent of 1883, middle is Chantrell's 1882 patent, and the bottom is Darling's 1868 patent brace. I'll dig out some others that are somewhat unusual and takes some pictures of them.
 

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I have 3 braces and 2 hand drills, and don't have any intention on accumulating a collection...
They all get some use, though 2 of the braces are a bit redundant. (You gotta have a backup in case one breaks).
My small boys really like the smaller hand crank drill.
 

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They all get some use, though 2 of the braces are a bit redundant.

One to drill the hole, one to countersink, one to drive the screw home. You are short one. And that’s only for one size screw. You don’t cHange bits between each operation do you?
 

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I cleaned up a couple of rusty braces today. I posted the Miller’s Falls on that thread but I’ll duplicate it here. It’s embarrassing to admit but I had to consult YouTube to get the Stanley‘s jaws reinstalled correctly.
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I pared down the brace pile. The damn things have a tendency to breed if you aren't careful. I think I only have left : 3 or 4 Frays; a Yankee in each size; and a MF Parson's with shiny red handles. Plus the ones I actually use, which are a 6" MF with a philips bit and the Stanley handyman that my Dad bought when he became a homeowner and I've used since childhood. There may be one or two others hiding in dark corners of the shop trying to avoid being thrown in the "to be sold" bin. I am actually going to praise a Stanley handyman tool here. It is old enough to have a rosewood handle. . The Handyman is 1/16" thinner and weighs notably less than the regular 1250 braces. I've never found a circumstance where the thinner crank felt like it would twist and it is well balanced. Unlike most handyman tools, I think it was an improvement, not a crappy substitute.
 

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I found this old brace last year and finally got around to putting it under the magnifying glass, to try to decipher the fine print, which reads, "Amidon's Patent July 20, '80. Manf'd by Saxon & Amidon Buffalo, N.Y."

four.cycle shared the following link in his "List of Manufacturers" thread


I also found this page that tells a lot about Charles Amidon's life.




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This is the chuck that he patented. It is marked July 20, but according to the link above, it was actually issued on April 20th.

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I recently found a box to keep my braces in and have the bits in the tray. I'm a sucker for the rosewood knobs and handles. The STANLEY NO. 984 corner brace was a fun one to find.

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I don’t look to add anymore braces to the few I have but this Stanley was just too nice to pass up plus the price was also very attractive. I grabbed the lightly used expansive bit to go along with it.
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I have 1 in my collection. A few auger bits and 1 nut driver.
 

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I've been trying to figure out how to store and display my braces in my new shop. I got rid of a few dozen when we moved and I'm trying to organize them better. These are high enough to be mostly out of the way yet low enough to reach them if I want to use one.
 

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I've been trying to figure out how to store and display my braces in my new shop. I got rid of a few dozen when we moved and I'm trying to organize them better. These are high enough to be mostly out of the way yet low enough to reach them if I want to use one.

I use a version of that system, with the horizontal bar spanning joists in the basement (my workshop is down there). But I have just 11 braces, so there's only two bars, and I put spacer blocks on top of the bars to keep them from snagging each other. Whatever works is good.

My "collection" began with a 10-inch Peck, Stow, & Wilcox model 102. I got it from my mother's father who worked as a handyman in boatyards along the coast north of Boston in the years after the First World War. He must have bought it second hand because it was made around the time he was born (late 1880s); the patent date on the pin-selector ratchet is December 30, 1884.

I bought a second 102 because I found in use that it helped to have more than one brace if a project involves more than just boring a hole. For example, driving a screw or countersinking or just making more than holes in one size.

In the photo, the five across the top are all 10-inch PSWs: models 102, 102, 152, 1002, and 8120; my grandfather's is at top left. The 8120 (with the fat chuck) is a Samson which I disassembled the chuck and replaced all its ball bearings. (Despite an 1895 patent date, that chuck can lock tight onto round-shank drill bits and hex-shank drivers as well as traditional four-sided tapered tangs.)

The three on the right are by Fray: a 7-inch all-metal Spofford style, an 8-inch ratchetless 508, and a 10-inch 106 with pewter rings on the rosewood wrist, plus a rosewood palm pad. At bottom are a 10-inch Worth (made by PSW), a 10-inch Bell System North/Stanley, and finally a 12-inch Stanley 921.

While I've gone a bit overboard in aquisitions, I don't see these as collector's pieces. All are in the lineup to be used for projects as needed, and all have been used by me at one time or another. To that end I have cleaned off rust as needed, cleaned and lubed chucks and ball-bearing palm pads, and sanded the wooden parts down to clean wood then applied shellac and wax.

The brace from my grandfather is, I think, the oldest tool I own and I always get a kick out of using it on a project. Despite being 130+ years old, it works perfectly. Collecting old tools for the sake of oldness doesn't interest me much, but when they can be used to meet a need in the shop, I'm delighted to work with them.
 

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I really like the idea of a bit-brace toolbox! Electric drills have been around all my life (can't say I've ever seen someone use a hand drill before) but I come across the braces (not the bits) quite frequently for cheap. I might need to make myself one of these boxes "just cause".
If you are gonna make a user box, this is the coolest thing I've seen. Several different flavors, but where the brace handle is also the case handle.


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Not a collection, more like an accumulation.
A basic tool.
 

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Before I retired, I use to install a fair amount of mortise locks in 1-3/4" exterior doors. My preferred method was to use this brace & bit, and sharp Jennings pattern bits. The stick of wood clamped to the door is my level indicator, and the blue tape on the Jennings bit is my depth stop.

This one was a MainDoor, solid Mahogany, $3,500 door. Not the kind of thing ya want to make a mistake on.

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I used the brace since I was 7 or 8 years old. It is marked, "Hibbard True Value", altho I never noticed the imprint until just this year. It is very faintly stamped.
 
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