1/4" socket spinner with recess?

[visionguru]

Re: 1/4" socket spinner with recess?

That definitely looks like a Williams/S-O handle. $21+ ship??


Any others from Germany???

$10 + tax from a local Caterpilla dealer parts department. I think some of the Caterpillar tools have the same quality level as Snap On, not Williams, for example, CAT ratcheting screw driver is the same as Snap On, with different handle shape from Williams ratcheting screwdriver.

 

[Ralf11]

you don't want the end of the handle to be too sharp & dig into your palm - the Japanese ones look too sharp to me

I have an old Snappy that is fine; the Proto looks good, as does the Wright - which is red, so has to be best...

 

[mikebaker1129]

Visionguru how much does that Cat ratcheting screwdriver run ?
That one does have a different handle shape from the Williams!
It looks very nice, just curious if it is closer to the Williams or Snap On price.


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[n8n]

Re: 1/4" socket spinner with recess?

$10 + tax from a local Caterpilla dealer parts department. I think some of the Caterpillar tools have the same quality level as Snap On, not Williams, for example, CAT ratcheting screw driver is the same as Snap On, with different handle shape from Williams ratcheting screwdriver.

wow, have to check that out, that is my favorite screwdriver, but mine is branded Snap-On

Edit: it's $50 from my local CAT dealer so they've caught on...

 

[NUTTSGT]

The first one I got came from NAPA, Evercraft maybe ?

Found it laying in the street.

 

[visionguru]

Visionguru how much does that Cat ratcheting screwdriver run ?
That one does have a different handle shape from the Williams!
It looks very nice, just curious if it is closer to the Williams or Snap On price.


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$42. Already had Snap On version, otherwise, I'd have picked up that one as well.

 

[theoldwizard1]

That doesn't have the square drive on the end for a ratchet.

The 43372 DOES have a square drive in the top, you just can not see it in that picture. They SO make one without the square drive, but the top has a knob like other Craftsman screwdrivers. This is flat.

 

[Rabid Badger]

If you're not obsessed with labels this one is excellent and cheap:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000W0MZOC/?tag=atomicindus08-20

I'm convinced it's identical to the Williams-branded import.

 

[mikebaker1129]

$42. Already had Snap On version, otherwise, I'd have picked up that one as well.

Thank you!

 

[macgee]

A couple of euro ones, but these were the only ones I could find ???? Doesn't seem like a popular tool in Euro?

Wurth Zebra 0613430310

BAHCO 6956, pricey and doesn't seem too impressive but there old German acetate 3/8 version looks nice.

Gedore r38950001, way cheaper but Taiwan coo

Britool D50, in UK

Beta 900BG, maybe has a female?

More US randoms:

Wright Tool 2442

Kimble 841452 https://www.kimballmidwest.com/841452

Allen 10915 USA



*** Now I know why the all metal knurled M110 Williams get so much money. The small hole you see on the knurling, its for a ball lock to keep the handle from spinning when using as a driver. When using it as an extension you unlock it and the handle spins freely as you turn the shaft with ratchet, pretty slick.

 

[belvedere]

NAPA 774-1277...less than $5. I have a couple of them, and they work well.

 

[measuredtwice]

Re: 1/4" socket spinner with recess?

So, this has yet been mentioned:
US made, by Snap On(?), cheaper than most brands mentioned. It's good the check with the "Truck equivalent" thread.

They used to be more expensive. Do you know if this is old stock or current? The website photo shows the black handle but the description says the handle is amber yellow.

CAT dealer says the photos are usually wrong and we won't know unless I buy it and have it sent to the store. I don't want to order a bunch of them if they've replaced it with a lesser version like they did with the 3 piece pliers set.

$10 + tax from a local Caterpilla dealer parts department. I think some of the Caterpillar tools have the same quality level as Snap On, not Williams, for example, CAT ratcheting screw driver is the same as Snap On, with different handle shape from Williams ratcheting screwdriver.

Visionguru how much does that Cat ratcheting screwdriver run ?
That one does have a different handle shape from the Williams!
It looks very nice, just curious if it is closer to the Williams or Snap On price.

I think that photo is out of date or just wrong. The real ones that I've seen look like the Williams/New Holland/Case IH. Photo below.

And here's an old post with a similar experience.

...When i look their ratcheting screwdriver up on the website it shows the snap on version but the one they sell is the Williams style. I know it's just me being picky but I kinda would prefer the snap on version...

 

[visionguru]

Re: 1/4" socket spinner with recess?

They used to be more expensive. Do you know if this is old stock or current? The website photo shows the black handle but the description says the handle is amber yellow.
...

I picked up the spinner handler in early spring 2020. It seemed not old stock because I had to wait for a week before the dealer got the part in (from parts distribution center?).

Not sure about the ratcheting screwdriver, but I do remember seeing Snap On handled version on eBay before.

 

[fang123]

The 43372 DOES have a square drive in the top, you just can not see it in that picture. They SO make one without the square drive, but the top has a knob like other Craftsman screwdrivers. This is flat.

Hmmmm.

 

[measuredtwice]

Re: 1/4" socket spinner with recess?

I picked up the spinner handler in early spring 2020. It seemed not old stock because I had to wait for a week before the dealer got the part in (from parts distribution center?).

Not sure about the ratcheting screwdriver, but I do remember seeing Snap On handled version on eBay before.

Thank you for the info. I wish dealers provided better product information since returns are for store credit (not cash back) and there's a 15% - 25% restock fee for non stocked parts.

 

[Iowafox]

I honestly say go to Napa and get the Napa Carlyle 1/4 spinner handle. Like post #32 posted looks exactly alike! Napa's is a extension with a blue generic handle on it. I've used mine for the past few years and no issues. I also seen the same one but different handle at fleet farm and at a few other farm and home stores for around $5. There one of the tools where I imagine don't really matter where it's made since they don't get alot of torque on them due to drive size. I however say you need to get a 3/8 drive one!! I have 2 from MAC tools and it's one of my most used tools for some reason. 1/4 dr is handy but 3/8 is the bees knees!!!

 

[davethorik]

Wright Tool 2441

The 2441 is a standard 1/4 spinner, no female drive. The 2442 has the female drive.

 

[macgee]

The 2441 is a standard 1/4 spinner, no female drive. The 2442 has the female drive.

Good eye. Online there's several places selling the 2441 with a picture of the 2442

I'll edit my post.

 

[designer485]

Cat Part #9S-1722 ordered Tuesday, delivered Thursday. Identical to the Snap-On version but only 1/4 the price. $11 shipped to my door (free shipping). My only gripe would be that 4 sides of the square drive is not parallel to the 4 sides of the handle, they are turned slightly. Kind of looks like it could be a quality reject, but it doesn't really matter to me.

 

[measuredtwice]

Cat Part #9S-1722 ordered Tuesday, delivered Thursday. Identical to the Snap-On version but only 1/4 the price. $11 shipped to my door (free shipping). My only gripe would be that 4 sides of the square drive is not parallel to the 4 sides of the handle, they are turned slightly. Kind of looks like it could be a quality reject, but it doesn't really matter to me.

I bought a bunch for Christmas gifts and they were a big hit.

Not sure about the ratcheting screwdriver, but I do remember seeing Snap On handled version on eBay before.

I found a photo of an old one from past Ebay auctions. The current stock that I've seen looks like the Williams.

 

[macgee]

If you're not obsessed with labels this one is excellent and cheap:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000W0MZOC/?tag=atomicindus08-20

I'm convinced it's identical to the Williams-branded import.

I ended up ordering one to find out what you get for $8 delivered to my door. It's just a spinner nothing too special, it is made in Taiwan, not china.

The shaft goes all the way to the female insert, one piece and feels solid, not light, the female socket locks the ratchet in well, no real play worth mentioning, the male fit my sockets similar to my other male 1/4". The handle size diameter is smaller than a Craftsman but totally useable, I like this handle size for a spinner. Not sure I would want the larger handle size of the S-O/Cat for a 1/4" spinner.

The color is a root beer, not bad but nothing special either. Probably the same as Williams, I think the blue would be better (personal preference).

If you need a spinner for $8, it does the job and I like the smaller diameter handle size and the female socket lock a ratchet, torque wrench or a mini breaker bar in well.

 

[macgee]

Can anyone recommend a German made 1/4" spinner with a female socket handle?

Does Hazet or Wiha make one?

 

[measuredtwice]

Can anyone recommend a German made 1/4" spinner with a female socket handle?

Does Hazet or Wiha make one?

Wurth has one with a female end. The plastic handle part is probably made in Germany but I don't know if the socket part is German or imported like most of their socket stuff. I think it comes from the same factory as the Felo but that one lacks a female end.

 

[BlakeTheCarGuy]

I think Wera does if I remember correctly.


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[ChevyEFI]

They used to be more expensive. Do you know if this is old stock or current? The website photo shows the black handle but the description says the handle is amber yellow.

The new spinner handle came in black handle as pictured above for me recently.

 

[tool_scrounge]

I like the ancient Williams NM-110 spinner as it gives fingertip control and can have the handle locked or spinning. The link is to the Alloy Artifacts entry. Mine is different in that it also includes a matching 3/8 to 1/4" drive adapter (shown).

http://alloy-artifacts.org/williams-supercompany-p3.html#williams-nm110

 

[Ralf11]

You'd think Ko-ken or Nepros would make one of those like the Williams.

 

[SuperCat]

tool_scrounge, does that 1/4 to 3/8 adapter have a model number stamped on it?
I have seen (but do not have ) the Williams NM-110 spinner handle before and I believe there is a Plomb branded version as well.
I did not know a matching adapter existed. Every day on GJ is an education!

 

[ChevyEFI]

You'd think Ko-ken or Nepros would make one of those like the Williams.

Deen has 1/4 and 3/8 hard handle versions.

 

[ForrestT]

Cat Part #9S-1722 ordered Tuesday, delivered Thursday. Identical to the Snap-On version but only 1/4 the price. $11 shipped to my door (free shipping). My only gripe would be that 4 sides of the square drive is not parallel to the 4 sides of the handle, they are turned slightly. Kind of looks like it could be a quality reject, but it doesn't really matter to me.

How did you get free shipping?



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[stonesfan68]

Mac makes this type of tool in various lengths. They are very handy.

Mac Tools Hand Driver Locking Extension

 

[tool_scrounge]

tool_scrounge, does that 1/4 to 3/8 adapter have a model number stamped on it?
I have seen (but do not have ) the Williams NM-110 spinner handle before and I believe there is a Plomb branded version as well.
I did not know a matching adapter existed. Every day on GJ is an education!

No markings at all on the adapter. The adapter is nice in that you can turn the socket with it while holding the spinning (unlocked) long sleeve as a guide.

 

[designer485]

How did you get free shipping?



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Shop.Cat.com and they have free shipping currently. Not sure if that is always the case, but it is right now.

 

[macgee]

Shop.Cat.com and they have free shipping currently. Not sure if that is always the case, but it is right now.

Not easy to find on their site but here is the link for the spinner. And yes, it's free shipping for this, even for a $10 tool.

https://shop.cat.com/en/usa-parts/9S-1722

Looks good but I don't think I would want such a large diameter handle for a 1/4" extension that I could always quickly add a T-handle to for more torque.

I ended up ordering one to find out what you get for $8 delivered to my door. It's just a spinner nothing too special, it is made in Taiwan, not china.

The shaft goes all the way to the female insert, one piece and feels solid, not light, the female socket locks the ratchet in well, no real play worth mentioning, the male fit my sockets similar to my other male 1/4". The handle size diameter is smaller than a Craftsman but totally useable, I like this handle size for a spinner. Not sure I would want the larger handle size of the S-O/Cat for a 1/4" spinner.

The color is a root beer, not bad but nothing special either. Probably the same as Williams, I think the blue would be better (personal preference).

If you need a spinner for $8, it does the job and I like the smaller diameter handle size and the female socket lock a ratchet, torque wrench or a mini breaker bar in well.

The Williams just arrived in with a batch order from Zoro, it's $10 and can confirm its the exact same spinner as the $8 root beer one on Amazon. Exact same measurements taken with caliper, also marked Taiwan. Both are totally fine to use and like the small diameter handle but would like to find something nicer.

 

[measuredtwice]

Not easy to find on their site but here is the link for the spinner. And yes, it's free shipping for this, even for a $10 tool.

https://shop.cat.com/en/usa-parts/9S-1722

Looks good but I don't think I would want such a large diameter handle for a 1/4" extension that I could always quickly add a T-handle to for more torque.



The Williams just arrived in with a batch order from Zoro, it's $10 and can confirm its the exact same spinner as the $8 root beer one on Amazon. Exact same measurements taken with caliper, also marked Taiwan. Both are totally fine to use and like the small diameter handle but would like to find something nicer.

Don't really see the appeal to those handles. Even more so when the price is so close to the CAT/Snap-On handle. But different things appeal to different people. There's probably some mark up on those handles for brand name and shipping since locally a Taiwan handle with female end costs around $3.79 at Fleet Farm.

"would like to find something nicer."

You might reconsider the CAT handle. The Snap-On/CAT handle might not be such "large diameter" as it looks. I don't have a Craftsman handy for comparison but here's a comparison next to a Craftsman Phillips 2. IIRK that's similar in size. I also added the Proto which is similar in price. IMO there's not a big difference in the diameters. They're all small. The Proto is shorter. If I need something thinner, then I'd just use an extension instead.

The square handle on the Snap-On/Cat makes it easier to torque on than the more rounded handles of the others. ..especially if grip is compromised by oil.

 

[measuredtwice]

Here's a photo of the CAT 9S-1722, Snap-On TM4CSA and Snap-On SGT4B.

The Instinct handle on the SGT4B is much bigger which is probably why they didn't put a female end on it. You can definitely get a lot of torque with that big handle.

Regarding the alignment of the ball detent with the logo that someone mentioned previously... I don't think Snap-On is trying to align them. As you can see in my photo, the CAT is actually more aligned than both of the Snap-On branded ones. It's probably just coincidence.

 

[Ralf11]

the wrenching fixture is supposed to take care of torque needs

 

[measuredtwice]

the wrenching fixture is supposed to take care of torque needs

If more torque was needed, a t-handle on the female end would probably be enough for me on 1/4 drive. The 3/8 drive SGF50 has a place for a wrench. It does not have a female end though.

 

[visionguru]

If more torque was needed, a t-handle on the female end would probably be enough for me on 1/4 drive. The 3/8 drive SGF50 has a place for a wrench. It does not have a female end though.

This Genius seems a good idea for more torque:

Not sure if anyone other than Genius is making something similar.

 

[macgee]

the wrenching fixture is supposed to take care of torque needs

Correct,

For this type a tool accessory, you only need a small handle for low torque hand turning and since this is being used as an extension, having a smaller diameter handle will be less of an issue in tight spots which which is one of the reasons why this is being used as an extension. A T-handle, breaker bar or ratchet will quickly take care of any torque needed or greasey slippery conditions. Thats the beauty of a spinner handle with a female socket.