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There is soooo much flex to the body and frame that if I park the van at an angle and open the rear door and tire carrier that I can't get the tire carrier closed again. Even right now with the 37" tires that extra weight has made sliding that pin a bit of a pain whereas with 35" tires it was fine.
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The post where you make a tube frame is going to be epic! You're going to need a bigger garage.
 
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An option I considered was building the ladder into the tire carrier but again, it's at the limit for alignment. I think Ben's set up has the ladder as a second built in on the bumper so it swings out but his bumper is more rigid and I want to preserve the convenience of that one door.

Yeah, my Land Cruiser has two arms that clamp together over the center of the bumper, one arm carries the spare and the other the ladder. My truck is also a good deal narrower than yours and my tires are just 33x10.5. I wouldn’t be surprised if your wheels and tires weigh twice what mine do.
 

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In my experience that's probably the worst place to mount a spare tyre. A few years ago I worked for a resource exploration company here in Australia as a vehicle fitter. We used nothing but Toyota Landcruiser based Utes/pickups and they all had the spare wheel mounted under the rear of the vehicle. To lower the spare you used the crank handle off the jack, put through a gap in the frame and used it to lower the spare wheel which was mounted on a chain and the crank handle turned a cogged wheel which lowered it to the ground. Reverse the operation to put the other wheel back into the space in the chassis. Apart from getting the spare out of the way as the whole operation was carried out on the ground there was no risk of injuries from struggling with a heavy wheel and tyre assembly. It removed any need for frames, cranes and other equipment that would move the COG higher than it needed to be. Before you get too involved in making frames, mounts, hoists etc just look under the vehicle and see how much space you might have.
 

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In my experience that's probably the worst place to mount a spare tyre. A few years ago I worked for a resource exploration company here in Australia as a vehicle fitter. We used nothing but Toyota Landcruiser based Utes/pickups and they all had the spare wheel mounted under the rear of the vehicle. To lower the spare you used the crank handle off the jack, put through a gap in the frame and used it to lower the spare wheel which was mounted on a chain and the crank handle turned a cogged wheel which lowered it to the ground. Reverse the operation to put the other wheel back into the space in the chassis. Apart from getting the spare out of the way as the whole operation was carried out on the ground there was no risk of injuries from struggling with a heavy wheel and tyre assembly. It removed any need for frames, cranes and other equipment that would move the COG higher than it needed to be. Before you get too involved in making frames, mounts, hoists etc just look under the vehicle and see how much space you might have.

Yes, that is how every van and pickup is from the factory in the US as well, probably what this van had from the factory. Gregor will have to say why he decided to mount it where it is but I suspect a tire as large as he is running simply won't fit. Either that or the fuel tank is under there like my old F250s second tank was.
 

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Following as a welcome distraction to the other media outlets. While 8 episodes of Grand Design gets me through work, I need some projects that are within my grasp to wind down with.
 
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In my experience that's probably the worst place to mount a spare tyre....
Before you get too involved in making frames, mounts, hoists etc just look under the vehicle and see how much space you might have.

The space between the rails is too narrow to fit anything over a 33" tire (sorry tyre for you!) and I studied a lot of Australian off road builds (as they seem to be the most creative) for alternative ideas but the things I liked were very complicated (surprise!). The other reason to move the spare is that I'd planned on putting a second tank in that spot. Not sure I'll still do that but I have the option.

Yes, that is how every van and pickup is from the factory in the US as well, probably what this van had from the factory. Gregor will have to say why he decided to mount it where it is but I suspect a tire as large as he is running simply won't fit. Either that or the fuel tank is under there like my old F250s second tank was.

Yes, that's how the van and my pickup are. I hate the pickup's because it uses this stupid key which can get lost (I bought three and keep them in the glovebox, the side pocket and with the jack). But the reason I mounted the spare high up is to clear the tail lights - something that almost all other vans seem to block.


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Before I could weld the tubes to the mount I needed to finish the mount. With the discussion of the frame flex in my mind I decided that I should have it clamp to the rail just to be safe. I measured the angle of the body (20 degrees) and then milled a flat and right angle so that I could take some scrap aluminum angle and fit that into the space.

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I drilled and tapped the angle and block and then milled the angle flush so it would look clean. This is not even close to what I was planning but I think it's a lot better than what I drew. It doesn't need to be too strong so hopefully the threads hold in the aluminum. If not then I'll helicoil them. I should probably just do that but for the moment I'm going to see how it holds up.

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Since I bent the back upright I'm going to base the whole thing off the front one since it's straight and should be vertical. My tack is actually a few beads since my first tack was small and didn't hold - aluminum needs some very serious tacks.

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My plan was to look at the spacing of the rungs, clamp a couple into place and then pull the whole thing off as a unit and then tack the two rungs in to hold the structure.

That was a complete bust.

The top clamps are very snug in the drip rail and the ladder just can't stay straight while being tapped out and off the body. I spent about an hour trying to reassemble the thing to my marks on the welding table and it was an exercise in frustration; twisting, turning, and not staying square. By then it was dark so I gave up. I think the only way I'll be able to do this is to actually clamp and tack it in place on the body of the van when it's in the right position.

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Since that plan was a bust I decided to spend some time practicing my welds on the coped drops. I scotchbrited them all and wiped them down with alcohol...

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And for some magic reason my brain has been practicing aluminum welding in the background while I've been practicing wheelies. Much like wheelies the "zone" seems to have become wider and that spot between too cold and too hot seems easier to find and control. Also, this is 1/8" thick tubing so it can take a lot of heat before running away. That was my whole plan for this ladder and roof rack - thick tube that would be easier to weld and I'd have the chance to run a LOT of bead.

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So while these aren't "Instagram Welds" they are by far the best beads I've done on aluminum so far. Certainly my best coped tubes which is much trickier. I still need to work on consistency and stopping before I get too out of position but overall I'm pleased.

Tomorrow I should be able to get the ladder tacked in and probably welded up and then I'll make the bottom mount to lock it in place.

Gregor
 

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The ladder is coming along really nice and I like the design. It’s great that you are building it out of aluminum to keep the weight down while also challenging yourself and refining your welding skills.
 

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Nice work so far on the ladder and your practice welds.

So in practice when you get to the top of the ladder, what will you grab onto to pull yourself onto the roof? The roof looks smooth so if you aren't leaning the proper way, you might find yourself back on the ground before you know it!
 
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The ladder is coming along really nice and I like the design. It’s great that you are building it out of aluminum to keep the weight down while also challenging yourself and refining your welding skills.

A thin gauge steel would probably be a better choice but like you said, I wanted aluminum for the challenge of welding it. Mindlessly running beads on coupons is both boring and wasteful to me. I know I can weld well enough that it will be safe so now's the time to put the hood down and work on my beads. Straight line welds aren't hard but wrapping a bead around a tube joint is so I'll give myself a lot of them!

Nice work so far on the ladder and your practice welds.

So in practice when you get to the top of the ladder, what will you grab onto to pull yourself onto the roof? The roof looks smooth so if you aren't leaning the proper way, you might find yourself back on the ground before you know it!

Yeah, right now it will be sketchy when you get to the top but the plan is that the roof rack will be the "next rung" so to speak.

The ladder is doing the job it was intended which is to get my mind around the problems of bending and fitting the tubes. What I've learned is that I have very little space to build such a big "thing" so I'm going to need to build it in sections and then put them together.

Because I want a flat platform the first thing I'll do is bend two "ends" - four foot sections with 90 degree corners. I'll then just add sections of straight tube to make the large 4' x 8' main base. Next I'll make feet to attach that to the roof and then I'll build off that; a rail, cross members, mounts for sand ladder, and extension to the front to for lights.

I need the mobility to build in small sections that I keep adding on since there's zero space for a 4' x 12' rack in the garage.

Gregor
 
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So in the daylight and with a full night of sleep I got back on the ladder. Often times the best way to do something is not the easy way and in this case it meant fitting all the tubes onto the van and pulling the welder out onto the wet driveway and tacking the tubes insitu. I ended up tacking in three tubes on the van so I could be sure it wouldn't rack coming off but it slipped off without any trouble.

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Welding something in place so so much harder than when you can place it. I used to think I should try to weld in all positions to practice but now I've decided that I will always try to make myself as comfortable as I can. My welds are better that way. One thing that has been good is switching up hands and feet - at this point I can use either hand for the torch or rod and either foot for the pedal. I'm a little better with the torch in my right hand but I can do either and that really helps with some tight spots.

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This is something between a tack and weld. I knew that if I wasn't generous on my bead that things would rack and the tacks would break. I'm pulsing with my foot, all 200 amps and then letting the puddle cool almost to solidifying and moving to the next one. It's helping keep the heat down and allowing me to put a lot of rod in - each bead is almost 1/2" of 3/32 4043 rod.

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With the straight rungs tacked in I measured the angle of the top part of the ladder - 11-12 degrees - and then tipped the head of the Bridgeport.

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In order to make sure the tube notch or "fish mouth" is in the same axis each time I took a scrap tube and just clamped it down as a stop. This vertical tube keeps the cut on the other end in line.

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Sean had turned me on to some really nice fine toothed hole saws but aluminum, especially this .125 wall tube, can be easily cut with a normal wood style hole saw provided you use plenty of lube or coolant. This really helps to keep the teeth clean and cutting.

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The tubes just need a bit of clean up on the edges but otherwise the fit up is very good.

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In the end I decided on 9" on center spacing. I think a normal ladder is closer to 12" but since the kids will be using it and I'll most likely be carrying cameras up it seemed like tighter spacing would be nicer. Plus I like the way that it looked. I don't want anyone to mistake this for an Aluminess ladder.

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I test fit it in the dark before the top two rungs went on and the fitup was solid. I'll check it again in the morning and then finish welding the tubes in and figure out what my mount will be at the bottom. Fingers crossed it will be done this weekend.

Gregor
 

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These updates are very inspirational for many us. I'm in a similar place, needing to weld coped tubes in 4130. This update gives me the "mojo boost" that's needed right now. I only wish I had your fantastic tool collection. Notching on a mill looks far more accurate than using tools like a "Notchmaster".

Thanks again..out to the garage!
 
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These updates are very inspirational for many us. I'm in a similar place, needing to weld coped tubes in 4130. This update gives me the "mojo boost" that's needed right now. I only wish I had your fantastic tool collection. Notching on a mill looks far more accurate than using tools like a "Notchmaster".

Thanks again..out to the garage!

I have one of those (types) of notchers - mine is a JMR. I got it many years ago when I wanted to start this process of frame building. I will say that those notchers make adjusting the angle much easier because you don't think about how you have to now re-tram your head on the mill. They work great as long as all your tubes are meeting on center and have no compound angles. The mill is one step beyond since it lets you change the intersection easily but compound angles are still tricky. Something I'll be looking at when I start my bike frame.

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The drawers have dividers but not a bunch so it remains to be seen what I'll put in it. A new cabinet throws your shop organization into chaos with the promise of a better future - but you have to figure that out.

Pushing the empty cabinet with the high and heavy drill press was scary. You don't want to move this so the wheels are maybe not a permanent solution. Once

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Gregor,
I know you probably already know this but Schaller boxes are perfect for the vidmar and lista cabinets and drawers. And this is the craziest part they are cheaper than 3D printing them at home. Top drawer of my lista is all schaller boxes, its a junk drawer but a nicely organized junk drawer.

as far as the wheels are concerned I have used the ones with wheels and rubber feet in the past, I just installed a really heavy duty seton my Felder jointer/planer that weighs north of 1500 pounds. now I can move it, clean behind it or under it then move and re-level and its not going anywhere. Sure beat the 3200 mobility kit from Felder!

I am about 14 months behind but was randomly clicking through the thread and saw the pics, now I better get back to catching up
 
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Gregor,
I know you probably already know this but Schaller boxes are perfect for the vidmar and lista cabinets and drawers. And this is the craziest part they are cheaper than 3D printing them at home.

I have started to put things in the Vidmar but I don't have a plan yet. I have been impressed that all my lathe chucks and plates fit in one drawer and it's well over 100lbs.



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After checking the fit up (it was good) I set about finish welding the rungs in. The bottom rung was just a bit twisted out and while I saw it early I decided to not mess with it as fixing it was going to be impossible and replacing it was not worth it. I considered trying to fit the tube by hand but as I was feeling cocky with my aluminum welding I figured I'd leave it and see if I could fill the gap.

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It wasn't a problem. In fact I was finding that I could take my time and really pay attention to the weld and how much the aluminum wet out, how much filler changed the profile of the bead, how much I needed to let off between pulses.

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Today was one of the best welding days I've had. I've always loved welding and machining aluminum but today I felt like I turned a corner.

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Right up to the end where I attempted to close up my first tube and forgot that I'd not put a vent hole in. If I'd been thinking ahead I'd have drilled under where the tube went so that it would vent into the long vertical tube. But I didn't. As you attempt to close off a tube the air inside gets super heated and expands and if you don't have a place to vent it will explode out - which it did.

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It cleaned up fine and I drilled some holes in all the rungs and I'll just put a dab of glue or epoxy on them before I paint it.

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Once all the rungs were welded into place I fit the ladder to the rail again and decided to clearance a small amount for the vertical part of the rail. This should give it a little more purchase and a tighter clamp.

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The block was radiused to snug into the seam and then drilled through for 8mm flat head bolts.

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I'm super happy with the fit up so far - it's very tight.

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After all the clamps were tightened down the ladder was rock solid. Zero movement or flex. I was able to bounce the entire van by jumping on it. I am very happy with how burly it is - much better than I expected. I'm going to get some more bed liner tomorrow and get it painted and then start to think about the roof rack.

I will say that the ladder really changes the van. Being able to get onto the roof so easily changes the whole feel and adds a lot of practicality to the van. Now to think about the platform.

Gregor
 

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Gregor, just tack the vent holes closed. We have to drill vents throughout for truss buildups. If the gear is going to an outdoor project we have to close all of them and a quick tack does the trick. RVT or silicone will have to be redone periodically, and water freezing inside the tube will result in a lot more work for you. I have some great pics from inspections when that happens.

And I’m still disappointed you didn’t knurl the rungs. But I’ll get over it. Eventually.
 

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The ladder looks great! If you decide to go with a thread insert on the top mounts, I’ve had really good luck with Timeserts. They work great for seat mounts when using an aluminum subframe.
 

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incredible work!

Check out this tool from Sputnik for some ideas about how to clock tubes for compound miters. http://www.sputniktool.com/small-tooling/segmented-strut-mitering-tool/ I bet some elements of the design could inspire you to come up with an amazing solution. Something like that could be built into the indexing end of the miter fixture I made and you'd have the ultimate in tube mitering accuracy for length, angle and phase, so long as the tubes are straight. Bent tubes obviously add another layer of difficulty, but I'm sure you're up for it.
 

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Ladder looks great (of course). Since you weren't excited about a side mount ladder, did you consider a removable ladder? I've seen them with hooks that go over the top rail of the roof rack and hinged in the middle to make them easier to store.
 

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The block was radiused to snug into the seam and then drilled through for 8mm flat head bolts.

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You mentioned earlier that the van has a bit of flex, though more in relationship to the frame to body, so the following my or may not be warranted.
Plus I'm really not familiar with that vehicle specifically. /end disclaimer
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You may consider (& maybe already did) backing the Pinch Rail with a piece of angle steel stock, that spans a bit past each mounting point.
Adding a gusset or 2 behind each mount & one midspan.
My thinking is that it would help keep the Pinch Rail from deforming if the ladder becomes snagged, overloaded or some other type of "off center load" on the rungs happened to one mount more than the other.
Heck you could even weld on some captured nuts that would allow easier removal if/when necessary.
Just a though.

In all I have a a great appreciation for your talents.
This thread always delivers!

Wishing you & family a great 2021!

Matt
 

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Re: Kranzle Time

So my first post of 2021 - which marks 8 years for this crazy journey and all the diversions, distractions and rabbit holes. I certainly never anticipated that it would become my journal of sorts or that it would become quite so popular but I'm flattered.

I'm astonished that people read the whole thing but I thought people might like to find relevant information quickly so today I started an index. The first post now has hot links to different topics and things - not everything but the things that are useful. I'll keep working on but if you think that I should highlight something specific let me know. Like the pizza recipe for instance.

It's not finished but I'll keep plugging away until it's up to date. More order from chaos!



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If you've followed along you know two things - I'm always looking for the best tools and it can take me a while to take the plunge.

I've owned maybe 4 or 5 pressure washers over the last 20 years and each one cost about $2-300. None of them, save that last commercial one that I rebuilt, was all that great. Probably ever since I've joined here I've been hearing about Kranzle pressure washers as being the "best" but the cost - around $1200 - has put me off. Something about ticking over four digits.

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For the past 3-4 months I've been on a tear selling things in the garage - old tools, parts, camera gear - you name it. I've been trying to make room, declutter and make money that I can turn into something more useful for the shop. Sometime in November my Paypal balance hit $1400 and I decided that it was time to replace the old pressure washer that I'd rebuilt. There wasn't anything wrong with it - it worked great - but it was really noisy, took up a lot of room, I was tired of stepping over it and I DID NOT want to make a new cart for it. No new projects!

Kranzle Time!

I decided to email Kranzle (actually Dirk Killer - the importer) to see if they ever had returns or seconds and it turned out that they do and did and there was a TST1122 on sale that day for $950 - this was a happy coincidence.

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I've had this for over a month but wanted to hold off posting about it until I'd spent some actual time using it. I hate when people review something they just got and haven't used, "I just unpacked it and I give it five stars! I will try it tomorrow!" So I've been washing roofs, driveways, vans and dirt bikes as well as bicycles.

The moment the box arrived from Kranzle I was surprised - it weighs over 80lbs! Double what any other pressure washer I've owned weighed. It is so well made that I instantly regretted how long it took me to get to this point. Slow learner.

The thing that tipped the scale for me was that in my research I kept finding people who've owned a Kranzle for over 20 years. It's German, it's over built like my BMW and I really love the idea of getting something I won't be upgrading again.

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PS If you decide to get one use this link as they have a referral program.


How does this one compare to your 220V unit you rebuilt back in June? How about to other gas units?

I have a 5HP Honda unit but suspect the pump needs some help as sometimes it won’t build pressure. Been debating if I dig into it or just buy something else.

Outside the price the Kranzle is intriguing. Ironically we are staying in FL and that Kranzle you mentioned back in June is still for sale. Not sure could fit in the SUV to haul home. Also not sure if 220V unit would be super convenient.
 
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incredible work!

Check out this tool from Sputnik for some ideas about how to clock tubes for compound miters.

Is it Bingham that uses two rotary tables on top of each other? For mitering I think I miss that horizontal function but I may look for a head for the Bridgeport.

Ladder looks great (of course). Since you weren't excited about a side mount ladder, did you consider a removable ladder? I've seen them with hooks that go over the top rail of the roof rack and hinged in the middle to make them easier to store.

I kept it narrow so it's barely wider than the flares or tires. I certainly didn't want to make one removable as then I'd have to store it. Our house has so little storage and I don't want to clutter the inside of the van.

You may consider (& maybe already did) backing the Pinch Rail with a piece of angle steel stock, that spans a bit past each mounting point.
Adding a gusset or 2 behind each mount & one midspan.
My thinking is that it would help keep the Pinch Rail from deforming if the ladder becomes snagged, overloaded or some other type of "off center load" on the rungs happened to one mount more than the other.
Heck you could even weld on some captured nuts that would allow easier removal if/when necessary.

That's actually a really good idea - especially the captured nuts which you know I love. I might just do that.

How does this one compare to your 220V unit you rebuilt back in June? How about to other gas units?

Outside the price the Kranzle is intriguing. Ironically we are staying in FL and that Kranzle you mentioned back in June is still for sale. Not sure could fit in the SUV to haul home. Also not sure if 220V unit would be super convenient.

That one I rebuilt was actually a 2hp but 120v machine. They seem about the same in terms of power - the older one might actually have a tad more but then it's hard to say because I don't have the same nozzles.

I have no experience with gas units.

I actually contacted that person in FL and the shipping cost was about $400. I was very on the fence about it because I loved the idea of a 220 machine but the practical nature of this - that I can plug it in anywhere and that it stands up are what won me over. If I was in FL I'd have bought that one in a heartbeat.

Took the van and ladder out for a spin. Ended up parking off road and the ladder tore some branches and leaves off but never moved. I think it's solid so I'll leave it for a few days and then this week I'll pull it and paint it. And probably put a bit of angle behind it as was suggested. Also put some Timeserts in my cart. I think I'll use them for the roof rack.

Gregor
 

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Great looking ladder Gregor. As someone just starting their mig welding journey, those aluminium welds look amazing. I can see at some point in the future I'll want a Tig setup just to play with welding aluminium.
 

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Is it Bingham that uses two rotary tables on top of each other? For mitering I think I miss that horizontal function but I may look for a head for the Bridgeport.

I've never seen anyone use two rotary tables together. Is that a thing? I nearly bought a sweet Yuasa tilting rotary table a few years ago but it tilted the wrong way to work with my mill setup the way I like it.

I bet you can score one of those heads in good shape for a few hundred. The horizontal setup with auto x-feed makes mitering pretty nice. I have an 8" Phase II horizontal/vertical table you could always borrow too if you needed it.
 

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Gregor,
Like many other GJ members, I have begun to make pizza inspired by you. Do you mind sharing some ingredient suggestions from the master? What combinations are your family favorites?

Since I haven’t been to a restaurant in 3 months, these pizzas have been my savior every week. The pandemic has been a perfect time to pickup this new delicious hobby.

Three pizzas in one: Pepperoni, Greek and Margherita.
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But I'd be lying if I didn't admit that Carlin and my crash haven't been sort of wound up with each other. Making me wonder if I have any business doing this. No, they're not related. My accident was probably asked for and I got off lightly, Carlin didn't take chances and a mistake took him out.

It's really heavy stuff to contemplate so that's what I've been doing for the last few weeks.

Gregor

This I can relate to...My one and only off at a trackday (racing is a different story:eek2:) was just 2 weeks after my dad died. I also happened to be on a new racebike I was getting a feel for but in hindsight I had no business being out there. Btw small world, that trackday org is now owned and run by 2 people you know, Paul Duval and Kerry. If you're ever in New England, my friends are members at Club Motorsports in NH, you should 100% come ride, it's amazing, and speaking of Ducati, Bruce Myers would be happy to show you the lines and talk Ducati :)
 
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Whelp, It seems 2020 continues...

I'm not sure if you saw this bit of news, but this was a super cool museum in a beautiful setting. Being able to ski up to a motorcycle museum is something I will never ever forget.

https://planetski.eu/2021/01/19/fire-destroys-historic-motorbike-museum-in-austria-ski-resort/

I saw that. It's very sad especially after the similar fate of the motorcycle museum that burned in England. My friend Jamie owns what had been one of only four Norton Monocoque race bikes and two had already been destroyed and the third was burned in that fire. He has the only one left.

Perhaps one of the safest losses in this most recent fire was the loss of Burt Munroe's bike which had been on load. If you haven't see it "Worlds Fastest Indian" is a pretty fantastic movie that is very relatable and family friendly.

This I can relate to...My one and only off at a trackday (racing is a different story:eek2:) was just 2 weeks after my dad died. I also happened to be on a new racebike I was getting a feel for but in hindsight I had no business being out there. Btw small world, that trackday org is now owned and run by 2 people you know, Paul Duval and Kerry. If you're ever in New England, my friends are members at Club Motorsports in NH, you should 100% come ride, it's amazing, and speaking of Ducati, Bruce Myers would be happy to show you the lines and talk Ducati :)

I know Bruce - he was actively building race bikes when I was racing at Loudon and of course I know Kerry - she's the bees knees. Small world.

I would be lying if I didn't say I struggle with the idea of building my own bike - if it's something that I have any business doing. I'm not an engineer or even a machinist or fabricator. But I think that if I'm careful and considered and take the time to test and learn I can do this.

Gregor
 

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I would be lying if I didn't say I struggle with the idea of building my own bike - if it's something that I have any business doing. I'm not an engineer or even a machinist or fabricator. But I think that if I'm careful and considered and take the time to test and learn I can do this.

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I had a good chuckle at this last part. You may not be an engineer, or a machinist or a fabricator, at your "day job", but you are one of the most creative, logical and skilled engineers machinists, and fabricators I know (thru the internet.)

And I work with some top notch machinists and fabricators. (and 80 "engineers" every day!)
 

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I know Bruce - he was actively building race bikes when I was racing at Loudon and of course I know Kerry - she's the bees knees. Small world.

I would be lying if I didn't say I struggle with the idea of building my own bike - if it's something that I have any business doing. I'm not an engineer or even a machinist or fabricator. But I think that if I'm careful and considered and take the time to test and learn I can do this.

Gregor

Too funny. I met Bruce when I got my MV Agusta since he was head of tech or something for them, such an awesome guy. And I made the connection because I also race at Loudon and Paul, Kerry and I were in the garages during a race weekend talking about how they're renovating their house. I did my part singing the praises of Festool to them (I'm hooked because of YOU sir :see:. And said they need to check out this garage forum thread and was like, wait I follow him in IG too. Showed them and they were like ohh yeah, we know Gregor! Too funny
 
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I have a real love hate relationship with this Duplicolor bed liner. I didn't prime the ladder but just scuffed it with scotchbrite.

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The texture is great and the durability on the bumpers has been great. The application is a big pain in the *** as the nozzle constantly clogs. A few times while I was moving the ladder the bed liner peeled off when it was against the cardboard so I'm not sure if this will be as durable. We'll see.

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I gave the van a bath and then mounted it up. Everything fit just as expected.

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If I were to do it again I'd break that middle 20 degree bend into two 10 degree bends so the ladder would hug the body a bit more.

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As much as I didn't really want to do a side ladder I'm happy with how it came out. It hugs the body pretty tightly but there's still room for your feet. It's well inside the mirror and only as wide as the flares so it's not really an issue.

I think that the roof rack will be interesting to tackle and it's going to be my goal to have that done by summer. My plan will be to make it in sections and then weld it together after it's all fitted up. My biggest concern is the wiring and power for the lights and I'm hoping to be able to run all the power within the tubes so nothing is external. I'd like to add some running lights to the rack as well. To start I'll make the base and then see.

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Do you mind sharing some ingredient suggestions from the master? What combinations are your family favorites?

Since I haven’t been to a restaurant in 3 months, these pizzas have been my savior every week. The pandemic has been a perfect time to pickup this new delicious hobby.

Three pizzas in one: Pepperoni, Greek and Margherita.

Glad you're enjoying the pizza! I am a bad person to ask about toppings as I always put on too many. I really like the simplicity of things like olive and pepperoni, or sausage and peppers but more often than not I'll put on too many things.

One combo that I always come back to is one that I discovered at a pizza place in Nova Scotia - about as far from pizza culture as you can get but it's really good: Artichoke, jalapeño and bacon. It's sort of sweet, spicy and savory and it's by far my favorite.

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One combo that I always come back to is one that I discovered at a pizza place in Nova Scotia - about as far from pizza culture as you can get but it's really good: Artichoke, jalapeño and bacon. It's sort of sweet, spicy and savory and it's by far my favorite.

Gregor
That sounds delicious! You really can’t go wrong with bacon. I’ll test out that combo this weekend.

Great job on the ladder, it fits the van perfectly. Looking forward to seeing the roof rack build.


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Perhaps one of the safest losses in this most recent fire was the loss of Burt Munroe's bike which had been on load. If you haven't see it "Worlds Fastest Indian" is a pretty fantastic movie that is very relatable and family friendly.
Gregor, are you sure about this information? I haven't been able to find any sources...
That would be indeed very sad, Burt Munro was a legend.
 

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Glad you're enjoying the pizza! I am a bad person to ask about toppings as I always put on too many. I really like the simplicity of things like olive and pepperoni, or sausage and peppers but more often than not I'll put on too many things.

One combo that I always come back to is one that I discovered at a pizza place in Nova Scotia - about as far from pizza culture as you can get but it's really good: Artichoke, jalapeño and bacon. It's sort of sweet, spicy and savory and it's by far my favorite.

Gregor

Always love the pizza shots in this thread, they never fail to make me hungry! I made a new recipe recently. Bacon mushroom blue cheese(Stilton) and the surprise ingredient Brussel Sprouts! I made three pizza that night and this was the best.
 

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I loved that movie about Burt - at first it seemed odd casting Anthony Hopkins but it was a very very good film. Five stars :)
 
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Gregor, are you sure about this information? I haven't been able to find any sources...
That would be indeed very sad, Burt Munro was a legend.

It took a while to find my source but no - it appears that's not true. Evidently there was a replica there as part of the Indian exhibit so the original was not destroyed. But! The "original" was actually destroyed by Burt himself after his last record attempt. He couldn't afford to ship the bike back home from Bonneville so he broke it up and only took the engine and gearbox home. Those are in a hardware store in NZ supposedly.

I have no idea what happened to the original body/chassis or if that survived here in the states. It might very well be rusting in some junk yard in UT.

So still sad news and still a great movie but less sad than originally thought.

Gregor
 
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