Which bench vise should I buy?

[Al Borland]

I guess if you don’t use your vise a lot you won’t wear out the inserts or in your case the jaws. They wouldn’t make and sell jaw inserts if there was not a marker for it so apparently I’m not the only person who has worn out a set of jaws. I personally like my vise nice and stout 27lbs for a 5in vise seems a little light to me

So now, we get to talk about "Vise Polishers" as well as "Tool Polishers"?

 

[Mike007]

I guess if you don’t use your vise a lot you won’t wear out the inserts or in your case the jaws. They wouldn’t make and sell jaw inserts if there was not a marker for it so apparently I’m not the only person who has worn out a set of jaws. I personally like my vise nice and stout 27lbs for a 5in vise seems a little light to me

To each there own as the saying goes. I will never wear out a set of vise jaws. I just don't use a vise enough for it to happen.

I'd like to know under what conditions have you worn a set of jaws out? And what brand vise? I'm guessing you must be using said vise in your daily job?

 

[shawhite]

I own a couple wiltons. One handed down from my dad which has seen more than its share of work and when I got it the jaws were shot. If they weren’t replaceable the vise would be useless. My other Wilton sees moderate use but it has soft jaws which get changed out pretty regularly.

 

[FTG-05]

Another option is the Capri Tools forged steel version...

https://capritools.com/shop/forged-steel-bench-vises/

Its made in Taiwan and in my experience, Taiwanese made tools are much better quality then Chinese tools. Better then Turkish made stuff IMO too.

This is the one I ended up buying. $330 from Amazon, free shipping.

Should be here in a week or so.

Thanks for the help!!!

 

[gtsgarage]

This is the one I ended up buying. $330 from Amazon, free shipping.

Should be here in a week or so.

Thanks for the help!!!

Please follow up and let us know how you like it. Looks good!

 

[Rabid Badger]

I recently purchased a Capri 6” and returned it for a Wilton 746. I’m not saying that the Capri wouldn’t be a good vise, but the Wilton looks beefier.

The dynamic jaw on my Wilton 746 separated from the slide holding onto some rototiller tines I was straightening out.

I sold the replacement vise they (begrudgingly) sent me and bought the 5" forged steel vise from Fireball Tool. It's identical to the Capri and Yost FSV aside from a different mounting hole pattern, but quite a bit cheaper.

It puts the Wilton to shame. Superior fit, finish, strength and clamping force in a much smaller footprint.

 

[zkling]

Do a return and get a Milhoff all steel, ~$550 shipped last time I checked.

https://www.milhoff.com/

 

[M635_Guy]

This is the one I ended up buying. $330 from Amazon, free shipping.

Should be here in a week or so.

Thanks for the help!!!

From this thread, I decided that if I ever get a second vise for my garage, it will be one of their 4" forged steel models.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts about your vise!

 

[pizza]

Do a return and get a Milhoff all steel, ~$550 shipped last time I checked.

https://www.milhoff.com/

does that link actually have info about the vise?

 

[pizza]

well, the time has finally come for me to buy my first vise. the struggle without one is finally getting too real.

i think i'm sold on the rotating (multi) jaw gimmick.

so that leaves a couple of options.

the yost 750-DI (from the OP):

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CBL62HQ/?tag=atomicindus08-20
https://yostvises.com/products/750-di-multi-jaw-rotating-combination-pipe-and-bench-vise-swivel-base

i was about to pull the trigger on this thing, but then i saw that capri makes a similar vise:

Capri Tools 10519

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015NI2CQS/?tag=atomicindus08-20
https://capritools.com/shop/rotating-bench-vises/

here's my little comparison table:

Yost 750-DI vs Capri 10519
Price: $190 vs $235
Weight: 63lb vs 53lb
Material: 60ksi DI vs 60ksi DI
Jaw Width: 5" vs 6"
Jaw Opening: 5" vs 5"
Throat Depth: 4" vs 4.3"
Clamping Force: 9000lb vs 6600lb
Warranty: 3yr vs 10yr

kinda leaning towards the capri at this point.

having trouble finding much info on the capri. afaik there isn't a single legit vid on yt about this particular vise. guess i'll keep reading the amazon reviews lol.

anyone here have the capri?

 

[Dumber than lumber]

About ten years ago some crack head comes around selling some stuff, so i see three yost vices, model 5 made in usa, how much? He wanted a hundred each, which they were worth it, i told him I’d give him a hundred for all three, he started to turn away, thought for a second then left the 3 vices on the ground and took the hundred bucks. What a great all purpose vice and i have a couple spares, probably give them to my sons at some point.

Great story!
Where are the crackheads when you really need them?
BTW - you ****!!!

 

[shawhite]

I would go with the yost as it’s a known quantity.

 

[FTG-05]

Got it a couple weeks ago, took a while before I could take it apart and mount it on my welding bench.

Pics:

Massive jaw opening (I bought the 7" version). Comparison to my Chinesium 4" rewelded vice that I broke recently. My rescue cat, Pigpen, obviously approves of my new vise!

 

[493mike]

Ridgid F-60S is forged steel.
Mike

 

[shawhite]

Got it a couple weeks ago, took a while before I could take it apart and mount it on my welding bench.

Pics:

Massive jaw opening (I bought the 7" version). Comparison to my Chinesium 4" rewelded vice that I broke recently. My rescue cat, Pigpen, obviously approves of my new vise!

Aren’t both vises chinesium??

 

[Renegade1LI]

Great story!
Where are the crackheads when you really need them?
BTW - you ****!!!

Going to put 1 up for sale, they're just taking up space.

 

[FTG-05]

Aren’t both vises chinesium??

According to the Capri Tools rep, Capri tools and vises are made in Taiwan. Capri vises are made in the same factory as Yost vises.

 

[brownbagg]

vices dont have to be high dollar name brand, just buy one yoou like, mine is thirty years old, I think its a plain home depot vice, its get beat on daily with sledge hammer. it still good. i think , well i know, i paid under $50 for it in 1990

 

[shawhite]

According to the Capri Tools rep, Capri tools and vises are made in Taiwan. Capri vises are made in the same factory as Yost vises.

Well the yost vise clearly state made in China. I know some people claim Taiwan and China are the same but I don’t see many companies use made in China when the product was made in Taiwan so I would say chances are the rep lied.

 

[65k10]

Well the yost vise clearly state made in China. I know some people claim Taiwan and China are the same but I don’t see many companies use made in China when the product was made in Taiwan so I would say chances are the rep lied.

Just to get things strait are we talking about the Capri rotating vise or the Capri forged vise? It wouldn't surprise me if the forged vise is made in Taiwan since besides the little tail on the anvil, it looks like the Yost FSV vise. That was made in Taiwan, but Yost no longer sells it. It was replaced with the ADI series which is made in China.

I've been curious if the Capri rotator is also Taiwan, since most others are made in China. You can get a suppsoedly Taiwan made rotator that looks similar under the Westward name, but I always wonder if that information is current or not.

 

[pizza]

I've been curious if the Capri rotator is also Taiwan, since most others are made in China. You can get a suppsoedly Taiwan made rotator that looks similar under the Westward name, but I always wonder if that information is current or not.

az reviews seem to say made in tw but who knows

 

[Steve_P]

The Yost FSV vises, like the Capri welded, are Taiwan. Should be the same except for the paint. If you care, and I do, verify if it has a geared base; the FSV-5 doesn't. The ADI 5" and 6" have geared bases and are made in China. But the quality is excellent, and you can't break one without a 3' breaker bar on the screw as the youtube tests show.

 

[FTG-05]

Well the yost vise clearly state made in China. I know some people claim Taiwan and China are the same but I don’t see many companies use made in China when the product was made in Taiwan so I would say chances are the rep lied.

You could be right: it looks like they lied on the box as well:

Why are my pics turned on their sides?

 

[pizza]

Why are my pics turned on their sides?

http://sethfowler.org/blog/2013/09/13/new-in-firefox-26-css-image-orientation/

 

[FTG-05]

I have no idea what all that meant. The article was from 2013, old as the hills in browser development. My FF is up to date at 84.0.2.

 

[pizza]

old as it may be, the answer to your question is in there. why assume i'd link an irrelevant article? sigh

the reason stems from:

regardless of the orientation of your camera when you took the image (and therefore the intended orientation of said image), many cameras store the image data as-shot in the native sensor orientation. that means that the actual image (pixel) data is often stored sideways or upside-down relative to what you wanted.

correct display orientation is achieved by also storing "metadata" (extra data, or data about data) along with your picture in a file header, a part of the file that does not strictly contain actual image data. other examples of metadata could include GPS coordinates of where it was shot, the type of camera you used, the date, your name, etc.

for example, the image data is stored sideways, and then there is a metadata instruction that says that the picture should be viewed with a rotation applied to fix it.

the problem is that browsers generally have not respected said rotation instructions, so they show up sideways. or worse still, if you upload them to a site like GJ, maybe they just delete those metadata instructions because they're not strictly part of the image itself.

this was explained in what i linked to, but maybe my explanation is more clear.

also, the problem is not specifically a firefox problem.

one solution is to use an image editor to correctly rotate the actual image data before uploading. that way a metadata rotation instruction isn't needed.

 

[magicrat]

I got lucky and found an old Wilton for $40 . But I would go with the red one. I have seen a YouTube video or the blue one being broken fairly easily.

 

[FTG-05]

old as it may be, the answer to your question is in there. why assume I'd link an irrelevant article? sigh

the reason stems from:

regardless of the orientation of your camera when you took the image (and therefore the intended orientation of said image), many cameras store the image data as-shot in the native sensor orientation. that means that the actual image (pixel) data is often stored sideways or upside-down relative to what you wanted.

correct display orientation is achieved by also storing "metadata" (extra data, or data about data) along with your picture in a file header, a part of the file that does not strictly contain actual image data. other examples of metadata could include GPS coordinates of where it was shot, the type of camera you used, the date, your name, etc.

for example, the image data is stored sideways, and then there is a metadata instruction that says that the picture should be viewed with a rotation applied to fix it.

the problem is that browsers generally have not respected said rotation instructions, so they show up sideways. or worse still, if you upload them to a site like GJ, maybe they just delete those metadata instructions because they're not strictly part of the image itself.

this was explained in what i linked to, but maybe my explanation is more clear.

also, the problem is not specifically a firefox problem.

one solution is to use an image editor to correctly rotate the actual image data before uploading. that way a metadata rotation instruction isn't needed.

Both pictures are correctly oriented on my camera, the original pictures downloaded onto my PC and the resized version on my PC. I uploaded the resized pic from my PC (the originals are too large at 7.9 and 4.4 MB respectively).

I never said it was irrelevant; I said I have no idea what it meant.

 

[pizza]

hard to say without being at your pc with you, but my guess is your camera and whatever software you're using on your pc are relying on metadata to correctly orient the images (both orig and resized versions) when you're viewing them.

when you uploaded to GJ, there are a couple of issues.
first, GJ strips the metadata including the rotation info that would be used to produce the correct orientation when viewing. second, even if the metadata were still there, the browser probably wouldn't even use it.

you would need to upload a version with the actual image data in the correct orientation.

idk what software you use, but you could try rotating the image once, saving it, rotating it back in the other direction, and saving it again. chances are your software will rotate the actual image data and not do a metadata update. often this trick works to force the correct orientation.

 

[HeadsUp]

I'll just leave this here...

https://hartford.craigslist.org/tls/d/durham-parker-monster-vise-170pounds/7249423696.html

 

[pizza]

well, i ordered the 6" capri rotating head (10519).