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[Bob Heine]

Some of you may want to skip over this post. Especially if you avoid prostate exams. I only do this so you know what to expect if your PSA blood test indicates a possible problem. It shouldn't mean a death sentence.

Been silently following along Bob, hope all works out well and glad the procedure wasn't any more uncomfortable.

Thank you Mike, I'm not worrying about the results until I get them and even then I'm pretty sure they can do things that were just a dream a few years ago.

Either this thread is going to have to stop talking about procto and rectal topics or Mark is going to have to take the picture of the Yankee screwdriver off of his posts...
Joe

Joe, I think it's easier for us to stop the talking than to have Mark remove the screwdriver.

Ok, thanks for the chuckle guys. It is greatly appreciated.

Kirk, before the doctor started the procedure he showed me the tools he would be using. He mentioned the ultrasound probe was slightly larger than his finger so I knew what to expect.

He then showed me the biopsy needle and my heart rate jumped a little from my usual 48bpm.

He assured me only the tip goes in but I've heard those words before in **** videos. Once he got started he told me I'd feel a small pinch when he injected an anesthetic. Less of a 'pinch' than the one my dentist gives before he starts drilling.

Bob

As usual - you crack me up....

Just make sure that after the Doc does his checking that he doesn't go looking for his wrist watch!!!!!

Even better - just check that while he does the procedure doesn't have hands on your shoulders!!!!

I'm sure you know the procedure.

Lyndon

Lyndon, you crack me up as well.

I may not be the sharpest pencil in the box but I'm pretty sure I'd notice a watch band -- they didn't numb everything.

I was wise to those tricks but he was behind me and kept asking me move a little closer -- I was hanging over the edge back there.

Bob, If it weren't for threads like yours and others we run across, I doubt that some guys would know. So, we joke about it and that's cool. And we also get educated. That is even cooler. We get to find out what it may be like. And what to expect. I know I am of that age and visited with my Doc about it and we have done the routine inspections. All's clear so far. I'm not comfortable asking the questions sometimes or talking about how many times I have to get up at nite to pee so it's good to get some reassurance and knowledge in a friendly group with some matter of discretion. Okay, well maybe no discretion!, but so what! It's all good!

Y'sguy, you're right and it's the reason I'm posting about the topic. I kinda knew what to expect but there were a few surprises. I had no idea how big the biopsy needle was (1.2 millimeters in diameter -- that's 0.0472441"). I also had no idea how it worked. It's attached to an electric handle that shoots out the needle each time the doctor presses the button/switch. He takes six samples from each of the two nodes of the prostate (didn't know it has two nodes). That let me know the sound of the needle would happen at least 12 times. It sounds just like a spring-loaded center-punch so that is either comforting or worrying to know about in advance. I forgot to count but I'm pretty sure he took a couple of extra samples.

Glad to hear you had a semi pleasant experience at the doctor's office!
Now to a positive test result!

Cody, thanks for the encouragement and I'm with you on the positive test result. Unless positive means the big C.

This is going in the same direction as Pearls Before Swine urinal cake joke.

Michael, we stopped the paper newspaper delivery and the ones I access on line don't carry Pearls Before Swine but I do remember the comic. Reminded me of Pogo.

Bob, I bet Liane never gave your **** this much attention. Kind of scary thought that guys are more interested than she is/was.

Kirk, funny you mention, she said I still don't have an old man's **** last night.

Come to think of it, I think I found that particular Yankee at an estate sale for a retired Proctologist

Mark, my Miller Falls twist drill has a metal handle with bits stored inside and the no-name screwdriver has a plastic handle with bits inside. Not as comfortable-looking as yours.

I should have mentioned that granddad was 83 when he died, 10 years older than I am now.
Pete

Pete, it's hard to believe how old they seemed. I was 22 when Grandpa died. My oldest grandson is turning 30 this year and like me back then he has two children of his own.

Sending our best to you, Bob!

Dan, thank you, I appreciate that. You are one of my GJ heroes, flipping 6-man rocks and reviving 50-year-old lacquer paintjobs.

"How-about dem Bears? Maybe they finally have a quarterback."

The focus on proctologists is simply offal!

I'm headed to the garage to finish a cedar 2 ft square planter for our son, who wants it for a fruit tree he wants to place in it, which he's raised from a seedling, tied-to a family member who's since departed, permanently. Talk about lumber prices! I tried to find redwood at the Big Box Store, nothing. I went to my fall-back for things, Shell Lumber in Miami, on SW 27 Ave. https://www.shelllumber.com/ and got all I needed in full-cut cedar. It's substantially-larger in all dimensions as 'rough-cut' than 'dressed' lumber. Here's the wood list:

DIY Planter Box Wood List:
Quantity Board Length

5 2×6 8′
1 2×4 8′
1 2×2 8′
1 1×4 10'

The bill, w/tax, was just-over $200! Yikes! He sent me the plans, and I promised him he'd get it, so it's being done. The box is built, now to fit the bottom, the legs, and the top trim. The directions made no-mention of any waterproof liner, I'm thinking of using shower membrane, and either SS staples, or a narrow SS plate around the upper-side edge of the wrapped shower membrane.

The construction is Titebond glued and dowelled w/three-eighths fluted dowels. I got to use my assortment of Pony pipe clamps. I've learned that you need to pay attention when clamping, because using clamps on only one side can cause the wood to bow, if you're not-careful. The easiest way I've found to combat that, is to clamp on both-sides, and to try to get the boards to lie-flat to the pipe.

The boards, once the glue has set, then need to be made-uniform in width, a quick job on my Powermatic 64 table saw. I used 4" SS flathead wood screws, w/square-drive heads, to fasten the sides of the box together. Now to size the floor, and to secure it. Then the legs and the top edge trim.

Philip, from my childhood I haven't followed sports. My brother knew every statistic for every ball player in every American sports team, baseball, basketball and football. He even designed and developed a baseball boardgame that had a card for each player. Based on their statistics, the roll of the dice determined single, double, triple or homerun as well as likelihood of a strikeout or walk. But he couldn't tell the difference between a '53 and '54 Chevy or the difference between the V8 in a '53 Ford to a '54 ford. My brother and I got along better because of our different interests. My son follows sports but my oldest grandson is a car nut.

That's a beefy looking planter. I take it it isn't pressure treated but being cedar it should last for a few years before the Tmites take a liking to it.

All of the shower membranes I have seen are not designed to be wearing surfaces. For a couple planters I made last year I used spray truck bed liner. Seemed to work well so far. And lots cheaper than shower membrane.

Like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018Y3JRBC/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Zippercat, I hadn't thought of that but I am sure you're right. The shower liners are never exposed to traffic after the final finish is installed.

Beyond imploring you to stay positive, as you are, I will hoist one in your honor.

Mark, that's a new one on me. Thanks for the sentiment and maybe someday I'll be able to sniff a glass.

I'll join you. Here's hoping Bob's ******* isn't rotting out.

Uncle Willie, I doubt I'll ever know when it does start rotting out. Someone I pay will have to let me know.

Hi Bob! I hope the results turns out good or they can fix it in the hospital! I'm keeping my both thumbs in the as... I mean AIR for you

Tapio, I'm with you and I'm staying real positive. One of the 20 or so Cyberknives in the US is in a facility three blocks from my house.

Accuray Cyberknife

If the doctor doesn't know how to run it there is a Proton radiation center about 7.5 miles north of us. According to the ads for these multi-million dollar machines they do a lot less damage to surrounding tissue and the Proton machine targets only the cancer cells. I think I'm going to be fine with all these magical tools in my neighborhood.

Probeam Proton 360

 

[pi_guy]

Michael, we stopped the paper newspaper delivery and the ones I access on line don't carry Pearls Before Swine but I do remember the comic. Reminded me of Pogo.

I am hard pressed to give up my newspapers.

If you ever want to see extreme old age hanging butts. Go to the summer nationals at Mt Hood in July until you have seen 60 to 90 year old's in speed suits you have not seen much

 

[Bob Heine]

I am hard pressed to give up my newspapers.

If you ever want to see extreme old age hanging butts. Go to the summer nationals at Mt Hood in July until you have seen 60 to 90 year old's in speed suits you have not seen much

Michael, I understand the newspaper thing. When I threw out the ads and sport section there wasn't much left and dragging 40 pounds of paper to the curb every week got old.

We used to go to the beach pretty regularly and saw more than our fair share of saggy butts of both sexes. Liane's third melanoma surgery ended our days in the sun. Her British complexion is only slightly less sun sensitive than my Scandinavian one. Many's the time people ran up to me on the beach with a towel, begging me to cover up.

 

[Bob Heine]

The sprinkler repair took a little longer than expected.

Went out Friday afternoon and the air temperature wasn't too bad. Unfortunately it was dead calm and crystal clear skies. Started off digging through my scrap metal collection for a piece of steel to protect the upper pipes from the hacksaw blade cutting the bottom pipe. The garage door opener motor mount turned out to be perfect.

This is another case of hoarding being rewarded. I actually remembered where it was but if anyone asked why I was saving this hunk of thick angled sheet metal I would be at a loss.

After digging and hack-sawing PVC for an hour I stood up and felt woozy. Decided it was time to quit and took the Tee fitting into the shop and did a little investigating. The pipes were not cracked or broken and neither was the Tee fitting. But when I cut the Tee apart the 1.25" pipe pieces fell out. There was no glue on either side but the 0.5" pipe was glued securely. I suspect a root followed a seep of water into the joint and expanded over time, opening up the very thin sprinkler grade PVC pipe.

When I returned to the hole today I realized I needed to open up the hole a bit on the sides and a lot on the back. The repair Tee is much wider than a standard PVC fitting but I only have to cut the pipe back to fit the length of the fitting. The sliding parts join the two pipe ends.

I was getting too dirty and sweaty to take many photos but the two sides went together just fine. The connection to the 0.5" pipe was a little more complicated. Couldn't find a 1.25" to 0.5" reducer bushing so I had to buy 1.25" to 0.75" PVC bushing and a 0.75" to 0.5" bushing and glue them together. That made the measurements more interesting and because this was the final fit-up I couldn't make it too long or too short. I lucked out and the pieces were just the right length. The smaller pipe was not lined up right but with a foot on one end and a little tugging on the other and I got them aligned and glued. I took this photo before the final glue-up and I managed to get enough primer and glue on me so the camera stayed on the bench in the garage.

 

[rharman]

Looks good. I like the repair tee. Never saw those before.

That flexible sprinkler pipe I told you about would have made the 1/2" side a piece of cake and no worries on length.

 

[xtremek]

Another nice repair, Bob. When do you get the results back?

 

[driftpin]

Bob, have you ever used a piece of monofilament fishing line to cut through a piece of PVC? It goes very-quickly!

A good job on the repair. I know what you mean about the alignment and lengths. We have a copper manifold coming-through the concrete pool deck for three 3/4" pipes, which I wanted to remove the many-turn gate valves and replace 'em with quarter-turn ball valves, but the thought of trying to get all the cuts correct and lined-up properly, and sweated, made me pass on that repair. I wasn't home when the plumber did it, I assume he used flux, and assembled everything using the flux to assist in getting it all in-place, and then sweated each connection individually. I have an acetylene plumber's 'trench-tank' torch for repairs, and while I'm not-averse to doing the repairs on a lot of plumbing projects myself, I was happy to-pay to have this done by a professional. I'm disappointed in the short-duration of the chrome on the handles. Maybe it wasn't chrome and was just a thin flash of zinc or nickel.

If working with 240V single-phase connections gives-you pause, the electrical installation for one of those imaging machines would probably give you palpitations! I did inspections on such an installation for a new machine being installed in Bethesda Hospital just north-of you, and the coils and Cu feeds for the machine were massive! It looked like the faraday cages and Tesla coils where the inventor is sitting in the middle of the room, while huge bolts of energy surround him.

One of my sailing partners was the head of oncology radiation at Memorial Regional Hospital in Hollywood, south of you. They have a couple huge machines like that, or for other purposes, in a wing of the hospital. He's retired now, but he still participates in the physician's tumor board, reviewing patients' cases, and determining paths of treatment.
https://www.mhs.net/services/cancer/treatments/radiation

 

[drivesitfar]

I have a real problem throwing out metal or wood scraps too for this very reason. i'm sure I could toss the rotten pieces of wood though if there are any.

nice fix on the sprinkler and i'm sure over the years all your plumbing repairs has saved you at least enough to afford one or two of those nice cars you own.

hope you are enjoying your weekend.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Some of you may want to skip over this post. Especially if you avoid prostate exams. I only do this so you know what to expect if your PSA blood test indicates a possible problem. It shouldn't mean a death sentence.

Bob, So sorry I missed your posts about dealing with this issue. Just to add a positive - I dealt with this about 3-4 years ago. A suddenly very elevated PSA number. Was re-tested and it was still elevated. Long story short it turns out I had a recurrent case of prostatitis. Doctor prescribed me some antibiotic that was then on the Homeland Security watch list because it's also used against anthrax.

Anyway, I had to take it quite a while to get my PSA numbers down and he has been watching my numbers closely since - no recurrence. Yours may well turn out NOT to be cancer. Wishing you the best from a couple thousand miles away! -Dan

 

[PugetDude]

Bob,
Just got caught up on this thread, hope all your plumbing problems will soon be behind you.
Scott

 

[stillp]

I suspect a root followed a seep of water into the joint and expanded over time, opening up the very thin sprinkler grade PVC pipe.

I wonder if that root would have the same effect on a prostate?
Pete

 

[Bob Heine]

Looks good. I like the repair tee. Never saw those before.

That flexible sprinkler pipe I told you about would have made the 1/2" side a piece of cake and no worries on length.

Roger, thank you. I have a good collection of fittings but failed to order any flexible PVC.

Another nice repair, Bob. When do you get the results back?

Kirk, I can now sit back and relax until the next sprinkler pipe failure. The sprinklers have arrived so I'll be out digging again in a day or so.

I expect to hear biopsy results sometime next week.

Bob, have you ever used a piece of monofilament fishing line to cut through a piece of PVC? It goes very-quickly!

A good job on the repair. I know what you mean about the alignment and lengths. We have a copper manifold coming-through the concrete pool deck for three 3/4" pipes, which I wanted to remove the many-turn gate valves and replace 'em with quarter-turn ball valves, but the thought of trying to get all the cuts correct and lined-up properly, and sweated, made me pass on that repair. I wasn't home when the plumber did it, I assume he used flux, and assembled everything using the flux to assist in getting it all in-place, and then sweated each connection individually. I have an acetylene plumber's 'trench-tank' torch for repairs, and while I'm not-averse to doing the repairs on a lot of plumbing projects myself, I was happy to-pay to have this done by a professional. I'm disappointed in the short-duration of the chrome on the handles. Maybe it wasn't chrome and was just a thin flash of zinc or nickel.

If working with 240V single-phase connections gives-you pause, the electrical installation for one of those imaging machines would probably give you palpitations! I did inspections on such an installation for a new machine being installed in Bethesda Hospital just north-of you, and the coils and Cu feeds for the machine were massive! It looked like the faraday cages and Tesla coils where the inventor is sitting in the middle of the room, while huge bolts of energy surround him.

One of my sailing partners was the head of oncology radiation at Memorial Regional Hospital in Hollywood, south of you. They have a couple huge machines like that, or for other purposes, in a wing of the hospital. He's retired now, but he still participates in the physician's tumor board, reviewing patients' cases, and determining paths of treatment.
https://www.mhs.net/services/cancer/treatments/radiation

Philip, I've never tried monofilament for cutting PVC but thanks to you I have some 65lb test braided nylon line coming. I have an idea how to do it one-handed so I'll let you know if it works for me.

I'm much more comfortable doing copper fittings because you can do the dry-fitting until it's perfect, clean the pipe and fittings, add flux and then do the torch thing. I have a Mapp gas torch but I have my eye on a portable Oxyacetylene setup so I can give brazing a try.

You can buy replacement stainless handles for those valves but they are pricey. You might want to wait until a handle is about to fail.

I always trip 240v circuit breakers before doing work on them and shut power off at the meter to add one. I often fix 120v light circuits by just flipping the switch to off (and shorting the wires to test for power). My neighbor worked on the high voltage stuff for FPL and it made my groin twitch just thinking about it.

I have a real problem throwing out metal or wood scraps too for this very reason. i'm sure I could toss the rotten pieces of wood though if there are any.

nice fix on the sprinkler and i'm sure over the years all your plumbing repairs has saved you at least enough to afford one or two of those nice cars you own.

hope you are enjoying your weekend.

Drives, today's projects involved scraps once again. I have a whole lot less than you but I'm working to pare mine down even more.

As my doctor often notes, plumbers get paid more than doctors so I think you're right about the cars (and boats and tools and travel and...).

Bob, So sorry I missed your posts about dealing with this issue. Just to add a positive - I dealt with this about 3-4 years ago. A suddenly very elevated PSA number. Was re-tested and it was still elevated. Long story short it turns out I had a recurrent case of prostatitis. Doctor prescribed me some antibiotic that was then on the Homeland Security watch list because it's also used against anthrax.

Anyway, I had to take it quite a while to get my PSA numbers down and he has been watching my numbers closely since - no recurrence. Yours may well turn out NOT to be cancer. Wishing you the best from a couple thousand miles away! -Dan

Dan, thank you for the positive information. I've had quite a few biopsies (skin and colon) and so far all have been clear (positive and negative confuse me). My PSA is still around 4 but that's higher than it has ever been. I prefer to know rather than hope it's OK.

On a positive note, I suffer from chronic but mild sinus infections and the two antibiotic shots and five day antibiotic pill regimen have completely cleared them up. Not used to having a runny nose with clear fluid coming out.

Bob,
Just got caught up on this thread, hope all your plumbing problems will soon be behind you.
Scott

Scott, I appreciate the well wishes. Now that I've been vaccinated I can go ahead with the two-year delayed colonoscopy. I suspect they are getting desperate because they called me three times in the past year.

I wonder if that root would have the same effect on a prostate?
Pete

Pete, I don't know how well a root would work but I don't think I have the patience to find out. "Honey, could you bring me a blanket, I think I hear a root heading my way."

 

[Bob Heine]

I've postponed it long enough. I have two (three) small welding projects that I've been putting off. The battery charger on the '87 Corvette is indicating a problem, with the red and green lights on at the same time. Throwing caution to the wind I disconnected the charger and drove the Corvette out in the driveway. That frees up the bay with the concrete floor (don't want to set the carpeted bays on fire). Also have to cover the Cadillac in case there is a stray spark.

First up is the bolt flange on the vice mount for the buffer. I made it a long time ago and did a really poor job of fit-up, thinking I could bridge the gap. That only works if you don't have to grind a fair amount of the weld so a washer and nut sit flat.

I still had a foot or so of the same 1" angle iron so I duplicated it with a much tighter fit and some beveled edges.

Used a HF step drill bit to hog out the hole and gave the vise mount a coat of primer and some gloss black. It's all out of sight but I am trying to slow the rust.

Second project involves that garbage can cart I fixed a few years ago. It needed to be done again but this time there is even less to work with. Welding rust is not a great idea but I figured it was worth a try. First up was to hold the two pieces in place. My one and only mag clamp came to the rescue.

For the repair pieces I went to my most elegant and expensive stock -- a T bar track from an overhead garage opener that died. It was like it was made for the job.

I was on a roll and finished tacking up one side when the MIG wire stopped feeding. It didn't occur to me that I was out of wire for five or six hours. OK, maybe it was only minutes but I looked pretty stupid staring at the tip and pulling the trigger. What a waste of good gas.

Scrounged up a roll of ER70S-6 wire that had already been opened and installed it on the peg. Successfully fed the wire into the tube and squeezed the trigger (with the gas turned off). The wire jammed. Actually it didn't really jam but I had to hand feed it into the liner. The feed roller wouldn't move the wire. Second Ah $hit was the wire size. I was using 0.030 wire and this was 0.025 wire. Flipped the roller to the right notch and voila, it fed the wire. A minute or so into the second side the wire seized at the nozzle. Right, the nozzle needs to be changed as well. Digging around for another five or six hours and I found an unopened bag of 0.025 tips. I finished the welding for the day and put all the tools away. Vacuumed up the pool of sweat on the floor and quit for the day. I stopped taking pictures when I ran out of wire, knowing I would make some horrible mistake and break the camera.

 

[PugetDude]

Bob, we must have the same welding gremlins helping us.
Last night the battery died on my Lincoln helmet, about a half- hour before I would have finished my project. Went to the closest store- Walgreens-this AM, paid $7.00 for a 2450 coin battery and I was back in business- for about two minutes until I ran out of shielding gas...another trip, this time into Mesa to the welding supply store.

Got very little welding done today.

 

[pi_guy]

Bob, we must have the same welding gremlins helping us.
Last night the battery died on my Lincoln helmet, about a half- hour before I would have finished my project. Went to the closest store- Walgreens-this AM, paid $7.00 for a 2450 coin battery and I was back in business- for about two minutes until I ran out of shielding gas...another trip, this time into Mesa to the welding supply store.

Got very little welding done today.

Seems every time I go to weld I need new batteries.

 

[xtremek]

I usually just remove the nozzle, then slide it over once the wire is out far enough.

 

[Bob Heine]

Bob, we must have the same welding gremlins helping us.
Last night the battery died on my Lincoln helmet, about a half- hour before I would have finished my project. Went to the closest store- Walgreens-this AM, paid $7.00 for a 2450 coin battery and I was back in business- for about two minutes until I ran out of shielding gas...another trip, this time into Mesa to the welding supply store.

Got very little welding done today.

Scott, I believe you are correct. Same gremlin, similar costumes.

Your comment sent me out to the garage to check the valve on the welding gas tank. Not the first, second or third time but the fourth.

Seems every time I go to weld I need new batteries.

Michael, now I need to go out to the garage and check to be sure I have spare batteries.

I usually just remove the nozzle, then slide it over once the wire is out far enough.

Kirk, that's what I did as soon as I had a foot of wire in the sheath. The entrance to the tip is a concave cone so it should feed right in but I have no faith it will do it for me. I threw out my first HF welder when the flux core wire froze in the line. They didn't have replacement parts and the manual was no help taking anything apart.

 

[Bob Heine]

Somehow all three of our cars needed gas recently. Filled up the Cadillac in March, the PT Cruiser at the end of April, and the Corvette last Thursday (just in time for the pipeline hack). Because of the pandemic we haven't been driving very often or very far. The Corvette has been driven the least with the last fillup happening two years ago today (props to Stabil gas treatment).

Urologist called yesterday to let me know the most recent PSA test and biopsy results. PSA increased to 6.4 and two of the 12 biopsy samples had cancer cells (Gleason score 9-10, New Grading System Group 1 Grade 5). In two weeks I go for lower abdomen MRI and full-body bone scan to determine if the cancer has metastasized. After that it's going to be a visit with an oncologist. MRI and bone scan will determine which oncologist I see. One of them is the son of the oncologist I saw 8 years ago. He's about the same age as my oldest grandson so hopefully he's good at video games and proton beams

Looks like I'll be paying closer attention to those Catheter Cowboy commercials -- it Depends.

 

[Finallygotit]

Bob, I am absolutely hoping for the best possible outcome for you!!


You've had enough **** in your life for three people.

 

[Bob Heine]

Thanks Dan. I'm loving your new shop and look forward to seeing it rise from the desert.

 

[xtremek]

Prayers, Sir.

 

[y'sguy]

Prayers for you Bob. You are way ahead of of this one.

 

[harley jim]

I wish you the best Bob, I'll say a prayer for you my friend.

Sent from my SM-A102U using The Garage Journal mobile app

 

[mybigwarwagon]

Hang in there Bob. We are all pulling for you.

 

[cbacres]

Wishing the best for you Bob, you’ll be in our thoughts.

 

[kaymccampbell]

Crossin finners.

 

[don long]

Hey Bob
I'm a little late to the action but wanted to let you know that i'm following along
And sending good wishes and a prayer for you.

 

[PugetDude]

Bob,
Really hoping this story has a happy ending. You have been through some tough times in your life and you have always come out on top; no reason this one shouldn't be any different.
Scott

 

[stillp]

Fingers crossed for you Bob.
Pete

 

[bugnut]

Bob, my thoughts and prayers to/for you sir.

 

[gearhead1960]

Hey Bob,

Good thing about prostate cancer is it's very slow growing. Something else will likely kill you before that does..... Good luck. I'm sure the prognosis will eventually turn in your favor!

 

[OutlawDrifter]

Sending prayers and positive vibes your way from the midwest!

 

[bcoke]

Bob ...take a big deep breath.......I know that the diagonsis is a punch in the gut [or maybe lower] pun intended....you are at only the first step ......the main treatment will be determed by the next tests.....as you most likely know that if it matastised it presents a different course of treatment....... i find it reasuring that only 2 of 13 were wonky.......in my case 7 of 13 were positive with a gleason of 7-8......that was 2008.....while it is only 13+ years a lot of new meds/technical means/and treatments.......as I just looked up the new scoring system
my eyes glazed overland my brain really could not absorb the info but I know you will be on top of it......the next two tests will hopefully show it is localized only in the prostate than the treatment will be easier to kill it.......try not to dwell on it too much [easier said than done] my own PC reoccured after 10 + years and only mestastized to the seminal vessel and the nearest lymph node it is know held in check with androgen therapy and medication [a pill 3x a day and an estrogen shot every 6 months] so as you see I am well acquainted with my feminine side.......strange side effects are a love of chocolate and shoe shopping [ just messing with you] my thoughts will be with you and Liane , you guys will get through this... bobbycoke ........ps my mom had always said "that little thing is gonna cause you trouble"

 

[jon72vega]

I'm praying for you, Bob.

 

[GeddyT]

Bob, I'm sorry I've missed everything that's going on in your life while I've taken some time off from the board. I wish you the best, but I think that goes without saying.

Say hi to the catheter cowboy for me, and keep up that sense of humor: it's game-changer when times are tough.

 

[Bob Heine]

Prayers, Sir.

Thank you, Kirk.

Prayers for you Bob. You are way ahead of of this one.

Y'sguy, I appreciate the prayers and I'm treating this as another reminder that every day of life is a gift.

I wish you the best Bob, I'll say a prayer for you my friend.

Sent from my SM-A102U using The Garage Journal mobile app

Jim, I do appreciate the help. I know my invisible friend is paying attention. When I took the Corvette out for a drive last Thursday and put $69 worth of 93-octane in its tank I didn't understand. The next day we learned about the pipeline hack.

Hang in there Bob. We are all pulling for you.

Thank you Uncle Willie, I'm not worried yet.

Wishing the best for you Bob, you’ll be in our thoughts.

Craig, I appreciate the kind words.

Crossin finners.

Me too Kay. Thanks for stopping by.

Hey Bob
I'm a little late to the action but wanted to let you know that i'm following along
And sending good wishes and a prayer for you.

Don, I've always felt I'm living on borrowed time and appreciate every day because of that feeling.

Bob,
Really hoping this story has a happy ending. You have been through some tough times in your life and you have always come out on top; no reason this one shouldn't be any different.
Scott

Scott, I live in a place that has lots of really good doctors so I'm expecting a decent shot at a positive outcome (or a negative outcome if that's better). Some of it is up to me but I already sleep a solid 8 hours every night and heal pretty fast.

Fingers crossed for you Bob.
Pete

Pete, please remember to uncross them when you turn on the power equipment.

Bob, my thoughts and prayers to/for you sir.

Bugnut, I appreciate the thoughts and prayers.

Hey Bob,

Good thing about prostate cancer is it's very slow growing. Something else will likely kill you before that does..... Good luck. I'm sure the prognosis will eventually turn in your favor!

Mark, I've heard that from quite a few people and even sources on the Intertubes. As I told Liane, knowing is better than hoping so getting the diagnosis before I have any symptoms is a head-start.

Sending prayers and positive vibes your way from the midwest!

Marc, thank you and thank you for sharing that April snow. Reminds me why I kept heading south until a gas station attendant didn't know what my snow shovel was for.

Bob ...take a big deep breath.......I know that the diagonsis is a punch in the gut [or maybe lower] pun intended....you are at only the first step ......the main treatment will be determed by the next tests.....as you most likely know that if it matastised it presents a different course of treatment....... i find it reasuring that only 2 of 13 were wonky.......in my case 7 of 13 were positive with a gleason of 7-8......that was 2008.....while it is only 13+ years a lot of new meds/technical means/and treatments.......as I just looked up the new scoring system
my eyes glazed overland my brain really could not absorb the info but I know you will be on top of it......the next two tests will hopefully show it is localized only in the prostate than the treatment will be easier to kill it.......try not to dwell on it too much [easier said than done] my own PC reoccured after 10 + years and only mestastized to the seminal vessel and the nearest lymph node it is know held in check with androgen therapy and medication [a pill 3x a day and an estrogen shot every 6 months] so as you see I am well acquainted with my feminine side.......strange side effects are a love of chocolate and shoe shopping [ just messing with you] my thoughts will be with you and Liane , you guys will get through this... bobbycoke ........ps my mom had always said "that little thing is gonna cause you trouble"

Bobby, thanks so much for the heads up. My urologist discussed a few options with me so I'm not sure which will be best. My biggest worry is the linen thing. Every closet in the house is already overflowing with sheets, pillowcases, blankets, comforters and enough towels for a small hotel. Do we have to go for manicures now?

I'm praying for you, Bob.

Thank you Jon!
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Thank you all for the kind words and prayers. When this disease took out my grandfather 54 years ago, it wasn't diagnosed until after it had metastasized and even if it had been found early there were few effective treatments. My grandfather also had no health insurance until 1965 (start of Medicare), which was two years years before he died. He waited to go to the doctor until he felt like he was dying and it turned out he was.

 

[Bob Heine]

Bob, I'm sorry I've missed everything that's going on in your life while I've taken some time off from the board. I wish you the best, but I think that goes without saying.

Say hi to the catheter cowboy for me, and keep up that sense of humor: it's game-changer when times are tough.

Tom, your avatar is making me feel much better. My caption would be: "Wow, didn't see that coming!"

I was really glad to see you out on the bikes with your little people. Puts everything that's important in perspective.

 

[drivesitfar]

Bob: In my mind you are a walking MIRACLE. that said I’m still sending prayers and hoping you and your staff of medical guys can get this figured out. I’m not finished watching you do all that you either and I’m sure ther is lot more to come. best of luck too.

Prayers sent!!

 

[shortykorte]

Well Pooh hopefully the MRI shows you swallowed a ball bearing some time in your youth.




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[mybigwarwagon]

Well Pooh hopefully the MRI shows you swallowed a ball bearing some time in your youth.




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Maybe a train part that got missed?