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Between 485 & 705 SQ/FT Jar944's 3car cabinet shop.

Workspaces between 485 and 705 squarefeet.

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In my experience (not speaking for Jar) but having the most correct (efficient/appropriate) tool for the job made the largest different in my productivity. I used to struggle with a Rigid 4520 table saw, Craftsman sliding compound miter saw, and other new to woodworking tools. My wife used to get so upset with how much time I would spend trying to make anything (making stuff square is really difficult). I go so frustrated being frustrated doing something I used to enjoy I threw all that junk out and went all Festool, SawStop, Incra, Woodpeckers, etcetera. I will not claim I’m a great (or even good) woodworker but I spend a considerable amount if time making things now and my wife really likes how productive it has become. Projects that I used to dread I can now knock out with a track saw, Domino and Kapex without having to worry if it’s going to end up straight and square. Still want to get away from the Kreg and move into the Castle Machine and really need a bigger planer/jointer but man did things improve when I invested in better tools.
And Jar are you going to airless or HVLP the frames and cabinets? Are you going with ore-cat lacquer or envirolak? I keep seeing Eric Reason shooting stuff on IG and I really want to get onto spraying stuff.
 
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And Jar are you going to airless or HVLP the frames and cabinets? Are you going with ore-cat lacquer or envirolak? I keep seeing Eric Reason shooting stuff on IG and I really want to get onto spraying stuff.
I'm outsourcing the paint on these. I don't have a booth, and this is too much to try and spray outside like I usually do. I left the specific brand / product up to the painter, but specified solvent conversion varnish.
 
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My Dad came down to visit, so as usual I put him to work on the house.

The goal was a 6" vent hood duct and a stub out fitting for the pot filler.. Surprisingly everything went well other than finding a joist where I didn't expect it, and a header where I expected a open joist bay.

Amazingly the plumbing was done in a hour or so, including the drywall patch. Luckily there was blocking exactly where I needed it.

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Nice job!

Looks like the lower wall cap in first deck needs replacement.

At your BBQ station, is that an electric smoker raised on stone pediment?

We are doing a kitchen renovation also and still on the fence with the pot filler.
 
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Nice job!

Looks like the lower wall cap in first deck needs replacement.

At your BBQ station, is that an electric smoker raised on stone pediment?

We are doing a kitchen renovation also and still on the fence with the pot filler.

Thanks Yeah that plastic lower cap just needs removed. I have no idea what it was for, but it has a plug about 8" back from the face. I just need to find some matching faded siding.

Yes it's a pellet smoker on the raised pediment. I need to redo the metal base, as it's still the original with castors.

The pot filler is something my wife and I have both wanted. I don't see a down side to them.
 
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Thanks Yeah that plastic lower cap just needs removed. I have no idea what it was for, but it has a plug about 8" back from the face. I just need to find some matching faded siding.

Yes it's a pellet smoker on the raised pediment. I need to redo the metal base, as it's still the original with castors.

The pot filler is something my wife and I have both wanted. I don't see a down side to them.

The only down side I can see is stagnant water, for me especially in the summer as I rarely would use water in the summer,. I have though about adding one when I remodel, figure I will T off the line to my faucet so the amount of stagnant water will be minimal.


How are you finishing the drawer boxes, those poplar?
 
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The only down side I can see is stagnant water, for me especially in the summer as I rarely would use water in the summer,. I have though about adding one when I remodel, figure I will T off the line to my faucet so the amount of stagnant water will be minimal.


How are you finishing the drawer boxes, those poplar?

This water line connects in just before the washing machine so between that and the fact that my wife cooks almost every day I'm not to worried about stagnant water.

Yes they are poplar. From my stash.
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The boxes will be sprayed with lenmar ultralaq clear precat lacquer.
 
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Some more of the drawers, and a oops..

I Didn't have the part completely against the stop (this PC dovetail jig leaves *a lot* to be desired.) I ended up cuting another as a filler, cut the tails off then glued them back in. The offset wasn't much but more than I could accept. 20210831_193947.jpg20210831_194102.jpg

I also ended up with a huge pile of offcuts, veneers, and sawdust from the 200bdft in drawers (this was about 1/8 of the chips just from the jointer
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Bandsaw veneers (faster than planing to 5/8)
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The large drawers are huge, I may regret not going with HD slides.
 

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I do this for a living and I'm still always in awe of your skill and attention to detail! Awesome work as always. I'm also very jealous of your jointer capacity! Since we are local to each other who is doing your painting and if you don't mind what's the ballpark cost? Feel free to pm that info if you don't want to share it publicly.
 
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I do this for a living and I'm still always in awe of your skill and attention to detail! Awesome work as always. I'm also very jealous of your jointer capacity! Since we are local to each other who is doing your painting and if you don't mind what's the ballpark cost? Feel free to pm that info if you don't want to share it publicly.
Thanks. I actually wasn't sure if I could fit a 16" jointer and passed on it initally. Really glad I changed my mind..

Old Town is doing the painting.
 

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I like how well BM advance levels out, but the minimal hide combined with the recoat time is ridiculous.
Have you considered Sherwin Williams Emerald Urethane Trim Enamel? I have had excellent experience with the product. It applies easily, lays out flat, and has a relatively quick recoat window. Overall cure time is not as fast as some but it cures hard and has been incredibly durable.
 
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Have you considered Sherwin Williams Emerald Urethane Trim Enamel? I have had excellent experience with the product. It applies easily, lays out flat, and has a relatively quick recoat window. Overall cure time is not as fast as some but it cures hard and has been incredibly durable.

I hadn't been aware of emerald trim. I may pick up a gallon and try it out.
 
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Took this week off to install cabinets (unfortunately the shop hasn't painted them yet) so we tried to do whatever we could to prep for the actual install.

This took way longer than it should have since the existing flooring was 1/64 under size, and the spare flooring I had was 1/64 over size..

Moving the island away and then back into placewas interesting.

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What do you use on the box and drawer interiors? Is it odorless after it dries?

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Lenmar precat lacquer 1d.332

Yes it's odorless and fully cured in 24 hours (or less depending on temp and humidity) I was spraying at through a 4 stage fuji turbine @ 8-9 psi with a 1.5mm needle. Mix was 10% thinner and 5% retarded. I likely should have gone higher on the retarder.

It's extremely "odorfull" when spraying though. A decent charcoal respirator is needed and a spray booth or the great outdoors.
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Wow! What until Nick sees this. He is going to lose his mind. That machine would be worth every penny if I made cabinets all the time.

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Ha!

That machine is actually primarily for hinge boring / pressing. The shelf pin head is an add on for smaller shops without room for a dedicated line boring machine. A more common machine is a single head 13 to 23 spindle borer. The bigger line borers will do 46 holes at once (two rows of 23 holes.)
 

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Wow! What until Nick sees this. He is going to lose his mind. That machine would be worth every penny if I made cabinets all the time.

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Ha!

That machine is actually primarily for hinge boring / pressing. The shelf pin head is an add on for smaller shops without room for a dedicated line boring machine. A more common machine is a single head 13 to 23 spindle borer. The bigger line borers will do 46 holes at once (two rows of 23 holes.)

Lol! :ROFLMAO:

I think I did see this earlier in the thread but not the video. I am losing my mind! That would have saved me at least 5 hrs on my pantry build.

First time I saw a line boring machine was a few years ago on Mike Farrington's youtube channel. I instantly wanted one. Then I looked up the prices. :oops:

Jar needs it with the amount of cabinets he makes!!!

@jar944 badass work as usual, I'm lovin' the grain on those drawers and boxes, they came out real nice
 
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Didn't bother showing this earlier but in the name of efficiency, this is how I notch the drawers for the blum slides. I've done it a few different ways, but none are as fast or as clean as the adjustable groover in the shaper. Takes about 3 seconds per notch.

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Are you using Blum undermount instead of side mount for space reasons or something else?

TIA! (I have a heavy pantry-style drawer I'm adding to my shop and looking at slide options).
 
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Are you using Blum undermount instead of side mount for space reasons or something else?

TIA! (I have a heavy pantry-style drawer I'm adding to my shop and looking at slide options).
Undermount slides are relatively standard for kitchen cabinets. You do give up 1/2" of drawer depth though. There are two main reason to use them.
1. They are completely hidden
2. With the right locking device they are adjustable in three dimensions to get the correct drawer reveals.
 

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Knowing nothing about wood work, I think your work looks amazing!

Off Topic: I am looking into Zero Turn mowers right now and spotted your JD there. What model is it and how do you like it? How many acres are you mowing, how long have you had it, etc...TIA :)
 
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Knowing nothing about wood work, I think your work looks amazing!

Off Topic: I am looking into Zero Turn mowers right now and spotted your JD there. What model is it and how do you like it? How many acres are you mowing, how long have you had it, etc...TIA :)
Lol

It's a z830a w/ the 60" deck. I've had it for 5 years now. Only owing 2 acres with more obstacles than I can count. If I just mow I can be done in 75 minutes. I've had various issues with it, however most (all) of them have been related to the original owners lack of maintenance (or general hackery) overall it's been a good machine

They only made them in 2008 & 2009. The replacement was the 900 series.
 

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Jar that last few pics of that drawer the grain pattern on the Plywood. Is this recently purchased plywood? Or is it something you bought sometime ago? I built some cabinets in 2006 and had this exact pattern on the plywood. I haven't seen this type of plywood in the big box stores in years. Just curious if you bought it recently.

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Jar that last few pics of that drawer the grain pattern on the Plywood. Is this recently purchased plywood? Or is it something you bought sometime ago? I built some cabinets in 2006 and had this exact pattern on the plywood. I haven't seen this type of plywood in the big box stores in years. Just curious if you bought it recently.

Bret

I'm assuming this or this?
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Both are birch. (Columbia forest products purebond) made in the West Virginia plant March of 2020
 
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