Urinal where toilet was

[OverkillYJ]

So I got a urinal, and I am going to mount it on this block wall. Under it is a vent pipe running horizontal along the wall, and a water pipe I will move. I need to plumb this into the 4" pipe in my floor that the toilet was on. This flange is sitting in poured concrete.

What is the BEST way to do that that will have as little bulk as possible and not require I chisel the pipe out? I think I am going to cover it with a little raised floor so I can stand right there. The urinal is 1-1/2" pipe. I went to my local hardware store, because I dont know what my options are here, and they were lost. The 4" pipe is 12" from the wall on center. I have no problem plumbing the urinal down to the floor there, I just am not sure the best way to adapt it to fit.

Thanks for the help.

 

[OverkillYJ]

More pics. I can also try to take the flange off that 4" pipe with a heat gun if it will make a huge difference. I cant figure out if I should bring that 4" pipe up to the wall or not. Or if my only option is to break the concrete under the tile.

 

[nadogail]

There is no way that I would trade the Toilet in my shop for a Urinal. Urinals will not do when my body scream "Time to take a Dump".

 

[tarmy]

Pee in that filthy sink…

 

[PoorUB]

Tie it into the sink drain and cap the toilet flange.

 

[OverkillYJ]

There is no way that I would trade the Toilet in my shop for a Urinal. Urinals will not do when my body scream "Time to take a Dump".

Thats because you live in CA. I live in Philadelphia. I dont heat my shop in the winter when I am not in it. A urinal I can pee in year round and dump a 1/2 gallon of saltwater through at the end of the day during the winter. My house is only 25ft away if I need a toilet.

The sink is brown because it is the moisture drain for the air lines throughout the shop.

 

[Meursault74]

Pee in that filthy sink…

I'd pee in the sink. It's your shop, it's all going down the drain anyway.

Someone had posted this elsewhere..............

Here is why all men should pee in the sink.​

• Pee is sterile. Unless someone has a urinary tract infection, no one is going to catch any communicable disease by coming into contact with trace amounts of pee.
• Using a couple of gallons to flush pee is a major waste of water. Potable water is a valuable resource that should not be wasted on pee.
• For peeing in the sink to work, it requires hand washing. The main argument against peeing in the sink, as I see it, is the smell. To eliminate the smell, pee can not be on the drain side of the U-shaped trap beneath the sink. Washing one's hands well easily flushes/dilutes the pee to the point that it becomes odorless. Thus peeing in the sink encourages better hand-washing, and may therefore be partly responsible for controlling the spread of swine flu.
• For the reason just stated, peeing in the sink essentially kills two birds with one stone (or flushes two waste fluids with one use of potable water). Thus peeing in the sink is the 'green' way to pee

 

[HoosierMark]

Heres a thought. Flip the positions. Put the sink over the toilet drain and hook the urinal up to the sink drain. Not sure what you really gain by switching from toilet to urinal. Why not just put a small electric heater in the space set for 40 degrees? You will still need to keep supply and drain lines for sink and urinal from freezing with whatever fixture you have installed. I guess you could blow them out but that is a hassle. Also the hassle of having salt water handy can be a pain. Simple heater is lazy mans way.

 

[Hooked]

Or, my method, step outside to take a pee. Of course, that is, except when my wife is out there at the time.

 

[HoosierMark]

If you want to convert the 4 inch to a 2 inch or 1.5 inch here is an easy way to do it. Get a piece of light steel or heavy plastic and cut it to match the outside diameter of the toilet flange. Put some toilet bolts in like you were going to set a toilet, probably all four of the openings. Drill the size hole you want and fasten the pipe to it via a coupling Let the pipe stick thru a couple of inches so it drains well past area. Now take a toilet metal repair flange and place it over the plastic or metal to make a sandwich and fasten it down. Or you can use tapcons and just fasten it down with them

 

[DAustin]

I worked in a really old plant that had a large circular stone sink (you could get 5-6 people around it) where you stepped on a bar to turn on the water. We had one guy that would pee and wash his hands at the same time. He was a real class guy.

 

[Toolfool]

Buy one of these https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07464LM82/?tag=atomicindus08-20 to cut the flange off. Install a 4" x 1-1/2" PVC adapter , a 1-1/2" PVC 45 plus pipe to wall.

 

[DAustin]

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[bp460]

This doesn't really solve your problem, but it does bolt to a standard floor flange and it looks really cool!

 

[FMB4]

A urinal I can pee in year round and dump a 1/2 gallon of saltwater through at the end of the day during the winter. My house is only 25ft away if I need a toilet.

Cap the toilet flange and walk the 25ft to your house to pee is my advice. I say this because the distance from my/our garage to my bathroom is 3x the distance of your setup. But then again, if you just want to have urinal for sake of having such, then go with the above advice.

 

[Lassen Forge]

I worked in a really old plant that had a large circular stone sink (you could get 5-6 people around it) where you stepped on a bar to turn on the water. We had one guy that would pee and wash his hands at the same time. He was a real class guy.

That's all because the fountain sink didn't have warm water to wash hands with, so he had to make his own...

 

[mrvm]

I worked in a really old plant that had a large circular stone sink (you could get 5-6 people around it) where you stepped on a bar to turn on the water. We had one guy that would pee and wash his hands at the same time. He was a real class guy.

Can’t shake that vision of 5-6 guys around that large circular stone sink letting go in unison

 

[DAustin]

Can’t shake that vision of 5-6 guys around that large circular stone sink letting go in unison

He was the only one doing it, and no one wanted to next to him when he let go.

 

[egdede]

Might be better being next to him than across from him....

 

[DAustin]

Might be better being next to him than across from him....

He was not the brightest crayon in the box. I don't think it was safe anywhere in the room when he was in there.

 

[Lassen Forge]

Hey, don't call him not bright, he was known as the Whiz kid...

 

[OverkillYJ]

So this is how I have it so far. I bought a PVC flange for a toilet, flipped it upside down, and stuck a ring between them the same as installing a toilet. Then I reduced the size and ran my plumbing. I am going to build a little table over it.

I also power washed my sink, but it still looked like ****, so I hit it with some white enamel. Its a cast iron shop sink, so painted is fine with me.

 

[DAustin]

So this is how I have it so far. I bought a PVC flange for a toilet, flipped it upside down, and stuck a ring between them the same as installing a toilet. Then I reduced the size and ran my plumbing. I am going to build a little table over it.

I also power washed my sink, but it still looked like ****, so I hit it with some white enamel. Its a cast iron shop sink, so painted is fine with me.

how tall are you that you have to piss in a funnel ?

 

[OverkillYJ]

how tall are you that you have to piss in a funnel ?

Cold weather flushing, I use a 1 gallon jug on the shelf above it. Now I just need to figure out a liquid safe to put down the drain besides salt water that wont freeze in the winter or corrode my cast iron pipes. I can plumb the valve for it, but best case scenario I could only turn the water back on for a week or two in my shop. I would like to run pex so I can always leave it on, but I am afraid if I rip the copper out of the run they used under the building, I may not be able to shove the pex through the hole. I am going to run pex from the copper to everything now, and someday when the copper fails attempt the pex. I painted the copper hoping to slot the oxidation on it. I dont even know if that will work, I just figured I would treat the green like rust on steel and see what happens.