The Frisco Kid
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Those look pretty good!
Above 1200 Sq/FT Eastern Washington Workshop
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
Components for the lathe controls arrived. I screwed up reading the dimensions on the drive somehow. Enclosure is a lot deeper than needed. Guess it will have plenty of airspace for cooling! The thing on the left is the braking resistor. Very cool flat setup.
Main disconnect on the side:
DRO:
Main disconnect on the side:
DRO:
Thank you! I’m sure I’ll have some questions. My other machines have tool height measuring built into the control. It doesn’t look like I can do that with the old Haas control. I do have the Edge Technology tool setter ordered. This machine will have its own tools. I’ll get them measured and will have that info on the 3d printed tags. Hoping for no Z crashes into these:
Finallygotit
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It would be a sin to crash into that gorgeous vise. Very nice all around.
WoodsTruck
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I keep stopping by to pick up upholstery tips.
I'll need to re-read the manual on my Consew 99 to figure out how to justify the Mill, CNC Lathe, Prusa, and a big shop to support it.
Nice work.
I'll need to re-read the manual on my Consew 99 to figure out how to justify the Mill, CNC Lathe, Prusa, and a big shop to support it.
Nice work.
Not sure about that old a control; I did see a "Tool Offset Measure" button on your control panel, second row far left below the RESET button. On my mill, to access that menu I go Manual mode, cursor over to Setup tab, cursor over to Tool. Touch off the tool on the Edge gage or whatever the reference surface is, press the Tool Offset Measure button and it'll copy the absolute Z position to the tool offset table for the currently loaded tool.
Jealous! I've heard very good things about Orange!Hoping for no Z crashes into these:
The Practical Machinist forum is my go-to for help in this field. It's oriented toward manufacturing, but still a good resource to have in your back pocket.
I’ve been on PM for over a decade. Since I had my first Logan bench top lathe. I spend a lot of time reading over there. I notice questions often go unanswered. I tend to lurk and read. They did love seeing the Pacemaker.
Thankfully I got all of the manuals for the Haas from the original Inner. I have some reading to do.
Thankfully I got all of the manuals for the Haas from the original Inner. I have some reading to do.
I found two online manuals helpful, one for the operator and one for the programmer. The operator manual has a procedure for setting tool length offsets on pp 37-38.
Haas also have older documentation available for download on their DIY/support website.
Ah, you replied while I was composing. Again, please don't hesitate to reach out if I can help.
WoodsTruck
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The 99 is advertised as a walking foot, zig-zag/straight stitch with reverse.
What did I miss from class?
The 99 is not a machine you will typically find in an upholstery shop. I've never seen one. Straight stitch, heavy duty, big bobbin walking foot is what I use. Most are based on the Singer 211W design - horizontal hook, compound feed, walking foot. The newer machines have a high foot lift and other features that lend well to upholstery work.
Machined the second large breaker testing stab. Went well.
Then I cleaned up the mill, changed vise jaws, and got it ready for the next project - a new T-nut for the tool post on the Acra lathe.
I printed the t-nut to check dimensions, and because I wanted to see how it would turn out. It's very close to the designed dimensions, and it answered the question I had about how tight to make the part. I'm going to go for about 0.005 undersized so it will slide in. 3d printed part turned out really nice.
And, printed a box for the foam from the oversized case the tool height setter came in.
Then I cleaned up the mill, changed vise jaws, and got it ready for the next project - a new T-nut for the tool post on the Acra lathe.
I printed the t-nut to check dimensions, and because I wanted to see how it would turn out. It's very close to the designed dimensions, and it answered the question I had about how tight to make the part. I'm going to go for about 0.005 undersized so it will slide in. 3d printed part turned out really nice.
And, printed a box for the foam from the oversized case the tool height setter came in.
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lilscorpion
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Well now that’s a neat idea.
lilscorpion
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Those vise twins could be in a juicy fruit commercial…New tooling is always fun. Two Orange dual station vises and an Edge Technologies tool height setter.
The Calmotion installation is almost complete. Waiting on a panel mount Ethernet port to wrap things up.
Now I get to start learning a 20 year old Haas control!
John Saunders has some cool ideas for this. That’s where I got it. I found the tool tag .stl on Thingiverse.
They are very nice vises!
lilscorpion
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Think nice is an understatement. I was looking at them yesterday in fact. Did you get the double vise add-on? Being able to fixture 4 parts at a time would be amazing. Only way it could be better is to have Tool pallets.
They both are dual station configured as single station. They had a black Friday sale that sucked me in. The right vise has Anderson Manufacturing Serra Jaws. They grip the bottom 0.060 of the part. The eBay setup I have on the other mill are 0.100 tall. The left will have soft jaws most of the time. The Orange vises have Carvesmart dovetail interface built it. It’s really cool for changing vise jaws quickly with repeatable position.
Orange vises have a pallet interface built in. I bought one pallet to have on hand. The pallet sits directly on the base and the carrier grabs ahold of it. Pretty badass. I’m thinking I’ll mount a Pierson vacuum plate on an Orange pallet.
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Ethernet bulkhead connector arrived today. I wanted to use the existing ethernet expansion option slot in the enclosure. Designed a small mounting escutcheon and 3d printed the part in PETG.
Thickened the part so the nuts cleared the existing opening in the enclosure.
Backside:
First iteration had the screws looking goofy:
Quick countersink and printed the part again. Much better!
I am well aware the screws were fine. It was a fun exercise in CAD and I enjoy the details. It's a great way to relax this evening after the workday.
In other news.... THE PLASMA ARRIVES MONDAY!!! (I might be really excited!)
Thickened the part so the nuts cleared the existing opening in the enclosure.
Backside:
First iteration had the screws looking goofy:
Quick countersink and printed the part again. Much better!
I am well aware the screws were fine. It was a fun exercise in CAD and I enjoy the details. It's a great way to relax this evening after the workday.
In other news.... THE PLASMA ARRIVES MONDAY!!! (I might be really excited!)
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lilscorpion
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Well that's freakin' neat. I woulda machined it out of AL and spent like 4 hours on it.
I had originally planned to machine out of aluminum. I did spend a while iterating on the design until I was happy. The 3d printed part lacked nothing, so I used it.
As I have more success with 3d modeling I make a quick test part to check fitment, prove the idea, etc with the 3d printer. It’s nearly instant feedback on the model and idea. So damn cool!
lilscorpion
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It's most certainly damn cool.
Finallygotit
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No.....REALLY?!?!?! Hahahahaha.......... (about the excited part)
I'm enjoying watching you learn to use new stuff.
nicholam77
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The 3D printed Ethernet mourning block is really neat!
lilscorpion
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Now I want a printer again…
lilscorpion
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Sorry, a little tired and posted to the wrong thread.
Chrisb62
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Seems to be a weekly statement......... not that it is a bad thing in any way.
You mention a new direction for the shop and can’t wait till it is explained, but I can see now where it may be leading.
racer-john
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I am sitting here wide-eyed and salivating.
lilscorpion
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A whole day has passed and no update? I kinda expected to see some shop art by now...
Machine is temporarily set in place. I’ll need to run some electrical and air to it
Currently working on this:
Bladder system to raise, lower, store, empty, and fill the water table. I don’t want a 40sq ft pond in my shop when I’m not using the plasma. This will allow me to quickly and effortlessly fill and empty the table when I need to. And adjust level in use. Should work well. This is what I’m currently working on.
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The air pressure will be very low. Picked up this little regulator while I was in town getting supplies.
Currently working on this:
Bladder system to raise, lower, store, empty, and fill the water table. I don’t want a 40sq ft pond in my shop when I’m not using the plasma. This will allow me to quickly and effortlessly fill and empty the table when I need to. And adjust level in use. Should work well. This is what I’m currently working on.
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The air pressure will be very low. Picked up this little regulator while I was in town getting supplies.
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This is a view from the top, looking down. The barrels are not the same, so there will be a little goofyness to it. I'm okay with that. Before the pvc police chime in, this will never be pressurized to more than 5 psi. There's literally zero hazard at 5 psi max. With that, I will be putting compressed air into pvc.
Dry fit looks good. One of my design intents was to be able to isolate each barrel, replace barrels, without cutting the whole apparatus up. I think this does it. Vertical 2" valve is the plasma table isolation, obvious isolation for each tank. There's a hose bib for draining the whole assembly in the bottom of that 2" header. The 3/4" pipe is for air. Supply comes in the left. Right 3/4 valve is the vent for the air to escape when emptying the table into the barrels. I think once I weld the fittings together they will be pretty close to one another. It's okay with me if there's a little space. I'll fit the middle 3/4 line in place once the rest is welded and in place under the table.
Looks like this is going to work. Before final assembly I'm going to weld up the tank isolations and fill with some water to make sure the outlet connections don't leak.
Dry fit looks good. One of my design intents was to be able to isolate each barrel, replace barrels, without cutting the whole apparatus up. I think this does it. Vertical 2" valve is the plasma table isolation, obvious isolation for each tank. There's a hose bib for draining the whole assembly in the bottom of that 2" header. The 3/4" pipe is for air. Supply comes in the left. Right 3/4 valve is the vent for the air to escape when emptying the table into the barrels. I think once I weld the fittings together they will be pretty close to one another. It's okay with me if there's a little space. I'll fit the middle 3/4 line in place once the rest is welded and in place under the table.
Looks like this is going to work. Before final assembly I'm going to weld up the tank isolations and fill with some water to make sure the outlet connections don't leak.
Manufacturer called for 8' forks. Rental company only had 5'.
The documentation showed lifting the machine from the side. They end loaded it. Telehandler made short work of getting the machine to the rear of the trailer.
Once we got it to the rear of the trailer we knew we had a good pick. We had thought we may need to strap it to the headache rack.
Wasn't necessary.
This is such a cool view. Same friends have helped every time I've had this awesome scene coming up toward me in the shop. Cheers to great supportive friends that will get up early on their day off and freeze their asses off to help me out!
This is the third machine we've picked with the Mohawk lift. It works so well. Unbolted the machine and slid the huge 8' x 12' pallet out.
HF car dollies to roll the machine into position. I moved the machine by myself. It's so satisfying moving things that way one or more tons by myself. It's all about good rigging equipment. In this case, four similar dollys.
Floor jack to set it on the ground.
The documentation showed lifting the machine from the side. They end loaded it. Telehandler made short work of getting the machine to the rear of the trailer.
Once we got it to the rear of the trailer we knew we had a good pick. We had thought we may need to strap it to the headache rack.
Wasn't necessary.
This is such a cool view. Same friends have helped every time I've had this awesome scene coming up toward me in the shop. Cheers to great supportive friends that will get up early on their day off and freeze their asses off to help me out!
This is the third machine we've picked with the Mohawk lift. It works so well. Unbolted the machine and slid the huge 8' x 12' pallet out.
HF car dollies to roll the machine into position. I moved the machine by myself. It's so satisfying moving things that way one or more tons by myself. It's all about good rigging equipment. In this case, four similar dollys.
Floor jack to set it on the ground.
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Klokwerk
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Oh, I'm digging the new gear! The cnc plasma table is good for up to 1" right?
How do you handle and metals in the water? Have a filtration setup? or just a big magnet?
Again, shop is looking really good. Hard to tell you do upholstery in there!
How do you handle and metals in the water? Have a filtration setup? or just a big magnet?
Again, shop is looking really good. Hard to tell you do upholstery in there!
Initially there were a few things that I really didn't like about the machine.. The control enclosure door is hinged on the bottom. Effectively eliminating the ability to sit in front of it and diagnose, make a change, etc. Super dumb choice on their part. It is intentional. The drill unit VFD has no power diconnect. They suggest unplugging when not in use. This is a very expensive machine. Unplugging is just ********. The monitor/keyboard setup is between 8.5" and 28" off the floor. My super short lowrider Snap-On roller stool is the only thing I have that I can use to sit at it. I'm still blown away it's made to sit at. The rest of my CNC machines are built to stand while operating, as is typical.
And.. the control is WinCNC. I'm sure it's a matter of time before it goes in the trash. I'll do my best to make friends with it. But, I bought it knowing that was a possible outcome. With those annoying details out of the way, the machine is straight up awesome. Motion is **** as **** and it's just a well put together machine.
There's a LOT to getting this thing integrated into the shop:
Leak testing on the barrel isolation valves is going well so far. I'll let them sit overnight and continue tomorrow.
And.. the control is WinCNC. I'm sure it's a matter of time before it goes in the trash. I'll do my best to make friends with it. But, I bought it knowing that was a possible outcome. With those annoying details out of the way, the machine is straight up awesome. Motion is **** as **** and it's just a well put together machine.
There's a LOT to getting this thing integrated into the shop:
- AIR: there's a lot of air on the table - plasma, drill unit, scribe, air blow nozzle, plasma source, and the air bladder under the table. I think I have everything on hand. And, I have to run a line to the machine from the shop header.
- POWER: it needs three circuits. It's a lot of pipe and wire to pull in.
- WATER: the air bladder system has to be installed before I fill the table. I'll have to lift one end quite a bit to get it under. Then get it all connected. Looks like I'll be able to do the plumbing itself outside the table with the exception of the vertical drop from the table isolation valve. Should go well.
- SHEET METAL: I need to buy some. I have a sheet of 1/4 and 5/16. I want some 10, 12, and 14 ga as well. I'd also like some scrap so I'm not dialing things in on nice material.
Leak testing on the barrel isolation valves is going well so far. I'll let them sit overnight and continue tomorrow.
It will make sense over time..
I have almost zero willingness to make the typical sheet metal signs that so many folks made. I want to do different things with it. It won't get used a whole lot. Some job shop/contract work and things for the shop. Time will tell.
The Powermax 85 will machine pierce 5/8" according to their specs. Guys are doing much thicker. It will definitely edge cut 1". I'll do a little bit of 1" stuff for the shop here and there. I wanted to be able to run 1/2" plate without issue. This should do the trick. My bigger issue with thicker plate is material handling. I'll need a pallet stacker and probably a forklift. For the heavy stuff I'll most likely stick to working with 4x4 chunks.
Thank you. I'm not taking in any upholstery work for a while. Focused on other work.
Thanks for following along guys!
lilscorpion
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I have almost zero willingness to make the typical sheet metal signs that so many folks made. I want to do different things with it. It won't get used a whole lot. Some job shop/contract work and things for the shop. Time will tell.
I totally get it. Then I think it’s only fitting to cut one of these for your shop.
Finallygotit
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I really like your idea with the water barrels. I'll be waiting to see how this works in real time.
Great job!
Great job!