DHS
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Yep safety valves.
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Take a look at the ones in this thread....the first one is the coolest I've ever seen.
Ken
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Ken
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jwith68
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danmc77, that is a very cool old compressor! I am amazed at the nice condition it is in.
You definitely have a two stage machine there. Notice how the larger of the cylinders feeds into the smaller one, through the finned tube that runs across the top. That is an inter-stage cooler or heat exchanger, to get rid of some of the heat of compression from the first stage.
You definitely have a two stage machine there. Notice how the larger of the cylinders feeds into the smaller one, through the finned tube that runs across the top. That is an inter-stage cooler or heat exchanger, to get rid of some of the heat of compression from the first stage.
Thanks. Can't wait to get the thing up and running. I'm going to build an enclosure for it outside of my garage and plumb it in. I guess I just have to work on running a dedicated electrical circuit for it, and start with a concrete pad. I guess I'll have to find some heavy duty rubber insulators for the feet to reduce as much vibration as possible. Also thinking about running an intake tube out the top for fresh air. Besides insulation, anybody have any suggestions of any type of product that insulates noise really well? I'll have to also figure out how to vent the enclosure to reduce heat, but keep it quiet.
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I bet it will be quieter than you think, especially if you put an intake filter/muffler on it, plus that pump must turn CRAZY slow.
DHS
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It will be quieter than you think. I thought it was weird that there was not a intake filter on it, just draws air in around fill cap. I thought about putting a piece of foam around mine to try and filter some of the air.
bsaint
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Mine has the vented cap as well, but it also has an itake pipe plumbed into the larger cylinder valve plate. If you look at my pics, there is a verticle pipe right behind the larger cylinder that has a white oild filter threaded on the end. Not sure if that will affect performance, but when I turned it over by hand, it definetly sucked in air when I put my thumb over the tube opening.
BillyT0020
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Hey Guys,
Just picked up this old girl this afternoon. Dont know much about it except that it runs, and I think its an Ingersoll Rand. Anyone ever seen one of these before? I plan on repainting it, putting a new on-off switch (although not sure what kind but the guy before me has it rigged up with a light switch!) and maybe changing the air out put plumbing. The only thing I could find on the actual unit was a date plate of 1947 and what appears to be a fadded Ingersoll Rand logo on the top of the tank. Havn't had time to clean it up and inspect further yet.
Thanks in advance for any insight you could provide!
Billy
Just picked up this old girl this afternoon. Dont know much about it except that it runs, and I think its an Ingersoll Rand. Anyone ever seen one of these before? I plan on repainting it, putting a new on-off switch (although not sure what kind but the guy before me has it rigged up with a light switch!) and maybe changing the air out put plumbing. The only thing I could find on the actual unit was a date plate of 1947 and what appears to be a fadded Ingersoll Rand logo on the top of the tank. Havn't had time to clean it up and inspect further yet.
Thanks in advance for any insight you could provide!
Billy
BetterDays
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I may be acquiring an old Kellogg compressor over the next week or so.
No specs on it yet..
Price is good, just need specs and to see if I can wire my garage to utilize it...
No specs on it yet..
Price is good, just need specs and to see if I can wire my garage to utilize it...
Dale B
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That green pump is off a Speedaire (Grainger )
BillyT0020
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Thanks for the info. Yeah after some inspecting last night, it seems both the motor and pump have been replaced (bolts dont line up). Motor is a Century Repulsion Start Induction Single Phase Motor. Model RS-203-BC3-3CF. 1HP, 1750 RPM. 60 Cycles. 115/230 volts. 12.2/6.1 Amps. Serial No AAS. Can't dig up an age on it though.
I also need to figure out how to switch the wiring on the motor from 110 to 220. The motor has 4 wires and currently just has the hot 110 wire going to 2and the nuetral to the other 2. I also am not sure if I will need a new pressure switch if I change voltage. Any help there would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Billy
Ramblur
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Couple old ones from an auction I went to in Jan.
Model "A" Ford compressor,2 cylinders for running and 2 for pumping air
And another equally vintage one...
Model "A" Ford compressor,2 cylinders for running and 2 for pumping air
And another equally vintage one...
G_P
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This ones still sitting in my old shop in Ohio. Vintage,means I'm afraid to plug
it in...
Thats some homemade rig. The black ball on top is the refrigerant compressor out of a fridge or freezer. Super quiet almost silent. Lots of guys build them today with small 1-2gallon tanks for airbrushing. Low CFM's but almost no noise.
Jeepman, is that the tag on the pump or the tank? There might be a tag on the pump itself showing the series. If you can figure that out then check this link for a break down and parts - http://www.devairusa.com/Devair_Pumps/Pump_Breakdowns.htm - They are pretty simple. You could pull the head easy enough and check the cylinders and valves.
I found a .pdf file I had saved that lists lots if not all of Devilbiss air compressor specs by model number and sorted by size. Its too big post as an attachment on the forum. I can email it to you if you pm me. Its lists motor hp, unit number, unit weight, fuel, number of drives, max pressure, pump #, pump rpm, disp. CFM, del'y CFM, tank size, and compressor name. This should help you figure out what pump you have to get parts if needed. You could also check the performance of your pump against the manufacturers specs to see if it does indeed need repair. I have an old Devilbiss pump like you and it takes 20 minutes to pump up to 160 psi from zero on a 60 gal tank. I thought this was too long but after doing some testing and comparing it to the specs its right on the money at 4.5 delivery CFM. It sure is a lot more pleasing to listen to at a rhythmic 450 rpm than a modern pump with a 3200 rpm motor!
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The last 2 pics from my other post are from the bottom of the compressor on the frame. I can't find any on the compressor itself...
This one is from the tank
I agree about the noise...this one is real quite. I thought maybe it was running slow, but maybe that is the way these where made. They made them to last!! I figured out the CFM's once...and thought it was really low. 4 or 5 CFM's sounds about what it was. I just thought they should push faster.
This one is from the tank
I agree about the noise...this one is real quite. I thought maybe it was running slow, but maybe that is the way these where made. They made them to last!! I figured out the CFM's once...and thought it was really low. 4 or 5 CFM's sounds about what it was. I just thought they should push faster.
It looks like a 2 stage, it should certainly be doing more than 4-5CFM if it is unless its got a fractional HP motor on it. Should be anywhere between 10-15CFM.
If its never been cleaned its probably a mess inside. The one i just recently took apart was from the 50s and had a good qaurter inch of muck built up in the pressure chambers. One of the valve blades was broken as well. They will still work even with these issues. Make sure you can get parts before you start tearing it apart since the gaskets tend to be pretty tenacious after sitting that long.
If its never been cleaned its probably a mess inside. The one i just recently took apart was from the 50s and had a good qaurter inch of muck built up in the pressure chambers. One of the valve blades was broken as well. They will still work even with these issues. Make sure you can get parts before you start tearing it apart since the gaskets tend to be pretty tenacious after sitting that long.
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Picked this one up a few months ago. Tag on the tank says 1957....
I pulled the side plate off the compressor sump and cleaned out the muck, and I had to plug a small hole on the bottom. It's not plumbed in yet -- still need to make a space for it.
I pulled the side plate off the compressor sump and cleaned out the muck, and I had to plug a small hole on the bottom. It's not plumbed in yet -- still need to make a space for it.
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Well, I can say I have seen one now, Thats an hermetic AC Comperessor mounted atop some kind of accumulator, Youre memory is deciving you as there is NO way to service one in the field, the motor and comp are one unit, assembled with shaft verticaly inside the tin can, welded shut on the horizontal seam you see, problem would be oil in the sump, see ll the .250 lines going to no where.
You realize that is a Quincy, right?
Appreciate any info on this vintage Sears air compressor I picked up.
Also if anyone knows where I can get an instruction manual/sheet.
Model 283.1842
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Also if anyone knows where I can get an instruction manual/sheet.
Model 283.1842
Link to more pictures.
www.garagejournal.com/forum/album.php?albumid=818
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John Timmins
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Here's my FERO Air Pump actual age unknown. Arnie Fero's web site reads that his grandfather and father made these from the early 1900s to late
1930s. I could faintly see a GULF decal under the paint. The FERO company sold 100s of these to GULF stations. Mine came form a GULF station in Palatka Florida.
After the new year this will be my winter project to paint this up and put new FERO and GULF decals on it. It runs fine. I plan on improving the wiring and adding a starting contactor on-off switch. The motor is not original of course nor the pressure switch or discharge hose. It likely weighs 500 pounds if not more.
It is single phase 220 volt 3 HP. the unloading mechanism works perfectly and the compressor turns about 900 RPM.
I am always looking for FERO information.
1930s. I could faintly see a GULF decal under the paint. The FERO company sold 100s of these to GULF stations. Mine came form a GULF station in Palatka Florida.
After the new year this will be my winter project to paint this up and put new FERO and GULF decals on it. It runs fine. I plan on improving the wiring and adding a starting contactor on-off switch. The motor is not original of course nor the pressure switch or discharge hose. It likely weighs 500 pounds if not more.
It is single phase 220 volt 3 HP. the unloading mechanism works perfectly and the compressor turns about 900 RPM.
I am always looking for FERO information.
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Here is an old Ingersol-Rand compressor we had out back. I wanted to fix it up but dad scrapped it 
I never could figure out the brand of motor but the trailer was on Steel wheels so it was probably before the 40's.
I never could figure out the brand of motor but the trailer was on Steel wheels so it was probably before the 40's.
trbomax
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My dad had one like when i was I kid ! It had a diaphram to compress the air.I think it only made about 20 psi. Had a little bleeder spray gun with it.
edit) this would have been in the early 50's if that helps.
Grumpy365
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1950s or early 60s Kellogg 340TV pump, looks like the original motor too. Its a shop grade compressor, easily ~25 CFM or more. If you punch the model number into google you should find some more info. Parts are probably still available. I noticed you said its noisy, if it sounds like slap its probably the connecting rod bearings and judging by the filth on it, it probably could use a good cleaning. They can be pricey to repair. Kellogg as it was back when they made those is no more. They're now owned by Compair.
Unless its got sentimental value i say use it until it pumps no more. Refurbishing can be a project
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I recently purchased an old compressor at an auction. It is a two stage compressor on a horizontal 60 gal tank. There is a plate on the tank but I cannot find a name of any kind on the compressor. The pump is unusual in that the cylinders and the head are cast together. While I don't know much about compressors, I have been unable to find one like it on the internet or even one with the clinders and the head made from one casting. the tank was made in 1972 by kargard.
I know the exit valve on the little cylinder is broken and the others are gunked up. the valve assembly is 1 1/2" in diameter and app 1/4" thick.
I suspect that the pump needs new rings since there is no resistanse when the pulley is turned.(i can feel the piston moving in the small cylinder by removing the intake valve.)
Any help on identifying or finding parts will be appreciated.
I know the exit valve on the little cylinder is broken and the others are gunked up. the valve assembly is 1 1/2" in diameter and app 1/4" thick.
I suspect that the pump needs new rings since there is no resistanse when the pulley is turned.(i can feel the piston moving in the small cylinder by removing the intake valve.)
Any help on identifying or finding parts will be appreciated.
For my first post, I have my not quite vintage 1974 Montgomery Ward Air Compressor. I tore it down, replaced the bearings, cut some new gaskets, cleaned out the motor... Doesn't seem to build up more than 25 psi in the tank though... I'm guessing the reed valves need to be replaced?
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I put this in a separate thread, but got no response. Any ideas what this is? I am not at all sure of vintage, or brand. Click for larger pics.
That is a Kellogg-American---the pump model is 335
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that looks very much like the Champion R15B pump I have. Parts/kits are still available if it is.
Good Luck!
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I'd be interested if you find anything, I just picked up what looks like the same unit. Its marked as "Sprayit" made in Sheboygan, WI by The Electric Sprayit Company. Model number is 354, MFG number 1049. I'll post some pix when I can. Details are identical (pulley/motor are different, but those are more or less commodity items)
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Darrin88
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i have huge 2 cylinder single stage devilbiss pump on a compressor i started building, then i realized one side doesnt make as much air as the other i took apart the valves cleaned them and reassembled and still the same. im guessing it needs rings, but when i ran the number on the devaire site it came up as discontinued with no parts available. so where to find rings?it was a tank from an hvac 2 motor 2 pump setup, i mounted this pump and bought a new motor and starter.
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