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Vintage CHROME? Columbian Vise

Chrome or not chrome, that is the question.

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GhostintheMachineShop

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So once again, something I've never seen, even after scrolling through 1000's of pics of vises. Went to buy an enameling oven (to heat treat metal) which came with HUNDREDS of bottles of enameling powder and the tools whatnot to enamel any and everything and lo and behold there, on the floor, was a vise. A chrome vise. This thing isn't painted silver, this thing is chromed, almost certain of it. I took 1 crappy pic but I'm picking it up on Tuesday. I believe the model # is 2050 but I can't find a thing about a chrome vise.


Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?

PS Wtf are those jaws??
 

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Nice looking vise.
Chrome plating would be flaking a bit where it’s chipped. Do you see any of that?

That shiny look might just be bare metal meticulously shined up with progressively finer abrasives. A scotchbrite wheel will get cast iron pretty shiny and then wax or Fluid Film would retard darkening.
 

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I thought bonney made something like that. Seems like someone posted one...
 
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I was too excited and didn't wanna show my cards so I didn't inspect and detect it, just said I'd prolly take it for a fair price cause I have another Columbian. $100 seems OK ya? Especially considering I had just scored at least a 1500° oven for $40.
 
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It was a little old lady's craft basement. I don't think she had the equipment or the thought prolly to do all that polishing, but who knows! Will report and post better pics on Tue.
 

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For a brief period Columbian made an all steel vise, the 804. That steel shines up almost Like chrome. But the shape of that vise is different.

These mounting tabs are unlike any vise I have seen.

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GhostintheMachineShop

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Wow wrenchguy, that thing is gorgeous. I just can't see this little old lady going through what it would take to do that. But again, who knows? She was the crafter in the fam, it was told to me no one else was interested in the stuff, had to be hers. Maybe a leftover from a husband that passed, dunno. Will find out Tuesday fer certain.
 

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If it's chrome, it might be a presentation vise. Or, it could be some guy worked in a chrome shop and had some time on his hands. A buddy of mine chrome plated the entire front suspension of his 1953 Chevy sometime in the late '60's.
 
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So after some research, I may be changing my vote. It does seem to be polished. Reason I went to chromed was because it did look like some flaking where it was chipped. I dunno, can't wait for tomorrow tho. What y'all think about the price? I mean $100 seems fairish for any vintage vise that isn't ate up but I paid $30 for my other Columbian. They don't seem to be the MOST sought after but my jaw dropped when I saw it. I'ma get it either way just wondering if I should haggle some.
 

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Did she say if it was for sale? You may just see what it’s worth to her before blurting out $100. If she’s clueless about it and can’t conjure up a number, I’d probably start at $50.
 

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$100 would be extremely generous, in my opinion. The imported Columbian m# 2050 vise came out in the 1980's and was advertised as "not designed for professional service".

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You came to the right place for vise counsel, hopefully it will keep you from getting "buyers remorse". Personally, I'm a big fan of the Columbian machinist vise, as my outside vise is a pre-1960 model # 506, which has served me very well for many years.
 

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$100 would be extremely generous, in my opinion. The imported Columbian m# 2050 vise came out in the 1980's and was advertised as "not designed for professional service".

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You came to the right place for vise counsel, hopefully it will keep you from getting "buyers remorse". Personally, I'm a big fan of the Columbian machinist vise, as my outside vise is a pre-1960 model # 506, which has served me very well for many years.
That clarifies a lot. I’d definitely have buyers remorse paying $100 for an imported vise.
 

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"Chrome Vises"... In the late 80's I was into unlimited hydroplane racing , making alot of races around the country. The owner of "Miss Budweiser" (Bernie Little) had chrome plated 8" Wiltons bolted to the front and rear bumpers of the teams support trucks.
My 1100lb. 8" USA Ridgid below is not real old, I'd not do a custom job to old traditional vise.
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Most of the plated vises were jewelry vises and they were Nickel plated. Nickel is the 'color' coat over an initial coat of copper, then a 'flash' coating of chrome is applied. The chrome layer does not corrode or oxidize. Copper turns dark or green.
Nickel looks very close to a warm, slightly yellowish 'chrome'. BUT nickel does turn darker and gray-colored with time. It can be polished again, but shows fingerprints etc from the acids in our skin oils etc.

I suspect the vise is polished iron. Someone was bored and had some nice grinding wheels and polishing tools to play with.

I agree that $50 is about it for an imported vise.. However it it really floats your boat, then buy it! Especially since you got a screaming deal on the enameling oven and materials.
 
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Thanks for the replies boys. To be clear, they have asked for the $100. Did I miss the part where this is an imported vise? I thought Columbians we're made in the USA? Hold up.

Ah, K, just saw the Columbian Vise thread. I'm beat (after work) and ain't gonna read that whole bit right now but does anyone know what year they moved operations to Japan, Taiwan and or China? Is there a way to date these vises?

Miss Budweiser used to come through the Lodge of Four Seasons where I ran the ship store. I've seen the vises you speak of, wrenchguy. I mean I must've (just can't recall is all, dontcha love gettin' old?). They'd put in there when they'd come before the races to get her sorted for the weekend. AB also had a 6500ft Bluewater they'd plow down the lake aboard. That Captain or more likely whomever they were allowing to drive that week, was awful. I digress.

This vise is gorgeous to me, don't care where it was made. I do wanna know how/why it's shiny. Plus their Mother just passed so I don't really wanna haggle with them (although I did for the enameling supplies and oven before I knew). On the other hand, dude retired when he was like 55 so I'ma say he doesn't need the $. Unlike myself whose $ has all gone into this shop I've piecemealed together. So the savings of 50$ would be significant to me. I can't say as I even need another vise, I have several specialized vises beyond my Columbian 504 strewn about the place. Even picked up some kind of strange *** vise that rides on a pipe (not a pipe vise mind you). I'll post a pic a that when I can peel myself outta this chair. Like to pick the brain trust regarding that dude. Just such an anomaly I wanted this Columbian soon as I saw it.

Picking it up tomorrow, will report my findings and final sale price as well as better pics before and after clean up.

Thanks again for the good info. I think I may have contracted the same sorta tooling virus y'all seem to have.
 

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Strange *** vise riding on a pipe?
Sounds like a Versa Vise. (I used to have 3. Sold one, gave one away to my son in law.)
 
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Now I see your picture that you added. Yes, a Versa vise with the regular height jaws.
There should be a base that you can screw down to your workbench.
I’ll take a picture of mine and post it here in a few minutes.
 

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Here is a picture of my complete VersaVise.
I took it apart to show you the part that you are missing. There are 3 cast iron arms with holes to screw down to your workbench,
VersaVise sold a rather rare accessory mount that you mortise in to your bench top and drill a hole for the steel cylinder to drop down out of the way when you don’t need the vise.
You could use your $5 vise by mounting it on a short piece of pipe held to your workbench with a threaded floor flange.
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Thanks for the info and pics. Pipe is in the garage waiting to be cut. Oddly enough I got it from the oven folks. I gave them an offer based on y'alls responses. There's a 110v mig/flux core welder in play too so my offer was for both. Really all I can spend at the moment so 🤞.
 
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GhostintheMachineShop

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Well, alas it was not to be. I thank y'all for the info. Prolly woulda had some remorse paying $100 for it. I hit them a little low for both items expecting a counter and they said they had other places for it to go, so I let it go. Kinda bummed but def OK with not spending the $. Sorry for the anti climactic ending. I pleaded with them to let me know if they definitively found out if it was chromed or polished.
Maybe I'll ask for more pics. 😂
 

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I can’t remember exactly when, but this Craftsman, with the code 391 meaning cast in Japan) sold on eBay for a high price. It is polished, not chromed. See what you can do with patience, time, and various abrasives and power tools?

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GhostintheMachineShop

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Well that thing is ******* gorgeous. I'm well versed in the polishing of aluminum but have not had the digit curling pleasure of polishing iron or steel to such a degree. Not that it's not in my future, just have to get through the mess if **** I've been buying offa CL to get my little hobby shop going.
On a side note, I've got a pretty good source for carbide if anyone is in the market. Not really to order but it's a catch as catch can situ. Mostly inch diameter and smaller with differing flutes. HMU if anyone has the need.20220404_210012.jpg
No I don't use this beast with this anemic machine 😜
 

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I'm not sure why anyone would chrome that vise other than "just because I can."

But not withstanding that, the vise has the fatal vise design flaw of the rear jaw not protruding over the front edge of the mounting surface. That means you will never be able to hold a vertical work piece that hangs below the bench. I know this because that was the first vise I ever purchased oh so many years ago.
 
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