Lets make an all vintage Snap-on tool picture thread!

[Oldtuleguy]

The subject has come up before. No dates on these

 

[d42jeep]

Here are my finds at a local estate sale today.
-Don

 

[snapmom]

47 could be correct, the change from BP to SO started about then. But they are the exact same wrenches as BP, just a name and model number change.

 

[Ricky Joe]

For what it's worth

My uncle has told me that he and my Father bought a set of these in the summer of 1947. With the exception of several special service tools, these were the first Snap~on Logo wrenches and were likely prototypes, no dates and no catalog record. Could that be correct?

That style was made back in the mid-1930s. It continued until at least 1960. It was labeled “Blue Point Supreme “. Snap-On wrenches, other than some specialty wrenches, started being labeled with the Snap-On designation in 1948 on combination wrenches. Other styles continued to be labeled Blue Point with a gradual transition through the 1950s. That may not help with this wrench, but that is a timeline you can go by in general.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

I suspect from around 1950

 

[Mr.Ric]

So maybe the nomenclature they intended to start the Snap~On branding might have been:
O open end
X box end
etc..

The summer '47 purchase date is solid. These O wrenche's are exactly BP Supreme, and the X series are exactly BP Boxockets, also no dates. The '48 OEX set is dated as expected.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

That is my current understanding of them, just never turned up an ad or anything to support it.

 

[Mr.Ric]

These two (2) are identical, the painted one (1) has a tray the other has an intact latch.

 

[d42jeep]

I finished cleaning up this formerly rusty pry bar found at a recent estate sale.
-Don

 

[LesserSon]

I hadn’t seen one of these: 1/2dr with a retaining pin. A-2001. I don’t find a date code anywhere on it.

 

[saukit]

Here are a few SO/BP bits out of the Evaporust: There's a big IM 360 1 1/8 impact, a very corroded XD-1214 DBE, OEX-1G combo, two identical DOE's and a tiny X12022 offset DBE.

 

[Farmer J.]

I hadn’t seen one of these: 1/2dr with a retaining pin. A-2001. I don’t find a date code anywhere on it.

It looks as though the square drive end with the retaining pin has been welded on and then the weld ground down.

 

[3baygarage]

I saw a nice speeder with the locking pin recently, only it had the knob handle. Seller and I didn’t come to an agreement.


Found this adaptor today. An early A2, 3/8 to 1/2 drive.

1930’s I believe. I’ve stared at the date stamp and can’t decipher it.

EDIT: maybe 1935

At first didn’t notice the A2 running the other way above the logo. The detent hole is what drew my attention to it, had to figure out what old brand it was with a hole like that.

 

[Ricky Joe]

I saw a nice speeder with the locking pin recently, only it had the knob handle. Seller and I didn’t come to an agreement.


Found this adaptor today. An early A2, 3/8 to 1/2 drive.

1930’s I believe. I’ve stared at the date stamp and can’t decipher it.

EDIT: maybe 1935

At first didn’t notice the A2 running the other way above the logo. The detent hole is what drew my attention to it, had to figure out what old brand it was with a hole like that.

I agree, ‘35.

 

[LesserSon]

It looks as though the square drive end with the retaining pin has been welded on and then the weld ground down.

I see the small spatter, and the grinder marks. But the pin is original to this model number, and the exposed steel looks very consistant, with no color or grain seam.
Maybe a socket was welded on, then removed.
The solid knob is different from the big hollow one shown in two eBay examples. I wonder if this is inside those “doorknob” types, removed fron this one. It seems very short, and only a small band knurled.

 

[3baygarage]

I agree, ‘35.

Easier to see in the photo than in front of my face.

LS - your handle is different, reminds me of another brand, but I‘d say it didn’t come out of the knob.

 

[Farmer J.]

I see the small spatter, and the grinder marks. But the pin is original to this model number, and the exposed steel looks very consistant, with no color or grain seem.
Maybe a socket was welded on, then removed.
The solid knob is different from the big hollow one shown in two eBay examples. I wonder if this is inside those “doorknob” types, removed fron this one. It seems very short, and only a small band knurled.

A socket welded on there would explain it. Likely someone wanted to fix a socket on there which didn't have a hole in it to suit the lock on pin.

 

[snapmom]

Two A2001 speeders. the wood handle were mostly 40s. The fat metal one were mostly 50s.
On the example shown previous the socket stop collar has been ground off, and the handle replaced.

 

[3baygarage]

Looks like it could’ve come with one of those wood knobs. I was only thinking of the metal ones.

 

[LesserSon]

Yes, I can see the knurled band poking out below the spun metal collar / ferrule / escutcheon in snapmom’s wood-handled examples. As found, mine had residue just on the knurled band. I bet it was adhesive.
I think I see a restoration project.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Found this lady's foot at the flea this morning. Just a tad later (1948) than I would like.

 

[snapmom]

3/8 rats in a 1/4 frame. detent pins. Model KFM70 1966. and KM70 no date code. These are the only ones I have seen. The KM70 is 1/8" longer. has a diff. selector switch but the KFM switch has been replaced.

 

[snapmom]

Looking for some K4B speeders. Shown in 29-36 cats. would have center grip. 1/2" drive. length 27-28". May or may not have a collar, May or may not have model number. may or may not have old type grip. If you have any please post a pic.

 

[Mr.Ric]

KM70

 

[Ricky Joe]

I gave JoCoSawdust a 1929 speeder a while back. He might could take some pictures for you.

 

[pdxfi]

Picked this up few years ago at an auction. I can’t find any info on it. BM 70554 JML

Any ideas?

 

[Ricky Joe]

Looks like a Chrysler emergency brake adjuster, only bigger. Snap-On made tools for the railroad. Maybe something along those lines?

 

[MisterEd]

Not dramatic or unusual, just a nice tool; No. 95 Needlenose, Vacuum Grip.

 

[pdxfi]

Looks like a Chrysler emergency brake adjuster, only bigger. Snap-On made tools for the railroad. Maybe something along those lines?

Someone else on another site suggested a fire hydrant wrench.

I'm seeing similarities to this from Croker Fire. Maybe hung from a fire hose cabinet or near a FDC?

 

[piehammer]

Picked up this round handled 2512 DBE in a box this week. I don't collect Snap-On and wondered if there was still any value to a collector in this condition?

 

[rancherbill]

Picked this up few years ago at an auction. I can’t find any info on it. BM 70554 JML

Any ideas?

Fiddled on Google and my my guess is it's a combo wrench. There are picture of one end and they say its a Valve Persuader.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Sna...rBS0Q_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1016&bih=463&dpr=1.89
For bonus enjoyment scroll down and there's pictures of strange valve persuader / adjustable combos.

The other end of your tool I can only speculate. Seeing one end is for valve service maybe the other end is a valve compressor for a Model ??? engine.

 

[rustyzman]

The valve persuader is for use with larger water/steam valves. The kind with large cast iron wheel handles you see in sprinkler systems (OS&Y valves) or industrial applications. You feed it through a spoke and hook the valve stem with the U shaped piece. You can use leverage off the tool handle or a bit of hammer work to break the valve free. The other end looks like a hook spanner for removing large caps. Like hydrant caps or something similar.

I remember seeing these in older snap on catalogs. Sometimes those big old valves can be a ****** to get moving.

 

[rancherbill]

The valve persuader is for use with larger water/steam valves. The kind with large cast iron wheel handles you see in sprinkler systems (OS&Y valves) or industrial applications. You feed it through a spoke and hook the valve stem with the U shaped piece. You can use leverage off the tool handle or a bit of hammer work to break the valve free. The other end looks like a hook spanner for removing large caps. Like hydrant caps or something similar.

I remember seeing these in older snap on catalogs. Sometimes those big old valves can be a ****** to get moving.

I think the question has been solved for the OP. That tool would give you the leverage you need. I was not familiar with the name OS&Y valve, but, heck I have seen them lots of places.

 

[pdxfi]

Fiddled on Google and my my guess is it's a combo wrench. There are picture of one end and they say its a Valve Persuader.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Sna...rBS0Q_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1016&bih=463&dpr=1.89
For bonus enjoyment scroll down and there's pictures of strange valve persuader / adjustable combos.

The other end of your tool I can only speculate. Seeing one end is for valve service maybe the other end is a valve compressor for a Model ??? engine.

I think that might be as close as we're going to get.

 

[rustyzman]

Was just at Menards today and their Fire Department Connection has a cap that would match that other end perfectly.

Saw tons of OS&Y valves in fire inspections on sprinklered buildings. Nice because they are in indicating valve, so you know whether it is open or closed with a quick glance. Would be a terrible valve outside in bad weather though.

That tool would probably work on a regular stem valve a whole lot better than on an OS&Y. That Yoke would quickly get in the way.

 

[Old Radar]

I picked up this Blue-Point 15" plain steel adjustable at an estate sale this week. It's in great shape and operates very smoothly. AA makes a good argument that it was made for Snap-on by Diamond Calk Horseshoe Co., noting that SO "...sometime in the 1940s decided to offer adjustable wrenches as part of their Blue-Point line." AA fails to take note of or discuss the apparent date code forged in the Snap-on side of the wrench next to the hanging hole. Mine has a "5" but it looks nothing like any of the styles SO used for their codes.

Is it possible that Diamond tried to comply or emulate SO's codes for them but used whatever font they had available? The plain steel finish has me guessing 1945. (I know SO used a G for items they manufactured that year)

Can any of the experts shed any light on the date code--if it is one?

 

[snapmom]

It may not be a date code, I cannot recall the 45 code being anything other that G . You will need a Diamond collector to give you an approximate age.
The Blue Point name in the description shows up in the 42 cat.

 

[bmwrd0]

A couple small finds, from digging out an old toolbox:

An F-21, not for warranty and a Blue Points Chicago driver. I have gotten into the habit of cleaning the ferrule of any wood drivers I pickup on the off chance I find something like this

 

[Marsim]

Just picked these up at a flea market for $8 total. Hard to find vintage cheap tools around here.

 

[d42jeep]

Just picked these up at a flea market for $8 total. Hard to find vintage cheap tools around here.

Nice! The 9/32” drive set is amazingly complete and quite valuable!
-Don