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yeldogt

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A single switched outlet in a room with no overhead lights is worse... way worse.
Code obviously .... have to get into a room if it is dark in a safe manner.

My living rooms are used --- filtered lighting from lamps when nothing else is planned for.
 

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Code obviously .... have to get into a room if it is dark in a safe manner.

My living rooms are used --- filtered lighting from lamps when nothing else is planned for.

That assumes you have a lamp and you have it plugged in. Nothing worse than a 400sqft room with a 60w lamp in the corner.

That setup (no overhead lighting) is the most irritating and worst setup I have experienced. I want a room to have a switch that lights it up, the whole room. I want to be able to do it if it's devoid of furniture or packed full like a hoarder. It doesn't need to be workshop level bright, but the entire room should be lit.
 
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Mzungu

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I've done a few of these drilling and fishing installations with recessed cans. There's a bit of luck involved for sure. I always inform the client of the potential to hit electrical wiring, especially if they are solid floor joists versus TJI's. TJI's you just aim for the middle of the joist as most electricians wont staple a cable there. If I suspect there that there will be water lines in my path I cut small patchable inspection holes on each side of the joist if the client is willing.
Drilling through the joists is why I posted about recommendations on 1/4 bit extensions that's also part of why I was thinking more than 4 lights...if I add some in the middle, I get another access point instead of having to drill across 8' of joists.
For a bit I use these. They work like a charm. Great for fishing in new outlets on a main floor to basement as well.

 
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mike93lx

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I've done a few of these drilling and fishing installations with recessed cans. There's a bit of luck involved for sure. I always inform the client of the potential to hit electrical wiring, especially if they are solid floor joists versus TJI's. TJI's you just aim for the middle of the joist as most electricians wont staple a cable there. If I suspect there that there will be water lines in my path I cut small patchable inspection holes on each side of the joist if the client is willing.

For a bit I use these. They work like a charm. Great for fishing in new outlets on a main floor to basement as well.

Yeah, that's the one I have. I find it will tear the hell out of anything it grabs and if it gets caught on a nail, it really winds up the shaft. I use it when I have to, but can't for this either way due to the proximity to the walls
 

yeldogt

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That assumes you have a lamp and you have it plugged in. Nothing worse than a 400sqft room with a 60w lamp in the corner.

That setup (no overhead lighting) is the most irritating and worst setup I have experienced. I want a room to have a switch that lights it up, the whole room. I want to be able to do it if it's devoid of furniture or packed full like a hoarder. It doesn't need to be workshop level bright, but the entire room should be lit.

Recessed lighting is great IMO if used properly .... IMO when used as general lighting in a pattern it can be very harsh. That is especially true when the light source is visible at ceiling level. That's the great thing about the small aperture available today .... you can hide it like the older MR16's and get more output. i still like the MR16 design with the 3000k output ... it's great lighting.

lightolier still makes the high quality cans with the baffles that set the bulb back from the ceiling ----- I use recessed lighting ... although in a living room not so much. Recessed work when nothing else will ...
 

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You can get creative with wall washer lights can /pot lights all depends on what you want to focus on or Highlight in the room.

you’ll get great light w/ a taller ceiling, although dimmed for mood you might need more fixtures

i used these 4 inch in my kitchen and hallway etc, they come in a 2700 and a 3500 color
super easy and just pop in I really like the look.
screw connectors are on the back, of the fixture

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mike93lx

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Finally got to it yesterday. Installed five 6" halo gimbal and a center box. The halos are on a single point dimmer and the center fixture is on 3 way switches.
I used a fan box and ran a 14/3 to the center so a fan could go in at some point, although we are just doing a hanging fixture. I got lucky with a joist just 1" off centerline, so I moved it over to that and used a straddle box.

Drilling across all the joists sucked. I used six 12" extensions, a 6" extension, a 6" spade bit and a 16" spade bit. One of the Bosch extensions got stuck and wouldn't release, so I had to abandon two 12" extensions on the ceiling. C'est la vie. The bits wandered enough that I almost drilled through the ceiling at the last joist. No drywall work, so it was a win

These are the cans I used

 

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