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Yes this. I need to figure something out for the table saw. Only two wheels swivel so it's hard to jam in the counter where I like to keep it.
 
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Thanks for the info! I did some searching and think I came up with a solution for the jointer that's still economical.

Now to find time to get it together!
 
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So making a bit of progress on the cabinet cleaning/lube/paint as required and reassy:

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But have spent 1.5 of the last 2 days dealing with docs appts and sick kids so we have the following prescription for the weekend:

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Amazingly enough they have separate ailments(ear infection and strep throat) but are treated with same medicine....the pharmacist was confused at first as she recognized me lol
 

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So making a bit of progress on the cabinet cleaning/lube/paint as required and reassy:

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But have spent 1.5 of the last 2 days dealing with docs appts and sick kids so we have the following prescription for the weekend:

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Amazingly enough they have separate ailments(ear infection and strep throat) but are treated with same medicine....the pharmacist was confused at first as she recognized me lol
perfect pairing
 
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Few minor things:

Got the last of the drawers, cleaned, lubed and installed then loaded up so the **** isn't all over the floor. Need some significant organization and drawer labels are on the way...baby steps

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While staring at the space realized the space between it and the softener as shown in purple would make an ok space for another workbench and could hold the 3d printer. lts not a great workspace as the water supply and meter are there but for just holding the printer should be fine. Trip to FB Marketplace found a seller of some cube system desktops for $10 each so one of those and some wall braces will likely become the new home of the printer. Attempting to have space for printer number 2...height will be a concern if I get what I think I want!

Playing with dovetail sizing for multi piece prints

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Organized most of the sprinkler fittings into a couple orange box organizers. Life was simpler before the sprinkler maintenance game found me

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And lastly got a few things done in the garage. Rotated the CNC 90 degrees to accommodate feed thru of materials so I can hopefully get some more permanent wiring done, checked valve adjustment on the mower and tore a gasket...my fault for not having them on hand...so need to order those before I check the other cylinder...first one was good though. got a few random things cleaned up and put away...need to find what we are doing over the winter with the kiddie pool...I hope disposing of it permanently but that will only be the case if I beg forgiveness instead of asking permission...not that out of character though...

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More yard cardio...this time pushing the spreader and a yard roller around:

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Got the bulk of it done and a week of cool temps hopefully is good for little grass seeds. Still need to spray for weeds and bugs

Oven has been acting up and never getting to temp and after never getting to 425 the other day I dug in a bit

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And as both good and bad news...control board failed its built in self test...great. 500 ish bucks for a new one...don't think we are gonna do that on a 15 yr old unit. The challenge is what to do in replacement....

We really liked the double oven unit we put in at our last house, however we don't have gas rough in at this stove(and getting it there would involve substantial drywall ceiling repair to the finished basement) and I want either gas or induction for the next cooktop. Double oven with induction cooktop has few choices and they're all spendy but worse is the quartz countertop has to be cut...and it'll have to come out to cut...likely causing backsplash issues....it spirals quickly. So when it's all said and done it likely makes sense to just replace like with like

In good news...my LED lights are still working well and had a bit of fun with the K-State vs Oklahoma game

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Can you run CSST without cutting too much of your ceiling? I did 2 new lines for the basement stove and new fireplace and only needed 2 small holes in the finished ceiling to make it happen.
 

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My wife buys those kiddie pools when they go one sale for like 3/4 bucks and I have him stacked in the barn for summers. So whenever she brings a few home I always gotta ask......ok how many ducks or chickens are also back there 🤣

We use them for the animals. They are cheap and disposable. We fill them with a couple inches of water and the chickens just stand in them. The ducks have one that gets filled pretty full and they splash around in it.

It's hard to find metal troughs that are that low sided. And then I have to constantly clean them. These I just quick power wash out and good as new. They will last about 8-10+ months being outside 24/7. As long as we keep a little water in them, you can't let them sit dry.
 
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Some actual garage stuff

Couple gallons of this along with a dash of Dawn and Chlorox

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Along with a new much smaller aquarium pump and laser tube has water flowing again!

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And it's working...well it's at least moving and burning

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Needs a solid cleaning, lube, mirror cleaning and alignment then to see about learning how to use it. I never got much time on it in Chicago before I was given a new job 3 months before Covid hit and we ended up moving....so very much a noob!

The more time I can spend on this maybe will lessen the siren song of my next 3d printer that the exact configuration I want popped up for sale on marketplace...I keep repeating "too many projects....too many projects"...not sure if its working or not!
 
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So tearing into the cleaning after kids got to bed:


The laser beam shoots out this air assist nozzle, then the air blows **** out of the way...or that's the plan. The lens that does the focus of the beam is in this assy though I've never cleaned it...so time to dig in

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Not sure what the focal length on this machine is as I don't know if it's the original lens or not so trimmed the end off a qtip and marked how far it went in before hitting the lens surface:

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That's more data on it then I had! This should give me a better starting point to determining the right bed height adjustment(manually adjusted) based on material thickness. Optimal is for the focal length to be in the middle of the material thickness



Cleaning seems straight forward...cleaned the (3) mirrors and the lens with some help of some isopropyl alcohol

Before with visible debris
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And after...thanks to the wife for having recently been to the eye doc and left a cleaning cloth laying around I could "borrow"

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Got that back together and switched gears a bit to getting it on the network so I could easily push programs to it so went and found the network bag of tools as I already had a cable run to this area but hadn't terminated it yet

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And success...well for that run...still need to terminate it back to the network rack but that'll be tomorrow

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In other news...I learned they now make shoes with rechargeable batteries that use USB cords to charge...great....another flipping cable to lose as I believe it's 2 generations old.

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Good news it was a consignment sale buy so didn't ask but should've been less than 5 or 7 bucks...but ugh
 

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And as both good and bad news...control board failed its built in self test...great. 500 ish bucks for a new one...don't think we are gonna do that on a 15 yr old unit. The challenge is what to do in replacement....
I see capacitors in that picture. Heat and age is their enemy. You would be astonished how often just replacing the electrolytic capacitors fixes things.
 

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And as both good and bad news...control board failed its built in self test...great. 500 ish bucks for a new one...don't think we are gonna do that on a 15 yr old unit. The challenge is what to do in replacement....

15 yrs is not a bad run. It's even worse these days — at least that's what they told me when we got a new oven and fridge a few years ago. Basically the most likely thing to fail is the control board / computer guts, and to not expect more than 10 yrs out of modern appliances. It feels like very few commercial products are designed to last anymore.

My replacements happened to be Samsung, and have WiFi radios that allegedly should connect to SmartThings. I couldn't ever get either paired successfully. :rolleyes:

I want either gas or induction for the next cooktop.

Induction cooktops are neat and much sleeker looking, but gas is where it's at for me. Consistent heat and so easy to visually see if it's on / how much heat you have going.
 
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Can you run CSST without cutting too much of your ceiling? I did 2 new lines for the basement stove and new fireplace and only needed 2 small holes in the finished ceiling to make it happen.

I spent some time contemplating this last night(translation: looking at a ceiling with a beer in hand) and it would take a fair amount of holes. They thought forward and have extra ports on the gas manifold, which isn't terribly far away...however the path includes transitioning 2 different duct runs and I have to cross the floor joists for half the run before I turn and could run parallel to them. I'm gonna continue to look at this as I really liked our gas stove....but I hate doing drywall repair overhead and there'd be a number of patches

I see capacitors in that picture. Heat and age is their enemy. You would be astonished how often just replacing the electrolytic capacitors fixes things.

Hum....I've done that repair before on other boards with obvious cap failures but honestly hadn't thought about doing that here....intriguing. Do you happen to have a common source where you've ordered the cap's from?

15 yrs is not a bad run. It's even worse these days — at least that's what they told me when we got a new oven and fridge a few years ago. Basically the most likely thing to fail is the control board / computer guts, and to not expect more than 10 yrs out of modern appliances. It feels like very few commercial products are designed to last anymore.

My replacements happened to be Samsung, and have WiFi radios that allegedly should connect to SmartThings. I couldn't ever get either paired successfully. :rolleyes:

Yeah...I'm struggling with the same. The stove works(well kinda) and if i replace the board it's just the touchscreen and heating elements(well and convection fan) left so not much there...so do I toss the money at it and avoid spending 2k(or likely more) on something newer with even more electronics to break and be hard to repair...
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Induction cooktops are neat and much sleeker looking, but gas is where it's at for me. Consistent heat and so easy to visually see if it's on / how much heat you have going.

Yeah, we had gas in Chicago for probably 4 years and it was the first time I'd ever used it...always had electric before that but I grew to love it. Wife's office in Chicago was in the Merchandise Mart and she spent a fair amount of time at the cooking showrooms and they were always showing off the latest induction gear they had(GE/Monogram, Subzero, Wolf just depending here she was that day) so I got to see some of it and it was pretty cool and seems like a better(cooler/newer?) option than standard electric cooktop...however our current cooktop works just fine....so can you say scope creep

A ramp test is the way to find the focal length of the lens. Easy and the best way to do it in my experience.

Funny you should mention that.....

Driving back from daycare I had a realization that I thought I setup the machine profile wrong in the software....so over lunch hour I fixed that(perk of working remote...lots of con's too though) and what do you know, when you tell it the correct control package it works better :)

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Using the 32 or so mm distance from end of nozzle to lens, I got the ramp test setup to put the expected 51mm(give or take a bit) in the center of the board and then had the very precise "match box" unit of height under the high end

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Feed speed and power % engraved above the line confirms that it appears that focal length is probably in that 52mm +/- 2mm based on where the line is finest, so I'll try to setup a test a bit more accurately and fine tune that but at least I'm better educated about what I've got and can push programs to it from the computer.

New air regulator and dryer supposed to be here today or tomorrow as it just had a cheap aquarium air pump that was noisy and offered no pressure control. Also looking at options for exhausting, it's so close to the garage door to begin I may just buy or design/print a garage door exhaust "port" to cut into the bottom panel as I probably won't be using enough "conditioned" air to matter but if so will have to look harder at an air scrubber
 

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Hum....I've done that repair before on other boards with obvious cap failures but honestly hadn't thought about doing that here....intriguing. Do you happen to have a common source where you've ordered the cap's from?
Yeah, I just grab the subway to Akihabara :p

But for you folks in North America, if you don't want to set up an account with RS-Electronics, Mouser or Digi-key some boutique place like Sparkfun will have what you need. The caps values will be clearly marked, buy 105℃ versions if possible, you can also substitute higher voltage ratings if you can't find an exact match, so if it is a 16v rated cap using a 30v part is totally fine. Replace them one at a time so you don't lose track of what you are doing, and remember that electrolytic capacitors are polarized (have a positive and a negative terminal) so make sure that you put them in the right orientation.

That might sound like a lot, but it really isn't, and the cost of the electrolytic caps should be cheap enough that rather than buy any specialized equipment to test them, just replace them all. There really is a good chance that it will come back to life, I have thousands of dollars worth of equipment I have salvaged with just cap replacements.
 
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Yeah, I just grab the subway to Akihabara :p

I realized after I posted for the benefit of others I should probably add a disclaimer asking where in the "states" would you look ;) Appreciate you remembering what country we're sourcing from :)

But for you folks in North America, if you don't want to set up an account with RS-Electronics, Mouser or Digi-key some boutique place like Sparkfun will have what you need. The caps values will be clearly marked, buy 105℃ versions if possible, you can also substitute higher voltage ratings if you can't find an exact match, so if it is a 16v rated cap using a 30v part is totally fine. Replace them one at a time so you don't lose track of what you are doing, and remember that electrolytic capacitors are polarized (have a positive and a negative terminal) so make sure that you put them in the right orientation.

That might sound like a lot, but it really isn't, and the cost of the electrolytic caps should be cheap enough that rather than buy any specialized equipment to test them, just replace them all. There really is a good chance that it will come back to life, I have thousands of dollars worth of equipment I have salvaged with just cap replacements.

Much thanks sir for the guidance....agree it's not incredibly hard, I think most I've done is replacing 3 or 4 on a board for a UV sterilizer for a well system I had....same process, just more steps...thanks again!


Nothing super fun on the laser today. Spent the last hour working on a model for a garage door "exhaust port" for the laser exhaust. There are some commercial ones I could buy but I've got the 3d printer and will be wanting some of these for the woodworking stuff and good practice project in CAD for me to try and make dynamic/parametric models....haven't measured the garage door thickness yet so few tweaks still to make


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Interior hose will attach with magnets. I need it to disconnect "safely" if it's hooked to the door and someone hits the garage door opener button to raise the door so the goal here is that the magnets will just "shear" off and it'll disconnect and all is good vs a conventional hose that slips over a fitting. Could I get that same thing to work here...probably but then it would be uglier and stick more "proud" to the interior and just be no fun ;)
 
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I got a 3D printer for christmas last year, I have been holding out on it until I finished the basement, I'm just about done so it wont be long. I did 2D cad drawing back when I worked, , it will be a challenge to get it back!

Excited to see you join the cult!

Did go and do a thing today and stuff I probably don't need followed me home cause it was too cheap

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28.5 x 59" x 1.25" plywood cubicle system desktops. 32 of them I believe, all new, never installed, few chips on the laminate at edges from handling here or there but otherwise in great shape.

Will probably sell some to a couple of friends and neighbors, use a couple as tables then rest likely become plywood for garage projects. Bought them from an office supply company as it was extras from a new install they're finishing and layouts got changed after it was ordered so ended up with more extras then needed. $250 for all of it so I'll have a lot of very heavy and overweight garage stuff
 
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You ****!

Thanks sir! After moving them 2x so far I'm getting sweat equity in them...glad it's not hot!

In signs of true adulthood....an exciting Friday night here involved eating out with both kids for the first time in a long time then after getting them put to bed moving furniture and pulling out the carpet cleaner as we prepare to dedicate a space to the kids as a play area instead of all the toys strewn about the living room. now they'll be strewn about an area 2x as large....progress right?

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I should stay off certain parts of the internet.....another too cheap to pass followed home...

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Powermatic 1150 drill press. A true variable speed with a reeves drive or similar like this has been on my want list for a long time. Changing belts to change speeds *****...well no excuses with one of these as it takes longer to change the bit than the speed.

Its not all roses though

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Eagle eyes will see that big ole 3 in the phase box on the name plate so this will be getting one of the small single horse 120v or 240v single phase in, 220/240 3 phase out vfd's. Came out of a local high school that was upgrading, missing some hardware and bolts but should be a very nice upgrade to my old Walker Turner. $200 and a 20 minute drive....so if I hate it should be easy to more than cover my costs after its running on 120v

Question: Since it's getting a vfd, is running a remote speed adjustment knob and reverse switch to the front of the machine worth it? Variable speed is already there...but with the vfd switching direction and slowing down is easy...so why not?
 
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Very cool tool.
It's like a semi with a twin stick ******, way more speed than you will ever need,
You'll probably set the vfd and run it up and down with the vari speed handle on the machine. But that's just me. Make it cool!
 
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Very cool tool.
It's like a semi with a twin stick ******, way more speed than you will ever need,
You'll probably set the vfd and run it up and down with the vari speed handle on the machine. But that's just me. Make it cool!

Twin sticks are cool! Had a straight truck on the farm that had one, the old Mack dump truck has one as well....scary fast in reverse lol

I do agree, will likely use the mechanical speed adjustment as default and only adjust VFD speed when necessary.

Vfd got bought and the control panel for it can be remote mounted so it will mounted on the front under the existing buttons in a 3d printed housing. I'd like to put an LED spotlight in the bottom of that housing and illuminate the workpiece but have to check angles and if that will work or not

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Great deal on the 1150. Those are going for $750-1100 here.

Similar prices here for the 1150 or 1200, the Clausing 2272 and similar seems to bring a bit more. If I could find one with the power downfeed in the right condition I could see an upgrade, otherwise this should suit me for a long time.
 

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I have the same Powermatic drill press, just the older grey generation. I use a 120v 1HP VFD as well. I only use it as a phase converter. Works well. Highly recommended. That's a lifetime machine!
 
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I have the same Powermatic drill press, just the older grey generation. I use a 120v 1HP VFD as well. I only use it as a phase converter. Works well. Highly recommended. That's a lifetime machine!

Lifetime machine is my hope! This paint scheme is my least favorite color but I'm not going to repaint so I'll learn to live with it. VFD supposed to arrive on Tuesday so maybe next weekend have it spinning. Have to decide how I want to do the on/off, I've used some that had a movable box with a big magnet on it so you could position it where it was convenient for the job but just rewiring and using current pushbuttons would be easiest. Short term I can use the buttons on the remote VFD panel so I have options and can use it a bit before I commit
 
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Little laser progress today:

Working to align mirrors with a little bit of painters tape. Goal is for the laser to be in the middle of the hole to hit the center of that mirror, so covering the window up with some tape or thermal paper allows you to see the alignment. Shoot a pulse, then adjust the appropriate adjustment screw on the prior mirror to move the beam...just like sighting in a rifle...or in this case a laser gun! In this case it started hitting way to high, moved it down a bit, then overshot the next move and went too far(bottom hole) and then got it back up and moved over on the (4th) hit for this tape before I put a new piece on. All in all wasn't too bad and it's pretty close after about 20 or 25 minutes.

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Also finally got the power meter on the laser tube wired up, I got the hole cut several months ago(I think at least 6) and then ran out of time or motivation or something shiny crossed in front and distracted me....regardless this will be a big help in dialing in settings for materials as in the software you set % Power(20%, 40% etc) while actual power draw is more important for consistency and managing the lifespan of the laser tube.

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Laser progress slow but gaining a lot of experience...aka not always forward progress but smarter on it!

Did make progress on the first project with the desktop plywood purchase of a relocated printer station

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Still need to clean up a couple things, get the old laptop and 2nd screen hooked up and ethernet run(network cabinet is about 8 ft away so that's easy) then I can start mounting tools and accys on the back.

Darn shame there is room for a 2nd one there.....no not foreshadowing....at least not for the near future ;)
 
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Little Saturday morning progress

Vfd wired in on drill press to ensure it works....now to determine the easiest way to bypass the current motor starter hardware as I'd like to keep it physically attached to prevent it from being misplaced


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Also got a mirror assy apart on the laser and determined the mirror diameter (25mm) so I could get a new set of mirrors ordered...should be here tomorrow


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Little more garage time snuck in during the magic nap time overlap of the 2 kids, confirmed the drill press was wired for low voltage 220/240 volt and got her spinning


The VFD is working fine, just the joys of frames per second and screens not playing well. Super happy with how balanced and quiet it is, need to lube the quill, spindle etc and then start working on the permanent enclosure for the VFD! Also going to put a digital RPM readout on it and need to determine where the best place to mount that sensor will be before I put her top back on
 
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The drill press is working out well, nice job.

Thanks! Saw more abuse than use with a life in school shops but really happy with it, got the new control box mounted this evening but didn't have the right size of stranded wire so next steps will have to wait a day or two

Amazon was good to me:

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Inside was... well potentially "confusing" packaging

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Whew... they are new mirrors

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Got them installed tonight, don't have them aligned yet... but they're at least all in

The fact I ordered this rather obscure item Saturday morning and it arrived late Sunday afternoon for 35 bucks and "free" shipping is still surprising but hey I'll take it
 
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Slow progress last couple days...silly life getting in way

Did get to upgrading 2 older laptops not in primary usage any more with solid state drives to speed them up. Definitely a worthwhile improvement that is pretty easy to do when using software to clone the existing drive. I used Macrum reflect which is free for personal usage.


Machine number 2 should finish in an hour or so...shown in the true messy current state of the printing bench. Once done it will likely become my cnc router dedicated machine.
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Introduced my daughter to the new drone I bought off my brother after he upgraded. DJI Mini SE...thats us playing with it in on the sidewalk this morning. Was a bit breezy to get too carried away


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But did try a sunrise shot...wind was blowing it off level while trying to hover

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Daughter asked of we could get that "flying thing" out again...sure...

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A project I have in mind with it is I'd like to 3d print my house/yard area based on data created from drone pictures taken from a variety of different angles, elevations etc. A fair number of software solutions exist for the pro's to make it supposedly easy to do but are a little spendy but with a bit more time and learning curve it can be done with free software packages. An overcast to partly sunny day without a ton of wind would be awesome...haven't found one in awhile though to do the first attempt at taking pics.
 
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