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My ultimate bench vise - a long journey

CallumRD1

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In my shop, I’ve found that my most used tool is my bench vise. I’d long wanted a larger, more precise vise that I could use for everything from holding machined parts right out of the mill for tertiary operations to pressing components together to holding parts for general fabrication. Because I tend to do so much grinding (largely with a 2x72 belt grinder on the same bench as my vise) I’ve long appreciated the sealed construction commonly seen on Wilton bullet vises. I spent a while looking for one that would suit my desires but between the prices in my area and the features of the vise that I wished were done differently, I decided to turn this into a rather ambitious project: building my ultimate bench vise from scratch.

This started as a rather simple list of requirements:
  • 5” jaws with the same screw pattern as my current vise so I could share soft/hard jaws between my vises
  • 10”+ maximum capacity for holding large parts
  • Sealed slide/screw assembly to keep grit out and grease in
  • Thrust bearing in the dynamic jaw for more efficient transfer of applied torque to clamping pressure
  • Fine pitch (8 tpi) ACME lead screw for high clamping pressure
  • Removable handle with hex on lead screw for operating vise with a drill
  • Swivel base with dowel pins locking the vise at 45˚ increments so it can’t swivel unintentionally under high loads
  • Hardened and removable (for resurfacing) anvil
I spent about a year tinkering with the design in CAD before deciding to commit to trying to make it. Over that time I came up with a number of fairly unique designs to help achieve my goals with the equipment I had access to.

The heart of the design is a fairly simple three-tube constriction, similar (but not identical) to how a Wilton vise is constructed. The outer body tube is 3.5” diameter, 1/2” wall thickness DOM (drawn over mandrill) seamless 1018 steel tubing. The dynamic slide tube is 2.5” diameter, 3/8” wall thickness DOM 1018, and the nut tube is 1-3/4” diameter, 1/4” wall thickness DOM 1018. All had to be turned down slightly to get the appropriate clearance so they telescope properly with minimal but sufficient clearance. Where this design differs substantially from the Wilton design is that I didn’t want an external key/keyway as I wanted an uninterrupted slide tube and I wanted to keep grit out of the keyway. The way I did this was to inset a key into the slide tube that instead of engaging externally on the body tube, rather engaged internally on the nut tube. This means the key and keyway are enclosed inside the sealed part of the vise like the lead screw and nut. This also allowed me to turn a recess in the body tube for a hydraulic double lip seal to keep grit out and grease in.

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One of the more unique (and I’m sure highly controversial) decisions I made was to secure the static jaw tower to the cylindrical body tube with screws rather than welding it. There were a number of reasons for this, but a big one was that I wanted to avoid the inevitable distortion that would come from welding onto my precision-turned body tube. I milled longitudinal steps into the body tube that were an interference fit to the jaw tower and anvil support block so the tower was keyed into the body tube. This prevented any rotation of the tower under load and allowed for the clamping forces to be translated directly into the body tube. All the screws had to do was keep the jaw tower pulled down to the body tube. I used ten 5/16-18 high strength socket cap screws for this which my quick-and-dirty calculations say should be comfortably overkill for any loads this vise should see.

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I used the same stepped construction technique to inset the vise body into the base, reducing the stack height and ensuring that any rotational forces being applied to the vise were being carried by the stepped interface rather than just screws.

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The dynamic jaw tower was milled from a single piece of 4140 and shrink-fit onto the slide. I also pressed 8 dowel pins through the dynamic jaw tower into the slide, irrevocably locking them together. These pins were left slightly proud of the surface and ground flush so after paint they’re completely undetectable.

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The swivel base is fairly normal with two key features that make an enormous difference in use. First, the vise swivels on a 1” pin with only a couple thou of clearance. This tight tolerance combined with the finely machined (and greased) mating surfaces means that it swivels like it’s on a bearing, very smooth with minimal effort. To counteract the perineal complaint of swivel bases slipping under large loads I decided to drill and ream a pair of 3/8” dowel pin holes in the vise base and put corresponding holes in the swivel base, clocked every 45˚. This allows me to set the vise to any of the eight 45˚ increments and insert the T-handle pins thereby locking the vise to the base so it cannot swivel under any load short of shearing a pair of 3/8” hardened dowel pins! There are of course a pair of normal locking levers to clamp the vise to the base but with the dowel pins inserted these levers only need to prevent lifting of the vise off the base, not prevent rotation of the vise.

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As soon as I got the vise painted I put it into service and I couldn’t be happier with it. One of the real joys of designing and making something yourself is that you own the decisions. I chose to implement the features most important to me and appreciate them each time I use the vise. It’s not perfect in any sense of the word, but each mistake, oversight, and blemish is of my hand or a product of my decisions. I fully expect to be using this vise long into the future and I don’t wish for any other.

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This was a massive project that took place over about a year, so I just included some highlights of the build in my narrative above. I’m more than happy to delve into the details of any part of the build that you may be interested in.

I don’t expect anyone else to think this was a good idea and worth the time, effort, and money I put into it, but I hope that my work serves to inspire others to tackle a project that they’re passionate about.

Please feel free to ask any questions that you may have; I’ll try to answer them all as best I can.
 

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paulsomlo

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Bugatti has nothing on you!

The hex where the handle attaches - are those ball detents? I'm assuming you used the CNC mill to make the mating hex on the handle?

Nice job, neighbor.
 
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CallumRD1

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Bugatti has nothing on you!

The hex where the handle attaches - are those ball detents? I'm assuming you used the CNC mill to make the mating hex on the handle?

Nice job, neighbor.
Yeah, that's a ball detent to help retain the handle. And yes, I used a CNC mill to machine the mating hex. I believe I did it with a 3/16" end mill, drilling out the corners prior to milling to relieve the areas the end mill wouldn't be able to cut.
 

Woody1320

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Holy hot diggity damn that is a beautiful thing. Man, I'd love to use that.

Props to you for having a vision and making it a reality with the skills you have. Really impressive work I'm sure many of us on here wish we could do.
Agreed. I always get a little jealous seeing posts like this, but in the best way possible. I respect the time and dedication you put into this. I also love watching ideas like this come together. That vice is bad to the bone. Great job.
 
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CallumRD1

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Good Job.(y)(y)

Maybe I missed it in the posting but how much does the vise weigh, and did you have to harden the jaws in any way or just leave them alone?
I don't remember exactly but it was somewhere between 70 and 80 pounds. One of my design criteria was that I wanted to be able to pick it up and move it by myself!

The jaw towers were made from annealed 4140 that I chose not to harden because I didn't see much point in doing so and I didn't want to deal with the inevitable distortion and remachining that would result from it. (Not to mention the risk of cracking when quenching 4140.) I did make a pair of hardened 4340 jaws that I can put on in place of the copper jaws I typically use if ever I need them.
 
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I felt like that before I used it for the first time. That was about six months ago and it's been used heavily ever since! I'm a firm believer that nice things should be used and appreciated for what they are rather than sit untouched.





I hope when I die they open up my gun safe and say; Hey these guns are all worn out.
 

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Awesome, a lot of what I wanted to go for in my design! Love the replaceable anvil. There's not much I'd change haha

Are there perhaps any photos of how the slide is keyed?

Is the swivel mechanism used often? In the design I had in mind, with the support under the dynamic jaw, it kind of requires a really tall design unless I mount it on top and on the edge of the table like old German vises.9df997d5437d8b0b1aa8df3e8fd3.jpg
 

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Besides echoing everything that others have said about how great this vise is, I'm curious about the paint. I believe the color and the even thickness of the paint really compliments and completes the package. What can you tell us about what you used.
 
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CallumRD1

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Awesome, a lot of what I wanted to go for in my design! Love the replaceable anvil. There's not much I'd change haha

Are there perhaps any photos of how the slide is keyed?

Is the swivel mechanism used often? In the design I had in mind, with the support under the dynamic jaw, it kind of requires a really tall design unless I mount it on top and on the edge of the table like old German vises.9df997d5437d8b0b1aa8df3e8fd3.jpg
Unfortunately I don't have any photos of the internals. I have no idea why I never took any, but I'm not taking the vise apart any time soon so some CAD renderings will have to suffice.
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In the above drawing, the tube on the right is the nut tube. The lead screw nut was welded and pinned into the end of it and you can see the bolt hole pattern where it got screwed to the back of the main body tube. I milled a keyway slot into the nut tube that would match the key you can see screwed into the end of the slide tube.
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Now that I've added back the rest of the components, it becomes clear how this makes the keyway completely internal and sealed from external grit and grime. Below I've shown the key insert I made. It just drops into the slide tube from above and gets screwed in with a couple 10-32 machine screws.
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I use my swivel base all the time, but I think it really comes down to how you plan to use the tool. I'm frequently repositioning the vise so I can get easier access to something I'm trying to work on so a swivel base was an absolute requirement for me. Knowing this, I engineered my base to allow for quick and easy swiveling without sacrificing the ability to rigidly lock it in position. Others may have the opposite opinion and choose a fixed vise instead.
 
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CallumRD1

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Besides echoing everything that others have said about how great this vise is, I'm curious about the paint. I believe the color and the even thickness of the paint really compliments and completes the package. What can you tell us about what you used.
Thank you. I consider my painting skills mediocre at best, so I'm glad it came across reasonably well! I just used a can of spray primer designed for clean bare metal and a can of Rustoleum Hammered Black spray paint. I really like the depth and texture that the hammered paint gives.

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CallumRD1

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Just so nice. Where can I buy one? ;)

A question only, certainly not a criticism. Do you find yourself cleaning the static jaw's top a lot?
I haven't found that. The vise sits near my drill press so it often gets chips on it, but they just wipe off. This vise gets used constantly, so it's always somewhat dirty; I don't clean it very often.
 

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Art meets function. Very impressive!

Need, idea, thought, design, creation, refinement, completion, use

Excellent job!
Griff
 
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