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How thick metal can a dremel tool cutting wheel cut?

mikey03

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If it matters I got a m12 fuel dremel. Wondering the max thickness of metal I can cut through with it. I tried on some shelf brackets and I got a little through it but seemed like it exceeded the tool limits so I stopped.
 
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Depends on how often you plan on cutting metal. 1-2 times a year, I’d probably suffer through with the dremel. 1-2 times a month, M18 4-1/2” angle grinder with a good quality cut off wheel. More frequent and thicker material, I’d go corded,
 

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It's really a question of "How much patience do you have?". :dunno:

If you're considering a new M12 tool, I'd be looking at the Hackzall:

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Or the Band Saw:

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Pricey for my needs, but I really want the band saw! :love:
 
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Honestly I got an angle grinder and a m12 cut off tool and a m12 right angle die grinder and a hacksawl but they don’t seem too precise. I’m thinking sometimes I need to cut something small metal and need it more exact to fit on something. It would seem like the m12 could be more precise and easy to control.
 

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I tried using my Dremel on shock eyelets and it didn't do much of anything. The little cutoff disk snapped before it made much more than a little nick in the metal.🤷
 

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Honestly I got an angle grinder and a m12 cut off tool and a m12 right angle die grinder and a hacksawl but they don’t seem too precise.
-"Precise" is a relative term but your desire for accuracy from a hand held device are likely too high. You'd have to post your expectations of tolerance to comment on.
I’m thinking sometimes I need to cut something small metal and need it more exact to fit on something.
-"Exact fit" hints at what you want but numbers and application would get better replies/suggestions
It would seem like the m12 could be more precise and easy to control.
-Using only hand control of the device does NOT assure better results. Technique and fixturing make all the difference.
 

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I tried using my Dremel on shock eyelets and it didn't do much of anything. The little cutoff disk snapped before it made much more than a little nick in the metal.🤷
-When using an abrasive disk your technique makes a huge difference in the outcome. You can't just plow into the material and expect it to stand up to the loading, pressure, and flex. The Dremel type moto-tool isn't capable of that sort of operation without being mindful of how underpowered the Dremel is and how fragile those disks are. Material loading of the disk leads to bogging the Dremel which leads to increased pressure at the disk which leads to the disk coming apart. Add flexing of the disk to the process and it will explode in seconds. The tiny little Dremel isn't capable of cutting through a shock eyelet without your assistance. JMO
 

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Dremels have there uses. Restoring camed out slots in screws is a common use. Dressing inside corner welds where angle grinders wont clear is another.
 

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-When using an abrasive disk your technique makes a huge difference in the outcome. You can't just plow into the material and expect it to stand up to the loading, pressure, and flex. The Dremel type moto-tool isn't capable of that sort of operation without being mindful of how underpowered the Dremel is and how fragile those disks are. Material loading of the disk leads to bogging the Dremel which leads to increased pressure at the disk which leads to the disk coming apart. Add flexing of the disk to the process and it will explode in seconds. The tiny little Dremel isn't capable of cutting through a shock eyelet without your assistance. JMO
Yeah it ended up being a job for the fire wrench.
 
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How much time do you have? How many replacement wheels?

The best cut-off wheels for Dremel-type tools are these:

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They're a huge improvement over the flimsy brown wheels that come with kits.

I've used my Dremel for cutting DIN openings in fairly thick electrical enclosures. It works, just go slow and make multiple passes. Lead withthe edge of the wheel that wants to pull down into the metal to avoid jumping or climbing out of the cut.
 
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How much time do you have? How many replacement wheels?

The best cut-off wheels for Dremel-type tools are these:

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They're a huge improvement over the flimsy brown wheels that come with kits.

I've used my Dremel for cutting DIN openings in fairly thick electrical enclosures. It works, just go slow and make multiple passes. Lead withthe edge of the wheel that wants to pull down into the metal to avoid jumping or climbing out of the cut.
That’s what I bought. How do you know when to change the blade to the next one before it brakes? Just that it dulls and cuts slower? If I change it too fast I’m wasting expensive disks and if I wait too long I risk them exploding on me
 

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That’s what I bought. How do you know when to change the blade to the next one before it brakes? Just that it dulls and cuts slower? If I change it too fast I’m wasting expensive disks and if I wait too long I risk them exploding on me
They get too small
 

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How do you know when to change the blade to the next one before it brakes?
-Not familiar with those, are they a fibrous type of disk but thicker than the thin, fragile ones in the Dremel kits?
Just that it dulls and cuts slower?
-Most any type of mounted abrasive wheel gets "dull" because it gets clogged with material. Aluminum is notorious for clogging bench grinding wheels. At that point they do cut slower (clogged with material) and excessive heat starts being generated. The excessive heat can/will glaze the abrasives, it will show as shiny spots/sections. Mounted abrasive wheels are supposed to fracture and disintegrate while grinding at the outer periphery to expose new sharp edges. This is called friability and is a mixture of the abrasive, the matrix it's held in, and the relative hardness of the abrasive. If the wheel gets clogged or glazed then this doesn't happen. This can be avoided by using a coarse dressing stick momentarily against the wheel enough to fracture the periphery and de-glaze it. Dressing sticks are uniform shaped but look like they came out of a volcano. They're cheap and should also be used on bench grinder wheels for the same reasons.
If I change it too fast I’m wasting expensive disks and if I wait too long I risk them exploding on me
-Wheels shouldn't explode unless they get clogged/glazed and you're putting too much pressure on them or you're flexing them sideways.
 

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The Dremel disks are very thin--like 1/6". They wear fast enough that clogging or glazing are very rarely a problem.

For cutting on the flat, your biggest limit to how small you can let the disk get and still be useful is the body of the tool. The 1 1/2" disk is already smaller dia than the body when new.

The disks have so little mass that any reasonable PPE will protect you from a shattered disk.
 
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The Dremel disks are very thin--like 1/6". They wear fast enough that clogging or glazing are very rarely a problem.

For cutting on the flat, your biggest limit to how small you can let the disk get and still be useful is the body of the tool. The 1 1/2" disk is already smaller dia than the body when new.

The disks have so little mass that any reasonable PPE will protect you from a shattered disk.
They get too small
Damn I haven’t used it yet didn’t realize the disc just gets smaller as you use it. So it got abrasive in the whole body? It’s not just the one edge that when it dulls it’s done? Is it like a Mr clean magic eraser where as you use it gets smaller but the inside is the same material thru out?
 

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If it matters I got a m12 fuel dremel. Wondering the max thickness of metal I can cut through with it. I tried on some shelf brackets and I got a little through it but seemed like it exceeded the tool limits so I stopped.
You can cut as deep/thick as the remaining life on your cutoff wheel. This is true for any abrasive cutoff tool though *shrugs*
 

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So it got abrasive in the whole body? It’s not just the one edge that when it dulls it’s done? Is it like a Mr clean magic eraser where as you use it gets smaller but the inside is the same material thru out?
-I've not examined the ones that @Beerhippie posted but they should be. All of the industrial grade abrasive cut-off wheels I've seen/used are made from the same abrasive material throughout the disk, not like diamond wheels that only have a small section/band coated with diamond. Use them until they get too small in diameter to function. When they do come apart just make sure you're not in the "throw" of the debris zone. You should be doing this as a habit anyway for any type of operation whether it's a grinder, milling machine, or lathe. Use of safety glasses should also be a habit for any type of process that uses a powered device.
 

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Damn I haven’t used it yet didn’t realize the disc just gets smaller as you use it. So it got abrasive in the whole body? It’s not just the one edge that when it dulls it’s done? Is it like a Mr clean magic eraser where as you use it gets smaller but the inside is the same material thru out?
It's the same as a cutting disk for an angle grinder, just smaller and thinner. It'll wear away to nothing.
 

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As most of us do, I have 'tool redundancy.' The Dremel E-Z Lock discs are thicker material than the plain un-labeled Dremel abrasive discs which use some sort of fabric reinforcement. Then there are the 'thick as a rose petal (and about as-durable)' Dremel discs which I don't see having the square fabric reinforcement material/no disc label.

I strongly suggest that anyone using any cutting tool like a side-grinder or a die tool, use a faceshield instead of some-sort of safety glasses. You will fare far-better in the event of an explosion of a cutting wheel, a grinding wheel, a bit, or whatever you chuck-up in a small tool such as a Dremel or a side-grinder. I keep a couple of faceshields in the shop, so I don't have to wander far to find one to use. I gifted our adult son w/one to use also.

I've worn-out a couple of Dremels over the years. They have made jobs possible I wouldn't have been able to perform otherwise w/my tools on-hand. I think I'm at 3 side-grinders now, and 3 rotary grinders of the Dremel light-duty type. I have two house locations, so each has at least one.
 

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How much time do you have? How many replacement wheels?

The best cut-off wheels for Dremel-type tools are these:

1PKX3_AS01?$adapimg$&hei=536&wid=536.jpg

They're a huge improvement over the flimsy brown wheels that come with kits.

I've used my Dremel for cutting DIN openings in fairly thick electrical enclosures. It works, just go slow and make multiple passes. Lead withthe edge of the wheel that wants to pull down into the metal to avoid jumping or climbing out of the cut.
I love the EZ Lock discs. But beware that there are fakes on ebay. Bought a pack of 5 and every one of them tore out the center metal hub very early in life of disc. Meanwhile with genuine Dremel EZ Locks, I can reliably wear the entire disc down to a nub.

Dremels and similar tools are very handy. Recently used sanding drum to sharpen hedge trimmers. And they have plastic EZ Lock cutting discs too, which are handy and won't make a mess like trying to use regular cutting disc on plastic.

That said, for cutting metal, if I can fit a mostly worn down (and thus small diameter) cutting disc on a 4-1/2" grinder into a tight place, I will go that route over dremel or OMT - so much faster.
 
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As most of us do, I have 'tool redundancy.' The Dremel E-Z Lock discs are thicker material than the plain un-labeled Dremel abrasive discs which use some sort of fabric reinforcement. Then there are the 'thick as a rose petal (and about as-durable)' Dremel discs which I don't see having the square fabric reinforcement material/no disc label.

I strongly suggest that anyone using any cutting tool like a side-grinder or a die tool, use a faceshield instead of some-sort of safety glasses. You will fare far-better in the event of an explosion of a cutting wheel, a grinding wheel, a bit, or whatever you chuck-up in a small tool such as a Dremel or a side-grinder. I keep a couple of faceshields in the shop, so I don't have to wander far to find one to use. I gifted our adult son w/one to use also.

I've worn-out a couple of Dremels over the years. They have made jobs possible I wouldn't have been able to perform otherwise w/my tools on-hand. I think I'm at 3 side-grinders now, and 3 rotary grinders of the Dremel light-duty type. I have two house locations, so each has at least one.
Any recommends on who makes a good face shield or what features they got? Honestly I should buy one
 

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Any recommends on who makes a good face shield or what features they got? Honestly I should buy one
3M makes a very sturdy one. I've bounced a fair amount of **** off of it. Pricing is reasonable and so are the replacement shields.

I once shattered a 3" cut-off wheel in a die grinder. Pieces went right through the cheap-*** face shield I had and I had to have one of my bosses pull a chunk out of my earlobe. How was I to know he couldn't handle blood?
 
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