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  1. J

    3200 sq ft shop project

    Here is a link for the electrical plan. It shows the floor plan of the shop and work areas. I have all the tools/equipment/workbenches locations planned out, but I never took the time to draw it up. The majority of the stuff will be located on the walls in the motorcycle and car work area...
  2. J

    3200 sq ft shop project

    The majority of the sheets are just up with nails right now to hold them there temporarily. My screw gun was acting up, so we are going to go back later and fully screw all the boards.
  3. J

    3200 sq ft shop project

    I offered to let my friend do some work out of the space, he is a certified motorcycle technician. He would make the majority of the money, but would need to kick some cash in to cover utilities, insurance, etc. Right now my insurance is just for private use, if I mix any commercial use in, I...
  4. J

    Recommendations needed for 3200 sq ft shop floor

    Your floor is looking very nice. I have been trying to decide if I want to use 1 or 4 tiles for to make the checker. I think the 4 tile checker will look a little better, however there are alot of weird angles in my shop so it will probably make those more noticeable.
  5. J

    Recommendations needed for 3200 sq ft shop floor

    R&L Carriers showed up with my RaceDeck REVolution on Thursday. I am anxious to put it down, we are probably 3-4 weeks away from installation since we just started hanging drywall. Here are the colors I am using:
  6. J

    3200 sq ft shop project

    The insulation and drywall was supposed to be delivered Thursday at 8am, they finally showed up at 3:30pm and it took them nearly an hour to unload. The overhead power lines made it a tight fit for their boom truck. Our first project was to drywall the furnace room since they will be...
  7. J

    3200 sq ft shop project

    There definitely is alot more flexibility with commercial/industrial zoned properties. The downside is you are required to have stamped drawings whenever you want to pull a building permit and property taxes are much higher. Ohio building limits private garage uses to 1000 sq ft. There is an...
  8. J

    3200 sq ft shop project

    Thanks. I haven't decided what to do with brick, I have never liked the looks of painted brick. One problem I need to address is the brick isn't securely fastened to the concrete block behind it. We got some large iscicles this winter and it pulled the brick away from the concrete. I either...
  9. J

    3200 sq ft shop project

    It is a Direct Lift ProCycle XLT. I bought it from Greg Smith Equipment. They are direct copies of the Handy lifts and are 1/2 the price. For the lift, ATV extensions and jack it was under $700. I got the Coke Fridge of Craigslist from a small restaraunt that was closing. We have an...
  10. J

    3200 sq ft shop project

    I did get a good deal on the place there is a huge cost of living difference between California and Cleveland. Last time I checked the average engineer right out of college gets 60k in California, in Cleveland, they are lucky to get 30-35k.
  11. J

    3200 sq ft shop project

    Well, we have been working hard on the shop, but I haven't really gotten around to cleaning it up good and taking pictures. I took some last night with my cell phone, they aren't the greatest, but at least it is an update. We are going to start insulation/drywall tomorrow.
  12. J

    How much light do I need???

    Here is the link to my lighting plan (it is a PDF) Lighting Plan There is essentially 6 rows of light fixtures. Row 1, 3, and 5 are on the same circuit/switch and row 2, 4, and 6 are on the same circuit/switch. We are going to start insulating/drywall tomorrow so I need to make a decision...
  13. J

    Need advice/info from those who make a living in garage

    Great advice - getting sued, being bankrupt and without any assets will not make you nearly as miserable as setting up liability protection and insurance :headscrat Bottom line, If you want a "hobby" buy a project car or work for free. If you want to make money start a business. Anything in...
  14. J

    How much light do I need???

    I appreciate the post, your shop looks very nice. I was wondering if my shop was going to have enough light, now I am wondering if I have too much :lol_hitti My shop is twice the size of yours, but I am going to use 27 of the same fixtures you have and (6) 4' 2 bulb T8s. Mine are in 2...
  15. J

    Need advice/info from those who make a living in garage

    Unless you are sharing a large shop with several people, you will not find cheap shop space that is zoned commercial. My 3200 sq ft shop would rent for $1800-$2000 per month. Property taxes alone are $400/month. Before I bought the shop, I rented 2 others in residentially zoned areas. 1800sq...
  16. J

    Need advice/info from those who make a living in garage

    . These statements are accurate. The purpose of an LLC is not to own nothing so you can bankrupt it, it is to shield liablity so your personal assets are not at risk. If you used this approach and got sued, the LLC protection could easily get thrown out in court, then the liability is back...
  17. J

    Need advice/info from those who make a living in garage

    Well, I haven't done research on residential zoning other than building size restrictions, so I don't really know for sure. Several of the posts in this thread make it sound like you are going to get fined heavily and/or sent to prison for running a business out of your home... While that may...
  18. J

    Need advice/info from those who make a living in garage

    There is a 4 bay shop 500 feet from my house. The owner retired last year and is trying to sell the business/building. I was looking for a building to buy for a shop at the time so I stopped to talk to him. I looked at his books for the past 10 years, at their peak they grossed 225k with 4...
  19. J

    Need advice/info from those who make a living in garage

    If this is what you want to accomplish, you should not be charging for your services. If you are helping a friend work on his car for free, than the likelihood of a liability claim diminishes and if one does surface your homeowner's will likely cover you since there is no business use...
  20. J

    Need advice/info from those who make a living in garage

    I forgot about that, that is a good point. With SEC 179 deductions, depreciation, operating expenses, etc. You should be able to make a fair amount of "tax free" income in an environment like that. If I remember right you cannot carry forward hobby losses like you can passive losses. I...
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