48x36 garage/apartment

wasfast · Jan 9, 2015

Do you mean the initial attachment of the truss-to-top plate or brackets like hurricane ties?

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Simpson-Strong-Tie-18-Gauge-Hurricane-Tie-H1/100375256

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Simpson-...lvanized-18-Gauge-Hurricane-Tie-H3Z/202092488

jopickens · Jan 9, 2015

I've attached the trusses to the top plates of the front/rear walls with the clips in your first link yes...

as well I plan to timberlock screw them from the inside

I'm talking specifically about the interior 8' apartment walls (even tho they'll only be a few), nailing-screwing-clipping them in some fashion to the truss bottom chords where they cross paths.

Josh

bored350 · Jan 9, 2015

jopickens said:
I'm talking specifically about the interior 8' apartment walls

Every builder I have worked with, with the exception of one, would screw the interior walls to the trusses. The one that didn't, I recall him getting a number of complaints about wavy ceiling joints before the 1 year home warranty expired. I can't say for certain if that was the cause, but for the minimal cost and time vs. your project as a whole, why not do it?

jopickens · Jan 9, 2015

Agree and my intentions have always been to do so. I was curious to hear a good reason why one shouldn't etc. etc. thanks!

jopickens · Jan 12, 2015

Finally got the three overhead doors up and tracked... still need to install/wind the springs etc.

jopickens · Jan 12, 2015

Anyone have an opinion on using PVC vs fiber cement based trim?

vr4joe · Jan 12, 2015

Many contractors and architects are moving away from PVC trim due to the high expansion and contraction issues. You will lose every **** and miter joint, no matter if you nail the **** out of each joint or pvc cement each joint. The old residential architecture firm I use to work for would refuse using PVC trim, no matter how badly the client was pushing for it.

If you are in a climate region that sees all four seasons, I would high recommend using the fiber cement board over the PVC.

welder57 · Jan 12, 2015

Great looking building!!!!!!!!!!

d0n · Jan 12, 2015

Awesome. You must be proud and excited!

jopickens · Jan 13, 2015

^^thanks guys - it is fun 4 sure... My 36" x 96" man door should be in this Friday. Fiberglass door. Painting it red to match the red door the wife wants to put on the house. It'll have the craftsman window with vertical grill up high. Hopefully the 8' tall man door will make the 10x10 overhead doors not look so overpowering beside our farm house. Trying to keep this NOT looking like a 2700 sq.ft. 3 stall garage.

jopickens · Jan 14, 2015

Anyone have any experience with Boral?

http://www.boralamerica.com/TruExterior/About/boral-truexterior®-trim

ADSR · Jan 14, 2015

I love that roof! I did snap lok on mine and it looks pretty close. That roof won't leak and will last 100 years.

jopickens · Jan 15, 2015

LORDDiESEL said:
I love that roof! I did snap lok on mine and it looks pretty close. That roof won't leak and will last 100 years.

Thanks... I like it as well. From your site name I take it you are interested in diesel powered trucks/autos?
Josh

Mike.ASC · Jan 15, 2015

Another nice garage build .

quad · Jan 16, 2015

Great project. The standing seam looks awesome. Regarding siding options, there are so many. You should consider cement board panels / siding and maybe IPE planks for accents.

I think a white finish would look really slick with your standing seam roof. You should edge the whole building with gravel / river rocks to prevent splashing of dirt on the siding or walls.

http://www.trendir.com/house-design/contemporary-take-on-the-warm-country-home.html

jopickens · Jan 23, 2015

^thanks quad
Those examples you posted sure are sharp. I like the blue/white scenario as well. I'm leaning towards blue roof, white trim-windows-overhead doors, herringbone'ish colored siding, gray porch floors and cement, red man doors

jopickens · Jan 28, 2015

My garage man door arrived today.
What's the best method/paint etc. to coat a primed fiberglass entry door? It'll be behind a glass storm door FYI.
Wife wants it to be red.

bored350 · Jan 28, 2015

Red needs a gray primer.

bored350 · Jan 29, 2015

Finally found a few minutes to expand my comment. My wife also wanted a red door. Our door was also a primed fiberglass door. We chose a Sherwin Williams color, followed their advice and had it sprayed with a gray base coat for the primer. This does 2 things, first it brings out any factory imperfections so you can fill/repair them now and second, it prevents the need for a tremendous # of red coats to be painted. Spray all coats as light as possible and allow extended dry time between coats, especially the gray coat.

jopickens · May 18, 2015

Thanks - door is turning out nice. Have been busy with work & life - few hrs between here and there thrown at the garage/apartment project. Painted the downstairs ceiling white recently...
Josh

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jopickens · Jun 13, 2015

Built my stairs today...

1/2 Cup · Jun 14, 2015

Nice work on the stairs. :thumbup:

jopickens · Jun 14, 2015

Thank you... I had never used the EZStairs brackets but picked a few sets up last year uber cheap and decided to try 'em out. I never liked the idea of cutting so much out of 2x12s and really didn't want a mid span support. Using two 2x8s for each side made for an extremely sturdy set of stairs. They are 51" wide. Total rise 121", run 150". Tread rise 7.5", run 10.5".
Josh

NUTTSGT · Jun 15, 2015

Those are some mighty nice looking stairs. What's the plan for the finish on them ? Anything fancy ?

jopickens · Jun 15, 2015

NUTTSGT said:
Those are some mighty nice looking stairs. What's the plan for the finish on them ? Anything fancy ?

Well... honestly I hadn't thought much about that until you posed the question.

These were my first 'interior stairs'... as in I've built outdoor stairs on decks, patios, barns, garages, but nothing that was this 'quality'. ha

First shot would be to paint the sides white, risers grey (to match the grey steel work), and then add a nice charcoal colored rubber tread - post apartment construction of course.

Thoughts?

Josh

jopickens · Jun 22, 2015

Started building some walls Saturday... will finish them up once the pocket door kits arrive and I carry the tub/shower upstairs and get it in place.

Josh

1949 caddyman · Jun 22, 2015

Thanks for the pics. This is a nice shop.

jopickens · Jun 22, 2015

1949 caddyman said:
Thanks for the pics. This is a nice shop.

Appreciate it... just wish I had more time to devote to the build. If I were in my 30s again w/o a family I could be a bit more aggressive on the pace.

Josh

jopickens · Jul 9, 2015

Four pocket door kits arrived...
Picked up the one piece bath/shower unit.
Wired up outlets & lights in the garage.

Off to scout camps for the next two weeks!

Josh

jopickens · Jul 24, 2015

Had the privilege to attend a week of boy scout summer camp with my oldest son, then directly thereafter a week of cub scout summer camp with my youngest. Much fun was had... now back to the garage project.

Josh

MagKarl · Jul 24, 2015

Looks great.

jopickens · Jan 2, 2016

Well I've been busy and haven't posted much... Still plugging away on the garage/apartment build.

Put the windows in...

Took the dog and boys hiking yesterday

Started up with some siding

Josh

tam · Jul 30, 2016

Any updates?

jopickens · Aug 2, 2016

Hey thanks for checking in - unfortunately I've not had much time to work on it this summer with my boys being very active in scouts, 4H, rifle team, camping, etc. Should be hitting it pretty hard mid month and continuing on until it's complete pre-snow flying.

Josh

jopickens · Aug 30, 2016

Still alive... busy prepping for winter and being undermined by a longwall coal mine in October. :/
This brings me to a heating question for anyone with insight to radiant heat systems. For many years I've heated my shop with a simple Takagi THWH and in-floor radiant hot water heat. It's worked flawlessly minus a fan failure in the Takagi. The basic system is as such (not all the valves and whatnot diagrammed etc.):

Now for the bad news... I'm loosing my free natural gas (from a well on the property) due to the longwall coal mine. They buy out the wells and plug them at the level of the coal seam so they can mine through them etc. I can talk all about that at some point if anyone is interested... but basically I have to switch to other heating sources for my house, garage (what this thread is about), and my shop - which this is a question for. I plan to switch out my NG Takagi for a LP version and add an outdoor wood boiler as primary heat source. The LP THWH is relatively cheap and the Hardy 120k btu OWB was given to me. What I want to have happen is the LP THWH serve as backup for when I'm away for days and unable to feed the wood boiler. I quickly threw the following together (obviously without valves and many details shown) as a method to incorporate the two heat sources for my shop.

My thoughts were to have a thermostat control the pump in the radiant floor system to circulate the water through a... say 50 plate heat exchanger as well as activate the wood boiler when it drops below 65 degF. Then if the shop temperature fell to say 50 degF (which may indicate the wood boiler is no longer producing heat) a second thermostat would open the two NC valves and close the NO valve allowing the LP THWH to provide heat to the floor radiant loops.

I know there is probably a lot missing from my quick diagrams and many questions someone gifted in HVAC would ask - but am I anywhere close to a simple integration of these two heat sources?

Thanks,
Josh

TomcoPDR · Aug 30, 2016

great pics, looking good

luke7734 · Aug 31, 2016

Why are you using a heat exchanger? That's just heat loss..

You worried about corrosion from the boiler?

jopickens · Aug 31, 2016

My thoughts were that the heat exchanger would be in the shop - and any heat loss from it is heat gained in the space.
As far as the outdoor wood boiler - there will be days go by it isn't being used so I need a method to protect it from freezing.

jopickens · Oct 4, 2018

Long time no updates -

From above, heat plate exchanger didn't work so well... plumbed it direct and have heated with wood for 2yrs now.

Otherwise - mid Oct. 2016 the long wall coal mine passed under us in a few days... over the next 45 days our entire property and everyone around us dropped 4' (that is feet) in elevation. Farm house took the biggest hit... I'll come back and describe things in more detail but we have settled with the mining company and am now returning to construction on the garage. Snow will be here soon!

Josh

C lectric · Oct 4, 2018

Oh man that's a dog. No offense to the dogs. Hope you got a good settlement.

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