P&C Stuff

Rileysan · May 15, 2018

jabberwoki said:
The Mysterious Mr X, a well known bubble buster lol.

I have a spare P&C 4 way lug wrench up for trade to any lusting collector, whatcha got?

On a positive note, he called my 1/4" drive breaker bar "rare" - as in the first one he's put his hands on.

I have a 4-way lug wrench but it's not up for trade. I bet Smokeshow would be interested!

Brian

Smokeshow69 · May 15, 2018

Rileysan said:
On a positive note, he called my 1/4" drive breaker bar "rare" - as in the first one he's put his hands on.

I have a 4-way lug wrench but it's not up for trade. I bet Smokeshow would be interested!

Brian

And as if on cue, I just sent him a pm [emoji23]

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jabberwoki · May 15, 2018

Smoke has first dibs.

ssdave · May 19, 2018

I don't buy P&C as a general rule, but couldn't pass up this massive "pry bar" piece today:

stormking · May 19, 2018

Love the pry bar. For some reason I have two of those NOS handles and no bars. :wtf:

Rileysan · May 20, 2018

ssdave said:
I don't buy P&C as a general rule, but couldn't pass up this massive "pry bar" piece today:

Great find Ssdave. If you want to part with it, let me know! Z

Rileysan · May 20, 2018

Random post. Does anyone have any long-pattern combo wrenches?

The only one in my collection is this 9/16". I have no idea where I acquired it.

Rileysan · May 20, 2018

I don't recall if I posted this before or not. My lone P&C whitworth combo wrench.

Smokeshow69 · May 21, 2018

Rileysan said:
Random post. Does anyone have any long-pattern combo wrenches?

The only one in my collection is this 9/16". I have no idea where I acquired it.

I have the proto la set but not one p&c. Ps that drawer liner looks familiar [emoji23]

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DD T/A · May 21, 2018

These all are in great condition, but two of them appear to say P&O but everything, even the style, reflects P&C. They are all owner-marked by "Gil".

Oldtuleguy · May 21, 2018

Those are p&c alright. P&o? Misstamp maybe?

Snaparxon · May 21, 2018

Rileysan said:
Random post. Does anyone have any long-pattern combo wrenches?

The only one in my collection is this 9/16". I have no idea where I acquired it.

I have a Proto MFD set. I think you may have got that P&C from me. I had one at one time, I vaguely remember selling or trading with someone in your area of Oregon a couple of years ago. IDK for sure

bmwrd0 · May 21, 2018

Needed a puller a minute ago, getting an old motor apart

Might need to spray bomb the box though...

ssdave · May 22, 2018

Rileysan said:
Random post. Does anyone have any long-pattern combo wrenches?

The only one in my collection is this 9/16". I have no idea where I acquired it.

There were some of those in the P&C stuff I had a year or so ago and tried to sell:

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=347585

Think I got a big one also in with a bunch of Plomb last summer; they look so much alike I got it mixed in. I left the rest of the set at the sale, was just after the Plomb.

Pretty much just like Proto, just marked P&C.

Rileysan · May 22, 2018

ssdave said:
There were some of those in the P&C stuff I had a year or so ago and tried to sell:

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=347585

Think I got a big one also in with a bunch of Plomb last summer; they look so much alike I got it mixed in. I left the rest of the set at the sale, was just after the Plomb.

Pretty much just like Proto, just marked P&C.

If I had seen your lot for sale, I would have purchased it! Got any more like it?

tin medic · May 22, 2018

A few P&C items. The puller has a Plomb wheel on it.

ssdave · May 22, 2018

Rileysan said:
If I had seen your lot for sale, I would have purchased it! Got any more like it?

I threw them in the discard bucket when they didn't sell, but I think I put them in the storage before I took them down and traded them off to the local store. I'll set them aside to trade to you for something when I move into my shop. Probably have another dozen or two pieces to throw in with them now. Have the big wrench, and I know I picked up a 5/16" or 1/4" one last week. Might throw in the big screwdriver/pry bar, but it's residing in my user tools at the moment as it filled a niche I didn't have already. Always a few pieces of P&C in with the other stuff I buy. They're in with the general "get rid of" box of USA made tools that have some value to someone, that don't get thrown out immediately. This stuff accumulates at an incredible rate sometimes. Just to get a few Proto or Williams or Snap-on that I don't already have.

d42jeep · May 22, 2018

tin medic said:
A few P&C items. The puller has a Plomb wheel on it.

Do you think that the wheel came with the puller accidentally from the manufacturer or is it a replacement? I could see that happening if they were all made in the same factory.
-Don

MR.X · May 23, 2018

DD T/A said:
These all are in great condition, but two of them appear to say P&O but everything, even the style, reflects P&C. They are all owner-marked by "Gil".

Those oldtimers look to be in great shape. Could you post a pic of the jaws on the two comb. wrenches?

tin medic · May 23, 2018

d42jeep said:
Do you think that the wheel came with the puller accidentally from the manufacturer or is it a replacement? I could see that happening if they were all made in the same factory.

-Don

Don, not sure if they came together or not. The puller base is chromed but the bolt and wheel aren’t.

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d42jeep · May 23, 2018

Thanks for checking. I guess we may never know.

-Don

3baygarage · May 24, 2018

Tin, I noticed your P&C No. 19 chisel.

Here is a No. 18. I think this is supposed to be a 1” blade but comes in a little under.

Rileysan · May 29, 2018

P&C # 1302, 2 oz. hammer with original handle. It doesn't have a ding on it!

Brian

Outlawmws · May 29, 2018

Awesome! Needs to be in the Tiny Tools thread as well, not to mention the hammertime thread!!

Rileysan · May 31, 2018

At the urging of Mr. X, I dug out and photographed this early P&C double box wrench.

Aside from the lack of markings, what really jumped out at me was the primitive broaching at both ends. Identified in the 1927 catalog as No. 8283 "Double offset 1923 & 1924 Chevrolet M. B. box wrenches" (yes, plural) 13/16" x 7/8". Catalog price: $3.35 (a fortune, imo).

I think you'll agree that this wrench accurately fits the "hand forged tools" mantra of P&C.

Brian

Rileysan · May 31, 2018

Outlawmws said:
Awesome! Needs to be in the Tiny Tools thread as well, not to mention the hammertime thread!!

And I'm not ignoring your comments. Unfortunately, I'm using the browser on my phone to access GJ so searching through threads is a pita. I usually wait for threads to be updated and bumped to the first page before posting to them

RagTopTA · Jun 6, 2018

Little P&C hammer that came today, and a group shot with some other Plomb and P&C hammers

Oldtuleguy · Jun 7, 2018

Rileysan said:
At the urging of Mr. X, I dug out and photographed this early P&C double box wrench.

Aside from the lack of markings, what really jumped out at me was the primitive broaching at both ends. Identified in the 1927 catalog as No. 8283 "Double offset 1923 & 1924 Chevrolet M. B. box wrenches" (yes, plural) 13/16" x 7/8". Catalog price: $3.35 (a fortune, imo).

I think you'll agree that this wrench accurately fits the "hand forged tools" mantra of P&C.

Brian

According to my inflation calculator, that's 506$ 2018 dollars

Rileysan · Jun 7, 2018

RagTopTA said:
Little P&C hammer that came today, and a group shot with some other Plomb and P&C hammers

Now I know qho outbid me

Rileysan · Jun 7, 2018

And speaking of eBay purchases, this came today. I snapped it up after only being listed for a couple hours.

Brian

Outlawmws · Jun 7, 2018

And now RT knows who beat him to the punch!

RagTopTA · Jun 7, 2018

hahaha yup! We post our evidence on here! at least we know they went to good homes! I sure like P&C stuff more and more.

Snaparxon · Jun 9, 2018

Not your normal run of the mill slip-joint pliers. Really heavy and comfortable handles.
Were these made by P&C or for P&C by another company?

Guessing mid 30's or 40's?

Private Lugnutz · Jun 9, 2018

Looks like early to mid 40's Utica grip and marking style to me, and Utica was the pliers and adjustable wrench supplier to the Plomb Empire in that time period. My bet would be Utica.

Snaparxon · Jun 9, 2018

Private Lugnutz said:
Looks like early to mid 40's Utica grip and marking style to me, and Utica was the pliers and adjustable wrench supplier to the Plomb Empire in that time period. My bet would be Utica.

I learn something new every day.

Smokeshow69 · Jun 9, 2018

Picked this up in a trade with tin medic ! Real excited to find it as I have been wanting one for quite some time!

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ssdave · Jun 9, 2018

snaparxon said:
Not your normal run of the mill slip-joint pliers. Really heavy and comfortable handles.
Were these made by P&C or for P&C by another company?

Guessing mid 30's or 40's?

Did you get those out on foothills drive? I passed up a pair like that yesterday there; also passed up proto wrenches which is unusual for me. Don't need any more and tired of having to pass them on.....

They had a fair amount of other nice stuff too. Brought more than I should have of it home.

Snaparxon · Jun 9, 2018

ssdave said:
Did you get those out on foothills drive? I passed up a pair like that yesterday there; also passed up proto wrenches which is unusual for me. Don't need any more and tired of having to pass them on.....

They had a fair amount of other nice stuff too. Brought more than I should have of it home.

Yep, I figured I beat you there, since I didn't see you. I got there at 8:45.
No big scores but it was worth cutting out of work to go.

MR.X · Jun 9, 2018

snaparxon said:
Not your normal run of the mill slip-joint pliers. Really heavy and comfortable handles.
Were these made by P&C or for P&C by another company?

Guessing mid 30's or 40's?

Man, those pre Plomb acquisition 8 series P&C pliers are so much scarcer than the later 12XX series ones. Nice find.

Username already in use · Jun 10, 2018

I don't find much P&C around my neck of the woods so I was happy to come across this 4oz hammer head (no handle) today at the flea.

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