2019 Garage Sale Thread

Private Lugnutz · Jul 9, 2019

txlonghorn1989 said:
2) Can you get replacement leather handles anywhere?

A couple of us cannibalize old luggage bought at flea markets or estate sales for that purpose, Mike. I don't know of a replacement source. My stock is 0 right now or I would send you one. I am looking for one for the wartime 3/4-inch drive Snap-on box I just picked up.

d42jeep · Jul 9, 2019

txlonghorn1989 said:
Outlaw, a couple of questions...
1) I think both were painted green originally. Was that the case for early (how early?) Kennedy boxes?
2) Can you get replacement leather handles anywhere?
3) The attachment on the top is mostly broken off on the cantilever box. You can probably notice in 2nd pic. That piece does not appear to be riveted. I wonder if it is spot welded? How would you fix that? I want to give this box to my son-in-law so I'm considering those fixes.

Definitely a Kennedy cantilever box, very likely made before 1949. Here is mine with the single center clasp. I believe the color is original. Like Lugz says, my wife and I check the closets of every estate sale looking for old luggage or valises with leather handles appropriate for vintage toolboxes. I never leave a decent leather handle behind. The box pictured was missing the handle when I found it at a Minden, Nevada antique shop.
-Don

seber · Jul 9, 2019

txlonghorn1989 said:
Pic 4: Pictured earlier, long C mortar chisel and an unmarked unknown tool. I saw this tool talked about here on GJ last year. I recall that when I heard what it did I thought what a great tool to have handy one of these days. I'm excited to have found one but I have no idea what it is used for. ???

That's a wire bending jig.

steaks&anvils · Jul 9, 2019

txlonghorn1989, you have jewelry making tools mixed in here.

too many for me to do a quick list of what i can identify.

try googling "jewelry tools" and cruise the websites.

there is a solder snippers or solder cutting pliers (or pigs ear notcher, I use a pair of these). pic 7 of the 1st post, simple cutter/pliers with the spring between the handles.

a few wire benders or loop formers (red handle and the block thing under the chisel that you ask about in the 2nd post, like Seber said).

the dome pairs, i think are dapping dies for making domes in metal. there may be a threaded rod/handle somewhere in your stuff that fits them.

in the 2nd post, pic 5 looks like fly tying vise table attachment bases? on the complete one, can a rod go through the side tightening knob?

again, in the 2nd post. in pic 2 piece that looks like an un cut file, it is probably a burnisher (good find, i love these and make my own too), if it were polished to a high shine, with no scratches etc, it would be used to set gems (smooth bezels, push prongs) and smooth imperfections/scratches in the silver.

again, your best bet is to look through the jewelry making websites. look in the soldering, pliers, polishing, metal forming sections. you may need to look on multiple websites, none of them carry everything...

some of these tools are european or older and not used much any more. From a time when hand work vs electric motor was the norm. I prefer hand work, too many etsy hacks out there now...

txlonghorn1989 · Jul 9, 2019

seber said:
That's a wire bending jig.

seber, Thanks! That was what I recalled but didn't trust my memory. Now if someone can remind me how and why you would need it to bend wire?

d42jeep said:
Definitely a Kennedy cantilever box, very likely made before 1949. Here is mine with the single center clasp. I believe the color is original. Like Lugz says, my wife and I check the closets of every estate sale looking for old luggage or valises with leather handles appropriate for vintage toolboxes. I never leave a decent leather handle behind. The box pictured was missing the handle when I found it at a Minden, Nevada antique shop.
-Don

Private Lugnutz said:
A couple of us cannibalize old luggage bought at flea markets or estate sales for that purpose, Mike. I don't know of a replacement source. My stock is 0 right now or I would send you one. I am looking for one for the wartime 3/4-inch drive Snap-on box I just picked up.

Thanks Don & Lugz! So the silver exterior paint with green interior would have been original? Given the condition of the clasp I wonder how much effort & dollars are worth investing in this one? I'll guess I'll wait to see my son-in-law's reaction before making that determination. I reckon I'm now in the group of people always on the lookout for leather handles!

Anyone have thoughts on how you'd proceed to fix that clasp?

txlonghorn1989 · Jul 9, 2019

d42jeep said:
Definitely a Kennedy cantilever box, very likely made before 1949. Here is mine with the single center clasp. I believe the color is original. Like Lugz says, my wife and I check the closets of every estate sale looking for old luggage or valises with leather handles appropriate for vintage toolboxes. I never leave a decent leather handle behind. The box pictured was missing the handle when I found it at a Minden, Nevada antique shop.
-Don

Don,
I'm just checking out the ads you posted. That aviation box is very cool and very likely the reason my son-in-law has always wanted one. He's a pilot. Now the general manager at the FBO in Fredericksburg, TX. It isn't often I find books aviation related that he hasn't already read or has in his library. Any idea what year that aviation box ad would have been published? Thanks for sharing the ads!!

Gidge · Jul 9, 2019

chrismenke : Nice score on the shop lights.

d42jeep · Jul 9, 2019

Lugz did the scan of the Navy NAF catalog that has been really useful for deciding which tools to put in my NAF Kennedy cantilever. It was issued in March of 1944. The single clasp box I posted upthread is actually kind of a light green. The last picture is how it looked when I found it.
-Don

pfaustus · Jul 9, 2019

txlonghorn1989 said:
The rest of the items in the toolboxes...

Pic 5: Pictured earlier, What are these things? The one on the right appears to be missing pieces which the left still has. ???

Pic 5 looks like parts to a set of trammel points. Yes one of them is missing the bolt that clamps onto various points. A lot of the stuff you have goes with them. Pic of a Starrett set here. http://www.starrett.com/metrology/p...tools/calipers-dividers-trammels/Trammels/59F

LesserSon · Jul 9, 2019

txlonghorn1989 said:
Now if someone can remind me how and why you would need it to bend wire?

Those jigs are handy when you have to make more than one of something, and they need to be more than approximately similar. I have used one to make custom peg hooks from the steel wire political candidates and realtors leave strewn all over, to hold up their signs.

txlonghorn1989 · Jul 9, 2019

LesserSon said:
Those jigs are handy when you have to make more than one of something, and they need to be more than approximately similar. I have used one to make custom peg hooks from the steel wire political candidates and realtors leave strewn all over, to hold up their signs.

I get it. Thanks LS!

Arne73 · Jul 10, 2019

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What's acceptable about posting upcoming garage sales? I know of a local one this weekend but won't be able to make it.
Thanks

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Private Lugnutz · Jul 10, 2019

I don't mind bringing home only one thing from a flea market when it's something good. This morning I picked up these "Mephisto" specialty pliers. I will have a lot more to say about them and more photos to post later after I get them cleaned up.

LesserSon · Jul 10, 2019

My second Wednesday at the Leesport flea market - this time, at 7am opening. $22 total.
Immediately met a guy selling three old vises for $8ea. First one was essentially identical to the later Stanley 746 I bought, but had held onto its original handle. I looked it over pretty hard, but could find no markings. I suppose it could have been a Jersey Victor or some such, but I finally gave up and let it sit for someone else. Later saw a 5 or 6” Prentiss for a modest $65, but both the slide and the back of the static tower were cracked down the center line.
Poking along with the Stanley thumping me through my backpack, spotted a fliptop carry box. 33-tab hinge. “E.J.MacALEER Co. INC / Philadelphia”. Guy says, “five dollars.” It took me a while to warm up to it, since I already have one very similar box. This one had a three Barcalo combos, and then I noticed it also had some DBEs I thought were Craftsman longC, but turned out to be “Precision Bilt.” Have to look that up. And then, a set of 1/2dr Plvmb sockets, missing the 7/8 with an extension and a deep 13/16”. Couple other items - okay, $5. It appears to have been painted black all its life, but unless someone tells why not, I think I will strip it and paint it OD green.
Another guy seemed familiar, but I think I’ve seen him over at Blue Ridge flea. Bought a couple dollar items, including the big Proto LA offset screwdriver.
Lastly, a sad note. Older guy has a multiple tables of tools. Immediately, I spot a Henry Disston screwdriver and start poking around. Open a nondescript old blue-gray box and there’s an unmarked 1/2dr Tee with an abuse curve to it and some Craftsman sockets. Six if the sickets are C-manufacturer with the diagonal-hash knurl. “How much for this box of sockets?” “$15” That’s more than I want to spend in something I don’t personally collect, but I know these are the very first Craftsman sockets ever offered by Sears. I tried to get hin down to $12, but he won’t do it. Says, “that breaker bar is worth that.” Well, no it’s not, but I just point out that it’s bent, unmarked, and probably foreign. I say thanks and move on. In hindsight, I should have said, “then you keep the ‘breaker bar’ and I can have the box of sockets for free.”
Ah, wit, where wast thou when I needed thee?

Still, a nice morning.

LesserSon · Jul 10, 2019

Nice BX cutters, Lugz. I’ve only seen one Mephisto pliers, and they were just slipjoints, IIRC.

3baygarage · Jul 10, 2019

I hear ya on the seller LS. Those Precision Bilt wrenches look to be of Barcalo manufacture.

Unusual pickup Lugz.

d42jeep · Jul 10, 2019

LesserSon said:
My second Wednesday at the Leesport flea market - this time, at 7am opening. $22 total.
Immediately met a guy selling three old vises for $8ea. First one was essentially identical to the later Stanley 746 I bought, but had held onto its original handle. I looked it over pretty hard, but could find no markings. I suppose it could have been a Jersey Victor or some such, but I finally gave up and let it sit for someone else. Later saw a 5 or 6” Prentiss for a modest $65, but both the slide and the back of the static tower were cracked down the center line.
Poking along with the Stanley thumping me through my backpack, spotted a fliptop carry box. 33-tab hinge. “E.J.MacALEER Co. INC / Philadelphia”. Guy says, “five dollars.” It took me a while to warm up to it, since I already have one very similar box. This one had a three Barcalo combos, and then I noticed it also had some DBEs I thought were Craftsman longC, but turned out to be “Precision Bilt.” Have to look that up. And then, a set of 1/2dr Plvmb sockets, missing the 7/8 with an extension and a deep 13/16”. Couple other items - okay, $5. It appears to have been painted black all its life, but unless someone tells why not, I think I will strip it and paint it OD green.
Another guy seemed familiar, but I think I’ve seen him over at Blue Ridge flea. Bought a couple dollar items, including the big Proto LA offset screwdriver.
Lastly, a sad note. Older guy has a multiple tables of tools. Immediately, I spot a Henry Disston screwdriver and start poking around. Open a nondescript old blue-gray box and there’s an unmarked 1/2dr Tee with an abuse curve to it and some Craftsman sockets. Six if the sickets are C-manufacturer with the diagonal-hash knurl. “How much for this box of sockets?” “$15” That’s more than I want to spend in something I don’t personally collect, but I know these are the very first Craftsman sockets ever offered by Sears. I tried to get hin down to $12, but he won’t do it. Says, “that breaker bar is worth that.” Well, no it’s not, but I just point out that it’s bent, unmarked, and probably foreign. I say thanks and move on. In hindsight, I should have said, “then you keep the ‘breaker bar’ and I can have the box of sockets for free.”
Ah, wit, where wast thou when I needed thee?

Still, a nice morning.

Good haul! I guess the question is who didn’t Barcalo make wrenches for?
All of my McAleer boxes started out green. Not exactly Olive Drab but more of an Olive Gloss. When the finish has been too far gone I have painted some OD and they looked appropriate. Lugz has made a science of WW2 toolbox repaints.
-Don

Private Lugnutz · Jul 10, 2019

LesserSon said:
...and then I noticed it also had some DBEs I thought were Craftsman longC, but turned out to be “Precision Bilt.” Have to look that up.

A Spiegel brand. I have Precision-Bilt socket sets made by New Britain in the late 40's. Very nice tools. See my thread here, and a secondary more general thread started by someone else, here, where I have posted some period ads.

LesserSon said:
Nice BX cutters, Lugz. I’ve only seen one Mephisto pliers, and they were just slipjoints, IIRC.

3baygarage said:
Unusual pickup Lugz.

Thanks, guys. I just blissfully lost a half day researching them with terrific results!

I will be tacking plenty of info and some photos onto a Mephisto thread that JoCoSawdust started later today.

Funny purchase story, too. One of those guys who insist on selling the whole box, which, in this case, was a flimsy tackle- or home office-type thing with household junk drawer tools and stuff in it. You know how it goes.

Him: 'I was hoping to sell the whole thing.'
Me: 'I understand, but I don't really need any of the other things.'
Him: 'But I'd rather get rid of it all at once.'
Me: 'I probably would, too, if I was selling it. But I really only want these pliers.'
Him: 'I only want $10 and you can have it all.'
Me: 'I get it, and it's a very fair price, sir, but I only want these. I'll just end up throwing the other stuff away.'

Eventually he relented.

Dibiase77 · Jul 10, 2019

So I picked up this MAC AW434 impact this morning for $10. Seller said it worked great going forward but it was slow on reverse. Figured I'd take a chance on seeing if I could fix it. Any suggestions as to how to go about fixing it?

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Private Lugnutz · Jul 10, 2019

More pics and info on my Mephisto pliers/cutters on JoCo's Mephisto thread, linked here. Click, then go to thread, and scroll down.

Outlawmws · Jul 10, 2019

Arne73 said:
Mods/all~
What's acceptable about posting upcoming garage sales? I know of a local one this weekend but won't be able to make it.
Thanks

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we have been posting upcoming sales of most any type (Estate sales, Yard sales, flea markets...) I think from the beginning. so no issues I've ever seen.

454ragtop · Jul 10, 2019

Dibiase77 said:
So I picked up this MAC AW434 impact this morning for $10. Seller said it worked great going forward but it was slow on reverse. Figured I'd take a chance on seeing if I could fix it. Any suggestions as to how to go about fixing it?

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First thing to do is oil it and try it. Years ago I bought a 3/8 impact that the pro tool dealer said doesn't work. It was either Snap on or Blue point, can't remember which, oiled it, worked fine. Next time I was there he was telling a potential customer how he tries to be honest with his descriptions. I jokingly told him he wasn't honest with me, said it didn't work, but it did. He replied if I wasn't happy I could return it for a full refund. We both laughed!

JABgj · Jul 10, 2019

Dibiase77 said:
So I picked up this MAC AW434 impact this morning for $10. Seller said it worked great going forward but it was slow on reverse. Figured I'd take a chance on seeing if I could fix it. Any suggestions as to how to go about fixing it?

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See if you can find a diagram. Take it apart and clean everything. Put a few drops of air tool oil in the air fitting and see what happens. Might be o rings or seals in the direction selector but fire it up first and see what you get.

454ragtop · Jul 10, 2019

Just picked up this 25 ton Manley press off CL, seller says it has a blown seal, hope I didn't get hosed for $55. Seemed to work with no load on it, see what happens tomorrow.

Outlawmws · Jul 10, 2019

Seals are easy once you get the bottle apart...

Ben Buck · Jul 11, 2019

Found this oil can at a flea sale on Tybee.

Couldn't pass this up, 2001 Yamaha Vino, 900 some miles on it.

Been thru hurricane Irma and Matthew on the island. $50.00

I know it's not a tool, but had to show it. ( neither is the oil can )

Sprayed a good about of Kroil in the spark plug hole, hope all the bouncing it did from Tybee to the house worked in so the motor can be freed up.

Private Lugnutz · Jul 11, 2019

Ben Buck said:
Found this oil can at a flea sale on Tybee.

That's a nice one. You might want to also post it on 2oolhound's vintage oilers thread and check out some of the others while you're there. Link here.

Private Lugnutz · Jul 11, 2019

I picked up some Bog 1/2-inch drive tool orphans and a "Rambler" (guessing trunk kit) wrench that I have never seen before and know nothing about. It has the OEM (Gormully & Jeffery, also a Chicago mfgr) on the flip side. Neat design. Something to poke around and see what I can discover. EDIT: Quick-look here on GJ reveals it may be for a bicycle kit, instead. This is actually cooler, because I have a tiny "< G & J >" adjustable bike wrench, I didn't know what the logo was, now I do, and now I have two (2) pieces!

LesserSon · Jul 11, 2019

d42jeep said:
All of my McAleer boxes started out green. Not exactly Olive Drab but more of an Olive Gloss.

Thanks, Don: your comment made me curious, and saved what’s left of the original color!
I was wrong about black being its native color - black just adhered a whole lot better to the underlying green than to what must have been bare metal at the time of its last repaint.
A soak in diluted Simple Green and a scrub with a Scotch-Brite pad showed me the error of my ways.
Raining today, so no painting till next week. My plan is to remove as much black as I can, spray it with ODG or maybe Krylon Satin Italian Olive, let that sit for a while, then sand through the new paint till the original green starts to show, then clear coat or BLO. I think that will give it that “distressed” look.
BTW, these are the natural wear patterns of the tote tray, unless the PO who painted it black sanded it first. Most interesting to me is the remaining ring of green around the oil can hole, whereas almost the entire rest of the bottom was worn off.

Ben Buck · Jul 11, 2019

^^ Lugtz- thanks, I posted it over in 2oolhounds thread.

HeelSpur · Jul 11, 2019

Not sure if I've identified this correctly or not but I believe it's a, J.L Taylor pipe & nut wrench (Dec. 1, 1891).

DSCF2363 by wvwheaties, on Flickr

DSCF2364 by wvwheaties, on Flickr

LesserSon · Jul 11, 2019

Reading on militaria sites, you may wonder why no one can give you a simple answer to what “army green” really looks like, and then you take two pictures of the same paint, and realize, there’s no hope of matching it. My parents had a formica kitchen countertop something like the second shot, in the seventies. It was called “avocado,” and if you’ve ever seen an avocado, that color is neither inside nor outside the ones commonly found in supermarkets. (I’m not saying it’s an impossible color of some avocado, somewhere.)
And before anyone suggests “color match” services, that’s a crock; my daughter took a chip of her wall in, they scanned it, and...not even close. I suppose it satisfies colorblind individuals.

bmwrd0 · Jul 11, 2019

Heh. My mother in Law had once bought a house owned by an army colonel that had been painted olive drab. She hated it but loved the house.

And I have good luck with color matching, the trick is they need to adjust it for light patterns I have found.

LesserSon · Jul 11, 2019

bmwrd0 said:
I have good luck with color matching, the trick is they need to adjust it for light patterns I have found.

You’re probably right; the wall was warm cream, and they made it too gray. Perhaps I have a tendency to overgeneralize. And I was in a particularly condemning mood today.

McAleer box update: I allowed the rain and lightning to push me inside for a while, but summoned my resolve and attacked the black paint again. Leaving it in the elements definitely softened its grip - my new go-to trick!

There was considerably more green hiding beneath than I had imagined, but I think I will still go ahead with a repaint. Just a couple dimples to bang flat, and replace the two missing corner reinforcements. I wish I had a spot welder: in addition to the feet, there is a loose section of one top flap along the piano hinge. I figure I can JB Weld the corners, but not as sanguine about the hinge.

OK, that’s it - I won’t clutter up the GS thread with any more box refresh.

Arne73 · Jul 11, 2019

Saturday 13th 830am till? NO EARLY BIRDS
Closing up shop,one day sale Everything goes, hand tools,rakes,shovels,floor jacks,boxes and boxes of twine,step ladder, extension ladder,rolls of plastic, brand new burlap, 5 gallon carboys,5 gallon gas cans, garden hoses, bench grinder, too much to list, No housewares, no clothes, no toys, Like new dining room table, chairs and Hutch.NO EARLY BIRDS.
3727 w 192nd st Homewood IL 60430

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bmwrd0 · Jul 11, 2019

I hit two estate sales today, as both looked interesting which is unusual for a Thursday. First one was a digger type sale, all sorts of stuff, everywhere in the house. I was able to pick up the following:

True Temper cross pein, Commutator cutter - complete and in the box, Diamond shears, two MAC Sabina wrenches -1" and 1-1/16", and an unknown maker breaker bar. $10.
Next stop was a bit out of the way but showed a large shop with all the tools for sale. The had everything price marked in the photos, which is never a good sign but I figured what the heck. I wasn't wrong about the prices, but found a few things:

Two boxes of .32 Rem shells, Starrett 9" tri-square, Craftsman angled bit ratchet, countersink, Proto screwdriver and 13/16 socket, MAC 4oz BP and a Deco 9/32 socket driver. I also snagged an 18" Craftsman Heritage logo sticker but forgot to include it. All that for $15.
I then got a bug to go back to the first sale, and I am glad I did:

Hitch ball in box, MAC, P&C and Plomb sockets, OTC bearing puller, Proto extension, Millers Falls line level, Long C and geometric Craftsman screwdriver and DBE, General scratch awl, P&C DOE, Snap-on mini saw, MAC 1-1/8" wrench, spark plug gauge, power hacksaw blade-sadly too big for mine. All that for another $10.
Here is a better pic of the spark plug gauge:

JABgj · Jul 11, 2019

454ragtop said:
Just picked up this 25 ton Manley press off CL, seller says it has a blown seal, hope I didn't get hosed for $55. Seemed to work with no load on it, see what happens tomorrow.

Seems you did just fine for $55.00. Rebuild the jack and you have a forever tool.

Jumpman-Z · Jul 11, 2019

This year has been hectic for me, so I didn't get a chance to share my finds. Here's some my finds from earlier in the year:

February 17

A few decent pickups, I can't remember what I paid, but it was a good deal. I do remember, however, having to really work to get that vise off the wooden table it was bolted to.

February 24

With two drill presses already, I don't really need one. But this now-vintage Craftsman was brand new in the box, and only $50. I couldn't pass it up. Not sure what I'll do with it yet. I also bought some very old GI JOE accessories for cheap at the same sale.

March 29

At the beginning of the year, I picked up some books and other stuff at an estate sale. When I inquired about tools, I was told that there would be second sale which would include all of the tools and stuff in the garage. I signed up and didn't hear from them for a while. One day they finally contacted me, and asked if I would like to have a first look before the actual sale. I showed up, and got some Craftsman bodywork hammers, dollies, two wood planes, and all of the other stuff you see. If I remember correctly, I paid $36 for it all. I was pretty happy.

Private Lugnutz · Jul 11, 2019

I like that gapper, Beemer.

EDIT: Here is a link to a thread I just started for that antique Gormully & Jeffery bicycle toolkit wrench I just found.

txlonghorn1989 · Jul 11, 2019

Well, these belong here as I found them both on CL. The Columbian 504 on Tue and the Reed 103-1/2 today. The Reed has a cool double strike with the day & year on the 2nd patent date.

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