Lets make an all vintage Snap-on tool picture thread!

outofbounds · Dec 2, 2019

Looking for some expert analysis here. Seems this universal would be struck with a number 8 as reflected in catalog and collector lit. This is struck 9. Also has Snap-On on top half and what I believe to be a strike over logo on the bottom. Any comments how to best categorize this?

Private Lugnutz · Dec 2, 2019

Well, I'm no expert, but one read is that it was originally made in mid-20's, marked with the Strike Over "S/O" logo, with no date code, not sold, then marked again with the early "Snap/on" logo and date-coded with a "9" for 1929. But the pin looks marred, so another read is two halves of two different uni joints that were put together by a PO.

outofbounds · Dec 2, 2019

Thanks for that, Lugz, Given the state of the garage it came out of, I suppose anything is possible. I am sick for having "EvapoRusted" some heavily corroded, otherwise very old and collectible strike over, and early Blackhawk sockets to see some ridiculous scarring from some pliers or wrench "help". I guess such is the way of the world up here in the "Rust Belt". Maybe all the best tools are like cars, and come from California.

MShaw · Dec 2, 2019

"otherwise very old and collectible strike over, and early Blackhawk sockets to see some ridiculous scarring from some pliers or wrench "help"
When I was working in the garage a plumber came in. We were talking about socket wrench sets. He said he had a full set of snap on 1/2" drive sockets which he showed us.
The only flaw was that he did not have any drive tools and drove them with a pipe wrench. I have never seen a more chewed up set of sockets.

outofbounds · Dec 2, 2019

MShaw,
LOL. Must have been cousins with this guy!

d42jeep · Dec 2, 2019

outofbounds said:
Thanks for that, Lugz, Given the state of the garage it came out of, I suppose anything is possible. I am sick for having "EvapoRusted" some heavily corroded, otherwise very old and collectible strike over, and early Blackhawk sockets to see some ridiculous scarring from some pliers or wrench "help". I guess such is the way of the world up here in the "Rust Belt". Maybe all the best tools are like cars, and come from California.

California overstrikes.
-Don

outofbounds · Dec 2, 2019

"California overstrikes.
-Don"

Yeah but ours are bigger just like our women!

d42jeep · Dec 2, 2019

I think that I better leave that alone. I just bought this from a seller in Minnesota. Why is it that a person feels the need to use a spinner with pliers or Channellocks? I see it all the time. Very annoying.
-Don

Oldtuleguy · Dec 2, 2019

These go up to 1 1/2. There's a set of square ones and some oddballs too.

Private Lugnutz · Dec 2, 2019

d42jeep said:
California overstrikes.

outofbounds said:
Yeah but ours are bigger just like our women!

NJ is well-known for respecting strikes of all kinds, including overstrikes (see Pic 1). This early "Snap/on" logo socket (See Pics 2 & 3), made in 1929 and new old stock in 1931 and 1933 (See Pic 4), didn't fare so well however. Then again, it was the Great Depression, so the mechanics maybe only had one pipe wrench between them to turn it!

r_olson_06 · Dec 2, 2019

d42jeep said:
I think that I better leave that alone. I just bought this from a seller in Minnesota. Why is it that a person feels the need to use a spinner with pliers or Channellocks? I see it all the time. Very annoying.
-Don

I have seen countless spinners the same way. Why not grab a ratchet if you need that much torque?

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outofbounds · Dec 2, 2019

I'm glad that I inspired you all to pull out the "Ugly but Proud" lot......rode hard and put away wet tools need love too, right?

outofbounds · Dec 2, 2019

This one is a survivor. Strike over 36-F On its way to a good home tomorrow.

d42jeep · Dec 4, 2019

After minimizing the damage to the new spinner, I added it and a NOS crossbar to my original 1944 1/4” drive set getting it back to being complete. I’m now of the opinion that Snap-on never made a 1944 (E) date coded little breaker bar. Both of mine are date coded 1945 (G). If anybody has an E marked 1/4” breaker, I’d like to see it.
-Don

Oldtuleguy · Dec 4, 2019

Sorry Don, mine are all 41 or 42.

d42jeep · Dec 4, 2019

Thanks for posting your very early ones. There are 9/32” drive bars with the E date code but so far no 1/4” drive bars. I asked Snapmom and she said that she hadn’t seen one either.

-Don

Private Lugnutz · Dec 4, 2019

The entire 1/4-inch set in my Living History GMTK was Snappy "E" except for the hinge handle ("G") and the ratchet, which was a rare "3" (1943). Found together and intact with other wartime tools at my flea near Lakehurst Naval Air Engineering Station.

Private Lugnutz · Dec 4, 2019

Oldtuleguy said:
Sorry Don, mine are all 41 or 42.

??!! Are those TM-10's (1/4-inch drive)? Or M-10's (9/32-inch drive)?

Private Lugnutz · Dec 4, 2019

Pending a shocking answer from Otg that would completely obliterate it, my understanding is that Snap-on added the 1/4-inch ratchet in 1943, because it required no re-tooling (just a simple drive plug replacement), but didn't finish converting to 1/4-inch with the other tools until later in the war, introducing them in the 1945 catalog (published in Nov 1944) for the first time. The hinge handle was probably the last of the midget tools they converted, not ready for "E" sets in 1944.

Oldtuleguy · Dec 4, 2019

No just m10s! Just realized don is looking for 1/4 stuff. I have an E set but no breaker in it.

GalaxyRat · Dec 4, 2019

Anybody have any guesses as to why the Snap-On name was ground off on this socket? Could it be manufacturer or just an owner?

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PFSard · Dec 4, 2019

d42jeep said:
After minimizing the damage to the new spinner, ....

It's a shame to ruin the handles like that. I have a few tools with Channellock-or ViseGrip-type marks myself. How did you go about minimizing the damage?

snapmom · Dec 4, 2019

A GM70L factory 1/4 with a 1942 code.

does anyone have a E breaker 1/4

d42jeep · Dec 4, 2019

PFSard said:
It's a shame to ruin the handles like that. I have a few tools with Channellock-or ViseGrip-type marks myself. How did you go about minimizing the damage?

I used some Formula 409 and a stiff nylon brush to get as much grease and dirt out of the bottom of the grooves left by the pliers as I could. After drying I then put some brake cleaner on a paper towel and quickly wiped the surface where the damage was. I can’t stress enough how careful and quick I was with the wiping because the surface of the plastic will significantly melt if the brake cleaner is left on very long. The wiping finished removing most of the dark areas and made the remaining grooves less visible. I suggest experimenting on a plastic handle that is beyond repair before using the technique on a tool you plan to keep and use. It’s easy to increase the damage rather than reduce it if extreme care isn’t taken.
-Don

bmwrd0 · Dec 4, 2019

You can also polish those cracks out if you are willing to take the time. Lauver (occasional commenter) once had a good write up on this whole process.

outofbounds · Dec 5, 2019

I'm curious if a Snap-On ******** can finger a date for me on this half-moon wrench.....I've been combing catalogs and haven't located the "VQ" in this part number. I know that the CX2024, as an available size, came on board late 30s I believe, but hoping to nail down this one, and wondering what the VQ is supposed to stand for. Thanks in advance!

snapmom · Dec 5, 2019

vq that is a odd one, have not seen, most likely military "V" --- "Q" maybe quartermaster.

snapmom · Dec 5, 2019

A weird box, probably from about 27-28
I think it is a deep well box (sockets did not come with it). It is three inches tall, 16x8-1/2 the regular box is same except its 1-3/4 tall.
Also the holder height for the socket tray on the weird one is 2” tall as the reg. is 1”. the holder on the weird is on the back compared to reg. is front. the weird has a leather handle. not listed in any cat I have seen, but only two deep sockets are listed in the 27 cat. But the only socket that fits the 3” height and 2” holder is the deep sockets from like 27-28.
So, there maybe a complete set of deeps from that era. I do have a 1-1/16 deep with a 27 code, there maybe others.
I do doubt that I will ever finish this one. I had said to myself, no more sets, but I just could not pass this one up.

snapmom · Dec 5, 2019

A pic showing the two types.

outofbounds · Dec 5, 2019

That's a beautiful box, Snapmom. Nice find. I'm always out shaking trees looking for such peaches, but mostly getting hit in the head with the pits, after the possum got the fruit!

Private Lugnutz · Dec 5, 2019

snapmom said:
A weird box, probably from about 27-28...

Shhhhweeeeet!

Oldtuleguy · Dec 5, 2019

Very nice! If anyone can fill it its you.

outofbounds · Dec 5, 2019

Further study on the ravages of Midwestern rust that have taken such a vicious toll on my strike over socket hopes, I offer this 1920s 5/8" drive extension. Have to imagine it took two men and a big breaker bar to tweak this beast......Maybe chemicals and/or heat weren't at hand that day!

Oldtuleguy · Dec 5, 2019

Those old square extensions are commonly twisted. Probably the steel they were using.

outofbounds · Dec 5, 2019

Oldtuleguy,
So.......You're sayin there's a chance? (To sell this still?)

r_olson_06 · Dec 5, 2019

I second that. Most I find are snap on and Blackhawk and the majority of them are twisted.

Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrench 3061

outofbounds · Dec 5, 2019

A couple of speeders No. 4 (1/2") and No. F4 (3/8" Ferret)

Oldtuleguy · Dec 5, 2019

The twist just adds to the antiquity

outofbounds · Dec 5, 2019

Oldtuleguy,
Is there a way to figure out a part number for this 5/8" Drive x 8" long extension? All the old catalogs seem only to feature the square S-6 & S-12 extensions which are 1/2" drive.

Oldtuleguy · Dec 5, 2019

HD-6 is the 8 inch.

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