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IT’S TIME TO TIDY UP THE WIRING TO THE CRANE HOIST…

There are many ways to get power cleanly out to a trolley-mounted electric hoist. Festoon systems, cord reels, and cable carriers come to mind. Originally I had purchased some little festoon rollers to drape the cable along the I-beam, but decided against them. Instead, I will be using a section of flexible cable carrier to contain the hoist cable as well as the cord for the hoist-mounted halogen spotlight. I’m mainly choosing it because of its clean looks.

A cable carrier is basically a tube with links similar to a chain which can only bend in one direction. The one I have has hinging sides so you don’t have to feed the wire through. This will make it real easy to add more cables later if needed. A festoon system and cable carrier are shown in the next picture. The two extreme positions of the carrier version are shown to give you some idea how it travels.

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Here are some shots of the actual black carrier section lying in the approximate position on top of the I-beam. Cords will need to run from the wall (near the clock) out to the middle of the beam (above the “DAYTON” decal) where they will enter into the carrier. After running through the carrier, the cords will exit at the top hook and some brackets will connect from there to the hoist trolley. These ~20” brackets will be designed to match the angle of the crane tie rod (I’m kind of particular that way). Note that the carrier has a slight bow to it. It’s molded this way so the weight of the power cords inside straighten the carrier out when it‘s in the unsupported position (not resting on the I-beam).

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THE HOIST CABLE CARRIER MOVES TO THE PROTOTYPE STAGES…

I only had one night to work on the cable carrier for the hoist wiring, but I think I have a workable solution. The following pictures show the hoist in the extreme positions. The design will change a bit from what it shown, but I set this up to prove out the concept and get lengths/positions figured out.

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This view angle better shows the halogen spotlight that will be mounted up there to illuminate the crane work zone.

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This is just an example to show where the J-box will go to allow wire connections before entering the cable carrier. The actual box will look a little different.

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Now it’s time to make a few of the final parts, but that can be done at home.
 
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A FEW FINAL PICTURES OF THE OFFICE AND SINK AREA…

I finished up the remaining tasks up in the office so I snapped a few pictures to stitch together for these panoramic views. The images merged fairly well, but not perfectly. To finish it off, the drawing board finally got its new gray cover installed, the leg recess under the bay window got its trim, and some molding was added around the door. IT IS NOW READY TO USE!

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While I had the scaffold moved, I decided to snap a picture of the sink/jack nook wall now that it is finished.

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Lastly, I added a new collage in post number one for all newbees to see. Just to save you the trouble of going back there now...

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Looking good ShopNut, With all that storage, do you ever forget where you placed things?
Well Breeze, I'd be lying if I said never. But between good labels, quick access storage, and a decent memory (so far!), I can usually find things within a minute or two.

The big swing-up soffit cabinet doors (checkered flag doors) and see-through bins up there really help a lot with the searches. While standing on the ground, I can pull each cord and scan about 6 bins at a time in a matter of seconds.

What really throws me for a loop, though, is when I forget something has been moved to the city garage for a quick job there, but search the entire place inside and out three times before remembering. :sad: Maybe that memory IS starting to go! :dunno:
 

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LOL! Well you did such a great job on the index, I figured maybe you had some kind of computerized system where you punch in what you want and it tells you where it is LOL!
 
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Dang it Breeze! You just stole my thunder for next week's build update entitled "AUTOMATIC INVENTORY RETRIEVAL SYSTEM" :lol:

The sad thing is, I'm ALMOST crazy enough to create a log on the computer as you mention. Two things are stopping me at this point in time however - 1) keeping it updated - it would always be leading me to the wrong place because I don't have time to log the changes, and 2) the ASYLUM hasn't entered the computer age, as of yet.

Maybe someday when I hire my beautiful assistant and move an old PC out there, I'll make it happen! :rolleyes:
 

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I seem to remember seeing the handheld bar code scanners for loaning movies out to your friends. IIRC it came with software to create the barcodes and keep track of the stuff. Let's see .... aha... here's a link... http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/9197/

Darn it's been discontinued.... ..but I'm sure someone you can find one on eBay...
 

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Dang it Breeze! You just stole my thunder for next week's build update entitled "AUTOMATIC INVENTORY RETRIEVAL SYSTEM" :lol:

The sad thing is, I'm ALMOST crazy enough to create a log on the computer as you mention. Two things are stopping me at this point in time however - 1) keeping it updated - it would always be leading me to the wrong place because I don't have time to log the changes, and 2) the ASYLUM hasn't entered the computer age, as of yet.

Maybe someday when I hire my beautiful assistant and move an old PC out there, I'll make it happen! :rolleyes:

Maybe you could bar code everything and have it set to some sort of GPS tracking so it knows exactly where everything is at every moment! Kinda like big brother watching! :pimpflash

Of course I typed this out before reading mdbeck1's response! LOL! I guess we think alike!
 
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Just use RFID, and map the garage, it would be like gps for your parts. Walmart and all of the big retailers are trying to move to it, kinda neat as a readout on the shopping cart could give the shopper a running total of what is in the cart. Checkout would be seconds as you would not have to scan the items, just hand the customer some bags take the money.
 
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Barcoding, GPS, RFID - you guys should be ashamed about putting all these wild (but good) ideas in my head. I'll NEVER finish this place!

Now let's see - I should be able to squeeze this new project in around 2015, maybe sooner if a skip a few vacations along the way :)

I seem to remember seeing the handheld bar code scanners for loaning movies out to your friends. IIRC it came with software to create the barcodes and keep track of the stuff. Let's see .... aha... here's a link... http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/9197/

Darn it's been discontinued.... ..but I'm sure someone you can find one on eBay...

Maybe you could bar code everything and have it set to some sort of GPS tracking so it knows exactly where everything is at every moment! Kinda like big brother watching! :pimpflash

Of course I typed this out before reading mdbeck1's response! LOL! I guess we think alike!

Just use RFID, and map the garage, it would be like gps for your parts. Walmart and all of the big retailers are trying to move to it, kinda neat as a readout on the shopping cart could give the shopper a running total of what is in the cart. Checkout would be seconds as you would not have to scan the items, just hand the customer some bags take the money.
 
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You are doing a great job there.
I went with a homemade festoon on my crane and it has never got in the way and works perfectly. I also used a spring balancer for the control so I can pull the controller down when picking something up off the ground, then go back to it's normal position.
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Thanks Dave.

I really like the spring balancer idea on the controller. I happen to have a spare 5-10 lb adjustable tool balancer that might work perfectly, but I never thought to use it in this manner. My hoist came with an extra long pendant cable on it (actually reaches the floor) and I still haven't been able to bring myself to trim it off. With your suggestion, I don't have to. The balancer can take up the cable slack until I need it.

The pendant cable on my hoist has a steel cable running down through the middle of it and it's intended to be strong enough to pull the crane arm around and roll the trolley back and forth. I guess I will need to find that sweet spot with the balancer preload - still strong enough to allow moving the hoist around, yet light enough to overcome when I need to pull it straight down. Or maybe just set it light so it always pulls out a couple of feet. Any suggestion on what might be better?

It's worth a try - thanks again.

EDIT: BTW Dave - that's a nice crane setup you have there!
 
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Thanks for that
I find mine moves with little weight and pulling on the controller will move either the trolley or swivel it around. Some times I wish I had a brake on it as once it gets going it doesn't want to stop.
Once a load is on it, I pull it off the lifting cable to keep control of it.

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Wow, I just spend a couple hours reading the whole thread, and I am impressed. I love the sheet goods storage wall. The over all attention to detail is great.

There is a low tech solution to tracking tools you take home. Write it down on the white board? I had a white board in my garage, and used it for notes to myself a lot. At least until you get your RFID system set up.
 
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Thanks 3pedal. It looks like you may be new to the forum - there's a ton of ideas out there in those thousands of threads! Enjoy.

The older I get, the more notes I need to write to myself. That would be a perfect use for a corner of that white board - kind of a check-out log. I REALLY need to start doing that.
 
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I DON’T KNOW IF I HAVE IT IN ME…

I think I’ve been stalling a bit with the few odd jobs I’ve been knocking off the list lately, but a very big job is on the horizon. This job is installing the remaining clerestory windows and finishing off the main bay ceiling. I must say, I’m really dreading it. All work will be performed on the scaffold or out on the roof. I have strategically planned it for this time of year, not only because it is the cool time, but also the dry time.

The ONLY thing that will keep me going is fact that once the ceiling is finished, I will be rewarding myself with the first BendPak HD-9 lift :bounce:. The money for it has been sitting in an account for about 1.5 years now and it has taken EXTREME self control to resist buying it. Even though it has the ability to roll around easily on casters, I foresee it getting in the way when the ceiling is being worked on. I can’t just move it outside like the cars when it’s time to move the scaffold. I also considered buying it a while back and setting it up temporarily in the side bay to allow stacking the cars (actually not a bad idea to get both cars out of the way), but I think it will just be too much of a distraction and then the ceiling would never get done. Plus tearing it down and moving it later, although feasible, didn’t sound too appealing and getting the extra wide version makes it even tougher to squeeze it between the columns. A prior discussion about that can be found here: HD-9 Discussion

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The order for the last set of 4 windows has come in so now I have all eight to start replacing the remaining translucent panels. Another $560 sunk in this place :(. All the soffit material has been in my possession for a few years now since that 50% off sale. It is the vented style and I’m not sure it will look as good as the smooth stuff, so it’s likely the monster ceiling flag will go back up after its done. I think I would miss that old flag too much, anyway. It will be nice to use up some of those T8 light fixtures sitting on that cart too. As part of this project, the library ladder rail will be installed full perimeter (I bet you thought I gave up on that, didn’t you?). In preparation, I have also been stocking up on lumber for the new framing.

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Here is a panoramic view that shows where the work will be done. I really like the looks of the first finished section in the back corner, not only from the inside, but the outside too. Arrows are pointing to the rest of the translucent panels to be replaced with windows.

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Does anyone want to help? :eek: <pause> Anyone at all? <long quiet pause> I don’t blame ya. :(
 
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I'd help ya, but i'm <pause> too far away, <longer pause> um to busy doing my taxes... Yeah that''s it Taxes. LOL!

It's probably good you didn't buy the lift yet, Now you can use the interest you made on the bank account to pay for increased shipping surcharges for gas.

Seriously, good luck with your project! at least you have scaffolding... much easier than trying to do it on a ladder! ( library ladder that is)
 
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THE TOWEL DISPENSER GETS A MATCHING PAINT JOB…

Just a quick yellow paint job on the base box to make it look like it belongs. It’s still in a temporary spot until the main bench gets sorted. I actually found a deal on 2 dispenser years ago, but still haven’t figured out where the second one will be mounted yet - probably near the lathe someday (???).

I don’t use it to dry my hands off after washing because it seems too wasteful as often as I wash my hands, but mostly to wipe off greasy/oily parts or dry off freshly washed parts before painting. One thing I like about this particular dispenser is the paper advance bar is all the way across the bottom so it is easy to push. It seems you can always find a clean part of your hand (or elbow) to push the bar.

A dispenser that uses roll paper can advance the exact amount of paper you need before ripping it off. That tends to save paper. Speaking of paper, I remember the first time I bought paper for the dispensers. I paid something like $40 for a 6-roll box at the warehouse club and thought WOW, this is going to be expensive to keep filled compared to the kitchen paper towel rolls I was using prior to this. Four years after putting the first one up, I’m only on my 2nd roll - I guess it is pretty economical in the long run.

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SOME LIBRARY LADDER PARTS GET PAINTED…

I like to paint my parts well in advance so they have plenty of time to dry before handling them. Six new wall L-brackets got painted and they will be needed soon as I frame up for the windows. I ran out of white paint so a few of the rail attaching parts are still only primed.

I’m finding the office upstairs makes a good drying room. I paint everything outside and allow it to initially dry for an hour or two before putting them upstairs since most of the fumes have dissipated by then.

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THAT FELLED TREE GETS CLEANED UP A BIT…

I decided to get a little bit of outdoor exercise by starting the cleanup process of the downed tree.

The once majestic tree has been reduced to:

A stump with some flags to warn me so I don’t back into it with the truck…
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New extension on the wood pile…
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A row of limbs waiting to be mulched with the chipper/shredder…
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And one massive pile of Spanish moss…
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DIVING INTO THE WINDOW INSTALLATION…

The first thing that needed to happen was the ceiling flag had to come down. I took and couple of pictures before doing so.

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I decided to work on the wall and ceiling adjacent to the already finished area so I could continue on with the library ladder rail. Two of the flag sections were detached from the ceiling and allowed to drape down. They actually can stay there for a while since they are about 6.5 feet off the ground and I can walk under it just fine.

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A little bit of demolition was done and new framing installed.

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AND A LITTLE MORE WORK ON THE CRANE CABLES…

It may not look very much further along, but I stuck several more hours into this project making the brackets that attach the electrical box to the top of the crane rail and also hold the bottom end of the carrier chain. A cross bracket was also made for the top of the chain. With things now bolted together in a somewhat permanent fashion, I was able to swing the crane around and check clearances. In the side view, it’s apparent the carrier loop is going to interfere with anything plugged into the lower receptacles of the quad outlet, but that’s alright since I really only need two.

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I want this crane to park tight against the wall when not in use and basically it can do so, but one change is needed.

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This vantage point shows where the problem is. The corner of the aluminum frame is just barely hitting the white vinyl, so there will be a slight change of plans on the top carrier bracket in the near future. Also seen here is the J-box. A rigid conduit will run from this box, along the top of the beam parallel to the carrier chain, and over to the crane pivot bolt. Also worth noting is that I should be able to reach out the office window (when the scaffold is gone) to access the electrical connections, similar to clock adjustments.

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Awesome as always. Btw, it can't STILL be your 40th birthday can it? Heck, maybe I'll try that when I hit 40 too... just stay on that number permanently ;)
Well, it IS the gift that keeps on giving! :)

Trust me, there's no one more ready for a new title than me. I just recently discovered that a thread title can be changed in post#1 so you will be seeing a new one soon (when I figure out what to change it to :headscrat).

Thanks for reminding me rieferman. And thanks for "stopping by".
 

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The ASYLUM: Keeping age and sanity away.
The ASYLUM: Age means more expensive toys.
The ASYLUM: Where else can you escape the crazies?

Come on folks, I **** with words, we need some good options!:beer:
 
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Thanks for the title suggestions xcgates. All of them are fitting.

I ran my top three past Mrs. Shopnut the other day and she suggested one of her own:

The ASYLUM - Lakeside Shop Refuge, I am insane to think I will finish this before I retire.

Sad thing is - her's is probably the closest to the truth :(
 

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Secretly you know you don't want to finish it, because then you would have that much less to do! Of course you have at least one motorcycle, right? That means you will always either be able to ride, or have a project to work on it so you can ride.:beer:

I have a friend who decided to build a kit Cobra car when he retired. His wife assumed it would never be finished, but he did finish it, and now goes looking for random projects, and gets himself into trouble.:)
 
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MORE FRAMING FOR CLERESTORY WINDOWS AND LIGHTS…

I continued on with the framing of the 2nd 12’ wall section. Once the windows were done, I added the framing in the ceiling for the recessed fluorescent lights.

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EXTENSION OF THE LIBRARY LADDER RAIL…

An additional 22’ of rail was added. That required another 5 wall L-brackets and 2 more vertical hangers at the main rafters. Once everything was leveled out I removed the rail and C-shaped hangers since they will just be in the way when I install the windows. In the pictures, you will notice one of the new rail sections was not yet painted, so having it back down will also give me a chance to give it a coat of yellow paint when time permits.

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AND SOME PREP WORK FOR THE CEILING INSULATION AND VINYL…

I added most of the 2x3” cross braces between the roof purlins to hang the 12’ 2x4’s from. Unfortunately, I ran out of lumber so only 2 of the 6 were installed. But luckily, the hard work is finished and the rest of the 2x4’s will only take about ten minutes each to install.

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AND NEXT ON THE LIST…

The next couple of work sessions will probably entail the actual window and exterior siding installation if the weather cooperates and I don’t forget any crucial supplies.

In the meantime, I need to start planning out how to support the ladder rail across the front of the building. I've been itching to build another storage loft up there for many years now - there’s so much space going to waste up there!
 
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As always you continue to inspire.

Thanks

X2... Thanks for sharing it with us dreamers

You are welcome guys. Thanks for speaking up - I need a little encouragement right now.

This window/ladder project keeps expanding because I tend to be an opportunistic type person. After looking at it again, I figured out a better way to route my final loop of air piping. Of course, this will be much easier to do now before some of these walls/ceiling get finished off.

Add another task to the list before the vinyl goes up. The light at the end of the tunnel appears to be getting dimmer!
 
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SOMEONE MUST BE WATCHING OVER ME…

I dodged two different bullets this past week.

First, a large dead tree fell very close to the ASYLUM. Not even a scratch on the building. :eek: I had actually noticed this tree a while back and was keeping an eye on it. I deemed it low risk since it had a pretty good lean in a direction slightly away from the shop. It came down sooner than I expected because of rotten roots. I’m just glad I don’t have to worry about it anymore.

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The other bullet was shot by my own gun. I planned on doing some major yard work but I guess the old John Deere 110 wanted the day off. After buying and installing a new battery, followed by several hours of troubleshooting and fixing a fuel delivery problem, I final was ready to throw the gas tank back on and fire it up. As I’m lifting the half-full metal gas tank back into position, something on the underside sparked with the chassis. And I’m talking welding arc - straight battery current. :shocking: As the title suggests, I was counting my lucky stars because after the fireworks had stopped, I noticed fuel dribbling off the bottom of the tank. Sure enough, it had blown about 6 pinholes in the tank but somehow it didn’t ignite. I’m still not sure what it touched since the electrical parts are about 2” below the tank mount surface. :headscrat I realize now that it’s always a good idea to pull the battery cables off when dealing with anything on this old mower.

I was still determined to mow the lawn and I was reasonably sure I fixed the fuel problem (bad check valve in fuel pump) so I stole a small plastic fuel tank off an old push mower and I was back in business. Of course, I had to stop every half hour or so to gas up, but at least I got it done before nightfall. In fact, the mower hasn't ran that good in a long time.

I DID GET A COUPLE THINGS DONE INSIDE THE SHOP…

I had the truck out there so it was time to restock the supplies. This included air line, aluminum clad wire for some electrical circuits, bags of insulation, vinyl J-channel, and of course more lumber. Rather than stacking ALL the new lumber up in the storage loft, I decided to install the remaining ceiling 2x4’s to avoid having to handle them twice.

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Of course, that didn’t even go without incident. I was just about finished and was standing up to drive the last two screws and I kicked my tape measure off the scaffold. It dropped 16’ onto the concrete, bounced and rolled out across the front apron and into the grass. I was amazed that it didn’t suffer any damage. I guess those old metal-cased craftsman tapes are pretty tough after all.

I was so frustrated with this whole visit that I just gave up and headed home. Besides, I have another patio extension project at home that needed attention before some guests arrive in a few weeks.
 
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As I've grown older I follow a three-strike rule when working on projects. Third thing to go bad ends the work. If the thing going bad involves bandages (to keep blood off the work) or flames, I quit after two. In my youth nothing stopped me and a number of the fourth bad things involved emergency rooms or next-day doctor visits (traumatic bursitis doesn't incapacitate you right away).
 
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As I've grown older I follow a three-strike rule when working on projects. Third thing to go bad ends the work. If the thing going bad involves bandages (to keep blood off the work) or flames, I quit after two. In my youth nothing stopped me and a number of the fourth bad things involved emergency rooms or next-day doctor visits (traumatic bursitis doesn't incapacitate you right away).
I like that three-strike rule, Bob. I probably need to adopt it to keep me from paying the doctor a visit! After the many years I've been working on this place, there's nothing here that can't wait a week or two while I take a deep breath.
 
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INTRODUCTION OF THE FRONT STORAGE LOFT…

This front loft will nearly double my bulk storage area so I’m anxious to get it started. Here are a few shots of the wasted space in the front overhang.

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The first thing that needs to happen is the front exterior wall will be need to be extended down a bit more. No problem, I have quite a bit of matching tan ribbed siding in storage. This image shows the 2’ extension:

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Next, a platform will be built over the top of the garage door openings and extend 8’ over to that newly lowered exterior wall. It will cantilever about 3’ inside the building above the garage door drums (shown as the large green circle). This will allow the library ladder rail to be positioned clear of the door drums so the ladder doesn’t hit them as it rolls around. Some recessed lights will also be built in this overhang to illuminate the front of the main bay. Here are a couple of cross-sections showing the new platform location.

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Here’s a view from inside showing where I will need to cut out openings in the existing wall to gain access to the new loft.

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Lastly since the storage platform height is about 15’ above the floor, I’m planning for a light capacity hoist system at the ceiling peak (indicated on drawings above). It will come in real handy to get stuff up there considering the loft is only accessible via the library ladder. Unistrut (Superstrut) trolleys/hangers are ordered and the matching channel can be found at the home improvement stores in the electrical aisle. I might build this first to make it easier to get the plywood decking and other materials up there during construction. Here is an image of the Unistrut system.

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That's in the 2020 expansion plan, Breeze :)

But until then, I will have to make the most of the space I currently have under roof and try to pack it in. It forces me to think in 3-D to utilize the height of the ASYLUM.

Does anyone remember my Triple Stacker car lift idea? Thread Link (No, it's not something a burger joint sells - they DO exist)
I was hoping they would be in the $10-15K range, but the best price I received was around $20K - ouch :sad:
The idea is not completely tossed out, however, and it's been filed away for when I'm REALLY REALLY (add 8 more REALLY's) desperate for car storage space.
 
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INTRODUCTION OF THE FRONT STORAGE LOFT…

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Lastly since the storage platform height is about 15’ above the floor, I’m planning for a light capacity hoist system at the ceiling peak (indicated on drawings above). It will come in real handy to get stuff up there considering the loft is only accessible via the library ladder. Unistrut (Superstrut) trolleys/hangers are ordered and the matching channel can be found at the home improvement stores in the electrical aisle. I might build this first to make it easier to get the plywood decking and other materials up there during construction. Here is an image of the Unistrut system.

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I set up something like this in my woodworking barn to access the storage loft. It's about 12-14' up attached to the peak. I used a barn door track with a barn door trolley. I put an Shackel in mine and use a block and tackle for the heavy stuff. It allows me to lift the heavy stuff by myself and then roll it back away from the opening. I thought about putting an electric hoist in but decided that I don't really want to take stuff up and down that much.
 
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Okay, with all your crazy ideas, you guys are invited to become members of the ASYLUM Board of Directors. Hours are long and compensation is lousy, but I know you will give 110% just because you love this garage stuff so much. ;)

Of course, all expansion projects still have to get approved by the Chairman (me) and the Treasurer (Mrs. Shopnut). :lol:
 
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I set up something like this in my woodworking barn to access the storage loft. It's about 12-14' up attached to the peak. I used a barn door track with a barn door trolley. I put an Shackel in mine and use a block and tackle for the heavy stuff. It allows me to lift the heavy stuff by myself and then roll it back away from the opening. I thought about putting an electric hoist in but decided that I don't really want to take stuff up and down that much.
mdbeck1 (or anyone else with a setup like this),

How far does your track extend into storage loft. My overhead track is only going to overlap the storage loft floor by about 30" due to a 6x6 post blocking it from extending any further in a horizontal direction. Do you think that's enough? I foresee something such as a car body panel still hanging over the ledge a bit while I try to lower it and pull it in.

My other choice would be to locate the track completely inside the storage loft and build a trap door so things could be lifted straight up through the floor from the outside concrete pad in front of the roll-up doors. This might be a little safer, but I foresee more work building a door and it would certainly take away from usable storage space. Any thoughts?

BTW, I have that spare manual chain hoist I can use. Even though it is a bit slow to lift/lower, I thought it would be fine for the limited use it will see. Your comment about the electric hoist confirms my hunch.
 
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