The VISES of Garage Journal

joe.striper · Jun 12, 2015

Crazy day today. Picked up this Reed 106 and this early Wilton 825 (2.5" jaw). Both for $220.

Then got a call from vermont buddy who has a 165# Hay Budden anvil and a 6" Wilton bullet ($600).

Last call came from a NH picker who bought 2 Reed 206Rs and offered them to me at $200 each. Waiting on better pics.

Its quiet for weeks then WHAM! NUTS I TELL YOU!!

jakemac · Jun 12, 2015

Here's my little offering for today.

I picked this up at an estate sale this morning. I know that I've seen something like this in this thread somewhere, but I can't find it and don't know the brand.

It's an early bolt thru the bench type of swiveler.
3" jaws
7-8 lbs
broken off horn in back
triangular slide
cast-in main nut
all mounting parts included

jakemac · Jun 12, 2015

At another sale this morning, I lucked into something vise related that I'd never seen before. I had originally found 6 of them buried in the back of a cabinet under some trash, but when I went to check out of the sale they said that they wouldn't sell them because "they go to the vise that is already sold". First, the the cabinet wasn't anywhere near where the vise was. Second, the vise sold for $20 because it was a small 3" craftsman import. Third, the flipper who bought the vise would only have thrown them out because he wouldn't know what the were.

I finally convinced them that the vise only needed 1 pair, and that they could sell me the other 2 pairs for $8 (they originally wanted $12 for all 3 pairs until they changed their minds about selling them).

Grip-All vise jaw adaptors. :bounce:

These sit on top of the vises jaws (like the copper covers) but the round bit allows the adapter to swivel. This lets you hold odd shaped pieces in your vise. I've never used them, so I can't say how well they work. :dunno:

CwazyWabbit · Jun 12, 2015

I reckon you only really need 1 per vice, not a pair. I bet by the time you had a pair at maximum angle whatever you were trying to hold would pop out.

drivesitfar · Jun 12, 2015

Jake: i can't remember who makes (made) those triangle slide vises, but it looks European. any markings on it? nice find.

also those jaw covers are a good find. since they were nowhere near a vise would you have known that they were jaw covers if they didn't have those awesome graphics on them?

bluebolt · Jun 12, 2015

joe.striper said:
Crazy day today. Picked up this Reed 106 and this early Wilton 825 (2.5" jaw). Both for $220.

Then got a call from vermont buddy who has a 165# Hay Budden anvil and a 6" Wilton bullet ($600).

Last call came from a NH picker who bought 2 Reed 206Rs and offered them to me at $200 each. Waiting on better pics.

Its quiet for weeks then WHAM! NUTS I TELL YOU!!

What's the date on the Wilton's slide?

jakemac · Jun 12, 2015

Wabbit - I think that most of the time you would be correct. But I can see where at times the pair would be needed, if only because of the "V" notches.

Drives - No marks on the vise. And no, I didn't recognize the jaw covers at first. It was the graphic that clicked on the lightbulb in my head and made me dig for the others.

joe.striper · Jun 12, 2015

bluebolt said:
What's the date on the Wilton's slide?

I'll try and check it when I pick it up. Its stamped Chicago so its pretty early.

va.grouseman · Jun 12, 2015

Previously posted by Drivesitfar.

VA: stirring the pot again i see and looks like an interesting vise. that one looks like it should join the chain gang or do you already own one or two of them?
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Don't have one of those Drive, and at those prices, I never will.---I almost got to have it but not quite.---I get the HEBEJEBES when I venture up into that got to have it range.---I'll just have to settle for a good show.

Jake, the Grand Vise Master has a triangular slide similar to yours, but is configured differently than yours on the whole.

I like those jaws.---Instant swivel jaw.---Makes a nice upgrade.

jakemac · Jun 12, 2015

Thanks VA. I seem to remember at least one or two other triangle slides being posted. I think there was one just a month or two ago. But, of course, in this thread that could be a thousand posts to search in that time. :lol:

KMScott · Jun 12, 2015

Hey guy's, does anyone have a Parker # 439 with the two 7/16 handles. I want to make a couple original handles that are missing on this Parker # 439. I just want to see what they looked like and get a length. I am thinking they are 4-1/2 inch long and have the flat screw head un-screwing ends like my picture shows. The one that sold on e-bay a week ago did not have handles either.Thanks.

Junebuggy · Jun 12, 2015

BBSkylark said:
Just got this guy

I have one of those too...it's my main vise and I really like it!

Lu-Max · Jun 12, 2015

trijeff said:
1740

Before

After

It's like deja vu all over again

Dude, please buy a gigantic Bridgeport with a complete tooling package (else an extremely expensive CNC mill) and repost those images once you've squared up those corners. Sheeesh! Friggin' amateurs! :dunno:

bagged89s10 · Jun 12, 2015

Junebuggy said:
I have one of those too...it's my main vise and I really like it!

Nice stand Jb. So what are the measurments on a Parker 106-5?

jakemac · Jun 12, 2015

KMScott said:
Hey guy's, does anyone have a Parker # 439 with the two 7/16 handles. I want to make a couple original handles that are missing on this Parker # 439. I just want to see what they looked like and get a length. I am thinking they are 4-1/2 inch long and have the flat screw head un-screwing ends like my picture shows. The one that sold on e-bay a week ago did not have handles either.Thanks.

Kevin, PM joe.striper. I think he has one, but I don't know how complete it is.

KMScott · Jun 12, 2015

jakemac said:
Kevin, PM joe.striper. I think he has one, but I don't know how complete it is.

Thanks Jake. I will get a hold of him.

joe.striper · Jun 12, 2015

KMScott said:
Hey guy's, does anyone have a Parker # 439 with the two 7/16 handles. I want to make a couple original handles that are missing on this Parker # 439. I just want to see what they looked like and get a length. I am thinking they are 4-1/2 inch long and have the flat screw head un-screwing ends like my picture shows. The one that sold on e-bay a week ago did not have handles either.Thanks.

Kevin, on my 439 I rebuilt both my handles and modeled them after the abused originals. They were round with flat tops and fit into the depression on the head of the clamp. I'll look for pics.

drivesitfar · Jun 12, 2015

Joe: i'm not sure if you put the size or the original swivel handles in the post you put on this thread, but i know you put up a post on the 101 thread too so i'll check and see if i can find the post # and edit it onto this post.

Kevin: cool looking vise and is it yours? Get also has a 439 and a couple other members do too so we should be able to find you some originals. i thought one of them had the Parker wrench on theirs. i do like that style vise and might be the only Parker i'd buy. not that they are not great vises, but i just haven't got the access to very many and they are usually beat to **** the ones i do so until i get some of your skills i'll leave them for the rest of you. maybe VA with his magic touch at finding the 439 can find all the members that have posted them.

t4runner · Jun 12, 2015

Anyone know anything about what I have here? There's no name on it, I really have no idea of what I have with this one.

Outlawmws · Jun 12, 2015

It's a Vanvil! :evil:

Generally turn of the century stuff, up to about late 20's 03r 30's. That one is probably before the turn... Nice find if the price was right.

drivesitfar · Jun 12, 2015

T4: I've seen a ton of those broken so don't use it like an actual anvil. yours is one of the coolest looking ones I've seen though and looks like it's all there including a spring I've only seen on a Cole anvil vise. looks like late 1800's with that Patent date on the side. nice find and even if you don't use it i'm betting it would look awesome cleaned up and put on a shelf.

Joe: i only found your Parker 26x swivel pins so hopefully you can find your information or another member with a Parker 439 with original pins can help Kevin. BTW you are allowed to post anvil pictures if you buy them with your vises. did you buy or trade for a few this week or are they all this weekend?

ShadowRuleZ · Jun 12, 2015

Outlawmws said:
Those are highly dangerous to use, and should be disposed of to a facility equipped to deal with them! PM me for a shipping address for such a facility!

I'm afraid of dropping it on my toes!

tedsters said:
seeing how your in detroit and just got it. is this the one you grabbed

Yep, that's it.

drivesitfar said:
Shadow: the 20 is a part # because I'm about 99% sure the Prentiss #20 are swivel jaw and 4 inch wide. nice find and i'm sure you know you found a keeper or at the worst good trading material.

Thanks, first rear swivel jaw I've gotten. Pin is stuck, I'm sure I'll figure it out though.

va.grouseman · Jun 13, 2015

KMS,---Markeric has a 439 posted on page 1077, post 21537.---Has some info about the swivel tighteners also.---And Joe.stripers is posted on page 1323, post 26445.

Oh I found one of those Wilder All Shape Vises likes on E-bay.---Posted by Ticki2 on page 1282, post 25627.--- The one on E-bay is up to $404.00.---As Ed Sullivan would say, it's going to be a really big shoe, or shew, or shooo or shuuu.

oldldh · Jun 13, 2015

Shadow---Dynamite or small piece of C-4... :evil:

Matthew3901 · Jun 13, 2015

So I have this small vice with out a base. It came to me on a steal plate and a cut off bolt holding it all together. what are the odds of finding a base for it?

KMScott · Jun 13, 2015

va.grouseman said:
KMS,---Markeric has a 439 posted on page 1077, post 21537.---Has some info about the swivel tighteners also.---And Joe.stripers is posted on page 1323, post 26445.

Va you nailed it, Thanks. It looks like the top clamp is peened on at 4-1/4 long and the bottom handle should have the screwed in caps like a few I have made before, curious to see what Joe's pictures look like, Joe's post did not show handles. The swivel base I believe has the slotted end caps.Gotta plan now. Again thanks VA.

Drives, not my vise, helping on the owners restoration, he did a fine job just needs a couple handles.

zoomieport · Jun 13, 2015

va.grouseman said:
Zoomie has a whole slew of them.---Maybe he will repost.---They are nice little vises.

I don't really have any information on them, but here are some pictures...

Take care! :thumbup:

ZOOM

va.grouseman · Jun 13, 2015

Thanks Zoom.---I wanted to see them again to.---Eye candy.

oldldh · Jun 13, 2015

Speaking of itty-bitty clampers...

There is a "Prentiss Vise Co Jewelers Bench Vise" over on Ebay...

Opening bid of $ 9.99...

Shipping charge of $ 12.20...

2" Jaws on this beastie... :thumbup:

Behold...

drivesitfar · Jun 13, 2015

Zoomie: nice family shot of your small vises and anvils. just curious if you might know what the little aluminum anvils were made for. do you know?

Oldie and Va: give us a report on what the little 9.99 Prentiss ends up selling for if you have time to watch. i'm betting more than a Benjamin or maybe 2 or more? how much is that per pound for a 10 pound vise for all those that still try to buy old vises by the pound?

CudaChick1968 · Jun 13, 2015

drivesitfar said:
Vintage: I have heard that about 200-250 is where the guys are putting their vises in their shop or even their house ovens to bake on the paint nicely. since you have options to go quite a bit higher you might want to check with some of the local paint and powder coating shops or PM a few members here in that business. CudaChick has a great shop in Tennessee for powder coating and she might help you.

good luck

Thanks for the mention drivesitfar! I love your confidence.

Shiftless · Jun 13, 2015

drivesitfar said:
Zoomie: nice family shot of your small vises and anvils. just curious if you might know what the little aluminum anvils were made for. do you know?

Oldie and Va: give us a report on what the little 9.99 Prentiss ends up selling for if you have time to watch. i'm betting more than a Benjamin or maybe 2 or more? how much is that per pound for a 10 pound vise for all those that still try to buy old vises by the pound?

Oldie, VA, and Drives: Right now I am high bidder so if I win the auction

I'll let all of you know. Ha Ha

va.grouseman · Jun 13, 2015

Ahh Shiftless.---You shouldn't have told that.---Now I might have to endure that awful vertigo up there in the GOT TO HAVE IT ZONE.

tedsters · Jun 13, 2015

ShadowRuleZ said:
I'm afraid of dropping it on my toes!

Yep, that's it.

Thanks, first rear swivel jaw I've gotten. Pin is stuck, I'm sure I'll figure it out though.

I was on the way to get that vise i asked the guy to remove it from C/L i seen he took it off from it, had the addy in my GPS and figured i better call well on the way and he told me he sold it he didn;t even have the decency to call and tell me he sold it, i should of paid him thru paypal this is the 3rd time this has happened to me on C/L its to bad everyone can't keep there word especially when you got 3 or 4 text and 2 ph conversations with the guy and think its in the bag, well you got a nice vise especially for what you paid for it :thumbup:

i am glad someone on here got it

zoomieport · Jun 13, 2015

oldldh said:
Speaking of itty-bitty clampers...

There is a "Prentiss Vise Co Jewelers Bench Vise" over on Ebay...

Opening bid of $ 9.99...

Shipping charge of $ 12.20...

2" Jaws on this beastie...

Behold...

I'm not saying it's "wrong" or "broken", but I have one that style and there are 3 mounting tabs... That one doesn't "appear" broken, if it is, they made it very smooth, but mine has a 3rd mounting tab in the back, under the slide... Interesting... :headscrat

Take care! :thumbup:

ZOOM

zoomieport · Jun 13, 2015

drivesitfar said:
Zoomie: nice family shot of your small vises and anvils. just curious if you might know what the little aluminum anvils were made for. do you know?

Oldie and Va: give us a report on what the little 9.99 Prentiss ends up selling for if you have time to watch. i'm betting more than a Benjamin or maybe 2 or more? how much is that per pound for a 10 pound vise for all those that still try to buy old vises by the pound?

They are actually "cast bronze", one is a "Fisher Norris", from the Fisher Norris museum and the other is from "The Blacksmith Barn", that goes by the name "Matchless Antiques" on eBay, the owner is a friend of mine.

By the way, those little Prentiss's (Prenti? LOL!) are more like 2lbs, nowhere near 10lbs, and I think the last one sold in the $450 range, if I remember correctly...

Take care! :thumbup:

ZOOM

tedsters · Jun 13, 2015

KMScott said:
Hey guy's, does anyone have a Parker # 439 with the two 7/16 handles. I want to make a couple original handles that are missing on this Parker # 439. I just want to see what they looked like and get a length. I am thinking they are 4-1/2 inch long and have the flat screw head un-screwing ends like my picture shows. The one that sold on e-bay a week ago did not have handles either.Thanks.

Kevin

heres the handle from my 449 its 6-5/8 from tip to tip should be the same as the 439 I actually need one nut and handle for mine, mine has a square nut on the swivel base

balane · Jun 13, 2015

Both of the fixed base 2" Prentiss vises I had also had a third mounting hole on the rear, under the slide. That is interesting.

Blue Frog · Jun 13, 2015

drivesitfar said:
Zoomie: nice family shot of your small vises and anvils. just curious if you might know what the little aluminum anvils were made for. do you know?

Oldie and Va: give us a report on what the little 9.99 Prentiss ends up selling for if you have time to watch. i'm betting more than a Benjamin or maybe 2 or more? how much is that per pound for a 10 pound vise for all those that still try to buy old vises by the pound?

Drives,

One of the same size and style sold a number of months ago for about $175.00. I was watching it because I have one of the same style.

Blue

oldldh · Jun 13, 2015

Just a thought on the "missing" rear mounting tab/hole...

If it was broken off, they did a helluva job smoothing out the break...

The "place" where it "should" be, is really factory smooth...

Maybe these 2"'ers were only two hole mounters, or after, the original mini-clampers were found to need three mounts for stability, the third tab/hole was added in a later version...HMMM???

As others have said---"Very Mysterioso"... :headscrat

(Shiftless---You've been outbid...I wonder who???...HMMM...)

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