New House, New Shop

MrQuinn · Dec 17, 2014

We moved over the border from Spokane to a newer home in Coeur d'Alene Idaho last Fall. It has a 2 car attached garage but no shop to work on the bikes and store their trailers and all the collective accessories. So I spent the summer putting in the slab and racing to finish the 20x30x11 building before Winter sets in. I am closed up but needing to get the heat & electrical in yet. I have the power run underground and the panel in so we have some power inside. Running PVC and #12 solid singles for the circuits. I had no shade in the back yard to wash & wax the machines so we put a 16' in front of the shop.

I left the boards out of the fence on purpose so my neighbor can come over and visit. He rides too so we are good neighbors and plan to put in a gate for him to use.

Starting over...

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Sunbimmer · Dec 17, 2014

Very nice build, I like the carport in the front :thumbup:

Delfonik · Dec 17, 2014

Looks good.

Catadj78 · Dec 17, 2014

Looking good. How much did that building set you back?

drivesitfar · Dec 17, 2014

MrQ: i love a stick built garage especially when the sticks are steel. only thing i can see so far that i might be concerned about or change is the ground level on the side or maybe sides is right at the level of your pad. can you drop the dirt level a few inches so you don't have to worry about the steel plate getting rusty? or is there no possibility that water will ever crawl into your garage and on you cement?

nice looking with the covered carport area in front too. again welcome to our forum and happy to have you.

MrQuinn · Feb 7, 2015

Catadj78 said:
Looking good. How much did that building set you back?

The concrete work and permits were 10.5k and the building was another 10k delivered and setup! They took a day and a half to put up the building after 2 weeks of waiting for the concrete to cure.

MrQuinn · Feb 7, 2015

drivesitfar said:
MrQ: i love a stick built garage especially when the sticks are steel. only thing i can see so far that i might be concerned about or change is the ground level on the side or maybe sides is right at the level of your pad. can you drop the dirt level a few inches so you don't have to worry about the steel plate getting rusty? or is there no possibility that water will ever crawl into your garage and on you cement?

nice looking with the covered carport area in front too. again welcome to our forum and happy to have you.

Thank you for your comments. The building actually sits on the edge of the concrete and the steel siding extends down 4 inches past the slab. I plan to pull the dirt back and replace it with gravel eventually so that the roof run off doesn't splash dirt all over the sides... maybe gutters with a dry well at the corner too.

MrQuinn · Feb 7, 2015

Doing the inside work now... I ran 12awg solid in PVC conduit for all wall circuits on 20amp breakers - each quad box has 2 separate circuits, top and bottom. All circuits are in PVC conduit for the lights as well. I wired the florescent lights separately with each side on it's own switch and the center tube on both together. So I can run just the center tubes on both for minimal lighting or just the outer tubes on either side. All lights makes it daylight at midnight in there! Now to get the gas to the shop for the overhead radiant heat... and paint this spring!

xtremek · Feb 8, 2015

I'm not usually one for new builds, I really like the looks of your shop. I agree with Sunbimmer in that the carport really adds to the look. I also like the big window on the side. I'm looking forward to seeing how you finish the inside.

1/2 Cup · Feb 8, 2015

Your build is looking fantastic, I like the all steel aspect.

Its very much like typical shed out here, we don't normally see timber frame sheds any more.

Keep up the good work.

Regards

MrQuinn · Feb 8, 2015

xtremek said:
I'm not usually one for new builds, I really like the looks of your shop. I agree with Sunbimmer in that the carport really adds to the look. I also like the big window on the side. I'm looking forward to seeing how you finish the inside.

Thanks for the reply and looking at the new project. I read your thread with delight and believe we have a lot in common in regards to thrifty and re-purposing materials. I really had no choice but to go new after the move. We were paying $170. a month to store what was in the old shop in a 17' POD's container and I hated to waste those resources so time was not on my side with winter coming fast. After almost a year we had a shell of a shop to work with.

At the old place I had a hot tub cover made from a Costco carport then turned it into a greenhouse made with windows from a hospital that replaced their windows with new ones. The old shop had a picture window in the side from the front of the house after we put a bay window in...

MrQuinn · Feb 8, 2015

The old house had weeping willows in the front that were infested with bugs that ate it from the inside and only the swarms of bees liked them so they had to go. I pulled them down one weekend and started on the roof extensions and steel roof.

MrQuinn · Feb 8, 2015

I borrowed the idea from the old 20x30x10 shop for the carport since it had an overhang but almost useless for anything when it came to staying dry and in the shade. So when we had the chance to start from scratch, we went with the long 16' carport.

drivesitfar · Feb 8, 2015

MrQ: your garage with the carport looks great and happy to hear you already have plans for the ground around the perimeter. you might want to draw up or use a computer program to organize your garage because it will fill up fast. i like commercial racks with a lot of metal and plastic organizers. i'll post up a few pictures as i can if you can use some.

nice job and thanks for sharing.

MrQuinn · Feb 9, 2015

drivesitfar said:
MrQ: your garage with the carport looks great and happy to hear you already have plans for the ground around the perimeter. you might want to draw up or use a computer program to organize your garage because it will fill up fast. i like commercial racks with a lot of metal and plastic organizers. i'll post up a few pictures as i can if you can use some.

nice job and thanks for sharing.

Thanks for the suggestion, I have a "use" plan but the lil woman has more uses than I do for it.... actually I have to finish moving all the stuff in the corner to the garage and garden shed then get the concrete cut to pit set the bike lift and that will make a lot of room too. The industrial shelving was purchased (used $200.) as 4 separate sections with 3 shelves each 2 for the shop and 2 for the garage... I just need time to organize more of it. Got to go to the habitat for humanity store for some organizers.

drivesitfar · Feb 9, 2015

McQ: in case Habitat is out of organizers Costco has the black storage bins with yellow lids that hold a ton for about $9 each.

good luck with the organizing. my wife says i'm swearing at her when i use that word because I've been doing it for almost 30 years since we moved in.

MrQuinn · Feb 9, 2015

Delfonik said:
Looks good.

Thank you and appreciate you looking too.

MrQuinn · May 15, 2015

Added some shade

I have been laid up for the past few months and doing therapy on a torn up shoulder. Haven't done much around the shop as you could guess. But, I did manage to put up some heavy duty tarps for shade across the front. It allows airflow and blocks the afternoon sun nicely. I found these at Harbor Freight to put over the truck bed when heading to the dump and decided to get a few 12x10's for the shop. I had 2 steel antenna masts and mounting hardware laying around that worked out great for the job. A piece of chain for center support and we're in business.

MrQuinn · May 15, 2015

The Bike Lift Pit Set started today!

After a few months of bad weather and shoulder therapy I finally pulled the trigger on the Bike Lift pit set job. The cutters showed up and were gone in a few hours. This is going to be not too hard on the shoulder... famous last words. It looks like I have a personal Stonehenge going but I'll post a few pics as I progress...

Finally managed to get a few friends together the other day. We poured it and I tore out the forms today! Glad that messy part is done. Dust everywhere...

Finally got the pit painted and the lift in the hole. Today was a good day!

MrQuinn · Jul 26, 2015

I had this AC unit that was needing a window to sit in... it sits right over the work bench too! When I got it installed the lil woman said the spacer panel needs to match the window so I taped off the grid and sprayed grey paint over it to make it simulate the window.

xtremek · Jul 26, 2015

Excuse me sir, but you ****!! So, how did the shoulder fair? Did you get the bike lift in? Do you have trouble with mosquitoes? Would mosquito netting work as shade?

MrQuinn · Aug 26, 2015

@xtremek...Yes, I ****. So... I guess I have been a bit slow in my updates... sorry. I had the MRI done and finally found a good sports doctor to evaluate my shoulder. He said he wouldn't do surgery on it since the rotator cuff isn't torn 50% only a bit frayed. All he wants me to do is exercise therapy.

The shop faces west and takes the afternoon sun full on which makes the shop unbearable to work in the evenings. so I used the sun screen to keep the temperature down, I know it seems a bit over the top but I thought artificial shade was a good thing.

I finished the bike lift last week after I used tan concrete floor paint in it. I didn't want to seal the concrete just keep liquids from staining the concrete. I have one of the bikes up on the lift and love the height for the ease of accessing everything.

Now to I plan to primer and paint the shop walls before the weather turns cold...

xtremek · Aug 27, 2015

I just noticed the spacer grid, very nice detail.

sublime68charger · Aug 27, 2015

Nice looking place!

When I'm on better computer im gonna check out all them pics you got!

Great work

MrQuinn · Aug 29, 2015

xtremek said:
I just noticed the spacer grid, very nice detail.

Thanks for noticing...

The "Boss" said it should look like the window. So I got some blue tape and grey paint, measured it off over the tan and sprayed it. Made some major points for that since she only asked for it a few days before...

MrQuinn · Aug 29, 2015

sublime68charger said:
Nice looking place!

When I'm on better computer im gonna check out all them pics you got!

Great work

Thank you SubLime... I appreciate your looking and the comments too. I figure we can learn from each other so look all you like and don't hesitate to drop a note anytime.

MrQuinn · Sep 5, 2015

Sure it will look better when it's done... then I can finally clean up the bench. The lil woman said I should paint the bench to match the cabinets while I'm at it. She doesn't like the blue rails. So I added that to the ToDo list, thanks dear!

Anyway, since I used OSB for the paneling I had to do the Kills primer to seal the board. Sure does soak up a lot of primer but at least it has a good base now... I had designed the electrical to be flexible so I can modify it as needed. So dropping the whole wall's conduit to the ground to paint is working out nicely.

We managed to get the top & bottom colors on the wall today. Waiting for the paint to dry before we tape it off for the electrical & air band on the middle of the wall... Also, removed the AC unit from the window for the winter too.

Finished the north wall with the maroon accent band for the air lines and power.

xtremek · Sep 5, 2015

I agree with SWMBO on the blue. Is there any way to cover the seams in the OSB? I like it how it is, just might look better if you could cover the seams.

MrQuinn · Sep 6, 2015

xtremek said:
I agree with SWMBO on the blue. Is there any way to cover the seams in the OSB? I like it how it is, just might look better if you could cover the seams.

We think alike. I had the same idea. I plan on caulking the joints before I paint it... I don't like the gaps either... Picked up the paint today, It's gonna look awesome!

Taking the bench apart and getting it powder coated is another project...

MrQuinn · Sep 12, 2015

The 3 main walls are done! I got the air line and the electrical back on the bench wall today. The tall cabinet back in the corner. Now I start running the electical on the other wall while I have everything stacked in the middle of the shop.

xtremek · Sep 13, 2015

A wise man once told me, "in order to fix something, you have to make a mess first". True, but I still hate this part of the process.

MrQuinn · Sep 13, 2015

xtremek said:
A wise man once told me, "in order to fix something, you have to make a mess first". True, but I still hate this part of the process.

Thank you xtremek. So true... on both points. I hit the cold of winter just after we put up the building last fall. I was happy to just get the insulation and OSB up. No steady heat source to speak of (only a propane blaster) to paint so it was put off until we had the temps and time... as the year went by and my shoulder healed I had to do it now! The OSB was so dark and dingy, almost depressing to look at. i'll be busy for the next few weeks just getting back to where I was... but we must endeavor to persevere!

MrQuinn · Sep 16, 2015

I'm almost finished with the south wall electrical and air lines. I also managed to finish the trim on the wall, 11 mil vinyl tape, Diamond Plate!

MPOWERD · Sep 17, 2015

MrQuinn said:
I had this AC unit that was needing a window to sit in... it sits right over the work bench too! When I got it installed the lil woman said the spacer panel needs to match the window so I taped off the grid and sprayed grey paint over it to make it simulate the window.

I really like this building... You are doing a great job. I would love to have shop space like this but I have to wait on that... About the window mounted AC... Couldn't you have simply cut a new opening for the AC to fit into in the siding and kept the window intact?

MrQuinn · Sep 17, 2015

MPOWERD said:
I really like this building... You are doing a great job. I would love to have shop space like this but I have to wait on that... About the window mounted AC... Couldn't you have simply cut a new opening for the AC to fit into in the siding and kept the window intact?

Thanks for dropping by MPOWERD, I appreciate the comments. It has been a job, that's for sure. After a year it is almost done. Still a lot to do though. I need to run gas to the building for the radiant heat but winter is coming fast.

We debated putting the AC unit in a wall but couldn't decide on a practical place. The steel frame building doesn't lend itself to just cutting in an opening without supporting it somehow. For the few months it is is in use I really don't mind it in the window.The window was planned and framed in as the building went up.

xtremek · Sep 17, 2015

So, staying on the AC topic, how well does work work on your shop? The shop really is starting to come together.

dcmus · Sep 17, 2015

MrQuinn said:
I'm almost finished with the south wall electrical and air lines. I also managed to finish the trim on the wall, 11 mil vinyl tape, Diamond Plate!

Ilikethecolor scheme. Mine isverysimilar.

MrQuinn · Sep 17, 2015

xtremek said:
So, staying on the AC topic, how well does work work on your shop? The shop really is starting to come together.

Thank you xtremek, it seems that it has been a long time coming together. The building has been up 1 year next month, 10/1. How time does fly...

The AC did very well to keep the shop comfortable with the help of a box fan blowing on low from the back corner of the shop along the window wall. Circulating the cool air is the trick. I used my tall roller tool box to direct the fan across the AC unit & bench. I have 2 industrial ceiling fans (still in the box) that need to be put up above the radiant heater that will work great for the circulation. Of course having a large shade tree between the shop and the mid day sun helps too...

MrQuinn · Sep 17, 2015

dcmus said:
Ilikethecolor scheme. Mine isverysimilar.

Hello dcmus, thanks for stopping by and looking at my shop project. I had a hard time deciding on the colors to use so it would be bright and clean looking. Being a grey building outside I wanted to keep it in the grey but not as dark. So we went lighter 2 shades of grey with the maroon accent.

We found the vinyl diamond plate tape to tie into the Gladiator wall & roller cabinets. That was just a dumb luck find by my better half. She was a lot of help in the whole process of painting the shop. I owe her big time for giving me so much of her vacation time to paint the shop.

MrQuinn · Sep 17, 2015

Finally, all done with the paint for now on 3 walls. Just putting things back together again.

I have to replace the roll up door with a real garage door then finish the west wall around the doors.

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