stahlwille rollmaster

7echo · Oct 13, 2009

Been visiting here often, nice community you all have. This is my first post and I hope someone can help.

I am interested in getting one of these...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/stahlwille-ro...in_3?hash=item27ac43286c&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

If you don't want to click or copy/paste you can see it by going to ebay.uk and searching stahlwille rollmaster.

Hazet made, or makes, something similar, but I want the Stahlwille if I can find and afford one.

Thanks, 7

Charles (in GA) · Oct 13, 2009

A childs metal wagon with some rubbermaid stackable containers would work as well, and that thing isn't worth any £750 thats for sure.

Charles

Merkava_4 · Oct 13, 2009

Charles (in GA) said:
A childs metal wagon with some rubbermaid stackable containers would work as well

That's what it looked like when I clicked on the link!!

Monte · Oct 14, 2009

I only saw this box once, the drawers open/slide to the side. If you have not too many tools this box should work. But i would pay max. 150 or 200 for it.

fatfillup · Oct 14, 2009

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16982&highlight=hazet+assistant

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38712&highlight=hazet+assistant

Two recent threads that had some interest. Actually pretty cool deal. I probably wouldn't spend alot on one but I've never seen one either.

Good luck on your search!

7echo · Oct 14, 2009

I updated my info to add my location. Sorry about that, especially considering I usually gripe about people not putting in a location.

The Hazet is OK, but the Stahlwille is way nicer. More heavy duty, better built.

I have other boxes, just always liked this one and am thinking someone on this board can point me towards a good condition cart at a good price.

Thanks for the comments!

Charles (in GA) · Oct 14, 2009

I know you just want this for looks, have to have reasons, but if you need a roll around work cart with some storage capability, the tool companies make those things, and I've several on Craigs List recently for fair prices.

This one has been up for a while now, looks real nice, and I think is priced reasonable for what it is.

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/sat/tls/1421372402.html

Charles

Or this, a little different.

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/tls/1418311921.html

abstamaria · Sep 2, 2010

I posted a picture of my Stahwille Rollmaster in the "Let's See Your Toolbox" thread (see post no. 3654). Monte posted very interesting pictures there too. This link might get you there:

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058431&posted=1#post1058431

Did you find one, 7echo?

7echo · Sep 12, 2010

Haven't found one yet. I haven't had time to do much searching due to a big project at work. That just finished up though so I will be on the hunt again.

Thanks for posting.

abstamaria · Nov 15, 2010

I received several posts and PMs asking for detail photos of the Stahlwille Rollmaster, but was only able to take pictures today (courtesy of a sprained ankle that has kept me home). I had posted pictures in my garage thread and also in the "show your toolbox" thread, but think it will be best to consolidate these here. I hope you will find this interesting.

When I bought my Rollmaster in the late 70s, it looked like the unit in this photo, taken from the Internet.

My Rollmaster had these colors originally, down to the red "Rollmaster" script.

abstamaria · Nov 15, 2010

Re: stahlwille rollmaster (as it is now)

I used the Rollmaster as my main tool cabinet for many years. It took almost all the tools I needed to undertake a frame-off restoration on a 1969 Lotus Elan. In the the mid-1980s, I had it repainted by a friend with a paint shop in (for reasons that escape me now) "Ferrari" colors. The Rollmaster remains that way today.

I installed the "Ferrari" chassis plate because I had no other place to put it. This was probably not a good idea, as the Stahlwille is German.

The top drawer swings open all the way to rear, which is handy. I modified the latching system to allow the center tray to swing open as well (it was originally fixed, as shown in the earlier photo of an unrestored Rollmaster).

All three trays can swing out at the same time and remain stable.

abstamaria · Nov 15, 2010

Re: stahlwille rollmaster (as it is today)

The "dot" rubber lining in my Rollmaster was installed by me and is not original. When I bought my Rollmaster, it was new, very old stock and did not come with the original rubber mat on the top tray. The inside trays I believe never had any lining.

The bottom of the Rollmaster is simply an empty bin, quite useful actually.

The latch system will accommodate a padlock. The original, wooden knobs give it a nice vintage "old-world" feel.

Scratches, nicks, etc., are obvious in these pictures, but then this is a working cabinet, repainted some 25 years ago.

These days I keep my tools in upright too; cabinets. The Rollmaster remains useful though as a temporary place to keep tools and parts during a job, because it can move right up to a car and keeps these things organized. I plan to install a rubber bumper strip on the front and adapt a lfront-wheel lock, which was missing when I bought this unit.

I understand from a GJ member that Stahlwille discontinued these wonderful roll cabs in the early 1980s. There seems to be a following in Germany, of course, and a Google search will lead to pictures and discussions there.

Charles Darwin, having stayed several months on a desolate island studying penguins, said at the end, "now I know more about penguins than I care to." Now you can say the same thing about Stahlwille Rollmasters.

Regards to all,

Andres

abstamaria · Nov 15, 2010

I neglected to attach a photo of the latching system. Here it is. Andres

Monte · Nov 15, 2010

Thanks for the pics !!!!!!! Very nice !!!!!!!! (and seldom, mostly you see Hazet Assistents)

superautobacs · Nov 15, 2010

Very cool! Thanks for sharing those detailed photos. :thumbup:

Mike B26 · Nov 15, 2010

Thanks, Andres!

Now, if I could only find a deal on one that doesn't cost an arm and a leg to ship to the US...

abstamaria · Nov 16, 2010

You're all welcome. I am glad you found the photos interesting.

There were Rollmasters being sold on Ebay not expensively, so you might get lucky, Mike.

George, I hope these photos are what you need.

I have also attached a photo of a side of the bottom bin, would you know what the two holes per were for originally? Also, if your front wheel has a locking mechanism, could you post a photo? Many thanks,

Andres

abstamaria · Nov 16, 2010

Thanks, George. So that is what the brake looks like. I can see also that the lower holes on the side of my Rollmaster are not original (I might even have been the one who put them in, thinking back now). Your Rollmaster looks pretty original. Post pictures on this thread as you restore it. Good luck, Andres

abstamaria · Nov 17, 2010

Mine is probably early 1970s as well, Joki, perhaps even late 1960s. I wonder when Stahlwille started producing the Rollmaster.

4x4gearhead · Nov 17, 2010

I dont think I see why these are so sought after...

4x4gearhead · Nov 18, 2010

I think its kind of funny looking again the liners in the trays on that are the same material used as flooring for many machines my company has produced

4x4gearhead · Nov 18, 2010

Thats BR 2000 flooring lol.

Monte · Nov 20, 2010

I emailed Stahlwille and asked from when to when they build the Rollmaster. The answer was they built it until 1990

johnnybentwrench · Nov 20, 2010

Those carts look great! looks like they work well too. I want one or a Hazet. hard to find! I want an old one, not newer.

abstamaria · Nov 21, 2010

4x4gearhead said:
I think its kind of funny looking again the liners in the trays on that are the same material used as flooring for many machines my company has produced

Not Stahlwille's fault. Mine entirely. They're quite hardy, though, and don't shift around like the thin liners Proto and Snap-On use.

I like the Rollmaster because of notalgia, too, and the fact that, as a work cart to take tools and parts next to a car, it works very well. Except for the Hazet Assistant, nothing like it, in fact.

flathead74 · Nov 21, 2010

I think they are really cool. They should have included one in Pixar's CARS movie.

jeepxj · Jan 15, 2011

Because I just found this thread: that thing rocks. I'd pay decent money to find one.

mofo62 · Feb 20, 2011

Re: stahlwille rollmaster (as it is today)

abstamaria said:
The "dot" rubber lining in my Rollmaster was installed by me and is not original. When I bought my Rollmaster, it was new, very old stock and did not come with the original rubber mat on the top tray. The inside trays I believe never had any lining.

The bottom of the Rollmaster is simply an empty bin, quite useful actually.

The latch system will accommodate a padlock. The original, wooden knobs give it a nice vintage "old-world" feel.

Scratches, nicks, etc., are obvious in these pictures, but then this is a working cabinet, repainted some 25 years ago.

These days I keep my tools in upright too; cabinets. The Rollmaster remains useful though as a temporary place to keep tools and parts during a job, because it can move right up to a car and keeps these things organized. I plan to install a rubber bumper strip on the front and adapt a lfront-wheel lock, which was missing when I bought this unit.

I understand from a GJ member that Stahlwille discontinued these wonderful roll cabs in the early 1980s. There seems to be a following in Germany, of course, and a Google search will lead to pictures and discussions there.

Charles Darwin, having stayed several months on a desolate island studying penguins, said at the end, "now I know more about penguins than I care to." Now you can say the same thing about Stahlwille Rollmasters.

Regards to all,

Andres

OMG!!!

That Stahlwille so so so... beautiful .I Love Stahlwille :bowdown:

I Love this Rollsmaster and congratulations :beer:

V!

johnnybentwrench · Feb 21, 2011

I found a Hazet assistent, but would prefer a Stahlwille. I prefer Stahlwille to hazet. Lighter in weight and more for the $$$$

billymade · Feb 21, 2011

Sell the Hazet on ebay for a ton of dough and then find a Stahlwille!

http://www.stahlwille-online.de/ind...d&lid=2&mid=2&shid=&scmd=plist&pcid=18&cid=37

I think Gedore; makes some cool ones too! Some look like the older Stahlwille's!
http://www.gedore.de/en/products/group_overview.html?pm_id=102339&oe_opt[list_set]=28362,118928,102339

johnnybentwrench · Feb 21, 2011

I would want a vintage one. The Hazet is fine

abstamaria · Mar 1, 2011

billymade said:
I think Gedore; makes some cool ones too! Some look like the older Stahlwille's!
http://www.gedore.de/en/products/group_overview.html?pm_id=102339&oe_opt[list_set]=28362,118928,102339

I have never seen those Gedore boxes. I like the "Tool trolley VARIO with lowering mechanism." Thanks, Billy. Andres

expatriated · Mar 1, 2011

Well, I was set on an Assistent until I saw this thread

Very nice, guys!

Johnny Bench, what year is that BMW in that Hazet shot?

johnnybentwrench · Mar 1, 2011

expatriated said:
Well, I was set on an Assistent until I saw this thread

Very nice, guys!

Johnny Bench, what year is that BMW in that Hazet shot?

1977 R100s, 1978 R100S, 1967 R69S & Zundapp 200S :thumbup:

cosmik binturong · Mar 23, 2011

there's a cheap one in Holland right now; pick-up only.

a nice project that could easily(or not so easily, depends
on the skills of the restorer as usual

) turn out to be as
nice as abstamaria's one.

Monte · Mar 26, 2011

nice job !!!!

billymade · Mar 26, 2011

I don't know what it is.... but there is something cool about german vintage things...

cosmik binturong · Mar 26, 2011

that's one pretty Rollmaster... :thumbup:

i neeeeeeeeeeeeed one*!!! :willy_nil

* or two

jvitez · Mar 26, 2011

Gruezi GeorgeK. Very nice work. The light blue is certainly an iconic color, but I prefer the green you used. Was this ever a Stahlwille colour, or just something you preferred? I would love to have a Stahlwille or Hazet rolling tool box, but they are rare as hens teeth here.

bart1 · Mar 26, 2011

Great job, George! Keep up the good work!

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